>Vladimir Putin says the Panama Papers are part of a Western effort to weaken Russia
Russians and Putinbots will ACTUALLY DEFEND this lying psychopathic dictator. You have to be completely stupid to be a supporter of him, I don't know why there are so many of you on int
Because Russia is conservative and therefore can do no wrong according to /pol/. I bet if Putin started jailing his opposition and labelled them communists even if they weren't (and as far as I'm aware, Russia's opposition wants to be more like the west, not communist, although the communist party is still somewhat big), /pol/ would applaud him for fighting "corruption"...
>>57558088
half of the russians dont give a fuck and just want to improve their lives and live peacefully, the other half are payed online putinbots
>>57558088
dubs
>>57558166
dubs
>>57558300
dubs
holy shit my autism is fucking triggered
>>57558331
so close
czech em
>>57558331
you fucked up son
>>57558300
>just want to improve their lives
Hard for common folk to improve their lives when a group of oligarchs control a vast percentage of the country's wealth and would rather send it to a shady offshore tax-haven than reinvest it in their own economy.
>>57558088
>>57558382
i hate putin and his politics, especially since hes so butthurt against us for being EU members now, but the truth is that Putin is the lesser evil for Russia now and most of the people there see it this way.
Especially when they remember what i was comparatively with Yeltsin before him
He's right. His name appears nowhere in the leaks but his name is on the Western headlines.
Meanwhile Cameron actually had money in the keaks but no headlines or calls to resign.
>>57558437
Putin being a lesser evil is a myth perpetuated by Putin himself. You really think a country like Russia would be unable to function without one guy? They have most of the pieces in place, just make the "democratic" elections actual democratic elections.
>>57558088
Russian try to lie and cheat in everything they do. Even in sports they are too pussy/shit to even compete against other countries without pumping their athletes full of some doping shit.
>>57558088
>people on 4chan being contrarian
im shocked
>non-Anglos
>democracy
Pick one lads. Really you're just embarrassing yourselves and us by association when you end up with dictators-in-all-but-name like Putin
>>57558437
>hes so butthurt against us for being EU members
Really?
>>57558518
It won't help, democratic elections won't mean shit when the population is unable to protect their interests. For some reason Russians prefer to fuck each other over constantly instead of helping.
>>57558518
well, again, look at all Yeltsin did.
and maybe you are right, they dont really need him anymore, but they just went with all the "lesse evil" mindset for too long.
He did what was necessary for his first mandate, but now hes just another stealing oligarch/semi-dictator
>>57558627
>any country except Switzerland
>democracy
You are all embarassing. Learn some direct democracy you backwards XIX century countries
>>57558637
dude, i've seen so much propaganda in Russia against us since we joined the EU.
constant articles about us being "nazis", us hating russia(despite its historically pretty much the only nation that we ever had fond feelings of) and even recently, on 3th of March(our national holiday, the Liberation from the t*rks)there were fake news in Russia that we gonna invite FUCKING Erdogan to celebrate with us
>>57558723
>direct democracy
>>57558437
>especially since hes so butthurt against us for being EU members now,
kek, your media doing a good job as i see.
>>57558088
What was In Panama Papers anyway? Off-shores? For fucking what does he need them?
I still don't understand enough to make judgement.
>>57558723
>be switzerland
>pay $50 for a bottle of water
>>57558771
Why don't look yourself since you got internet connection, unlike many other brainwashed ruskies? Its not like it has shit about russia alone.
>>57558725
>constant articles about us being "nazis", us hating russia
>implying you didn't make Die Fahne Hoch your anthem after you joined the EU
>implying you didn't ban heterosexual marriages
>implying you don't enforce zoophily like the rest of the EU
>implying you aren't forcing jews into ghettos at the behest of your jewish EU overlords such as Angela Merkel-Rotschild and Cameron-Hitler
>implying you aren't forcing all boys to wear dresses
????????
