what universities does /int/ consider top tier
you already made this thread
Fuck yeah I did
the university of life, homie
Harvard Stanford MIT Caltech. that's it. maybe Oxbridge for yuropoors and thirdworlders
college of heartbreak ridge
>>57405417
>He goes to a public school
>>57405559
Harvard is shittier and for kennedys
>>57405509
t. divorced facebook mum
>>57405509
>yurofag
>Eastern yurofag
>saying homie
>>57405725
ugh bruv...
>>57405417
that one
are you there now anon
>>57406261
yeah
>>57405417
I feel so bad about not going to college. I'm about to turn 21 but I don't know if it's too late to start as a freshman.
>>57406310
b-be my friend :3
>>57406317
It's never too late
>higher education
Bunch of kikes, everything Ive learned was in the streets
>>57406338
>>57406310
Bunch of fags desu
>>57405417
>tfw finals but not ready
>>57406433
Oh shit nigger check that >33
>>57405581
>the UC system is comprised of public schools
>>57406433
shut the fr*ck up or i'll suck your dick off
Lol.
Stanford > Cal.
>>57407565
>living in palo alto voluntarily
>>57405417
>Cal
I went to UCLA because I wanted to avoid SJWs.
Was I justified, OP?
>>57405417
ucsb and upenn
>>57407884
lol one of those schools is way better than the other
>>57407862
I'm not OP, but Berkeley is clearly a better school on most academic fronts. I doubt that "avoiding SJWs" was worth it.
>>57407992
Yeah, and I hate it here anyway :(
fml
>>57407862
Not OP but only a few people fit that stereotype. Most people don't give a shit. There are a ton of homeless people and UCLA has more attractive girls.
>>57405417
MIT, Caltech, and Stanford. Everything else is pretty much shit tier degree mills.
>>57405417
I respect anybody who went to an Ivy honestly. Even if you're getting in via legacy or affirmative action you've got to do a massive amount of work and earn excellent grades. The quality of education at those schools is impressive
I would say Georgetown, Johns Hopkins, William & Mary, and UVA are the best schools in the area where I grew up
>>57407862
Also not OP but no. You seriously fucked up.
>>57408068
It'll be fine. Just give it a year or so. I don't know about your specific situation, but I had a hard time moving away from home for college as well. It's really an entirely different environment, and kind of a shock to the system. But after you do it once or twice it gets much easier and you adjust much better.
>>57408198
I don't think he seriously fucked up, though I do think he made a mistake. UCLA's not that much better. I just don't know why you'd avoid a school just to avoid being exposed to a viewpoint you don't like.
>>57408194
>Ivy league
>hard to earn good grades
Kek. The average grade at Harvard is an A-.
>>57405417
I went to Cal, graduated in 2015. The place is imploding from the inside out.
All the attention of course gets pointed at the retarded SJWs running the place, but that's not even half the problem.
If we didn't have a fucking retarded chancellor and garbage athletics program that thinks spending half a billion dollars on a stadium and athlete-only training centers is a good idea, then maybe our school wouldn't be completely in the shitter.
My last straw was hearing that they were going to potentially disband the college of chemistry, probably the most prestigious institution within the university, just for the sake of a minor cost cutting measure.
Fuck those assholes, they aren't getting a dime of donations from me until they stop dumping all the money they're given into a pit.
>>57408271
Not the safest campus as well, a factor since I went at 16. Also LA is closer to home but I don't have friends so it doesn't really matter.
>>57408424
>>57408271
I avoided it not because I didn't like the viewpoint but it seemed practically institutionalized by the administration. Not going to pretend UCLA is great in this regard but the Chancellor did tell the ASU to fuck off when they demanded the same thing they got at Berkeley.
>>57407862
UCLA is just as saturated with SJWs as Cal. There's no avoiding them anywhere in the UC system excluding shit schools like merced.
Also, Berkeley is a way more chill and livable area than Westwood. UCLA is all pavement and high rises, where Berkeley actually has character.
>>57408463
>ASU to fuck off when they demanded the same thing they got at Berkeley.
explain
>>57408492
I wish there were more high rises around Berkeley. Housing is expensive as fuck here.
