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What went wrong?
>inb4 italians
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Italians are subhumans so it's clear that is what ruined Argentina
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italians and spaniards
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>>57272996
But the best part of America is the one with many Italians
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>>57273119
No, you're confusing Italians with Mexicans. That's ok though, it's an easy mistake to make.
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>>57273194
t. Gommiefornian
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>>57272955
ur mum
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>>57273119
*founded by the dutch and ruled by the jews
The shit part around it is where the "italians" are kept
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its not surprise that Wales, the part of the UK with the most Italians is a shithole
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>>57272996
>>57273216

What is this meme?
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>>57273214
>>57273216
Fuck you, I made this thread about Argentina not Italy
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>>57273204
t. Toni Faggito
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>>57273287
t. Lucas Corrupcionne
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>>57272955
I could write a book about that. Essentially, we where lagging behind even before Perón, but as we had a process of industrialization by import substitution before him, he tried to even go deeper. Founding heavy industry and shit, kind of like what the URSS did with the 5-year plans.

But they weren't successful, and even though liberty wasn't total, we couldn't force people into factories like the URSS. So we remained with light industry and some heavy industry but a huge gap in the middle.

The FED lowering and then rising the interest fucked us over badly in the 80s, esentially, 10 years withouht growth, that ended in the 2001 debt crisis. That was a terminal cancer kind of crisis, we ended defaulting on our debts and then 15 years of populism as a result. Because defaulting + high export prices in our commodities allowed us to recover.
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>el calafate
>el califate

INVASION WHEN?????
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why is el calafate on that map

it's a tiny little town not more relevant than fucking piedrabuena
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>>57273833
Its a touristic hub for Patagonia innit
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>>57273605

How about the corrupt mentality of your people?
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>>57273977
well yes
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nothing went wrong. were still the best
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>>57274035
>How about the corrupt mentality of your people?
Mainly bullshit. Corrupt people are everywhere in the world, we fell for the populism meme because of reasons and that fucked up the thing.

But to say that a country is sucessful because of low corruption is bullshit. It has to do with implementing the right politics.
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>>57274035
argentina was 41 million people

don't generalize
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>>57274224
>>57274233

There's a very clear bias anyway. It would be quite difficult to deny it by seeing your history.

Of course there're corrupt people everywhere but there are more and less in each country and they have different cultures with different levels of "normalization" or "acceptance" towards corruption.
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>>57274035
>people
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Why do posters here always pick on Argentina? It seems like the safest country in South America.
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Why didn't anyone learn that combining Spanish and Italian culture only ends in disaster? Just look at Naples.
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>>57277789

envy
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Argentina can't government. There might be hope with the new president however.
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Argentina has been 60 years in economic stagnation. Peronism fucked the country into what it is today. Also, Italians.
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>>57272955
Fuck you south Italians ruined everything for us ,the north ones

Lazy corrupt niggers
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literally nothing
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>>57273216
blame you're brother Mohammed
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>>57272955
argentina will be great again with macri
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>>57278725
Says the peruvian.
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Seems like they were doing great before the Italians invaded, innit?
Wonder what the problem was, suddenly turning to shit when millions of Italians came over and popped out little brown wop babies
Hmm...I don't see a relation, not at all
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>>57279260
Dont you consider Spaniards brown too? Because those were there before Italians and the country was doing quite well.
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They're the single most arrogant people I've met. My college had like 4 Argentinians and every conversation turned into "Hurr fat and lazy American pigs, you are ruining the world", they also always insisted on talking British English instead of US English despite never having been to the UK. Cars didn't have trunks they had boots, there weren't garages there were " carports" which I don't think is an actual word and chips were crisps. The whole thing really chapped my ass since their rooms surrounded my dorm.
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>>57279260
that and 5 militar dictatorships
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>>57280703
oopsie
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>>57273216
>>57278396
>>57278725
>>57279260

>>57273119
Also, even the shittiest parts of Italy have an higher HDI than Argentina, how do you explain that.
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contrary to most people beliefs, argentina's decline started in 1910 when the conservative party, traditional ally of the uk, lost the elections, since the radical party won, they embraced an isolationist policy and didn't help our historical allies in WW1,after the war ended we were screwed due to the ottawa treaties and our trade fell off a cliff, destroying our relations with the uk
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>>57278725
>muh heritage
most of the italians who came when argentina's decline started were northerners, southerners only came after
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Same reason for why the rest of America is a shithole, corruption. There is something wrong with south Europeans and their greed for money, I mean there is corrupt politicians in central and north Europe but they aren't as bad as the corruption I've seen in Spain, Italy and Latino America.

