Why does the Netherlands flag use Pan-Slavic colors? Anyone know? I'm genuinely curious
>be Russian/Slavic
>get DUTCH'D
>non-countries trying to imitate Russia
>ruskies stealing the French colors
>"""Slavic""" colors
embarrassing to be honest familia
>>57671713
Seriously, do you know why? I always wondered about this
>>57671776
>being this triggered about soviets raping your "country"
>The Pan-Slavic colors, red, blue and white, were defined by the Prague Slavic Congress, 1848 based on the flag of Russia, which was introduced in the late 17th century. The tricolor flag of Russia was, itself, inspired by the Dutch flag
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Slavic_colors
Your flag is literally a copy of a copy of a copy.
>>57671776
>voting online
BRAVO
>>57671650
There was this Dutch guy who introduced these flags to the slavin countries. So the Pan Slavic countries use Dutch colors. Yay Netherlands!
>>57671863
>a copy of a copy of a copy
So you're saying your flag itself is a copy?
>>57671930
The Croatian flag is a copy of the Pan-Slavic flag which is a copy of the Russian flag which is a copy of the Dutch flag.
>>57671863
>implying the pan-Slavic colours didn't come from the colours of the Duchy of Carniola
>>57671975
>the Pan-Slavic flag
I'm responding to bait aren't I
>>57671650
just a bunch of cucks trying to copy us to be honest
>>57672040
ЭTO
T
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Czar Peter the Great was a Dutchaboo. The Netherlands was very rich at that time. He changed the flag of Russia.
Other Slavic countries looked to Russia and saw how stronk it was, and the Pan-Slavic colors were born.
>>57672132
>tfw besides the great depression perhaps the Netherlands has never been as poor as now
pls send halp
>>57672132
>t. netherkek
>>57672207
>Croatia calling the Netherlands a kek
Are you certain you want to go there?
>>57672207
>being cucked by a cuck
ayyy
>>57672246
Netherlands is a kek, and always has been. The only reason people like you in this day and age is because 'muh legalized weed xDDD'
>>57672277
>Netherlands is a kek, and always has been
>>57671650
why couldnt all those flags be original like Ukraine, Poland, Bulgaria and Belarus instead of just copying Russian flag
>>57671650
Why does the France use Pan-Slavic colors? And why doesn't Poland, Ukraine and Belarus?
>>57672307
>forgetting the frankish empire
>forgetting the Dutch king on the English thrown
>>57672315
Oпepeдил.
>>57672355
throne
>>57672315
>>57672327
Those countries have original flags because they want(ed) to distance themselves from russians/soviets, you know
>>57672422
Salian franks were Dutch.
>>57672447
And the Merovingians.
>>57672447
True.
>>57672040
What are you implying?
>>57672447
they can't be something that didn't exist.
It's easy to spot people with inferiority complex, they look for any form of glory before their country and thus people ever existed
>>57672600
>they can't be something that didn't exist.
>>57672369
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>>57672398
what are you even talking about, CCCP didn't existed when those coutnries had their flags
>>57672600
>>57672600
>Be French
>Don't speak Frankish
>Claim to be Franks anyways.
>>57672600
French people are the ultimate cucks. Basing their country and name after a bunch of Dutch people. Trying to keep the remains of the former Dutch kingdom in one piece at all costs.
ayyyyy
>>57672644
>he wrote out CCCP using latin letters
I also mentioned russia, which existed, please reread my post
>three stripes
disgusting
>>57672632
>>57672668
>>57672673
>>57672718
>kekland thinks somebody invited him
>Netherlands
>gave the UK it's glorious revolution and then it's golden age
>shaped France and Germany
>ensured the American revolution
>inspired the French revolution
>waterloo'd napoleon
>freed Japan from Christians
>gave the world New York
>conquered lands like Indonesia infintely times their size
>defeated German, French and English armies at the same time
Is there anything we can't do?
>>57672784
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Slavs, is in fact, Wends and Slavs, or as I've recently taken to calling it, masterrace and slavshits. Slavs are not an ethnic group unto itself, but merely a linguistic group made useful by based Wends, a vital group thanks to which Europe exists.
Many /int/ users mistake Wends for Slavs every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the Wendish group is often called "Slavs", and many of /int/olerants are not aware that it is basically the Wends, a Central European masterrace.
There really are Slavs, but Wends are no part of it. Wends are different, much more civilized and stuff. This is essential for you to realize. Slavs often include Wends, but basically it's Slavs with Wends added. All the so called "Western Slavs" are really Wends.
>>57672803
Besides protecting a Muslim enclave.
