Who was the biggest retard in your cunt's history? I'd say it's our last Kaiser, W*lhelm "Slick Willy" the Second.
>Bismarck painstakingly unifies Germany despite everybody in Europe opposing it because muh balance of power
>Based Otto realizes war is just a tool and keeps combat quick and effective
>1871 comes around and Germany is created with GOAT borders
>Bismarck realizes the country's saturated and no more land is needed
>spends the next years maintaining peace in Europe and alienating our biggest enemy at the time, France
>careful network of diplomatic relations and therefore a foreign policy without disturbance leads to Germany thriving domestically
>in comes pic related
>a cripple with an inferiority complex towards the Brits
>kicks out Bismarck despite knowing fuck all about diplomacy and politics himself
>MUH NAVY
>pisses off the entirety of Europe
>blindly supports Austrians, dragging us into WW2
>pisses away everything Bismarck built in 4 years
wew what a cunt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY&index=79&list=LLHMHNxcxvSj18eTN9xZSe1A&nohtml5=False
>>57613283
He sure is getting strong competition from our current leader though
>tfw Bismarck didn't stage a coup against him
>tfw Bismarck was alive as he witnessed his greatest achievment, the unificatiom of the germanic kingdoms and maintaining peace with all states go to waste as a cripple with a small penis wanted MUH GROß GERMANIA
This insane faggot ruined everything.
>>57613283
Yeah, he should have spent the money on troops and maybe the Germans could have defeated the Russians since Germany was a land power instead of spending it in the navy while being overwhelmed completely by the British navy.
Why would you need a navy anyway? To secure the ever-unstable New Guinea and Namibia?
>>57613283
>blindly supports Austrians, dragging us into WW2
You mean WW1.
But Austria-Hungary is an important ally, why would you bunch of Teutons not support your greatest ally?
>>57613283
this hans >>57613444 is right tbqh, Merkel is doing way worse shit, Willy was just a leader in a really fucked up time period
>>57613601
A-H was going to chimp out all over the Balkans, which was supported by Russia. That was gonna set off the cascade events leading to WW1, Wilhelm shoula seen that.
>>57613737
Willy fucked up the German empire. How could Merkel be worse? As of now, she isn't, by a wide margin
>>57614709
Britain wouldn't been forced to enter the war if you left France and Belgium alone. We didn't really care about the Balkans or Russia. But lil Willy HAD to compare his strength to George and as a result got btfo.
>>57613283
This is anti-german bullshit.
Christopher Clark from Australia disproved the German "Alleinschuld". The Britons started building the Navy, France hated Germany since the 1870's etc.
>>57614739
>>57614739
my sides
>>57615411
France hated Germany just as Germany hated France but that's not reasons to fabricate a war against a peaceful nation, alongside it's neighbours.
>>57615411
Where did I say it was entirely Germany's fault? Willy had no tact and provoked larger powers when he had no place to do so.
Refer to this post
>>57615241
>>57613522
Why fighting against Russia, our greatest friend and ally?
>>57614709
>How could Merkel be worse?
She destroys the German race.
willy?
After Peter succeeded to the Russian throne (5 January 1762 [O.S. 25 December 1761]), he withdrew Russian forces from the Seven Years' War and concluded a peace treaty (5 May [O.S. 24 April] 1762) with Prussia (the "Miracle of the House of Brandenburg"). He gave up Russian conquests in Prussia and offered 12,000 troops to make an alliance with Frederick II of Prussia (19 June [O.S. 8 June] 1762). Russia thus switched from an enemy of Prussia to an ally — Russian troops withdrew from Berlin and marched against the Austrians.[7] This dramatically shifted the balance of power in Europe, suddenly handing the delighted Frederick the initiative. Frederick recaptured southern Silesia (October 1762) and subsequently forced Austria to the negotiating table.
>>57615644
Faggot.
>>57615241
>Britain wouldn't been forced to enter the war if you left France and Belgium alone.
Not true. GB wanted the war. Hurr Durr Belgium Schlieffenplan
>>57615504
We won a war against France in 1871, since then they wanted revenge.
>>57615554
>provoked larger powers
He was forced by the Oberste Heeresleitung.
>>57615504
>peaceful neighbours
You fucking Cucks were so afraid of the German navy its unbelievable. Cuckhill even said:"We need our Navy to survive you don't need it pls stop making boats." Fucking Anglo
>>57613283
Well, where do I start...
>>57615644
I like this guy.
>>57615738
This
>>57615624
No, we're destroying ourselves. Merkel flip-flops all the time, she makes promises to refugees, then backpedals due to party pressure. She closes some routes, then starts saying some pathetic emotional shit on national TV.
The problem lies with feelings of German guilt in the general population.
>>57613283
I'd say it was fucking hitler, stupid German cunt
Probably that guy
>>57615644
Honestly, the guy wasn't half bad. If Russia and her allies had destroyed Prussia, as was the goal of that war, then the Kremlin would have no one to help keep the balance of power in the region with regards to Austria.
Keeping Prussia strong in order to stop Austria from chimping out whenever it pleased served Russian interests far more than giving Austria the richest province in Eastern Europe and keeping for itself some backwater shithole to show for it.
>>57615813
NZ plz
>>57615798
She follows the rules of the Frankfurter Schule. Destroy the German Population to prevent Fascism.
>>57615843
Ab nach Kassel mit dir!