Our political class is mostly French and holy shit they're corrrupt as Fuck.
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>>57281067
not the same, argentina was once "the brightest jewel of the british empire"
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>>57280233
fat and lazy American pigs, you are ruining the world
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>>57281169
wat it was never part of the british empire

also

>yfw "as rich as an argentine" used to be an expression
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>>57281220
a plenipotenciary minister, son of based general roca was supposedly told that by some king, btw the trade between us was more than between the uk and all of the commonwealth together
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>>57280787

We are not that bad to be a South American country, look at the map and point who is better than us in our region...

Italy is one of the oldest countries in the world, once the bigest empire on Earth, the former western civilization... And now, it's a shithole.
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>>57281341
t. totally a white guy living in a barrio cerrado
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>>57281341
I never implied you're a bad country, I was asking why were you "left behind" if compared to the other developed countries. You're the richest but you're more corrupted than us (and that's not easy), have a third world homicide rate and inflation, while having an huge territory.
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>>57281447

I live in a middle class common neighborhood.
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>>57280799
bullshit. the country had no industry, the country was just agriculture exporter and that worked because the prices were really high, so people here could live fine till those days.
When the radical party came in 1916 they realised that a fall of the prices would ruin the economy so they started industrializing the country. Agro-people didn't like that (they were really millionairs, because in the beginning of the country the land here was divided only between a few powerful people) and financed the raise to the power of the militars, who obeyed them and ruined the industry.

Since then, everytime a government starts to create industry here, a military dictatorship comes and destroys it. Except for last year, that the land owners could get to the power with democracy (Macri)
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>>57281609
>>57281614
does the average argentine hate the average brit?
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>>57281614
we didn't need it though, and i actually support the peronist governments, they were the last one to have some kind of plan and ambition, if they were given 3 more years, we would probably have nukes and jets
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>>57281793
not the brits, but i would fucking kill al falklanders if given the choice tbqh
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>>57280787
Proximity to developed countries.
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>>57281532

Well... Have a 'huge extension' it doesn't mean you will be a rich country... Look at Russia for example.

We have economic problems each 15 years, and we have corrupt politicians. That's our problem.

I hope Lord Macri (son of a true italian) can fix it.
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>>57281341
>one of the oldest countries in the world
literally circa 100 years old
>now it's a shithole
topkek mi amigo
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>>57281793
No, not the average one but there are a minority of people who hate everything related to england because of the war. Of course they have never met an english person but they still hate them for no reason.
When i've been to england i was treated really really well when people new i was argentinian. I'll never forget that.
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>>57281960
*son of a terrone
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>>57282009
We get a lot of people from all continents of the world but not many South Americans, so you're kind of exotic and interesting to us.
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>>57272955
Peronismo.
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>>57281793

The average argentinians don't ""hate"" brits, but we hate the kelpers... Hate a whole nation is kind of stupid.

I like UK and it's people, and I would love live there for a couple months for touristic purposes, specially Wales.

>>57281880

This.
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>>57280233
>Hurr fat and lazy American pigs, you are ruining the world

they were right though. You promote mafia and corruption everywhere to have puppet countries weak and at your control, especially latin america.
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>>57281811
of course we needed it dude, having no industry is the reason why this country has an economic crisis every 10 years.
I don't support peronism at all but i'm sure they would be better for the country than Macri.
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>owe 100 billion dollars
>proceed to say fuck it to foreign debt

Based nation tbμ
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>>57282338
yeah, but the country had found stability since mitre, and was slowly developing, but once the conservatives lost, it all went to shit
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>>57273216
Why does Wales have more Italians than England?
There are barely any people in Wales.
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italians and spaniards
USA
peronism
the armed forces
agro-people post 1900s
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>>57282581
But if you don't pay your debts investors won't lend you money for a long time, or they will but they'll demand high interest rates.