>>57672803
being objective and accept you are a young country and a young people. this is one thing you can't do.
>>57672864
>you are a young country and a young people
We have been here since before 1 AD. French people, on the other hand, are just Roman rapebabies.
>>57672277
you do realise that being the second-most succesful Former Yugoslav Republic doesn't mean shit when you are still below pretty much every other European country?
>>57672918
>>57672600
ahahah so easy to argue with retards.
I like Australia, do you like Australia?
>>57672864
>The area that is now the Netherlands was inhabited by early humans at least 37,000 years ago, as attested by flint tools discovered in Woerden in 2010
We were having flint tools when you were still busy eating snails!
>>57672944
WUZ
>>57672918
>>you are a young country and a young people
>We have been here since before 1 AD. French people, on the other hand, are just Roman rapebabies.
Is there education in the netherlands?
>>57672940
Who is the first one? Slovenia...? Please say yes
>>57671650
Because the Netherlands is rightful Russian clay :^)
>>57672940
croatians are turkish rapebabies, they will always have the feeling of not being central-european enough
t. slovenian, we know how they are
>>57673000
>Is there education in the netherlands?
Yes. Of course there is.
>Croatian education.
>>57673000
yes, Slovenia
>>57673028
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Russian_invasion_of_Holland
Nice try.
did someone say DUAL NUMBER
>>57673064
One day, one day
>>57673059
>>57671983
No one cares about your made up countries
>>57671650
Fun fact Netherlands sometimes being mistaken as for Russia.
>>57673116
>amerilard visits the thread in his mobility scooter
Nobody invited you, leave
>>57673168
Why didn't you copy the Italian flag? You are a left behind part of Italy after all.
>>57672990
MY GROTTO WAS BETTER THAN YOURS
I remember Turks protesting in front of the Dutch embassy in Istanbul after Russia went to war in Syria.
>>57673223
So it's a no on the netherlands education, then?
>>57673241
It wasn't, it was literally a swamp ;_;
>>57673261
>Croats don't know about Dalmatia
Jesus Christ, Croatians truly have terrible literacy rates.
I think the UK is a good country. What do you think?
>>57673242
lol
www.hurriyetdailynews.com/confused-turkish-nationalists-protest-russian-air-strikes-in-front-of-dutch-consulate.aspx?PageID=238&NID=91492&NewsCatID=341
>>57673331
The UK needs another Glorious Revolution tbqh
>>57673327
You mean dalmatia that belonged to croatia, but was sold to italy by a traitor croat royalty, retaken by croatia but then gifted to italy by fascists in WWII, and reclaimed by yugoslavia and tito? Please explain how it is a leftover of italy.
The ananas Netherlands flag is confusing me.
Is Paraguay Slavic?
>>57673116
>made up countries
>US&A flag
>>57673404
Wasn't Croatia fully conquered by Rome?
>>57673521
This has got to be bait, but I'll reply...
Croatia did not exist at the time of the Roman Empire. The territory of present day Croatia was owned by Romans, yes, but Croats settled on the land in the 7th century.
>>57673115
GDP per capita: Slovenia 39th, Croatia 58th , HDI: Slovenia 25th Croatia 47th, inequality-adjusted HDI: Slovenia 10th Croatia 39th.
>>57673598
>it took him 13 minutes to find outdated GDP data
I hope those 13 minutes of your life were worth it, fake sweden.
>>57673052
Take črne děvčiny
is costa rica honorary slav?
>>57673477
I think yes. Probably is more slavic than poland
>>57673640
Razmisli malo što pišeš
>>57673768
Ne razumijem memu
>>57673477
Paraguaian here. I fit right in.
>>57672132
Cool story.
>>57673640
It's all correct though, except that Croatia is 34th on inequality-adjusted HDI
>>57673897
Our flag is older than that.
>>57673897
>A different account traces the origins of the Russian flag to tsar Peter the Great's visits to Arkhangelsk in 1693 and 1694. Peter was keenly interested in shipbuilding in the European style, different from the barges ordinarily used in Russia at the time. In 1693, Peter had ordered a Dutch-built frigate from Amsterdam. In 1694 when it arrived, the Dutch red-white-and-blue banner flew from its stern.[6] Peter decided to model Russia's naval flag after this banner by changing the sequence of colors.
>The Dutch flag book of 1695 by Carel Allard, printed only a year after Peter's trip to Western Europe, describes the tricolour with a double-headed eagle bearing a shield on its breast, and wearing a golden crown over both of its heads.
>>57674068
>Two accounts of the flag's origin connect it to the tricolour used by the Dutch Republic (the flag of the Netherlands); however, the truth of neither having been established, both accounts remain speculative only.