Hatoyama, prime minister 2009-10
>>57615843
Nah.
Wilhelm was really not as bad as far too many indoctrinated faggots think. He wasn't good or bad, and he actualky improved comditions for his people during his reign, which was a time of great prosperity.
>>57615843
Nappy III did nothing wrong except at Sedan. The country strived under his rule.
If you want a true retard, try finding who ruled us during the 7 Years War, or becore WWII.
>>57615847
>keeping for itself some backwater shithole
>Eastern Prussia
>then the Kremlin would
The capital was somewhere else.
Don't even want to argue with another murican history expert.
>>57615967
>implying Willy had anything to do with the long-standing economic forces that made Germany the world's foremost industrial power
Actually Kaiser Willy wanted to join the German Empire and the Austro-Hungarian Empire and then declare war on the Russian Empire and claim her territories. Unfortunately The British, French, and Russian Empires read the very well and forced Austro-Hungary into war before the two empires unite.
Thank God the allies won WW1. A German dominated Europe is a disgusting one. I mean just look at the mess of Europe right now with the Fourth Reich of Cuckolds.
>>57616044
This was a great idea. No more Polandball.
This guy. Whoever gave this guy a chance in his profession deserves to be killed.
>>57615885
>>57616106
>Actually Kaiser Willy wanted to join the German Empire and the Austro-Hungarian Empire and then declare war on the Russian Empire and claim her territories.
This is totally untrue. Anti-German propaganda.
>>57615411
>The Britons started building the Navy
They already had a massive navy, as did France. Because those countries had sprawling colonial empires and their navies were necessities to upkeep them. Germany barely had colonies, and Bismarck initially didn't even want those colonies. Germany had no need for a navy and built it purely to compete with England.
>France hated Germany since the 1870's
Because of Alsace, which Bismarck had proposed to keep untouched because he did not want to make France an enternal enemy. It was defeated, humiliated and Germany unified, for Bismarck that was enough.
Face it, all the blame for both world wars is squarely on Germany's shoulders. And literally all of that because nobody listend to Bismarck, not Von Moltke and not Wilhelm.
>>57616044
>Province full of bogs and forests with one meh-sized city
>In a country full of prosperous cities and fertile farms and places with natural resources
>Not a backwater shithole
>mUH PREUSSENS GLORIA!!! XDDD
>the Kremlin would
It's called a demonym you untermensch Krokodil faggot, one that's historically been used to describe Russia for years. That was just pedantic.
>>57616160
Inaccurate as well. The Britons didn't conquer Dresden, the Red Army did.
>>57616217
>>57616192
>Face it, all the blame for both world wars is squarely on Germany's shoulders.
Again not true.
Read Christopher Clark: The Sleepwalkers: How Europe Went to War in 1914.
Germany didn't want the war.
wasn't Hitler your worst leader, all things considering
>>57613444
Cant agree more.
>>57616238
WW2 was a logical result from the Versailles Treaty after WW1.
And we didn't want WW1.
>>57616192
>WW1 was Germany's fault
Nice meme. Everybody was happy to escalate things. Willy even tried to backpedal and make nice with the Tsar a few days before the war.
I do agree though that colonialism and building a Navy were a mistake. Bismarck got it right. The military is a tool, not some penis extension. Had we played nice and adhered to his principles, we might still have the borders 1871 as well as a healthy sense of national pride.
Militaristic faggots just had to ruin everything.
>>57616171
Actually Kaiser Willy wanted to destroy the Russian Empire and to do so was to cut Russia from Europe by annexing European Russia and he understood the only way to do so was to unite with the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
>>57616340
>we gud bois dindu nuffin
>need mo loans fo dem reparationz
>>57616300
Yes, but he was out of this world retarded, it's hard to quantify it.
Also, who keeps responding to the Kiwi? He's just here for the (You)s. Leave him be.
>>57616340
Your Kaiser wanted a war however he didn't want one involved with Britain and France only with Russia.
To hell with you lying German bastards!
>>57615411
There is always one of you guys who fires his autism reactor up to maximum
>>57616373
>Had we played nice and adhered to his principles, we might still have the borders 1871 as well as a healthy sense of national pride.
I doubt it. We were forced into WW1, no matter how big our army was.
>>57616379
Who has told you this bullshit?
>>57616419
NZ shitposter plz
>>57616027
>Nappy III did nothing wrong except at Sedan.
>Mexican expedition
>Won the Italian Campaign against Austria only because they had worst logistics and commanders than France
>Failed to establish a stable state and
>Was always uncertain in his decisions
The only good things he did were the rebuilding of Paris and the end of protectionism
>>57616278
What did Cristopher Clark have to say about the July Crisis then? Because primary sources show very clearly that the Germans wanted war sooner rather than later. They wanted war and they did not want to delay it until France and Russia were optimally militarized making them undefeatable.
>>57616340
I agree but not for the same reasons. It was inevitable because Germany was not punished enough. Its industry was left intact and the nation undivided, ready for revenge.
>>57616373
>Everybody was happy to escalate things.
Except there were multiple times other nations tried to downplay matters, such as with the Morroco crisis or the 1912 (I think?) Balkan crisis. It was only in 1914 that Germany's carte blanche to Austria opened Pandora's box.
>>57616452
>Your Kaiser wanted a war however he didn't want one involved with Britain and France only with Russia.
No. Willy didn't want a war at all.