After WW2 the UK chose to impoverish itself rather than default despite the debts being eye-wateringly high
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Sicilians and Neapolitans
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>>57272955
>impliying something went wrong
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>>57282009
>i was treated really really well
It's funny you should mention this. I've noticed I go out of my way to be super friendly to Argentinians. It's your government we have a problem with, not the people, and to be honest if we hadn't gone to war over it (which was political move for both sides) nobody would even give a shit about those islands. Because we did though I can't see you ever getting them back, or at least not 50+ years until even my generation is dead.

>>57281880
>>57282238
That's funny. Is it just because they are on "your" land or because they're retarded or something? Most Brits know nothing about them, but from what I've seen they are similar to our other isolated atlantic overseas territories - isolated/inbred/pretty weird desu - although the media/govt will paint them as "British" for the narrative.
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>>57282918
>although the media/govt will paint them as "British" for the narrative.

Huh? They are literally British citizens. The media says they are British because they ARE British in the most legal true sense of the word
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>>57283035
Actually that's only a recent thing, and although they are entitled to British passport they are NOT eligible to move to the UK automatically nor are they considered British citizens from an EU standpoint.

They are painted as "more British than British" because it suits the government and media narrative. In a way they are (because they are white) unlike the Saints (Saint Helena-ians) who are basically all brown a mixture of Chinese/Indian/White etc left there to their own devices since the Suez canal was built. But they are/were proper isolated. Weird hillbilly islanders.
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>>57282803

>>57280787
>>57280959
also only 3% of argentinian immigrants were sicilians
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>>57282918

It's because we consider them brits settlers, none of the "first" kelpers even born in the islands, they're from Scotland, Wales, England, etc..

And they claim the power to decide were they want to belong.
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Want me to be honest?
The part that went so wrong is that when the British invaded we didn't simply lie down and let them take control of the government.
(At least, if that was their intention, if they only meant to sack the city then fuck them).

Patriotismaside, let's check out the facts:

'straya is a country that was LITERALLY build by convicts and prisoners, and today it's better than Argentina.
Canada is a fucking frozen wasteland and today it's better than Argentina.
Rhodesia was african territory under british control, and it was the best country in Africa until the british were kicked out.

Wherever the british went, they brought civilization and progress with them, and to this day they keep close relations with the nations that were under british rule once.

Now let's check out Spain:
>paraguay
>chile
>peru
>bolivia
>ecuador
>colombia
>venezuela

>>57282918
>Is it just because they are on "your" land or because they're retarded or something?
I hate them because they think they're really mean and tough whenever they insult/demonize our country, and they're at most 3000 sheep fuckers whose only worth was that they had petrol sitting under their ass, which is now confirmed to be of shit quality.
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>>57283212
There's plenty of weird people in the UK too, on the various islands and also on the mainland. It doesn't matter how recent it is, if they're British then they're British.

>and although they are entitled to British passport they are NOT eligible to move to the UK automatically

The British Overseas Territories Act 2002 means they can claim right of abode in the UK due to being a British citizen. They could move here if they wanted

>nor are they considered British citizens from an EU standpoint.

The Falklands aren't in Europe and are not part of the UK, therefore of course they shouldn't be regarded as EU citizens. Gibraltar also isn't part of the UK, but it is in Europe, so they're in the EU and they vote in EU elections as part of South West England

Fun fact: Gibraltar is the only place where the Lib Dems won in the 2014 EU elections
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>>57283366
pretty sure some of the people on that island can trace themselves back hundreds of years t b h. Either way you're never getting the islands back.

>>57283428
yeah well your country invaded them, and continue to claim their land, so I can understand their butthurt even if I completely agree about them being useless sheep fuckers.