>>57407565
>stanford
>>57408463
Oh, that's interesting. I don't follow university politics that much, to be fair. But anyways, I don't think the quality difference is enough to worry or second-guess yourself about.
>>57408585
It's ridiculously expensive but just as bad as UCLA.
It definitely has skyrocketed in the bay area in the past few years though. I was paying only $920 a month for my studio apartment right across the street from campus thanks to rent control from 2013-2015. When I moved out they were renting it for $1350 a month, and I checked recently and they were renting units for $1500. The market is just out of control.
>>57408607
What university do you attend? Did it create the internet?
I'm very serious, I want to compare the two
>>57408673
Yeah, whoever is in charge of zoning laws around here needs to figure some shit out. I appreciate that I guess we don't want buildings higher than three stories or whatever, but something's gotta give.
>>57408683
I actually went to the bar where they tested the internet for the first time, the Alpine Inn. Pretty cool bar. Check it out if you're ever in the area.
>>57408683
>a multi-institutional exercise from decades ago is relevant to modern education
I'll tell you now that I lived in California for a long time, so I'm very well acquainted with the fact that Stanford is a degree mill.
>>57407565
>Stanfurd
enjoy living in suburban shithole and eating taco bell every time you leave campus
not only that but literally everything important is ranked lower or equal at stanford, including computer science, physics, math, chemistry, economics, law
its honestly not that much of a better school unless you want to be coddled like a little baby for undergrad and be called into your 3 advisors offices every time you get a C-
oh wait stanford doesnt give C- , they give :('s for grades below a B
>>57408683
UCLA
>>57408837
oh hey man are you that ee guy that lives in dykstra?
>>57408837
Enjoy living in your $3000 a month apartment with hobos camping out the entrance.
>>57408863
>tfw in a nice dorm
>>57408879
How much are mommy and daddy paying for that dorm?
>>57405725
> 2016
> claim exclusive rights on some black shit
>>57408863
I kind of miss hobos. We don't have them where I live now.
>>57408890
I don't know but I don't really care.
>>57408837
Yeah, stanford's campus is fucking awful.
Boring, crowded and sterile as hell.
I felt like I was at the disney world of college campuses.
And there's nothing around it multi million dollar homes and froufrou shops for bored housewives
Such a shitty, manufactured school
>>57408683
>A
>FUCKING
>TREE
>>57408933
>>57408932
>>57408890
>>57408879
>>57408863
>>57408837
Holy shit is this a Stanford-Cal-UCLA flamewar?
>>57408932
Because crazy hobos give life and character to a campus right?
>>57408837
Palo Alto is kind of a suburban shithole. I will say that Stanford's law program is significantly better on every level compared to Berkeley, even though the difference in USNWR isn't that big.
>>57408948
I'm chill with UCLA but stanford just needs to fuck off
>an entire thread filled with california college students flinging shit at each other
>>57408978
Arizonafag detected
>>57408948
I couldn't care less. Divide and Conquer
t. USC student
Daily reminder you can't spell "suck" without USC
UCSD here.
Less SJW, just as much or more Asian girls.
Y'all keep arguing. I'll sit right here.
>>57408948
no one here is going to fucking stanford, fucking kek. even cal is a stretch
>>57405417
Uni Paderborn
>>57409041
I go to Cal and I can tell you it is unilaterally shit.
>>57409035
lol UCSD is basically Stanford without the money
shitty campus shitty programs
So glad I'm not there.
>>57409041
Acceptance rates for Cal and UCLA are within a few percent so it's not unreasonable to assume there are at least a few Cal guys here if we believe the UCLAfags. Stanford's not a huge stretch either considering the technologically-minded student body.
>>57409041
I go to Stanford, and I like it fine, though I'm not ecstatic about the surroundings, as everyone has been so kind to point out. I also posted >>57409038, but in reality I think that kind of behavior is incredibly obnoxious.
>>57409091
Yes. Please. Stay up north. We don't want you here, anyhow.