>>57616483
Antifa detected
>>57616452
Also to add the reason why the German Empire was threatened by the Russian Empire was because Russia planed to unite all slavic peoples into one empire and it was a hindering factor in Germany's plan to dominate Europe through the union of the German and Austro-Hungarian Empire.
>>57616548
>wanted war sooner rather than later
This is inaccurate. If there is a war incoming, you will start it when it's optimal for you.
>>57616548
>It was inevitable because Germany was not punished enough.
Why do you hate us so much? We didn't destroy France after the victory 1871 either.
>>57616666
>This is inaccurate.
>If there is a war incoming, you will start it when it's optimal for you.
Non sequitur
>Why do you hate us so much?
Because Europe as it is today is your legacy. Had France destroyed the German troops in 1870 then we wouldn´t have to deal with all the white guilt bullshit and the decline of colonialism and the genocide of the white race. All countries have done good things and bad things, but Germany has only done evil ever since its inception. Whether it´s under the flag of militarism, nazism or multiculturalism, Germany is a menace to all those who value Europe and the white race.
this fucking faggot
a retarded blind goldfish with down syndrome would be a better king jesus
>>57616548
I agree that the blank cheque was obviously conducive to escalating the situation, but the blame lies on Austria-Hungary and Serbia mostly, with us as close second.
>Industry intact
What do you think should've been about Germany then? Our economy was fucked and all these reparations gutted our economy anyway.
Also, any punishment against Germany should've logically applied to Austria as well.
>>57616560
see
>>57616579
German bastard scum.
Too bad you German scum succeeded in destroying the Russian Empire by using communism.
Lenin was a German spy sent to destroy the Russian Empire (which he did).
>>57616767
>white guilt bullshit
This is the result of the Post WW2 propaganda by the allies. Frankfurter Schule, Adorno, Marcuse, 68s.
>>57616522
3 of these are irrelevant and I don't how the state was more unstable than it was before.
>>57616767
>only evil
Yeah, continental philosophy was evil. So were our contributions to arts and literature. We account for a big part of the European identity.
White guilt is also an American invention, it followed slavery and swapped over to Europe with the rest of American culture.
>white genocide
Oh, so you're a poltard. Explain how white people refusing to breed is a genocide. I'm white myself but you just shot yourself in the leg with that retarded argument
>>57616850
>Too bad you German scum succeeded in destroying the Russian Empire by using communism.
>Lenin was a German spy sent to destroy the Russian Empire (which he did).
Now the bait begins.
I could also say the Jews created Marxism to rule over the world.
And we also nearly got a communist regime in 1918/19 and got one in 1949.
>>57616828
>but the blame lies on Austria-Hungary and Serbia mostly, with us as close second.
I agree except for
>Serbia
You know that the ten agreements Serbia was supposed to submit to basically came down to surrendering national sovereignity, right? And in spite of that, the Serbians agreed with 9/10. It was Austria first, Germany second. Serbia was the first victim if anything, and yet they defended heroically against the Germanic hordes and their Magyar slaves.
>>57616873
>This is the result of the Post WW2 propaganda by the allies
Which would never have gotten as big a following as it did if not for the Satan figure that is Hitler.
>Frankfurter Schule
Yes, because that totally absolves Germany of all responsibility right?
>>57613283
So you admit that Germany caused WW1 ?
>>57616666
France was also left with huge reparations to pay, it's honor shattered, and a major political and economical crisis hit us. But we didn't chimp out and bitched about the "diktat" like you did.
If anything, we didn't enforce the Versailles Treaty enough.
>>57617000
It wouldn't have happened without the carte blanche given by Willy.
German history is a clusterfuck since 1914. Bismarck was the last great statesman.
>>57616994
You cannnot Talk clearly in your German hate.
>we lost WW2
>allies flood us with self-hating (Jewish) propaganda
The Germans fault!!1!
>>57616873
By allowing the devil Lenin to return to Russia you literally shot yourself in the foot and destroyed western civilization by releasing the great satan destroyer of western civilization.
If Germany never released that hound the revolution would have failed and the soviet brainwashing and destruction of western civilization would have never happened.
Good thing Germans are dearly paying for their crimes against the whole world.
Drown in refugee semen you worthless pigs! Die along with your "glorious" empire!
>>57616939
But it's true. The only reason Lenin was allowed passage into Germany was to force Russia out of the war. Your Kaiser allowed the satan to genocide we poor Russians. You have the blood of every Russian in your hands you disgusting maggot you devil.
>>57616886
>tarnishes the reputation of the French military through ignominious defeat by a bunch of 5'4' tan machete-wielders
>racks up massive debt to do it
>needlessly alienates a crucially needed ally in the fight to contain Prussian expansionism and the rise of a unified German threat, in favor of creating a strong nation to the south with territorial claims on France (Nice/Nizza)
>Did not follow a coherent foreign policy seeking to advance French interests in Europe, instead following a pants-on-head retarded "play it by ear" strategy
How is this "irrelevant"? I'll give you the fact that he couldn't create a stable state, the French have always been ungovernable niggers anyway. But the three things above pretty much ensured that Sedan would take place years before it did.
>>57617000
No. Every European Nation sleepwalked into WW1.
>>57617037
We didn't gave you the Alleinschuld on the war 1870/71. And this war was much smaller than WW1.