>>57283525
t. sheep shagger
I find these little islands very creepy. I didn't know they had the right of abode here t b h. But fair play I suppose and thanks for the info
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>>57283731
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>>57283731
>and continue to claim their land

Of course we do, more out of momentum than anything else.
But I don't think I've ever heard an argentine government speech post-2000 that went "yeah we will take them back and rape every single falklander to death", they've always been about solving the issue through diplomatic means, and yet whenever one of our airmen goes flying for fun, which happens once every 5 years since all our planes are broken, suddenly every english newspaper becomes "argentina makes military moves again for the islands" or "argentina wants to try again, we'll be ready", which makes me half amused half mad since it's amazing how media fearmongering works everywhere.

desu i think argentina-britain relationships would improve if the islands just exploded or something

also that would mean your retarded claim over the south pole would be over

>Either way you're never getting the islands back.
b-but muh 35% more sea
muh south pole
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>>57284000
>they've always been about solving the issue through diplomatic means
The sad fact is that's never going to happen. and while it shouldn't come down to a dick-size competition, just the garrison in the Falklands alone could repeal any invasion force/wreck Argentina's entire military capabilities and infrastructure, and I think it's likely to stay that way unless there's a massive change, because as you said

>muh fishing rights
>muh petrochemicals
>muh south pole

things can change tho. I really want to visit your cunt tb h.
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>>57281609
TE VOY A VISITAR Y ME VOY A VIOLAR A TU PERRO
>>57281793
I work next to an old British railway workers neighborhood, it's fun to see how you lived in th 19 century
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>>57284502
really? can you post pictures of the architecture - that sounds really interesting.
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>>57283428
por que siempre nos echáis la culpa de todo? fuisteis un país rico en 1900 y por esa época España era muy pobre.... :S sigo sin entenderlo
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>>57284588
I have the one of the workers
https://www.google.com.ar/maps/@-34.7234741,-58.3899815,3a,75y,267.63h,83.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srl3zuG12kAuhstt-FlHZxQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

want to see the houses of the owners of the railways? my school was there
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>>57284320
No one in Argentina wants another war except the retarded.
Unless macri starts pumping out money to the army (which he won't) we are indeed in no position to start a war.

Not to mention that a lot of the island's worth to Britain CAN be undermined in completely legal ways.

The petrochemicals are of bad quality.
Our claimed south pole overlaps with Chile's and Britain's, not that anyone will care until water starts to run out.

And lastly, if what I was told was right (I really don't know, nor know how to look for any source, I'd need to ask a person that knows about fish currents) all the fish that reaches the Falklands can be fished before in Argentine waters in a completely legal way, so if the gubbmint ever broke bad they could essentially starve the falklanders out.

Ye as amusing as that would be, I don't think that will happen.

>>57284688
no les echo la culpa
pero ojala nunca se hubiesen metido al juego de la colonizacion porque mientras gran bretaña mejoraba sus colonias ustedes saqueaban a lo loco
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>>57284784
https://www.google.com.ar/maps/@-34.7232605,-58.3917976,3a,46.2y,88.27h,78.2t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1spYY_LI_vBDQltFD9Ani4QA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DpYY_LI_vBDQltFD9Ani4QA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D321.65262%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656
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>>57284835
por alguna razon tus abuelos vienieron de europa (eso espero)
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>>57284835
>no les echo la culpa
>pero ojala nunca se hubiesen metido al juego de la colonizacion porque mientras gran bretaña mejoraba sus colonias ustedes saqueaban a lo loco
no nos dio tiempo a mejorarlas, prácticamente perdimos todas en 10 años...mientras que los británicos tuvieron todo un siglo entero para mejorar el comercio con las suyas.