>>57408863
>hobos
ok fine i admit this is the one of the worst problems at berkeley, all the FUCKING SHIT hobos
they unironically act fucking entitled to my food and money, this might be the only place where hobos do shit like this
one time i was walking next to some hobo near asian ghetto and he said "AYO MAN YOU GOT ANY BILLS FOR ME BROTHA" and i said "n-no sorry..." naturally
then he got upset and said "HEY MAN I NEED CASH I KNOW YOU GOT SOMMA THAT SHIT IN THAT WALLET" and i ran away and cried
this other time this fat white lady said "pleeaase give me some of that pizza young man just your crust please" and she FUCKING TOUCHED IT
so i just ran away and cried and threw it out
but i like pretty much everything else here tho
>>57409062
>t. L&S """student"""
>>57405509
Bulgarians get it.
>>57409035
this is honestly the only positive post I have ever seen about UCSD on 4chan. it seems that nobody that goes there is happy about it
>>57409062
well according to shanghai's rankings, you're going to the 4th best university in the entire
US.
>>57409104
timestamp ID or gtfo
>>57409126
Engineering student actually. But what college you study in doesn't change the fact that rent is stupidly expensive, hobos fuck everything up, and the entire fucking system is about to go under soon with budget cuts and overcrowding.
>>57405417
I would love to get into IT University of Copenhagen
>>57409139
Yeah there are fuckloads of /r9k/ posters at UCSD. It's hilarious.
>>57409145
>rankings matter for undergrad
Realistically you're going to get a fairly similar education from Stanford, UCLA, and Berkeley, though Cal's probably the hardest. The caliber of the students going in and the amount of funding the departments get are the only real difference.
>>57409139
What.
Wonderful campus. Decent community. Very little SJW bullshit, that stuff mostly goes on at little brother state. Great city. Not a degre mill.
Lots of Neets go here, but I don't pay attention to them. Maybe more neets here than elsewhere, but this works out better for me.
>>57409177
Fuck off, we're arguing about California schools.
Btw, any Caltech students here? Your school sucks and so do you.
>>57409213
>Wonderful campus.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
>Very little SJW bullshit
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>57409218
Don't be such a rude anon.
>>57409145
Alright lad, here you go. Sorry I had to black out so much stuff.
>>57409250
La Jolla is tough. I mean, why there when you can walk a block and be in gangland, or walk off campus and be pissed on by a hobo.
Be jeli
>paying 65,000 dollars a year to attend a "college" that Jamal is paid to attend
Americans
I studied in Vienna which was excellent as I got to fuck Turkish girls for four years and develop a race fetish. I did my year abroad in Leeds, which was good fun despite living with some of the strangest people in the world.
Finally I did my graduate degree at Oriel College, Oxford and since then have done large amounts of very little for huge financial reward. Even better, I got through university without being shot, having to share a bedroom, attending a stupid made up "sport", being a quarter of a million dollars in debt, having mandatory classes on black people or getting graded with letters like a 5 year old.
>>57409279
>Westwood
>hobos
>gangland
>>57409271
enjoy your student debt :^) I'm here for FREEEEEEEEEEEE
>>57409271
spoiled little rich kid piece of shit. i hate you with every fiber of my being
>>57409282
>going to college to fuck girls
Enjoy your minimum wage job.
>>57409298
come on anon, don't be sour grapes about it, your school is probably better
Unless it's UCSD HAHAHAHAA
>>57409298
How rude. I'm actually pretty poor, so I get the maximum financial aid here, >>57409297. :^)
>>57409298
>jealousy
such a poor character trait
>>57409271
>internet explorer
>botnet
>>57409357
Sorry for triggering you. That just comes with the Windows installation, and I haven't bothered to unpin it from the bar. ID blocks the Chrome icon.
>this thread
>tfw you'll never be a rich american kid attending at some top university
>>57409376
Oh, it doesn't even block the Chrome icon. FFS.
>>57409330
don't think you fully understand how much weight a stanford degree carries. that kid is pretty much set for life. he can get into any grad program or hry hired by any firm throughout the entire globe, not just the US
>>57409425
I'm actually here for grad school and better internet for maximum shitposting.
>>57409311
I''ve never had an hourly wage in my life. My father gave me a certain amount per month at university and after I finished I did some bullshit (I knew it to be such because most of the 'experts' had been through U.S. MBA programs) for Hilti.
Now I run the family business which is basically me delegating everything of importance to someone else and going on holiday a lot.