>>57558793
>be Switzerland
>earn 50000000000$ dollars a month in average
>pay 1$ in taxes
>dont buy water because we get fresh clean water from all taps in Switzerland
>>57558812
>brainwashed ruskies
You seems brainwashed to me.
>>57558813
oy vey, he knows
>>57558858
Did I trigger you? Seems like I did.
>>57558840
fair enough, send me a visa in the mail pls
>>57558873
Will you marry me
>>57558918
Yes I will!
Here is a picture of me I hope you like it
It's suspicious that no Americans have been named so far.
>>57558872
Yes, you are. So what?
>>57558942
TOKOROA
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>>57558942
I sent you a visa totally not a concealed mine
Have fun
>>57558973
Delet this poopeeland!!!
>>57558986
Thank you gracious Swiss!
>>57558960
??
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/04/06/panama-papers-americans-with-past-financial-crimes/82704788/
Jackie Chan is american too isn't he?
>>57558960
A lot of these dodgy firms refuse to accept American customers because they don't want FBI/whatever breathing down their necks
>>57558960
Whatever the German news agency was called said "just wait until what's coming next" or something along those lines.
>>57558725
Honestly, didn't see anything of it from the federal media sources, at least. Looks like you are talking about some crappy documentaries or articles in yellow press.
>>57559056
No he's not
Russia was Somalia tier in the 90s. They're doing way better now.
>>57559114
They are still africa tier in everything compared to west
>>57558088
Jews keep on jewing,
as if they care about the goyim "nation"
>>57559125
Nope. Russia is a 2nd world country, and Putin is way better leader than Yeltsin.
>>57559058
And they have a good reason to fear this federal government gestapo agency.
>>57559111
Yes he is, he's more american than your average american.
>>57558088
there are a lot of under 21's on here they gravitate towards strong leaders to compensate for their own lack of confidence
>>57558812
>lel how brainwashed ruskies but im not cuz reading western press look at me mom
>>57558088
>USAID said they financed these effort and then denied connection with US government
ZunZuneo was an online social networking and microblogging service marketed to Cuban users. The service was created in 2010 by the United States Agency for International Development (USAID). The U.S. government covertly developed the service as a long-term strategy to encourage Cuban youths to revolt against the nation's government, fomenting a "Cuban Spring"—a reference to the Arab Spring revolutions. The initiative also appears to have had a surveillance dimension, allowing "a vast database about Cuban ZunZuneo subscribers, including gender, age, 'receptiveness' and 'political tendencies'" to be built. The word "zunzuneo" is Cuban slang for a hummingbird's call.[1]
Contractors funded by USAID "set up a byzantine system of front companies using a Cayman Islands bank account, and recruit[ed] unsuspecting executives who would not be told of the company's ties to the U.S. government," according to an Associated Press (AP) report which traced the origin of the service. ZunZuneo, dubbed the "Cuban Twitter", reached at least 40,000 Cuban subscribers but was retired in 2012 without notice.[2][3] According to AP the service was ended because of the expiration of the grant that funded the program.[4][5] While initially the service attracted subscribers by having discussions on topics such as sports, the plans were to introduce political messages to encourage dissent.[4]
The AP released an exposé on ZunZuneo in April 2014. Following the report, the U.S. government acknowledged that it funded the service but denied that it was a covert program.[4] According to a USAID spokesperson, the program was reviewed by the Government Accountability Office in 2013, and found to have been executed in accordance with U.S. law.[5] The United States Senate Committee on Foreign Relations requested documents about the program from USAID.[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZunZuneo
>I believe the western media, the same media that bashes trump and turns a blind eye to anything implicating anyone in power in the west ever
>>57559321
Another triggered slav cuck. And I thought they were supposed to be bants masters here.
>>57558437
>i hate
Your argument are invalid. You are some teen fag who dont even know that Putin was more for EU from Lisbon to Vladivostok than half of EU leaders.
>>57559454
t. Yukko "Kh4n'd1999" Chamberpottonen
>>57559326
Cuba would be fucking god tier if not for our embargo ;-;
>>57558088
Australian autism.