Seguro argentinos que descienden de Españoles te tendría que dar vergüenza, ya que ni si quera tu existirías.
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>>57284688
Porque no entienden que son unos perdedores que arruinaron un país más desarrollado que la propia metropoli.
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>>57273194
CHI
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>>57272955
Peronism
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>>57284835
¿Pero tu sabes de lo que hablas? Argentina estaba más desarrollada que España cuando obtuvo la independencia. Lo mismo pasaba con Cuba y México. La diferencia es que destrozasteis los países a base de políticas de mierda,rebeliones y guerras civiles
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>>57284947
tengo ascendencia italiana, española y libanesa como el 99,9% del pais

no entiendo a que te referis igual

>>57284949
>prácticamente perdimos todas en 10 años
>1500 - 1800
>10 años
si, parte de mi familia es española

o sea, no odio a los españoles, si veo un español no le digo "GALLEGO PUTO CUANTAS COPAS TENES DEVOLVEME EL ORO REEEEEEEEEEEEE", pero realmente podrían haber hecho las cosas mejor

Bah, eso es desde mi punto de vista igual. Desde el punto de vista español, y en aquel momento, quizás simplemente agarrar todo el oro que podían y desaparecer era lo mejor que podían hacer para ustedes, y supongo que está bien como país.

>>57285066
La mayor parte de la culpa la tenemos nosotros, en eso estamos de acuerdo.

>>57284979
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>>57285051
>Peru
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>>57285051
Honestamente no creo que ningún otro país del mundo sepa lo que es leer historia Argentina siendo argentino.

Yo lo tuve que hacer para entrar a la universidad, historia Argentina desde el 1850~ hasta la época de Menem.

Es literalmente ver como nuestro país estaba dentro de los países que eran el futuro del mundo, economía muy fuerte y buena calidad de vida. Y después vino el movimiento "MUH TRABAJADORES MUH MUH MUH MUH" de la izquierda cancerígena, y vino el fascista disfrazado de izquierda, y después las dictaduras impuestas desde afuera, y arruinaron todo.

Es muy feo.
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>>57285156
Pero si Argentina estaba desarrollada ¿qué diferencia habría si lo hiciera UK ?
¿Realmente estais tan ciegos?
España deja un país desarrollado que tiene una mayor renta que España hasta los 60, ¿y la culpa es nuestra? Es que no lo puedo entender de verdad. Que Peru o Bolivia digan eso tiene un pase ,pero Argentina,que fue la niña mimada de nuestras colonias con México y Cuba no tiene nigún sentido
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>>57285355
>España deja un país desarrollado que tiene una mayor renta que España hasta los 60, ¿y la culpa es nuestra?
lee
>La mayor parte de la culpa la tenemos nosotros

En ese caso ya se entraría en un caso más cultural. No te ofendas, pero la cultura anglosajona es mucho más trabajadora y menos oportunista que la hispánica.
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>>57285156

>tengo ascendencia italiana, española y libanesa como el 99,9% del pais

¿Qué decís?
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>>57285309
pues entonces no le echéis la culpa a España, si erais uno uno de los países mas desarrollados del mundo donde emigraban los europeos....:S

España ha sido unpais pobre hasta los años 60 que empezó a despegar después de 300 guerras civiles
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>>57285442
negro

cuando salis a la calle compara cuantos "schmidt" o "rommel" te encontrás comparados con rodriguez o spinetti
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>>57285437
Entonces dices que es la cultura,pero países como Chile ,que tienen la misma cultura, llevan prosperando durante años, y os han superado en casi todo actualmente.
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>>57272955
Los tanos obviamente

Con los galles por lo menos hubiéramos estado un poco mejor
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>>57285529

>%99,9

Mi apellido es Lomniczy y es polaco... La tercer comunidad más grande del país.

Te lo decía por la pelotudez del '%99,9'.