>remain speculative only
The definition of "cool story".
>>57674068
Inb4 years don't line up
>The earliest mention of the flag occurs during the reign of Alexis I, in 1668, and is related to the construction of the first Russian naval ship, the frigate Oryol. According to one source, the ship's Dutch lead engineer Butler faced the need for the flag, and issued a request to the Boyar Duma, to "...ask His Royal Majesty as to which (as is the custom among other nations) flag shall be raised on the ship." The official response merely indicated that, as such issue is as yet unprecedented, even though the land forces do use (apparently different) flags, the tsar ordered that his (Butler's) opinion be sought about the matter, asking specifically as to the custom existing in his country.
>>57674120
(You)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Embassy_of_Peter_the_Great
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czar_Peter_House_(Netherlands)
>>57673897
The Dutch Statenflag became an official flag in 1572 during the Dutch revolt, but it was used long before that.
>>57674198
>1697–1698
>Flag_of_the_Tsar_of_Moscow_1668.jpg
Are you so upset?
>>57673404
>dalmatia that belonged to croatia
>croat royalty
>retaken by croatia
who started using red blue and white in their flags in the first place?
TIL: Australia's flag is the oldest and best in the world.
>>57674303
We did. Well actually, we used Orange instead of Red first, but it changed over time.
>>57673897
>>57674261
That's false, that flag is from 1693 according to the source.
http://www.rossimvolika.ru/gos-simv/gos-flag/istoriya/kr-ocherk/
>>57674303
Russia
>>57674342
Both flags were flown at the same time, but one was specifically made to show allegiance to the house of orange.
And despite that we have the oldest tricolor still in use, it might not necessarily be the older tricolor ever used.
>>57674445
>older
oldest
>>57674342
>The orange dye was particularly unstable and tended to turn red after a while, so in the mid-17th century, red was made the official color.
Couldn't afford proper paint.
>>57674303
>who started using red blue and white in their flags in the first place?
Cheapest colors to produce back then.
>>57672307
In what alternate reality did the Netherlands ever rule over Svalbard?
>>57674299
I have to correct his statement
Dalmatia belonged to Croatia. The very first seat of Croatian power. First Croatian cities, the very first capital. Our powerbase before the Turks came
Croatian royalty? No. It was sold by the Frenchified Hungarian royalty that wanted to fund its wars of succession, and Venice simply offered (because they couldn't conquer it. They were beaten back from our shores multiple times, so they used this good moment of Angevin weakness to purchase Dalmatia for a good sum). Hungarians sold it because the cities were rebellious anyway, and they viewed it more as a cost, despite the region's advantageous position in trade
Not retaken by Croatia, but by Croatian troops under the Habsburg Monarchy
>>57674513
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noordsche_Compagnie
This reality. Spitsbergen and Jan Mayen were part of the Chartered Noordsche Compagnie. Why else do you think it's called Spitsbergen? That's a Dutch name. So is Jan Mayen.
>>57674499
>jew tripfag
literally kekking out loud
>>57674445
There are reports of people buying red white and blue colors for the weapon of Holland in 1365. A weapon also pressed on coins in 1330.
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statenvlag
>>57674583
>Having a whaling camp now equals sovereignity.
Okay lad.
>>57674583
Smeerenburg, the biggest Dutch settlement on Spitsbergen.
>>57674651
Well, yes.
Otherwise, places like Indonesia and Suriname wouldn't be colonies either, because for the biggest part of their history they consisted of trade posts.
>>57674660
Your men couldn't even last through winter without dying.
>>57674731
Stahp bullying ok
>Itt: Dutch butthurt
ayy lmoa
>>57674651
Not him, but Dutch companies used to get the right to establish colonies and declare war in name of the Netherlands.
I'm not saying that's the case here. But that wailing company has the same investors as the investors in the company that established New York and Suriname for example.
>>57674436
>The earliest record of the Russian white, blue, and red tricolor comes from the flag flown on the Oryol.
>The ship was built between 1667 and 1669
>>57672307
>forgetting to mention that sephardi jews expelled from Portugal gave you our travelling knowledge
>>57674830
>the ship's Dutch lead engineer Butler faced the need for the flag, and issued a request to the Boyar Duma, to "...ask His Royal Majesty as to which (as is the custom among other nations) flag shall be raised on the ship." The official response merely indicated that, as such issue is as yet unprecedented, even though the land forces do use (apparently different) flags, the tsar ordered that his (Butler's) opinion be sought about the matter, asking specifically as to the custom existing in his country.