>>57558088
>lying
Proofs?
>>57559114
You mean we were doing better. "Better" times are in the past now and the only reason why they even happened is oil prices and nothing else. Without P*tin and his clan it could've been better, no doubt.
>>57559114
So was Red China. Every country except African and Asian shitholes is doing better than decades ago.
How did Russia grow? Hint: muh oil
>>57559987
nah, in what aspect better? Yes you could produce candies instead and then just some ISIS shits could torn you apart. These thing are more complicated than you think.
He's absolutely right though.
His and Assads faces were attached to every other headline involving this story, and the leak doesn't even mention him.
>>57560144
Dont really get what you're implying.
>>57558382
he actually reinvests but into projects of his friends,
this offshore was used as a buffer - he took cash from state into the chain of offshore firms and then put it into private projects of his mob
>>57558627
he is worse he literally is a mafioazo
>>57560209
then go read what geopolitics means
>>57560285
>bulgarian is trying to talk with me in an arrogant manner
top kek
any more advice?
>>57560406
>arrogant
How so? Do you know there is this term "balkanization"? Now guess where Im.
>>57558088
Assuming that Russians share a similar mentality to Serbs Putin acting this way actually gets him points for being a manly badass who knows how to play the game.
Especially when he "sticks it to the western degenerate faggots"
>>57560285
Anything more difficult than a smoothie recipe is too complicated for our opposition, sorry.
so nice to watch how foreigners argue about Russia
did you know what we can be imprisoned for picture with Mr. P?
>be russian
>country run by mafia
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>57558088
In my humble opinion, it happens because corruption wasn't created by government or someone else, corruption is in people's minds. Literally EVERYONE steals, a minister steals a billion roubles while a farmer steals a sack of potatoes, where's the difference between them? There's no difference. What will change if we put anyone from folk instead of Putin? Nothing. Anyone, who didn't agree with presence situation and didn't have a corruption mentality in their brains, just has left the country.
Ughh.... Proofs?
>>57560725
+15
>>57558088
>Panama Leaks were made available by the international consortium of investigative journalists and have almost no Americans in their lists
>Some of their funders, According to their own site: Recent ICIJ funders include: Adessium Foundation, Open Society Foundations, The Sigrid Rausing Trust, the Fritt Ord Foundation, the Pulitzer Center on Crisis Reporting, The Ford Foundation, The David and Lucile Packard Foundation, Pew Charitable Trusts and Waterloo Foundation.
>Open Society Foundation was made by Soros, plus other big heads like Ford Foundation, Carnegie Endowment, Rockefeller Family Fund, W K Kellogg Foundation
I hate Putin but the fag is right. Those papers were clearly edited before they were """""""""""released to the public """""""""""""""
>>57558088
> Vladimir Putin says
sage
>>57561310
Or >>57559058 is right.
>>57561315
>Petro Poroshenko says the Panama Papers are part of the Kremlin's propaganda to weaken Ukraine
>Ukrainians and nazibots will ACTUALLY DEFEND this lying psychopathic dictator. You have to be completely stupid to be a supporter of him, I don't know why there are so many of you on int
Fixed for you.
>>57561484
> supporting Poroshenko
It's like supporting Yanukovich, just pro-western.
>>57561553
Praise Obama.
>>57558088
He is somewhat (not fully) right because:
* They didn't shared the whole database, not even 1%, they only selected whatever they wanted.
* They party that shared the papers was funded by US government and rich American people.
So why not share the whole database?
>>57563021
t. kremlinbot
>>57558088
Is there a single government that isn't corrupt? Some are just better at hiding it than others. To realize who leaked the information you just have to look at who wasn't named.
>>57561310
???
The Panama Papers weren't released to the public. Nobody ever claimed they were released to the public.
And you realize a whole bunch of journalists went over the papers? Your conspiracy theory seems extremely unlikely simply because you'd have to keep every single journalist that works on the papers quiet.