I'm really not that much smarter than your average graduate but thankfully I didnt go anywhere near the American system.
>>57409448
where did you go for undergrad?
>>57405417
A Degree in Pain from the School of Hard Knocks
>>57409469
>literally babbied through life by his parents
Congratulations
>>57409425
good for him.
>>57409469
>My father gave me a certain amount per month at university
You mean an allowance? Lol
>>57409476
I just went to a (non-CA) state school on a scholarship.
>>57409391
>tfw Californian
>stuck in a shitty CSU while these guys brag about how much UCSD "sucks"
>poor as fuck too
>You will never be a rich asshole who sat American SATs and goes to an Ivy League school.
>>57409425
Things I did with my Oxford MSc:
>nail it to the wall so people could see it
>decided that to be tacky so I put it in a drawer
>stopped all contact with the university
In the real world no one cares. Sure, you might get hired over the next dick to do some "graduate scheme" but those are scams anyway. You can have all the degrees you want, if your face doesn't fit you aren't getting in to do anything important.
>>57409035
>UCSD
>>57409035
I'm a PhD student at UCSD. I went to Purdue and there were a ton of foreign Asians.
at UCSD is just ABCs everywhere. I'm not too keen on it personally, but if you have yellow fever there is a gem or two here.
social life must suck tho, it's better if you're over 21.
>>57409091
>lol UCSD is basically Stanford without the money
Maybe in compsci, but in biomedical research UCSD gets more NIH funding. I'm a 3rd year student already on a Nature paper, another in review. Published a 1st author paper in a Cell press journal last month (impact factor 12)
UCSD is pretty good in certain fields. My PhD program ranks higher than Stanford.
>pic related: machine learning I'm doing on copy number variation genotyping of whole genome sequence data
>>57409539
>if your face doesn't fit
>tfw ugly
>>57409521
There's no shame in going to a CSU and you shouldn't feel bad about it. I'm mostly joking about UCSD.
USC on the other hand...
>>57409505
Yeah. I didn't have it when I was abroad but it allowed me to live well in Vienna.
Or is working retail somehow better?
I go to UCLA
lots of international kids here
>>57409565
I almost went to UCLA. UCSD offered me more money and cost of living is cheaper. Also the PhD program at UCSD is ranked higher.
>>57409581
Are you the second-year EE guy in Dykstra or first-year chemistry guy in Hedrick?
>>57409585
You made the right decision, my friend.
>>57409594
neither, I'm a 4th yr math major living on Landfair
>>57409391
These are probably spoiled Indian/Asian kids.
I had to go to a boring ass school in corn fields to make it out to California.
Do graduate school in california. I know a lot of Brazilians at UCSD/Salk
>>57409609
You know Konstantin?
What's the point of going to mediocre US schools for undergrad as a foreigner from a first world country unless you fuck interesting women
"OMG ARE YOU REALLY FROM XXXXX? IS IT TRUE THEY STILL XXXXX IN THEIR OOOOOs??? WHATEVURRRRRRR
I just finished TAing a class at UCSD filled with premed assholes. Want to read some of the student satisfaction survey responses?
>>57409634
Yes.
>>57409634
As a premed asshole, yes. I'm going to take a guess and say that they're mad at you for not spoonfeeding them the material.
>>57409625
the grad student?
>>57409671
Nope. You know Jean-Michel?
>>57409425
>don't think you fully understand how much weight a stanford degree carries.
i dont think you understand that the university you went to doesnt matter nearly as much as you think it does compared to your achievement and intelligence. for most fields, it matters exactly none compared to your accomplishments, and admission is not an accomplishment. perhaps in law and business there's a certain amount of nepotism but that involves rich people hiring their children and friends. perhaps a stanford degree can get your resume a second glance but if it says nothing else you are fucked
>>57409391
I've met Brazilians, Colombians, and Peruvians here at berkeley
there's actually a lot of Brazilians
study hard and go here for grad school
also most people that go here arent rich desu
most people get some form of scholarship i think, only rich kids pay the full 65k or whatever
>>57409651
DING DING DING...
Here's the bad ones first:
> • He can be brash in his student interactions. His communication style makes him seem frustrated with students, rather than genuinely interested in mediating possible miscommunications.
