EU vs USA
Who wins? My vote is for the EU. We have the numbers and more money.
No nukes allowed btw.
>>57669917
if they attack us we win
if we attack them they win
>>57669917
>We have the numbers and more money.
We don't have a united army and American military is stronger than all others in the world combined
Europe stands no chance
The USA, because we as the EU have shit militaries. EU politicians don't notice that to matter in global politics you need to have a good military. economy+military=power (proof me wrong). And because the US is the only one in NATO with a good army we will just be the US's bitch and the EU doesn't matter on global levels.
>>57670020
>"we"
>>57669917
The US has a bigger supply of Rednecks to serve as bullet catchers. Not too mention all the people sitting in jail who could be put into service.
>>57669917
USA easily
>>57669917
>no nukes allowed
That's not how it works
>>57670020
>we
>them
This Turk really is in denial isn't he?
>>57670076
>Shit militaries
France,UK and Germany are all shit?
>>57670020
>we
If there was a war between the EU and US it would go to the US.
We'd easily get the UK to switch to our side, probably France too, and that would start a domino effect where countries who are sick of the EU would just leave in mass until only Germany is left.
>>57670096
If nukes were allowed,neither if us would win since America and Europe would be uninhabitable.
>>57670126
Germany is shit. France and UK is somewhat good but wouldn't stand a chance.
>>57670126
You have to look at the present state of our military, Patrick. Look up the Eurohawk. We're shit.
>>57670020
kek qt
>>57670020
>we
We park 2 carrier fleets in the mediterranean, 2 next to the British Isles and wreck your shit with the help of BREXIT UK allies
>>57670366
Coming from a disgusting slavic Pole
>>57670020
shout out to /r/4chan!
>>57670437
t. Nepland von Fauxpays
>>57670020
don't listen to the bullies
>>57669917
EU has x 1000 times more beautiful cities and villages, it's not even a competition. Some countries are more developed than USA wiill ever be.
>US has slightly less money than a union of large amount of countries
orly :D
>>57670020
>>57670383
Burger standing with the crown
Seems legit
US ally with Russia and then carve yurop up like a christmas turkey
>>57670645
We settled our differences in WW2
Anglos are united militarily again
>>57670632
>US has slightly less rare flags than yours
RARE
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>>57670383
this, never doubt perfidious albion's perfidy
>>57670632
Post feet.
>>57670645
US and UK have been strong allies since the Civil War ended.
>>57670704
>>57670754
Read the fucking initial post ffs
>>57670020
>we
>>57670704
>>57670754
Cucks pêh. Your Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves atm.
>>57670792
>UK
>EU
Not for long
>>57670383
Otherwise, one of pic related and the carrier miserably sink into the salty pisshole called mediterranea.
France has hundreds of these cuties, range : 180km.
>>57670870
Not really. They fought the oppressive taxation of the crown. I think they'd be pretty proud we went from being their colony to their equals and are one of the friendliest countries with each other now.
>>57670870
Our founding fathers were British who wanted independence from the crown. Now that the crown has no power they wouldn't care.
france is greatest ally
carpet bomb united cuckdom first to gain french support
death to the queen
>>57670870
fuck the EU, come join us too pierre. you can split the European continent with the brits afterwards
>>57670978
>Destroy one of France's best allies for over a century will gain their support, while at the same time destroying our greatest European ally
American education.
>>57670941
We know where your airstrips are
You won't know where our carriers are initially
we would get btfo
>>57671018
Now that sounds really interesting. Sign me in !
>>57670978
Greatest ally.
lolno
>>57671034
retard
think about the premise of this thread then take the stick out of your faggoty ass
>>57670126
What >>57670189
and >>57670248
said.
Germanys Army is Shit. It could defend tops against shit stats like some -stan countrys of the old commie block thats about it.
Sad thing is i would still say its in the top 3 of what the EU got after UK and the French.
I would say the UK has a slightly "better" army (with navy and RAF ) since they where more active in Iraq/Afgahnistan and have WAY more Battle Experiance.
But just look at the Numbers.