>>57558088
>Putin says panama papers are a western effort to weaken Russia
>Putin says bombing Isis in Syria are a western effort to weaken Russia
>Putin says US reactions to Ukraine invasion are a western effort to weaken Russia
>Putin says Americans waking up in the morning is a western effort to weaken Russia
Holy shit does this dude do anything besides blaming the west or what.
>I don't know why there are so many of you on int
most of Putin "supporters" on /int/ are non-russians who like him as a meme, same as King Jonn Il and Un
it's only funny if you actually don't live where they are actually presidents
>>57558088
Lol you realize it was released by USAID and notorious anti-white NWO kike Soros?
Now, I don't think everything Putin does is perfect, but I do believe he genuinely works for what is in Russia's best interest at all times, a rare quality in a time where most leaders are actively hostile to their own populations.
>>57558166
Some of us do not believe there is anything wrong with authoritarianism nor the subjugation of (((subversive elements))).
>>57558456
>Meanwhile Cameron actually had money in the keaks but no headlines
Wtf are you talking about it's right on the front page of the bbc.
>>57564457
Gee, it's not like the vast majority of mainstream western media outlets are owned by actors with a vested interest in defaming nationalist elements, are they?
>>57565130
It's kind of hard to give you a good reply if all you post is some vague implication.
But please, go ahead, explain your conspiracy theory.
ITS EVERY GOYIM FOR HIMSELF!!
KEEP YO HANDS OFF MUH MONEY!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nra-dGO-_e8&nohtml5=False
>>57565630
The "panama papers" looks like some bullshit smoke screen to cover up something else that going on.
Only time will tell though
>>57558088
Source?
Also, no where is Putin personallh connected to these allegations.
Finally, none of this is illegal. What's the fucking point?
>>57558088
wow relax are you ukrainian or something? who gives a fuck about putin
>>57558627
>implying democracy is something good
>>57565892
>who gives a fuck about the most powerful man in the world
uhh.... everyone should?
>>57566501
why?
>>57566462
Yeah non-democracy worked out so well for you back home in Syria
>>57566534
Are you being intentionally obtuse
>>57566587
is putin invading australia or something
I really don't get what is your issue
>>57565844
Smoke and mirrors to give more bad rep for "bad guys" through MSM, Russia included.
>>57566501
>most powerful man in the world
And by powerful, you mean, in charge of a country with a collapsing economy, ill-equipped armed forces with no battle experience and basically no international allies to rush to their aid.
>>57566958
He has more control over his country than any other leader of a major country. Also Russia is still powerful militarily and do have allies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes_list_of_The_World%27s_Most_Powerful_People
>>57558456
It is literally never off the news in this country friend. Just saw it on BBC news on national television at 1pm.
>>57566958
>i have no idea what i am saying
>>57567283
>He has more control over his country than any other leader of a major country.
If I have absolute control over flys, it may make me a powerful leader as I have absolute control, but they are still only flys.
Same thing about Russia can be said about Best Korea. King John un is the complete leader of his country and has complete control of literally everyone in it, but it doesnt change the fact that its still a shithole and can barely feed its people.
>>57568010
Russia is more powerful than you seem to want to admit, and far more powerful than NK. Only America is ahead of them in the military strength index
>>57558088
>0 Americans in papers
>not American inside work
Ok lmao
It's so obviously that usa did this
>>57567583
>collapsing economy
Nice negative GDP and 15% inflation rate there Ivan. How's the oil selling right now?
>ill-eqipped armed forces
I seen that picture of those Russian marines during a training exercise, better hope your ships are better armed than them or else you're gonna have a bad time invading Iceland.
>no battle experience
US soldiers have been shooting up sandniggers for the past 20 years, getting that exp and bombing more in Syria. You guys finally decided to get some target practice on some unarmed living targets in Ukraine. Not to mention getting involved in Syria for all 30 seconds before you backed off to Russian.