>>57616994
Please address these points
>>57616933
>>57617037
You weren't nearly as punished as we were, simply by virtue of being on the winning side. I'm not defending what happened after 1919, but the treaty was too harsh. Everybody agrees, except for basement nationalists apparently.
>>57617081
>Drown in refugee semen you worthless pigs!
Kek, you will drown as well when you don't get any EU money from our German taxpayers.
>>57616828
>Also, any punishment against Germany should've logically applied to Austria as well.
Austria had its empire split apart. There was no Austrian empire any longer.
And is it not logical for Germany to pay for the destruction caused by the war in Belgium and France?
>>57617037
>Deposed Emperor the minute news reaches Paris of his defeat
>Didn't chimp out
o i am laffin
>>57617154
This
>>57617195
>And is it not logical for Germany to pay for the destruction caused by the war in Belgium and France?
It's not about the reparations, it's about the Alleinschuld.
>>57617233
>Alleinschuld
Nazi propaganda.
>>57616340
>And we didn't want WW1.
Then why did you declare it?
>>57617184
I would rather be poor and eating food pigs wont eat than be a slave to German bastard scum.
Your lands should be split, your people hanging, and your houses torched.
You can keep your precious pet refugees and semen drenched EU money.
German filth need to die.
For every Russian killed 10 German's need to die.
>>57617154
The second post does not follow. As for the first I already adressed that: not only does that American teaching draw inspiration from the German Frankfurter Schule but it also became unquestionable after Hitler poisoned the well for all non-Marxists. Sure the Germans wrote some nice books here and there, but overwhelmingly Germany's evil greatly outshines the good it has done. And most of the good things Germany produced were from before the unification.
>the winning side
Nigger, the Netherlands maintained a policy of Armed Neutrality in both world wars. We never asked for it to be violated.
>>57617285
Wilhelm dindu nuffing Gutte Jungen.
>>57616828
>Our economy was fucked and all these reparations gutted our economy anyway.
That's entirely your fault you know: instead of raising taxes to pay for the war you took huge loans thinking "we will make the entente pay once we win the war".
So it is kind of hypocritical to whine about the reparations don't you think?
>>57617278
>"The Allied and Associated Governments affirm and Germany accepts the responsibility of Germany and her allies for causing all the loss and damage to which the Allied and Associated Governments and their nationals have been subjected as a consequence of the war imposed upon them by the aggression of Germany and her allies."
>Art. 231 Versailles Treaty
Nazi Propaganda. Sure.
>>57617285
We were forced into it.
>>57617357
Do people like this guy not realize how sad it looks when they get outrageously mad online?
>>57617285
Hey, Clark said it and he's not German! so it's fine to deny ANY German involvement in the escalation of matters nowadays.
When it comes to guilt for WW1, it's like this:
Austria>Germany>Serbia
>>57617128
You took Alsace-Lorraine though. And we sure had to pay.
>>57617108
I don't agree for Mexico since no one back the or today gave a flying fuck.
But you may be right about Austria and his European Politics. If only Italy wasn't so useless.
Anyway Napoléon III dtarted the Industrial Revolution in France and reinforced our relationship with Britain, and that was important too. Also, I was comparing his policy with our policy during the 7YW (and all our colonial policy in the XVIII century) and pre-WWII, wich had arguably way worse consequences.
>>57617435
What you quoted does not mean "all the blame for the war is on Germany alone". It does not even mean "all the blame for the war is on the triple alliance alone".
>>57617357
...
>>57617395
>not only does that American teaching draw inspiration from the German Frankfurter Schule but it also became unquestionable after Hitler poisoned the well for all non-Marxists.
What?
>>57617435
>We were forced into it.
Kraut fairy tales.
Belgium was forced into it.
>>57617471
>You took Alsace-Lorraine though.
Yes, because the tartes were too delicious.
>>57617435
Well yeah? "Germany & Co should pay for the stuff they broke when invading Beligum and France".
That doesn't seem like an humiliation to me.
>>57617395
Winning side was referring the French anon.
"some nice books" is a vast understatement Seeing as you're so concerned with White Genocide you should be aware of the European identity and the positive influence which whites had on the whole world. Philosophy, arts and science are essential vessels through which white-european ideals were spreading all over the planet. All those fields were heavily German-dominated, especially during the Kaiserreich you so loathe.
tl;dr: Germany contributed greatly to European achievements and identity. We may not have had colonies, but we spread civilization through immaterial goods.
>>57617594
>we spread civilization
Hunnic "culture" is not civilization.
>>57617459
You, your country, your countrymen, and leaders are the sole reason why my country and countrymen suffered.
My people sent to gulags to work to death, genocided by filthy communists, our lands stripped, our wealth redistributed, our houses given to the poor. Everyone in Eastern Europe suffered because of what you filthy disgusting excuses for civilization have done.
I have all the reason to be angry against scum Germans.
You make the filthy warlord prophet of barbarians look tame in comparison to your barbaric bloodlust ways.
Once a German, Always a German.
>>57617396
Well, those terrible decisions were made by a political elite the average German had no influence over
So the people suffered for these mistakes, which aggravated them greatly. Combine that with losing the war and you have a recipe for rabid nationalism, which led to WW2.
>>57617492
Of couse it does. We had to accept being the aggressor, the Bad guy.
The question who caused the war should not be answered in a treaty but by the historical scholarship.
>>57617226
We chimped out internally, obviously, but we didn't complain for decades to the world, still referencing the "diktat" today, and we didn't single-handedly provike another world war like those bitchy Germans did.