>>57674801
"No"
>>57674853
Thanks for that.. Sorry for stealing Formosa & Ceylon btw
>>57671858
Peter the Great used the flag of the Netherlands while he was trying to westernize the country
He only changed the order and made it the Russian flag and all the other slavic flags followed suit
>>57674954
>Two accounts of the flag's origin connect it to the tricolour used by the Dutch Republic (the flag of the Netherlands); however, the truth of neither having been established, both accounts remain speculative only.
>remain speculative only
The definition of "cool story".
>>57675128
t. sideways belgium
>>57675194
There's no reason to be upset.
>>57675128
Just give up senpai, you can't win
>>57675375
>you can't win
He already did tho
>>57675375
>you can't win
>coming from a netherkek
Can all unoriginal tricolors please leave this thread.
>>57671650
Thanks for finally ending that meme that Poland is slavic.
>>57675375
Een schrille stem klonk van de toilet-stoel. Maar die jongens, zoals altijd, schonken geen aandacht aan dit piepend gekraai. Laat hem kraaien, wat kan een man doen? Haan is geen man, en hij heeft een hele moeilijke nacht vandaag. Hij heeft nu al een half jaar moeilijke nachten gehad, en zijn anus is zo gestrekt geraakt dat hij gemakkelijk een blik gecondenseerde melk erin kan verbergen.
Anyone denying the historical relevance of our country can be ignored because they are either ignorant or trolling. It's not my job to teach some undereducated proletarian about facts which are clearly available on the internet.
Instead I'll rather bask in the glory of living in one of the most if not the most comfortable country in the world.
>>57675527
Poland is slavic, except they can't even into slavic flags, kek
>>57675527
You just stole the Bohemian flag, and ours way inverted Bohemian flag
>>57675527
You are still eastern european though
>>57675408
Sideways me pls leave
>>57675462
And you got cucked by us. Who is the bigger cuck?
>>57672668
Bamberg here, can I say I WUZ DUTCH N SHEIT?
why isnt dutch flag oranje ?
>>57675462
Meanwhile the only thing your people is good at is getting ethnically cleansed you fucking subhuman, what makes you get the nerve you can touch the greatness of our nation? Wtf has Croatia ever done? What empire have you had?
You'll never know of living in a flourishing country, you're just a playdoll for other countries, getting fucked up by Serbia or having your Istrian ass torn up by Mussolini. Getting puppeteered to attack your neighboring countries, so you can commit genocide with your fellow Balkan-vermin brothers.
You will NEVER amount to something, please let that sink in before you ever open your filthy fucking Slavic mouth to a Dutchman ever again.
>>57675896
No need to insult the man. Being Croatian is terrible enough as it is.
>>57675896
>the only reason netherkek is still a country is because americans and europeans come there to smoke weed
>netherkek LITERALLY had to legalize an ADDICTIVE DRUG in order to survive
>>57676048
And they can not afford good paint to this date.
>>57671650
best colours*
>mfw the capital of the Frankish Empire was Paris
DUTCH "WE WUZ" CLAIMS BTFO
>>57676221
Paris is rightful Dutch clay
>>57676157
>>57675887
It's raysis
>>57676048
>the city of Amsterdam alone has a GDP twice as high as the entire country of Crocuckia
Can't make this shit up
>>57676324
>literally had to LEGALIZE an ADDICTIVE DRUG IN ORDER TO keep being a country and NOT BECOME BANKRUPT
Why does a nation take an existing flag and put a piece of fruit on it?
>>57675806
yes
>>57676408
Why does a nation take swamps and put people in them ?
>>57676408
At least something they did that wasn't fruitless
>>57676290
It literally isn't
It was shaped by Romans and Gauls
That said, the Frankish Empire was pathetic. Both Germany and France were the only good things to result from it. The ones deciding to split up the empire were far removed from the Merowinger or Salfranken.
>>57676466
>>57676485
>netherkek BTFO
>>57676494
>Frankish Empire was pathetic
AHAHAHAHAHA
Have you ever heard anyone speak Frankish? It's a German dialect over here but in Northern Bavaria. That's weird since Bavaria wasn't a core region of the Empire.
How come?
>>57676570
It was full of Barbarian Romeboos
Name ONE achievement besides digging up Roman documents
>>57676466
Not any kind of people, but North Africans, Middle Easterners and South-east Asians
We accept Dutch refugees, just so the Dutch know. We can offer you a new, stable homeland, away from 3000 people per square kilometer, those people being radicalized Muslim youth and welfare recipients
But I suppose you're one yourself, Mehmet al-Maghribi
>>57676575
Wel, I speak Low Frankish every day.