>no allies
Well your biggest ally, China, now no longer gives a shit. If they did, why didn't they react to the US led sanctions against you?
>>57568167
>Russia is more powerful than you seem to want to admit
You mean like how Russia sent their flagship of the Pacific fleet right outside our waters as a show of strength during the G20, but arrived about half a week late and turned around and went home. Yeah. Real powerful.
>America is ahead of them in the military strength index
You're damn right they are. And its a nice big gap in between. And if a country is higher in the military strength index, surely that means the leader of that country has more power, no?
>>57568717
No, Obama has to jump through all kinds of hurdles to get shit done that Putin does not. America is definitely more powerful than Russia by far but Obama has much less control than Putin.
For example, if Putin or Obama wanted to nuke Raqqa, who do you think would be more likely to be able to do it?
>>57568167
>military strength index
The Royal Navy could fuck their shit up at sea.
Russias military is not first rate.
And economic or soft power are more important these days.
Russias economy is just slightly larger than the state of Florida.
The Russian Ruble is worth .015 dollars.
>>57568564
>thinks Russia is killing russian civilians in eastern Ukraine
>doesn't remember the chechen wars
>thinks China is the only country Russia has good relatios with
We've got some expert over here
>>57564457
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/04/selected-leak-of-the-panamapapers-creates-huge-blackmail-potential.html
Knowledge is power.
i wanna get laid so bad :__:
>>57568889
>if Putin or Obama wanted to nuke Raqqa, who do you think would be more likely to be able to do it?
Neither. Putin looks for reasons to react militarily, but rarely does. And Obama looks for reasons to not react militarily but always does.
>>57569574
I never said they were killing ONLY civilians. But the bulk of it thus far has been.
>Chechen war
Russia had 80k soldier fighting for 2 years. The US has a total of 192k over 9 years. See where I'm going with this.
>>57558088
honestly if I was Russian I'd vote for Putin aswell, Russia already had democracy during Yeltsin times and it didn't go well, I think if they tried demoracy again it would end up the same
Wew, I'm nearly crying from laughter, thanks.
>>57569781
>Something happens
>Somebody indirectly profits from it
>Therefore that somebody must have caused the event to happen
Am I getting this right?
Again: For your stupid conspiracy to work every journalist working on the papers would have to be in on it. Otherwise they would just blow the whistle. The U.S would have to be in complete control of all the media organisations involved and every single journalist working on the subject. It's completely unrealistic.
>>57569984
same
>>57558840
I still earn more than you, I guarantee it. I don't think you can beat a 1%er from California.
>>57558088
Not sure if it's specially aimed at Putin, but it's kinda funny that you don't find any North Americans in all the shit that has leaked so far.
>mfw America has come out completely clean in all this
>>57564968
Oh, Soros' behind this? Fucking hell.
Based Putin.
Well who cares? Yes we know our government is corrupted now what? Should we support new sanctions? No, thanks, I'm not suicidal cunt which enjoys poverty.
>>57568167
Oh vey, if a war benefited Russia and Russia was "powerful" then Russia would already invade all those 1st world countries and steal their prosperity, but it's not. Literally McCarthy-tier fairy tailes.
>>57569984
>>57573796
I'm grill btw
expected a polish flag desu senpai
>>57575221
why would anyone sanction you for your internal corruption? that's your business, naive westerners just find it bizarre you dgaf at all about any of this for your own sake
>>57575018
>absence of evidence is evidence of absence
You have to take into account bilateral relations, legal agreements, extradition treaties, proceeds of crime and money laundering laws, etc. when setting up something like this.
American tax havens are already well documented, this was just from a tax haven Americans don't use. It'd be no good going to all the effort and legal expense to set something up, then have it seized or forfeited.
>>57575639
>for your own sake
So they get rid of Putin because he's corrupt. Then what? Jesus Christ descends and takes over? Stability has always been paramount for Russia, people here don't understand collectivism.
>>57558088
What's Panama papers?
Russians don't mind the politics, you know. Most People give shits about Poo actually.
