How is it that a country which lost two world wars, had their cities bombed to shit, and had to pay out millions in war repatriations somehow manage to be the single dominant economic powerhouse of Europe with their thumb underneath every other European country half a century later?
We're a fairly stubborn people with a tradition in science and engineering (at least in modern times).
That and the Marshall Plan. Thank you Big Strong Americans!
>>57327170
/pol/ Tier answer: We just are that awesome.
/his/ Tier answer: After 1945 Germany became a frontier state and thus was helped back on ist feet with the Marshall Plan. Being under the NATO umbrella and only partly an independent country Germany could make a lot out of this situation and recover quickly.
>>57327170
They stole more from France and the Low Countries than they ever paid out in reparations.
It's called the German Economic Miracle
Ordnung
>>57327170
Kek Germany is a US puppet state
>>57327170
It was the battlefield of economic battle of Cold War. Money was pumped into both parts to make them look superior to the other.
They're hardworking and pragmatic.
>>57327473
Muss
>>57327560
Yep, that's why we mindlessly tagged along to Iraq on some fool's errand.
No wait that was you.
>>57327473
t.pro memer who has never been to germany
>>57327670
The German military being a waste of time and your country being cucked out of fighting wars is probably a better explanation
>>57327560
>UK calling anyone a US puppet state
>>57327830
Fuck up lad
>Millions in war reparations
Half of Germany's WW2 debt was erased, actually. Germany in general got very good terms for the destruction it caused in Europe during WW2.
>>57327170
Because the US bankrolled their economy post WWII and essentially acts as their personal army.
>>57327830
That doesn't contradict his statement that UK is a US puppet.
You suck US dick every day lad.
>>57328039
This fine gentleman gets it.
>>57327170
it's because we lost 6 who held us down
>>57327830
Ok, but why are you even pretending that's something bad? The UK is one of the main actors for the MENA mess. Germany on the other hand is usually against all the 'interventions' and still gets most of the flak for the immigration for some reason.
>>57328257
*6 million people
>>57328340
They used jihadists against UK/France in WW1 though
>>57327170
Germany is fucked and a disgrace. It's a shame they have the Germanic race in the country name...
>>57327170
>the single dominant economic powerhouse of Europe with their thumb underneath every other European country half a century later?
That isn't remotely close to being true. Explain why Germany is the "single dominant economic powerhouse of Europe", using facts instead of feelings if possible.
>>57328104
>UK is a US puppet.
Neither is that
>>57327276
Hey no problem man, anything to keep you guys from going communist on us.
Please, someone explain this German dominance of Europe. I need help understanding why the ECB can repeatedly make hugely important policy decisions in the face of strident German opposition, if the Germans are dominant.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/bundesbank-opposed-latest-ecb-stimulus-package-1457709177
>>57328538
wew
You literally crawl after the US in every foreign policy decision
Germany was doing shite in the late 90s, early 2000s. It was called the "Sick Man of Europe"
>>57328538
You're just getting fucked in both ends instead of one now you know
>>57328916
>>57329045
It's all swings and roundabouts, innit.
>>57327170
Reminder that little poor Greece has a strong enough military to kill all Germans. We should give Holland, Poland and Denmark more clay and live in peace with them.
>>57328797
>Please, someone explain this German dominance of Europe. I need help understanding why the ECB can repeatedly make hugely important policy decisions in the face of strident German opposition, if the Germans are dominant.
Germans are more hard-working and law-abiding than people from other cultures like in south europe where they are lazy and have much more corruption
The life of an /int/ Germanboo:
>wake up
>see the tiny Balkan countries and even mini-Germany (Austria) do the opposite of what Germany told them to do
>notice that the Germans opposed the most important Eurozone economic policy development this decade - quantitative easing - yet it happened despite their opposition
>realise Merkel has been begging the EU for several months to respect Schengen but everyone's ignoring her and closing their borders
>watch the Germans waste the last remnants of their political capital on a deal with Turkey that pisses off the rest of the EU and will fail anyway
Conclusion? Germany is dominant and all the other countries are under their thumb!
>>57328916
Is your picture meant to prove a point? If so, what is meant to prove?
>You literally crawl after the US in every foreign policy decision
Really, is that right? Very interesting. I had NO idea the Americans joined the AIIB.
British German-baiting is pretty entertaining and high quality, if nothing else.
>>57327170
GDP uber alles
Germany is only admitting refugees because the alternative means that their empire crumbles
>>57328783
Why is that a bad thing?
>>57329112
Hmmm... how can we be a US puppet if we take decisions that go against US interests, I thought puppets were meant to be.. well, puppets? Oh no wait, I get it now. If we agree if a country on some issues but not others we are their puppet.
Goodness me it looks like we're the puppets of most countries in the world! How fun
![germany-gdp-growth[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/EWwhupm.png "germany-gdp-growth[1].png")
>>57329564
>GDP uber alles
Shouldn't their GDP growth be more impressive, then?
>>57329643
Well, at the time, that would have caused them to most likely ally with the soviets, and we didn't want that to happen.