>>57617154
I'm talking about 1871. We sure weren't on the losing side back then. Also Versailles only felt too harsh because of the 1929 crisis that followed.
>>57617637
I referred to philosophy, arts and science. You can't deny German influence in these fields.
>>57617542
>Belgium was forced into it.
Yes, but we didn't want the initial war. Strawman argument.
>>57617580
We were forced to accept that we were the aggressor. And this is not true.
>>57617664
What did we do to you in 1871? Bismarck went easy on you guys.
>>57617650
>>57617594
This. Kant, Goethe, Schiller, Nietzsche, Feuerbach and many more.
>>57617650
>communism was Germans fault
No!
>>57617501
>What?
Do you honestly not notice that "Fascist" or "Extreme Right" have become buzzwords to silence all anti-Marxists elements? Do you not realize that the only reason these words have such silencing power is because they draw a connection between the anti-Marxist elements of society and Adolf Hitler?
>>57617594
>Seeing as you're so concerned with White Genocide you should be aware of the European identity and the positive influence which whites had on the whole world.
I'm looking at net influence overall, which in general was overwhelmingly more negative than positive. If we retroactively erase all German achievements since 1870 a lot would be lost, but infinitely more would be preserved.
>>57617724
Bismarck did, but Von Moltke didn't. Congratulations, you now understand literally everything that went wrong in modern European history.
>>57617701
>>57617653
You did invade Belgium and France, which is why the destructions were located there. That's what "aggressor" means.
>>57617664
>Also Versailles only felt too harsh because of the 1929 crisis that followed.
No. We suffered from the beginning of the Weimar Republic. It was sure to fail due to the treaty.
>>57617765
>Kant, Goethe, Schiller, Nietzsche, Feuerbach and many more.
Once again, most of those were pre-unification. No unified Germany was needed for most of those.
>>57617651
So it's both the German elite and the German people's fault.
>>57617847
>Whaaaa, whaaaa, our industrial base was left untouched while your industrial and coal-mining regions have been razed, you guys are too hard on us for expecting us to contribute to its reconstruction
>>57617817
>Do you honestly not notice that "Fascist" or "Extreme Right" have become buzzwords to silence all anti-Marxists elements? Do you not realize that the only reason these words have such silencing power is because they draw a connection between the anti-Marxist elements of society and Adolf Hitler?
True.
>>57617820
Aggressor is the country who started a war.
>>57617701
>declare war on someone
>attack someone
>not an aggressor
The Versailles treaty was only a mistake in it was too lenient. Germany should have been completely dismantled.
Ditto the post-WW2 order, though the start of the Cold War forced the hand of the West there.
>>57617561
Then you shouldn't have complained after WWI
>>57617851
Those were mostly Prussians. And Prussian is German.
>>57617910
And yet you wonder why the nationalistic elements became stronger and caused WW2.
>>>57617561
RIP Edith Cavell
>>57617919
>Germany should have been completely dismantled.
Then we would now have communism all over Europe/the world.
>>57617951
Elsaß was not the main point.
>>57617916
>Aggressor is the country who started a war.
Aggressor means "the one who attacks first". You declared war and invaded, I'd say that's quite fitting to the definition.
>>57617973
I don't wonder, I know: because the German are a terrible and barbaric people.
>>57617724
Humiliation, territorial losses, reparations, just like you after WWI. We also suddenly had to deal with a huge empire, more powerful and more populated just by our side.
>>57618067
yes but French people are gay
>>57617765
WE DINDU NUFFIN. WE WUZ GOOD BOIS. NEED MO LEBENSRAUM FO DEM ARYANZ.
Fucking German shits. I spit on your ancestors grave! May all your kind boil excrement's in the fiery pits of hell.
You wash your hands just like Pontius did. "HEHE NOT OUR FAULT GUYS HAHA EXDE"
At least the crimes of your people are being answered. Thank God for the refugees.
10 million and counting.
There is a God after all. A God that is truly just. My ancestors are smiling in heaven, Do you see that you filthy krauts? That's pure ecstasy in their faces knowing that their pain and suffering will be also felt by your disgusting kind but worse. Karma is real after all.
>>57617973
>Those were mostly Prussians.
And Prussia existed prior to Germany's unification. The fuck is your point even?
>>57618023
No we wouldn't you gigantic fucking retard. The Poles resisted and were victorious over the Soviets in 1920. They were a sturdy and powerful bastion against the Red Dragon, until Hitler handed half of the country over to Stalin on a silver platter. And let's not forget how WW2 was concluded: with half of Europe communist.
Oh, and here's the big one: Lenin was financed by Kaiser Wilhelm who wanted to knock Russia out of WW1.
>>57617919
It's funny isn't it:
>WW1
>Germany is forced to pay some money, and has restriction on the size of its army
This is too hard, this will lead to another war
>WW2
>Germany is split apart, occupied, shamed and humiliated
This is perfect, no war will start.
Splitting Germany apart and de-prussianing the country is what should have been done in 1918.