> • He talks too fast. It's very hard to take notes.
> • Is sometimes condescending, and belittles students.
>• Sometimes he moved a little too quickly.
>• talks too fast, especially at review session when we had an hour left over. was unnecessary to use coding program which took 5 minutes to set up.
>• When presenting at the review session, he went way to quickly and everyone in the lecture hall had trouble keeping up with what he was saying. When asked if he could slow down, he refused. Did not seem like he had enthusiasm for teaching the subject or patience to explain things thoroughly.
--they thought we booked the room longer than we did??? we were running late. assholes
>• would ask for students to ask TAs questions and then would tell them to find answers themselves.
--This student did not know what microtubules were or exons or basic biology. This class has prereqs.
>told a girl he would not slow down in review very rudely and then sped through his material to finish early so he could leave.
--same confusion
>did not discuss material in a broad context, but rather narrowed it to his interests.
turned away from me in the middle of talking to him to say he needed to listen to some other conversation he wasn't a part of to get rid of me.
>doesn't admit when he is wrong.
That's not true I always admit when I'm wrong.
>>57409694
yeah I do, last name starts w/ a M right? i dont know him personally
>>57409647
>>57409651
Good ones. These students were smart.
>• Awesome IA. Knew his stuff. Tried to engage the class as much as he could.
>• Clearly works pretty hard to help clarify difficult concepts and points students toward appropriate resources that can facilitate further learning. He likes the material and is effective in talking about it.
>• Enthusiasm and friendliness
>• he made good powerpoints
>• He seemed to really understand the course material.
>• He's really smart, but goes too fast
>• unintentionally funny
>• Very knowledgeable and good at explaining.
>• very organized and knowledgeable and speaks clearly
>• Very prepared for class and really explained the papers well.
>• Very thorough with the material and explains very well to students
Had a couple of kids shake my hand at the end of the final.. .Ok thanks lol
>>57409701
>i dont think you understand that the university you went to doesnt matter nearly as much as you think it does compared to your achievement and intelligence. for most fields, it matters exactly none compared to your accomplishments, and admission is not an accomplishment
obviously this is well understood. i'm talking about getting that initial foot in the door. don't even pretend school name recognition doesn't play a factor
>>57409729
Yeah, plays cello. Really really really nice guy
Any med school or engineer school here.I was one of 100 that got into my E&Ce school. It's still third world compared to foreign universities, but at least you get to brag to people for being the 1% and look down to pretty much any university student for being way smarter than them.
>>57409768
>>• unintentionally funny
polite way of saying you're aspergers as fuck
>>57409778
yeah we're deffo thinking of the same guy
what yr are you? pretty excited to graduate after this quarter, already got into grad school elsewhere so I'm just relaxing a bit
>>57409728
>>57409768
proof
>>57409728
bahahahahaha this sounds exactly like whiny people with the chem series here
>>57409778
Not so bright, though. Couldn't go to a top tier school. Had to settle for chaff.
>>57409814
I'm a graduate student we all are a little bit.
I do study the genetics of autism too. I found a gene may be linked to aspergers. Kid has an IQ of 140
www.genecards.org/cgi-bin/carddisp.pl?gene=TESC
>>57409816
2nd year
>>57409826
I thought our math program was decent? As far as I know he went to Berkeley beforehand
>>57409821
i remember the turned away girl.
>I have office hours
>You never show up
>I cannot devote 30 minutes to you the night before the final
AND IN THE END THE PI CURVED EVERYONE TO A B OR A SO WTF
>>57409860
yeah I'm not sure what that guy is talking about, we're a top 10 school in math (probably one of the top mathematicians in the world, Terry Tao, is here for one)
>>57407741
>not wanting to live in palo alto
It's pretty nice there desu good ice cream
>>57409817
Where's the disagree meight
>>57409884
Best at the end
15. Do you have any other comments to add to your evaluation?
Please provide any additional constructive comments
>• Awesome IA
>• Great TA. Makes class material seem easier
>• overall, despite being knowledgeable, he was not very friendly or helpful as a TA. I felt demeaned and belittled and saw him do the same to other students as well.
>• Thanks for being a great TA Xxxxxx!