You can't spell cuck without UK
>>57329776
Nah, since we are good enough nowadays. Let China do the rest now
>>57329518
It's not even bait. I post the unadulterated truth. If people get butthurt as a consequence, well, that is their prerogative.
>>57330012
A smaller per capita GDP than the UK is "good enough"? I thought Germany was meant to be an economic powerhouse? That's what the good folks of /int/ told me.
Surely the powerhouse meme doesn't come from "muh cars" (pfft, who needs meme industries like aerospace right??) and a larger population of people much older than the EU average? Surely not!
>>57327170
Germany's per capita GDP isn't all that impressive. Their economy is the largest in Europe because they have the largest population, that's about it.
>>57329855
Right right. I thought you meant them going communist today
>>57330596
Oh, nah, I think we would be fine with them adopting a socialist form of government now. Probably not full communist though, because then you run the risk of going full Cuba/North Korea.
>>57328538
>selling to your countries to Asiatics
That just makes you more of a slave.
>>57327997
Cause two and get 50% off on the second one!
![1405435182504541[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gH95pOb.jpg "1405435182504541[1].jpg")
>>57330817
You might as well post "I'm a stupid retard" and close the tab, it would be a quicker and easier way to arrive at the same destination. Let's unpack what you're saying.
- Investing in the high-growth Asia-Pacific makes us a slave
- Bringing the Renminbi trade to London and deepening ties with the East Asian financial hubs makes us a slave.
- Due to the latitude of the UK, it's not feasible to launch rockets into space on the majority orbits because we're too far north, the rockets would need to exert far more energy than they would nearer the equator (because of the momentum difference). Therefore we launch our satellites from French Guyana, India, and the Russian launchpad in Kazakhstan because we have a world class satellite industry and we need to get them into space somehow. This makes us a slave!
In the meantime we're building a British spaceport for spaceplanes and developing a British spaceplane so we can launch without needing rockets. I bet this makes us a slave or US puppet or something.
>>57331731
>In the meantime we're building a British spaceport for spaceplanes and developing a British spaceplane so we can launch without needing rockets
Is that to do with the SABRE rocket engine currently in production? I've been following it with some interest.
>>57331876
Yes. They're working on a prototype now IIRC
>>57327653
Sein
>>57331731
>Futuristic building
Who gives a shit what the building looks like when you have to pay India to launch your satellite.
>>57331876
>>57331943
Oh WOW! Another space-plane, Im sure this one is going to succeed where hundreds of others fail. Meanwhile you can use SpaceX's Falcon 9R and their proven design.
>>57332967
>Im sure this one is going to succeed where hundreds of others fail.
I don't quite like your attitude.
>>57329252
Exactly.
This Germany dominates b.s. is just the other countries trying to find an excuse for their terrible performance. Germany actively tries to not dominate, because they have an inofficial policy of being beta.
![142910878615701429109366[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LdH8wbo.jpg "142910878615701429109366[1].jpg")
>>57332967
We have to pay countries nearer the equator to launch our satellites due to the latitude of the UK. I'm confused why you're banging on about this when it's due to our location in the world more than anything else.
>Oh WOW! Another space-plane, Im sure this one is going to succeed where hundreds of others fail.
There's never been a UK spaceplane before, and how do you think SpaceX produce proven designs? Do you think they appear out of thin air?
Anyway it's nice to see you're so optimistic about the UK's effort, because the ESA and USAF have also tested it and think it would work
http://sen.com/news/revolutionary-rocket-engine-passes-u-s-air-force-feasibility-test
But who cares about the USAF's opinion right? Hahaha what experience does the US Air Force and European Space Agency have in advanced flying things?! Fucking amateurs. Fuck them. You, a random anon on a board for Chinese girl cartoons, are more qualified to give an opinion on the Skylon spaceplane.
>>57333423
>inofficial
>>57327170
Because:
>they didn't have to pay their WW2 denbts
>they don't have to spend on army since nobody wanted them to have one
>largest population in Europe
ITT: semi-autistic BIDF
>>57327170
marshall plan
also germany is american company. it is used to opress the slavs.
>the Brit that doesn't think he's a U.S Puppet
Every time
>>57333245
>>57333441
Do you have any idea how many 'hopeful' space projects there have been?
Even the Skylon is based off of older derivative designs that eventually failed. There is no reason this one is going to be any different.
Even now they are struggling to find investors, who have/were flocking to SpaceX.
![BAE-Reaction_Engine_Infographic_1024[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7VO6b24.jpg "BAE-Reaction_Engine_Infographic_1024[1].jpg")
>>57335431
>Even now they are struggling to find investors
BAE, one of the world's largest defence and aerospace companies, bought a 20% stake in the company just a few months ago.
>BAE Systems, UK Gov't Invest $120 Million in Skylon Space Plane Engine Prototype
http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/aerospace/aviation/bae-systems-uk-invest-120-million-in-skylon-space-plane-engine-prototype
>>57334584
>only semi-autistic
I take that as an insult