>>57613283
Gaddafi
not only did he take down a constitutional monarchy (king idris was only ceremonial we were a democratic nation) and replaced it with a communist dictatorship
he also fucked up our relations with every cuntry in the west (we had a military alliance with both USA and UK under king idris) and made our army lose to fucking niggers on toyotas
Truly a retard of wonder
>>57613283
>despite everybody in Europe opposing it
Russia was neutral. This is in the first place why Prussia could unite Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctation_of_Olm%C3%BCtz
>Prussia abandoned the Erfurt Union and accepted the revival of the German Confederation under Austrian leadership
>It is also known as the "humiliation of Olmütz", as the treaty was seen by many as a capitulation of the Prussians to the Austrians
>This development had occurred also because Czar Nicholas I of Russia had chosen the side of Austria in the Warsaw negotiations in October 1850. In the Punctation, Prussia gave up its claim for the leadership of the German states
>>57618113
There's litteraly nothing wrong with that.
>>57618038
We were forced into it.
>>57618067
t. Frog eater
>>57618098
Mimimimi
>>57618247
>We were forced into it.
Doesn't matter.
>>57618123
You are shizophrenic.
>>57618152
>The fuck is your point even?
That Germany = Prussia.
>>57618154
Maybe we start WW3 now.
>>57618247
>mimimimi
?
>>57618113
Yes we are. Wanna pork, Nigel ?
>>57618162
But Clinton bombing Him away causes 1 million niggers floating into the EU over Libya per anno.
>>57618260
Wew lad.
>>57618348
German expression for crying.
>>57618154
>deprussianing the country
Thanks based god, prussian hatred towards poles was biggest part of prussian national identity.
>>57618401
The niggers floating is the fault of qatar and turkey supporting the muslim brotherhood here who were butthurt over losing the elections to secularists
we were doing fine in 2012 till those stupid brotherhood happened
>>57618326
And you are deluded if you think that Germany is some sort of pure maiden riding across the lands teaching goodness and love and spreading tolerance and yada dada da dada.
I hope our countries will go to war soon. I cannot wait to gun down German people the same way they gun downed my people. I will make sure to shoot the "innocent" civilians.
WE DINDU NUFFINS WONG MANG WE WUZ JUST NEED DEM LEBENSRAUM FO D MAZDA RAIZ N SHEEEIT. DAS RITE MANG.
Another thread in /int/ that started out promising and ended with two retards chimping out (the buttblasted Slav and the "WE WUZ FORCED N SHIET" German)
gg Dutchanon I liked talking to you. I agree that Prussian militarism fucked us over. Bismarck would've rotated in his grave
One final question:
What should Germany's punishment have been post WW1? Do you feel the post-WW2 punishment was adequate?
Charles the First or Charles the fith as you preffer.
That retard destroyed all Castillian industry,because it was competing with Flander's and focused all the resoueces in pointless wars that got nothing done and just endebted the kingdom.On top of that his inbreed genetics lead to retarded kings like pic. I dont know how a country can be so unlucky to be inherited by the assburgers.
>>57618488
On behalf of my country and its people i hereby apologize for the youtube comment level sperg in this thread
>>57618401
I didn't know that, because thank God I don't speak German.
>>57618422
Polandball plz
>>57618455
There were supported by CIA (Clinton) too.
>>57618639
>Polandball plz
He's right though.
Teutonic Order united Germany.
>>57618639
why the fuck would the CIA support the muslim brotherhood?
>>57618480
Indeed shizophrenic.
>>57618488
Antifa plz. Ich diskutiere ganz normal.
>>57618598
And I apologize for people like you.
>>57618488
Everything worked better for us while you were divided, so from my French point of view I would say partition, even if I doubt it would have been possible. WWII was ok.
>>57618598
Good goy.
>>57618672
To destabilize northern Africa, so that the niggers can float into Europe.
This will damage Europe's economy.
>>57618692
>WE WERE FORCED INTO IT
>MIMIMI
You didn't even bother going into depth about how Germany's hand was forced.
>>57618672
CIA supports whoever suits them, Ahmed, see the Talibans. They are scum too.
>>57618488
Germans should be a minority in their own country.
it should be 10% White Germans and then 90% Niggers and Arabs.
That way they will be living a life of hell they deserve.
I like the course we are going. God favours the Slavs. We are always faithful to him and he rewards us. Just please Lord send more refugees. Maybe 100K-200K a day send them all to Germany and make their journeys safe.
Lord God please safe guard all incoming refugees coming to Germany.
Amen.
>>57618789
this is retarded
CIA helped take down the Democratly elected president of Egypt cuz he was brotherhood
if anything USA doesn't want an unstable cuntry this close to its NATO allies
this only serves Russia
also what is going on atm (now that the civil war is over with the exception of that ISIS base in sirte) is a war of influence
every cuntry wants to include us in their sphere of influence cuz oil reich and strategic postition and shit
I'm racking my brains here, but did we ever have a truly awful leader?
I mean, we had some bad kings but they didn't set us back whatsoever and we still became the biggest empire the world has ever seen by ~1920..
All our PM's were alright, really. No huge decisive fuckhead that I can think about.
Who could we have done without to be in a better position than we are today?
>>57618812
I already told you we sleepwalked into WW1 just like France and England.
>>57618843
Slav plz
>>57613283
We had many retarded kings but the biggest retards are us, we keep electing morons.
>>57618902
>Mursi
>democratic
Kek
Also I talked abou Lybia, not Egypt.
>>57618843
if germans are the 10% minority in their own country, then what car will slavs drive since BMWs and mercs won't be around anymore?
>>57618920
Maybe Tony Blair.
>>57618959
True. I hope you will vote for Le Pen, not Hollande or Sarkozy.