>>57409920
>I felt demeaned and belittled and saw him do the same to other students as well.
hahahahahahahahahaha
>>57409936
that's american uni students for you
>>57409936
Honestly some students are dumb as fuck. They deserved to be laughed at
Best test response
>Question: Why is disease different in identical twin girls
>Answer: Gene is on X chromosome. Random X inactivation makes different distribution of normal vs. disease
>Best Wrong Answer: "Two different sperms fertilize the same egg"
allofmywat.jpg
>>57409920
i once had this really autistic TA who would like explode on people and he was legitimately being mean to people, called a kid a fucking idiot and would just go fucking nuts, he was removed mid semester
>>57409980
holy shit ahahahaha
>>57409990
Hahahahahahahaha
I'm not that autistic
I got a free day pass for one Stanford's gyms.
>everything had a dark red trim that made
everything look not even a day old
>everyone was wearing some expensive workout gear with the school logo
>fucking treadmills have built in TV with cable and internet and a ton of other shit
>chrome fucking dumbbells
>a fucking rockclimbing wall
>a fucking pool with an actual lifeguard on duty
>a fucking water fountain that dispenses pure cold water and that you dont have to kiss
>fucking bathrooms that smell like fresh cookies
>a fucking view of the school's tower
>fucking college girls that are 12/10s
>a huge fucking sauna and showers
I have never felt more pleb in my life, with my white t shirt, 40 dollar running shoes, and basketball shorts.
Stay in school, friends.
>>57410037
that's why it's like $60,000 a year to go to
>>57407862
lol ucla will just as many sjws.
>>57410061
hey at least it's not U$C
>>57407862
UCLA has some SJWism but it's really avoidable
In fact most of the shit you see on /pol/ about SJWs invading universities you never really see when you're actually there, you really have to seek that kind of stuff out
>>57410077
UCB>USC>UCM>UCLA
>>57410114
they all have their field trip days
>>57410130
>paying $51,000 in just tuition to go to school every year
>>57410130
UCB>UCLA>UCM>CSU Stanislaus>USC
>>57410061
>>57410151
why the fuck do you idiots keep on saying this? something like 80% of students recieve financial aid, you guys do realize that right?
>tfw go to Brainlet State School #10930798
>>57410203
Enjoy your slightly less than $200000 debt.
I guess the best uni here is either uni melbourne which has the 8th best law degree in the world or ANU which is ranked number one in Australia for research or something. Generally our universities are okay but some of them have really lowered standards to pad the numbers and get as many students enrolled as possible.
>>57409575
>Or is working retail somehow better?
yea it is. no american is impressed by how spoiled you are by daddy and mommy
>>57410203
where does the financial aid money come from?
I'm interested.
Fucking first worlders complaining about your unis
You fucking cunts have no idea whats bad education
You know that little spoiled kid that cries about anything? Thats you
I'd do anything to be in the average ameridumb university #5371-4. Im in the best of my state, still shit for your standards though
>>57410287
People who pay the full tuition. It is another form of socialism.
>>57410287
It's just a fancy way of saying "IOU"
>>57410287
The ivy leagues can afford it from endowments and donations from alumni.
>>57410313
haha mad brainlet monkey
>>57410313
>>57410287
Universities here have large endowments that generate funds. Stanford, for example, has like $21B. People also often donate money specifically for scholarships.
>>57410287
Also, to be fair, it's not like a university actually pays anything for financial aid--they just don't charge you. Their marginal cost of letting in another guy is pretty small, though of course they may be losing a paying student.
>>57410227
thought aussie unis were fleecing mills for chinks who want that western degree
i like how people will complain about professor wages
"wow that professor makes $200,000 a year, what a ripoff!"
if you look at the data, wages for professors as well as the general number of them has not changed that much since when tuition was more reasonable (there are more adjuncts but they don't make much)
the biggest ballooning cost at universities has been in administrative staff, that has SKYROCKETED over the last 20-30 years (counselors and other staff)
for comparison's sake, Aarhus University in Denmark has a roughly similar student population to that of UCLA (slightly bigger at Aarhus). Aarhus University has an administrative staff size of 11,500; UCLA has 26,139 administrative staff.
>>57410399
So i guess they have to take in their percentage of rich paying kids.