USA'
Active Soilders: 1.429.995
Reserve: 1.099.915
+ Civis/ Para Military that now at least basic shit / Contractors say what ~ 500.000
Thats about 3.000.000
UK
Active 156,940
Reserve 75,110
~ 250.000
French
300,377 active (incl. 85,358 Gendarmerie)
27,680 reserve
~310.000
Germany
Active personnel 178,171
Reserve personnel 40,000
~225.000
All together ~ 785.000 lets say if the EU all would join 1.000.000 Flat.
Thats means about 3 to 1 in blank numbers + the US has WAY more War experiance.
even if the Commonweath-meme would help its what 1 to 2,5? And i dould canada would do that cause they would be instandly raped.
Prehaps with India but why would that.
Like the Roach said ONLY way that would surive this is guerrilla warfare in our countries since local knowledge.
>>57670020
>we
>>57671094
You also forget that we still have draft laws which would open up another million or so at least. Probably sub par against professional European soldiers but still that would tip the numbers vastly.
>>57671090
You're the retard. If there was a war the UK would be the most likely to switch to us first. Why destroy them?
>>57670020
>we
Other than Turkey not being in the EU you are completely right. The defending party has a massive advantage, which will likely win the war.
>>57671045
Yeah sure.
You talk like France don't have an intelligence agency.
This would probably happen though
>USA declares war on Europe
>All of NATO in Europe allies with the USA
>The rest of Europe allies with the USA
>USA wins with their coalition in the war against Europe
>Russia sends a letter of protest to the UN
>>57669917
i could easily take any American
>>57671243
Russia would honestly team up with us, which mean China will too, just so they can claim the European landmass in the spoils of war.
>>57671316
KEK
France and Germany have good relations with russians.
Okay there was the Mistral crisis but Putin seems to have passed trough, after Paris' attacks he just send a diplomatic ship for France.
>>57671316
>Russia would honestly team up with us
>"""AMERICAN EDUCATION""""
Are you that dense? One of the things you Burgers Underrestemate ist that Merkel fucked up a lot of things but she is one that Putin at least listens to + the ECO witht the EU is WAY better then with the US.
+ More Russians live here in EU that Murricans. so its Russia with EU if the US would start. China would go Neutral.
>>57671448
>>57671448
Russia would still love to carve up Europe and have it.
>>57671480
Well he would see a chance that the EU would be his Pet insted of the US what it is now.
Why destroy when you can have good ECO realations- Long term burger, nothing you have learned from invading iraq.
>>57671555
Trips for the truth.
Abandon thread
>>57669917
>continent vs country
these threads are stupid and I hope all of you die in another potato famine.
Free Trade System has been maintained by USA's navy power, hasn't it?
If Japan and China were to support EU, EU's sea power couldn't win USA's .
I win
All the normies and chads go off to die horribly and the girls don't.
No competition
Beta uprising on the home front
>>57669917
The US is pretty much immune to any sort of serious strike from Europe. The US can strike at Europe pretty easily but can't realistically invade it.
>>57670639
we have spoken
>>57670020
>we
Also, jews win.
>>57671094
total number of active military personnel in EU: around 1.4 million in 2013, considering that in countries like Poland (120 000 active 515 000 reserve) and Finland (30 000 active during peace time/230 000 after full mobilization + another 700 000 trained reservists of military age) there's many times more trained reserves than there are active troops I'd say that EU's combined strength after full mobilization of reserves would dwarf USA's strength
>>57670020
>we
EU easily the predominantly Muslim population of Britain will ALLAHU ACKBAR us
>>57669917
Europe would win like no problem. Americans with all that technology, air force and naval power are still clumsy. During the bombing of Yugoslavia, they only manage to destroy 18 of our tanks in 78 days. Since they couldn't do any major damage against our ground forces, they started bombing our infrastructure, schools, hospitals etc to compensate. And Americans had great technological and economical advantage. Against an enemy of their level, they would lose very fast.
>>57669917
None will win desu. Neither can land troops on each others soil.
>>57670089
We have Eastern Europeans who are used to function as cannon fodder, though.