>>57618967
Superior Japanese cars. Don't worry I'm sure die neue deutschlanders will make make us good cars ja.
>>57615644
only reason why the brits won the seven years war.
>>57619016
but slavs don't drive japanese cars
they only drive german cars
and ladas
This massive cuck, Carl Olof Cronstedt, surrendered to the Russian bastards although he was in a fortified position with 3 times the men of the besieging Russian "army". If it wasn't for this traitorous scum, the Swedish borders would've looked very different today.
>>57619051
Not me. I make it a duty not to patronise German products. I do not want my ancestors suffering to go to waste.
>>57619081
Prototype of Carl the Cuck
>>57615843
This guy was good for domestic affairs, he was shit diplomatically. And anyway the republicans made sure he goes to war unprepared against germany, so he loses power and republicans could take over.
>>57618162
>made our army lose to fucking niggers on toyotas
ebin
>>57619093
Who cares?
>>57618920
This. You never had a really stupid leader. We did abd that held us back a lot. Life's unfair pêh.
>>57619145
You do. I do not know why you replied.
>>57618920
Henry VI was a mental case who caused us to lose all our land in France, so him
>>57617765
>>57617650
The Germans are not human beings. Henceforth the word German means to us the most terrible curse. From now on the word German will trigger your rifle. We shall not speak any moe. We shall not get excited. We shall kill. If you have not killed at least one German a day, you have wasted that day... If you cannot kill your German with a bullet, kill him with your bayonet. If there is calm on your part of the front, if you are waiting for the fighting, kill a German before combat. If you leave a German alive, the German will hang a Russian and rape a Russian woman. If you kill one German, kill another - there is nothing more amusing for us than a heap of German corpses. Do not count days; do not count miles. Count only the number of Germans you have killed. Kill the German - this is your old mother's prayer. Kill ther German - this is what your children beseech you to do. Kill the German - this is the cry of your Russian earth. Do not waver. Do not let up. Kill.
>>57619093
>a slav who doesn't drive BMW
>a slav who doesn't wear adidas tracksuits
holy shit lads i found a double unicorn
>>57619228
If Henry V didn't die too early it would have probably been a United Kingdom of England, Scotland, Ireland, and France.
Truly glorious.
Literally nearly turned England into a Muslim state
>>57619373
in both cases France would have won.
the HYW truly was a war with no downsides for us.
>>57619368
This isn't the fucking 90s. Only gopnik subhumans patronise German trash(Their grandparents were probably raped by filthy Germans).
>>57619330
Jeder Stoß, ein Franzos!
Jeder Schuß, ein Ruß!
Jeder Tritt, ein Britt!
>>57619443
Nope. Henry V was already King of France and your nobles were too scared to do anything. Just too bad he died too soon.
>>57619456
how much does putin pay you :^)
>>57619330
Уcпoкoйcя, тoвapищ
>>57619510
Your flag looks like the Czech's one. Yet you post from the Philippines.
Where do you actually come From?
>>57619510
I mean if "england" had won, France would have gained power through this union.
>>57619373
Good taste.
>>57619563
fur free mein kameraden :^).
>>57616278
>Read Christopher Clark: The Sleepwalkers: How Europe Went to War in 1914.
or rather read the dozen books debunking his thesis
or the primary sources doing the same
in an attempt to analyze the situation from a viewpoint detached from the accepted consensus of the causes of the war
he had basically moved to an extreme (and untenable) position, ignoring the forest for the trees - and literally ignoring evidence (!!!) - such as the 1912 war council reports
herwig, mombauer, otte, forster etc. are all big names in ww1 historiography whose work outright ravages most of clarks notions, incl. the chief one
>Germany didn't want the war.
o im lafin
>>57619613
Yea like Ireland did
>>57619607
Russian Expat.
>>57619613
No because England would have been very rich from trading. England would have been able to trade properly know that France has been subdued.
The only reason France is French and not British is literally just by pure luck.
>>57619707
>consensus
Just ally propaganda.
>>57619711
Yup, England would have become our Ireland (or rather our Scotland)
>>57615738
>scared of deserters
nice meme buddy, stay mad you were barely ever superpower status
Oh my god, this asshole...
>Previous president was incredibly unpopular because he realized there was nothing he could do about the depression and thus didn't do anything
>In comes FDR running on a platform of "don't worry I'll figure out something"
>Wins in a landslide
>Tries EVERYTHING suggested to him
>Subsidizes farmers to grow more cereals, this is part of the reason we're so fat today
>Burns those same crops to artificially raise the price of food despite rampant hunger, to preserve the farmers' profits
>Starts a literal ponzi scheme to benefit the cranky old people who lost their retirement funds in the stock market crash, still known as "social security"
>Spends billions of imaginary dollars on make-work programs, mostly building infrastructure and useless random buildings
>And so on and so on and...
>Economy remains in the shitter until 1939 when WWII starts and Europeans star buying American war supplies in bulk
>Depression is completely gone in 1942 because all the unemployed people either got jobs making war materials or joined the military
>Gets all the credit for it and is remembered as one of the best presidents
>>57613283
HOLLANDE
rate
>>57619711
It wasn't nearly the same situation.
Ireland is a shihole.
Back then "France" and "England" didn't exist in people's mind or anywhere else. Had the "English" side won, we would have ended up with a huge empire ruled by the same French-speaking monarchy and dynasty, with peasants who spoke their local dialects not giving a shit. The differences that exist today wouldn't even exist.