Do you have to be a good scholar to get in or is it enough to be able to pay the full tuition?
We did have couple older undergrads going to Chicago and Stanford though.
>>57410480
you have to be a good scholar for the ones we're talking about
there are a ton of small private liberal arts schools that charge like $60,000 and it's more if you're able to pay you can get in (some get financial aid obviously)
>>57410414
Some of them are, we have English "schools" that are basically visa factories and if you study finance at any university its going to be almost all Asian but the actual degrees are okay.
They are trying to integrate the international students more as well since they just clump up into their own groups and never properly learn English. I don't care since they generally don't shit up arts/law with poor communication skills and they pay twice what an Australian would pay.
>>57410472
Your mom has 11500 tastebuds on my dick.
>>57410472
I'd say housing is what makes college more expensive tbqh
>>57410480
You always need to have good grades/whatever test you needed to take for your program. All universities say they do "need-blind" admissions. That is, they say that they don't take into account whether you can pay or not. But I would be stunned if they don't at least look at your parents'/relatives' ability to donate to the school.
I also don't think that they struggle to find paying kids. The rich tend to go to the right prep schools, get the best tutors, the most parental assistance, etc., so they're the ones who get in anyways.
>>57410561
tuition here is on an order of magnitude higher than in Europe
you pay for tuition and room and board separately
>>57410472
>>57410561
I watched a documentary called the ivory tower and it said it was a combination of administration and the race to give the best "College experience" with great living facilities and so on that ballooned the cost without actually increasing the value of a degree.
>>57410472
>that professor makes $200,000
wtf I love USA now.
>want to study software engineering at UW
>they don't offer any kind of scholarship for international students
life is not fair
>>57410589
it's also to some degree related to the fact that the US population has grown like 40% in the last 4-5 decades and the amount of people attending universities has skyrocketed
generally when people think of what schools are driving debt they think of Harvard, USC, etc. that have these insane prices but most students who attend those schools get significant aid and get good jobs so they don't have issues. the problem lies with certain private schools that are really expensive and don't prepare you for anything as well as (this is a big one) lots of kids who go to school for one or two years, take on some debt, and then drop out. the latter is a major problem because they pay a decent amount of money for some college but then don't do anything with it
>>57410610
Terry Tao makes over $500,000 counting the cash value of his benefits
http://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/2014/university-of-california/terence-chi-shen-tao/
>>57409920
Honestly you sound like a cunt. There's no way you're nice or helpful. Where there's smoke, there's fire.
>>57410754
yeah I was thinking that too, he sounds like an autistic asshole
>>57410742
btw are there sites like this in Australia, Germany, etc.? are you able to look up the pay of every government employee by name?
I've got a test on the european union coming up which you can't study for, they just grab random information and expect me to know that shit. It's cruel, but if normies can pull it off then surely so can I.
>>57410813
http://www.beamtenbesoldung.org/images/pdf/besoldungstabelle-2015.pdf
if you know what kind of job someone has, you can look here how much he makes.
>>57410887
cool, thanks
>>57410472
>"wow that professor makes $200,000 a year, what a ripoff!"
Usually a lot of the salary comes from grants the professor earns. That's TAX PAYER money
>>57410472
They're overpriced because teaching at university level is a flawed concept to begin with, these aren't your typical adults teaching children a crash course in history but rather experts in their field that quite frankly have better shit to do. Money is the only real allure.
>>57410993
>>57410994
yeah most of the salary comes from research
that's why for undergrad UC schools and the like that are research focused are not always the best, professors are often there to focus on research and don't give a shit about teaching so the quality sucks
>>57410754
>>57410789
Personally I only TA for one quarter. I do research not teach undergrads
Second this class was an upper division. The majority of the class had no problems but some students took the class because they wanted an easy A. Those students are cunts and I didn't want to help them.
I'm not autistic but had better things to do than help little kids
>>57410742
So /sci/ lied to me, there IS money in academia.
>>57411048
This is why >>57410754
>>57410789
think I'm a cunt. I came to UCSD for research not to teach kids
research universities are great for grad school
>>57411058
Don't listen to /sci/, ever. It's largely populated by people with 4.0s in physics and math from low-tier state schools who are extremely bitter at other people who can find jobs, such as engineers. It's also more pretentious and snobby than fucking /fa/.