>>57670020
i like how eurokeks are making fun of turkey but without them you're fucked
>>57669917
USA by a landslide because we have a vastly superior military that is unified and has much more experience. They also completely and utterly lack the capability to invade us
>>57682080
Americans told us that in 3 days we'd be on our knees, but we managed to hold on for 78 days. After realising they barely scratched our ground forces, Americans threatened us with carpet bombing Belgrade, so our leaders signed whatever Americans wanted. To sum it all up, Americans can barely take on a country 400 weaker than her, let alone a same level opponent. All Europe needs against America is good anti-air defense and submarines to sink their aircraft carriers. After that, Europe would switch to attack position and start an invasion on American soil, winning by pure strength in infantry.
>>57669917
USA, because the Italians will join our side, and the EU will fall to infighting.
>>57669917
It's a shame EU countries aren't investing in their militaries but instead use that money to fund social security programs which just attracts more shitskin immigrants. That leaves EU vulnerable and dependant on American protection. It's seems like Europeans enjoy being America's bitches.
>>57669917
>We have the numbers and more money.
Americans have guns and balls. I'd love to watch yuropeons, armed to the teeth with monopoly money (i.e. EURO), get slaughtered by superior Americans.
>>57682314
> After that, Europe would switch to attack position and start an invasion on American soil, winning by pure strength in infantry.
>implying
>winning a ground war versus a country with 350+ million guns in civilian hands
You'd get assraped in the blink of an eye.
>>57669917
I'm with the United States of FREEDOM.
Fuck the EU.
>>57683340
nice smoke trail
>>57670610
>Beautiful cities and villages
>Useful in war
???
We have more battled hardened generals/troops and a more masculine population.
Obviously the GDP expenditure on military is no comparison.
It'd be a war of attrition that neither side would win desu.
>>57685057
Netherlands
>>57685362
>more masculine population.
>>57686177
90% of mainstream European complaints about America have to do precisely with the fact that our population is more masculine and yours is more feminine.
>>57683340
>>57682314
>All Europe needs against America is good anti-air defense and submarines to sink their aircraft carriers. After that, Europe would switch to attack position and start an invasion on American soil, winning by pure strength in infantry.
>this is what serbs actually believe
enjoy taking Russia-tier casualties without having Russia-tier reserves
Our submarine force would overwhelm European navies.
We simply have too many for them to handle.
After we dominate the seas, we can tomahawk their coastal defenses and radar installations from hundreds of miles out.
It wouldn't be much of a fight after that.
>>57686237
masculine, more like obese
The USN can field 6 CVN strike groups at a time.
That alone is enough to ruin anyones day.
Considering we already have basis all over the EU I'm going to say we win by a preemptive strike on every major location
>>57686881
>>57686929
>>57686988
>>57687038
we should get some more stuff
Rather see this happening.
With us out of it of course.
>The Royal Netherlands Navy, with its small force of extremely quiet diesel submarines, has made the U.S. Navy eat the proverbial slice of humble pie on more than one occasion.
>In 1989, naval analyst Norman Polmar wrote in Naval Forces that during NATO’s exercise Northern Star, “…the Dutch submarine “Zwaardvis” was the only orange (enemy) submarine to successfully stalk and sink a blue (allied) aircraft carrier…” The carrier in question might have been the U.S.S. America, as it was a participant in this exercise.
>Ten years later there were reports that the Dutch submarine Walrus had been even more successful in the exercise JTFEX/TMDI99. “During this exercise the Walrus penetrates the U.S. screen and ‘sinks’ many ships, including the U.S. aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt CVN-71.
>The submarine launches two attacks and manages to sneak away. To celebrate the sinking the crew designed a special T-shirt.” Fittingly, the T-shirt depicted the U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt impaled on the tusks of a walrus. It was also reported that the Walrus sank many of the Roosevelt’s escorts, including the nuclear submarine U.S.S. Boise, a cruiser, several destroyers and frigates, plus the command ship U.S.S. Mount Whitney. The Walrus herself survived the exercise with no damage.
>>57685309
Maybe for morale and shit.
Also if you sent your whites away to fight in Europe what would happen with all the niggers and spics?
You would only be able to fight with the stuff you had initially and then not build any more.
>>57687603
Royal Dutch Navy has 4 subs according to Wikipedia.
The USN has around 93 i think, with 2 new Virginia's under construction per year.