It wasn't a war between two countries, two nations or two people. It was a war between two closely related families over who would rule the masses of peasants, peasants who back then were exactly the same on both sides of the Channel.
>>57619977
Please consider suicide.
>>57613444
Trips telling the sad sad truth
>>57620012
7/10
>>57619711
England was ruled by french nobles, england would be considered as it was, a minor kingdom. France was all it mattered for them, they always lived in France when they could. You would have become our scotland, like it became for you.
>>57620075
well it was hard getting it all scaled right with no graphics skill
>>57619973
Related
Republican bastard, removed our best monarchy and now our monarchy are nothing more than German usurpers. REMOVE CROMWELLIAN SCUM.
>>57620012
delet this
>>57619977
Reagonomics didn't work as well.
>>57620002
True.
>>57620127
>implying your gay monarchy matters, at all
Germany slimmed down a lot with all those world wars.
Shit, does WWI & II stand for "world war" or "weight watchers"?
>>57620115
Meh, you just wanted to blame someone. The war started affecting civillians so it was just that you surrendered. Only thing Willy did I commend, although the Germans were literally cunts to you and deserved the depression.
>>57620144
my antique OC
>>57620012
Soon...
>>57620195
Americans* that doesnt make much sense
>>57620013
>Back then "France" and "England" didn't exist in people's mind or anywhere else.
Also Henry V spoke English and the only reason they were related was because Edward 1 married the kings daughter which gave them a claim. Actually Edward III was the rightful king of France but French nobles got butthurt and didn't want an English king on their throne
>>57620212
exactly
>>57620179
Kek, good one, Muhammad.
>>57620195
Some faggots didn't want a sea war with GB.
>>57620260
I am not autistic enough to put a Paypay in this.
>>57618559
They made Spain great. Fuck the Bourbons.
>>57620269
You'd lost the war at that point, still, the stupid commies should've fought til the last breath. Hitler was a poof for killing off the SA (Freikorps.)
>>57620253
>Actually Edward III was the rightful king of France
It wasn't. Royal Inheritance can't be transmitted through women.
>>57620349
Many Germans wanted to stop the war after the Commies surrendered.
>>57620323
>russians took most of german partiton after 15 years
post the best xD
>>57620452
Russia > Polandball
>>57620364
>Royal Inheritance can't be transmitted through women.
That one rule was made of for the occasion though (there was no custom about it, since the capetian miracle previously ensured that all kings had sons to inherit the crown)
>>57620570
>Polandball as in Poland
mods, being underage is banable
>>57620570
I know you're that Russian faggot NEET.
Stop pretending you're not.
>>57620631
>>57620641
Butthurt Polandball detected
Russia is Germans greatest ally.
>>57616208
>Country full of bogs and forests with two meh-sized cities
>In a continent full of prosperous cities and fertile farms and places with natural resources
>>57620780
shut up reddit
>he fell for the "balkanize germany" meme
>>57620845
This triggers the Pole.
>>57620625
salic law wasn't made up senpai
>>57620328
Nope. The catholic kings did that. The assburgers and specially the first one destroyed the economy beyond reparation. I dont know how did they get so lucky and got our throne,when they were the fith in the succession line. Fucking scum.
>>57613511
This
>>57621234
All things said they still where better than the Bourbons. They crashed Spain with no survivors.
>>57620260
HEY! Put Nürnberg into Austria or France! I don't wanna be a dirty czech.
>>57618920
George III, but he was mentally ill and doesn't really count.
I'd say David Cameron because he's a lying piece of shot desu.
>>57621446
you won't be neither czech, austrian or french,you will be just one more german to fertilize soil
>>57620260
>Keulen for Köln/Cologne
Kek
>>57621446
The example of the traitor.
>>57621462
Soros plz
>>57621554
same with Berlin, why change an already slavic name?
>>57621550
>Implying I would fight on the german side, not on the french or the austrian one.
>Or even better - go to another country and only return after the war.
:-p
>>57621604
And proud of it.
I don't rightly know, we haven't fucked up THAT terribly yet. Slavery was a massive mistake though. We will pay for that forever or until a genocide occurs.
>>57621668
Hugenottic
>>57621670
Antifa raus! Du wirst als Erster am Baum aufgehängt.
>>57613501
I heard before that drang nach osten was always a goal of germans even pre unification
>>57621694
Literal every president after Kennedy was shit.
>>57621694
Dan Quayle was by far our worst VP.
>>57621777
Yeah, but only because they mostly just sit around and don't do shit. They don't have the power to fuck up hard.
>>57621668
XDDD
>>57622012
ale na tematycznych nie trolujemy xD
>>57621938
Right. I hope Trump wins.
>>57622012
KEK
>>57613283
Chuchill
>>57622084
>>57615923
Tojo takes the cake by a longshot.
What sid Hatoyama do wrong?
>>57621403
No, the habsburgs did worse than the Borbons,given their possibilities. For fucks sake,they dismantled one of the biggest manufacturing hubs in Europe,just because it was competing with Flanders.
>>57621726
>Antifa raus! Du wirst als Erster am Baum aufgehängt.
Wir werden sehen. :-)
>>57613511
holy shit that hair is fucking magnificent.
>>57622369
I like you.
>>57622380
Tut mir leid um die Leute uezs.