>>57411058
Well, uh, there is money, but compared to what $500K guy could be making in the private sector, it's not that much.
>>57411058
>>57411058
There is but you need to publish a lot
>>57411115
>It's largely populated by people with 4.0s in physics and math from low-tier state schools
It's largely populated by people who dropped out of highschool.
>>57411058
Terry Tao is an extreme genius and probably should not be used as an example
I thought you would recognize his name since he is from your country, he got a Fields medal at like age 30, insanely smart guy
>>57411115
madfag engineer detected
>>57411058
well to be fair a mathematician like terence tao only comes around once in a generation. if you're able to make as many breakthroughs as him then sure expect 500k teaching in the US
Everyone in China: why do you all go here?
Is this where you go when you don't get into UC Berkeley and need to find an excuse to go to college in California?
>>57411218
there's a ton at UCLA too
>>57411213
>well to be fair a mathematician like terence tao only comes around once in a generation
There's at least 500 or so Terry Tao caliber mathematicians alive today.
>>57411172
>>57411213
No doubt he is near the top end, but the fact that anyone can get that much money to teach at a uni is pretty impressive, and shows there is reward for effort in academia. Some Vice-chancellors of big universities in Australia don't get paid that much.
just another thread where mexicans cannot participate.
>>57411048
Teachers aren't savants but they do learn copious teaching methods. I don't think professors need to go through any amount training in that regard, I know from experience some of them can barely even speak, they just ramble on and nobody understands jack.
>>57411268
except he reached that caliber in his twenties, who knows how much farther he can go in his career
>>57411323
he makes more than the chancellor of his school
the highest paid people in the UC system are the sports coaches, I think UCLA's football coach makes like $3 million or something
there's also some doctor at I think UC San Francisco (might be UCLA) who does surgery on babies when they are still in the womb, that nigga makes like $1.1mln a year
>>57410265
I don't care if it impresses you.
Having about six thousand euros a month to spend as I liked made university a lot more fun, and someone working a minimum wage job gets no advantage whatsoever.
>b-but your d-dad
Lel who cares enjoy your salary.
>>57411356
Young prodigies usually peter out, likely because they were only ever accelerated vis-a-vis their peers, who eventually catch up.
Plus, I could comfortably hypothesize with some degree of certainty that Tao won't match his prior accomplishments by applying regression to his accolades.
See: Einstein and his regressed career post-relativity.
Tel Aviv University, about to start a class actually
Also here's a regular poster around campus
>>57411537
lol
UCSD here studying STEM, while it's fucking awesome for grad school and research, don't expect them to actually teach you anything practical, especially if you're an engineering major. You're gonna have to work your ass off with extracurricular projects (as you should) to learn as much hands-on stuff as you would at state schools like Cal Poly or even SDSU.
Also, you're gonna have to put in effort to have a good social life. But all I mean by that is you're gonna have to put yourself out there, share your common interests, and not be shy. You'll hit it off with others and you'll be able to do whatever you want to do, be it kick-backs or party-hardy 30 weeks out of the year. Just don't expect UCSD to give you a social life (even the frats have to fight for it).
Tons of Asians, so having yellow fever is a plus. Ton of neets too, but they won't bother you if you don't bother them (they stay in the library anyway). A lot of the Asians are smug FOBs though, so don't expect anything positive from them (literally rich_chinese_kid_starter_pack.jpg).
Other than that, school is nice. La Jolla is nice, and the surrounding suburbs near the university are convenient and affordable with living in groups (or you're riding financial aid like me). Having a car and an ID which says you're 21+ makes things a lot better, San Diego is the GOAT beer city and the Mexican food is on a whole other level. RIP baseball fans, though...
btw for people wondering about salary in the UC system, here is this:
https://ucannualwage.ucop.edu/wage/
most professors who teach my [intro level lecture] classes make 200k, thats pretty much standard
>>57411356
Ah, the Tiger Woods delusion
>>57411745
>Tons of NEETS
NEET - Not in Employment Education or Training.
>>57406317
Not too late at all.
SAE - School Of Audio Engineering
i-i'm gonna make it
>>57414042
What kind of music are you interested in, anon