>>57676402
How does it feel to respond to facts with baseless claims and pretend to find this situation "funny", genocidebro? Is it nice to slowly descend into delusion about your shithole of a country? Just as funny as when your women were massively raped by the Serbs? Can anyone believe this guy?
I will rebuild Srebrenica and fill it with Croats just so I can feed them to Mladic again, but you can take comfort in the knowledge of:
>dude weed lmao
>>57676466
We are talking about flags, not our bountiful, rugged land.
>>57676640
>Name ONE achievement besides digging up Roman documents
Not getting BTFO by Moors?
>>57676402
>not legalizing weed so you can tax dumb tourists coming here to smoke
It might make your pathetic excuse of a country a bit more relevant
>>57676676
>he thinks serbs genocided croats
So, that's still a no on the education in netherkek bit?
Try looking at a map and find srebrenica, then check which country it's located in
>>57676703
So that's why you did it? I guess I can see the point then, since I never even knew about your country until you were forced to legalize an addictive drug in order to survive. When you resorted to that, it was all over the news.
>>57676642
To be fair, even though the Netherlands is densely populated, the multi-culti paradise is still mostly limited to the Big Western Cities (Holland).
On the other hand, much of Holland is over 10% Muslim, the average of the country is closer to 5%
Send help pls
>>57676753
>srebrenica
Not that anon, but Srebenica is Bosnian, yes? Aren't Bosniaks basically Muslim Croats?
>This """"banter"""" by some T*rks
guys stop bullying croatia pls
>>57676642
>>57676402
>>57676303
It's okay croatbro, your Adriatic coast is prety nice if it consoles you and I'm sure you'll be succesful soon
>>57676892
Bosniaks are turks. You may be thinking of Herzegovians, who are catholic and like to claim that they are Croat, while being a burden on society
>>57671650
/his/ here.
I'm not 100% certain of this, but I think when Peter the Grate was modernizing Russia he was highly inspired by France and made a tricolor banner, red=bravery white=peace and blue=Peter being a francophile. The Dutch just so happen to have those colors on their flag. Lets face it, a shitload of countries use red white and blue.
>>57676702
>400 years of "empire"
>not losing a war is the greatest achievement
Absolutely no other Mark on Europe. Sad stuff. The HRE and France were more important
>>57676753
>rebuild Srebrenica
>fill it with croats
>CROATS
sucker
>>57677045
muh damage control
>>57676702
Also, Karl Martell (who BTFO Moors) was French. He opposed the Dutch Merowinger, he was a Karolinger.
>>57676951
I just joined this thread. A natural reflex to gang on others with my compatriots
>>57676821
As I said. We accept Dutch refugees. It is destined for our tall people to mix, in order to persevere against the manlets of Europe. Plus, your ingenuity will increase our economic and industrial standards and wealth twofold
is dit de nieuwe nederdraad? laten we het hier wat gezelliger maken jongens :)
>>57677065
wegwezen nou
>>57677201
Pricaj hrvatski jebo ti bog isus mater netherkeksku
>>57675666
Austria stole our flag
>>57677166
>It is destined for our tall people to mix
Sorry, we don't want to mix with T*rks
>>57677201
MEER of MINDER Kroaten?
>>57677351
Anon that's rude. Croats aren't Turks, they are Serbs, they remove kebab.
>>57677001
>I'm not 100% certain of this
This is correct
>so many netherkeks mad because somebody finally outed the fact that they stole russia's flag
>>57677351
There's a higher chance you're one, since the /int/ mythos dictates that there are no native Dutch posters here. Your general is full of MENA cartoon loving (latent) homosexuals
>>57677504
>Your general is full of MENA cartoon loving (latent) homosexuals
Actually, that MENA part is wrong.
You are correct on the rest, though I wouldn't use "latent".
>>57677700
The Benelux flags are by far the most likely flags you'll stumble upon an immigrant post, on /int/
That's common knowledge. I'm probably not even talking to a native Dutch right now
>>57677902
I'm Frisian.
And I'd say Germans and Swedes have us beat, albeit by a small margin.
I'd also would like you to send help, we're dying.
>>57678010
>I'm Frisian.
How are you my Frisian friend?
North Frisian here. Well, biologically I'm more Saxon than Frisian, but oh well.
>>57672355
>Charlemagne's empire
>in any way related to the Dutch
Kek
SOME KIND ANON TRANSLATE THIS FOR ME BRETTY PLEASE
>>57677249
>flaming people because they don't speak a language which doesn't exist
>using the Orthodox name for Jesus
Chill out, brate, go roast a pig on a spit and drink some vinjak while listening to epic songs about Stefan Nemanja.