Y la verdad es que encuentro más apellidos polacos/alemanes que libaneses.
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PERON
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>>57285597
>chile
>superando a argentina
si nacés de clase media-baja para abajo en chile, perdiste, en argentina por lo menos te dan la chance con la facultad publica

las prioridades de cada pais son diferentes, yo no soy ningun zurdito de mierda que va a la UBA haciendose el estudiante y milita todo el dia rompiendole las pelotas a los estudiantes de verdad, pero el capitalismo "salvese quien pueda" que hay en chile me hace creer en lo personal que no va a superar a argentina hasta que tenga politicas de ayuda a su propia poblacion
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>>57285648
Sorry I can't spic your spic
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>>57285156
>tengo ascendencia italiana, española y libanesa como el 99,9% del pais
>no entiendo a que te referis igual
que por alguna razon dejaron sus paises para venir aca, igual europa era un shithole entonces
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>>57285806
>habla en ingles creyendo que no voy a entender su idioma de mierda

no te creas el europeo papuchi que sos tan spic como nosotros
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>>57285806
t. Tano vago sin laburo
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>>57285806

Babadi babadi bubidibu

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kQA07B0X6jU
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>>57285757
Chile está superando a Argentina en casi todo. Pasaron del desastre de Allende a la economía más sana de Latam,y están mejorando en todos los indicadores a Argentina
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>>57285806
TANO DE MIERDA ANDA A LABURAR
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>>57285993
sumando a todo lo que postié arriba, argentina tiene más del doble de poblacion que chile y mas de tres veces el area
las cosas son mas complicadas cuando un pais es mas grande

sin incluir las políticas de mierda de nuestro pais y el hecho de que el 51% de la mogolicada argentina voto a un presidente neoliberal

lo cual no importa mucho porque el otro candidato era un populista de mierda
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>>57285806
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCQ0batArbc
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>>57273119
but cascadia doesn't have many italians
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>>57286169
pero con ese argumento podemos decir que brazil esta mejor que nosotros solo que tienen 4 veces nuestra poblacion lo cual no creo que sea el caso , ahi si te matan solo si los miras mal
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>>57283428
sacate la pija pirata de la boca
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>>57281341
ur gay cuz they have free weed
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>>57286305
>no puede ni pagar una pija para ponerse en la comer
ajajajajaj viva la revolucion

CIAO voy a comer carne y limpiarme el culo
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>>57286169
Argentina tiene la población de España y muchos más recursos. La diferencia es que tirasteís todo vuestro potencial a la mierda,y pronto os empezarán a superar países como Perú,y sino tiempo al tiempo.
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>>57286243
mucha parte de brazil directamente no esta poblada por nadie, 0 poblacion, nada

argentina si bien tiene una concentracion excesiva en buenos aires, igual hay gente viviendo en zonas muy lejos

ademas si queres hablar en un sentido estrictamente economico, brasil esta mucho mejor que nosotros


>>57286305
callate chavez la concha de tu madre gracias a dios te moriste gordo negro hijo de mil puta zurdo comunardo populista del ojete
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>>57285688
judio trolo
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>>57286365
;_;

ya lo se

ojala hubiese nacido en otro pais mejor y mas orgulloso
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>>57286365
si ellos hubieran sido un país habría sido perfecto para España ya que tendríamos un país hispano hablante con un buen potencial que beneficiaria a los dos países.

Por desgracia jodieron argentina y espero que sea algún día un país envidiable por que al final nos beneficia a todos.
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>>57286189
>southern italian Peter
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OFFICIAL IMMIGRATION RANKING

ITALIAN
ANGLO
VOLGA GERMAN
SPANISH
GERMAN
POLISH
IRISH
ARMENIAN
TURK/SYRIAN
JEW
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El corazón yo lo tengoooou , pintadoou
Celeste y blancoou
Por que yo amoou a la Argentina
Y además...
ACÁ ESTÁN LAS MALVINAS....AAKKAAAA! !
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>>57286491
putaso
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>>57286569
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>>57286491
You still have time to change it. But if things go like the last 60 years...
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sabe ninos
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>>57286695
>neoliberal winning
>only other party that can stand up to them is populism garbage

yeah m8 nah we're lost
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>>57286305
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reminder you should ignore argie flags since most here are underage and have no idea what theyre talking about
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>>57286365

>y pronto os empezarán a superar países como Perú
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>>57286859
Está pasando ya. Perú es de las economías que crecen más rápido,y más se han desarrollado en los últimos 20 años,mientras que Argentina lleva estancada durante años
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>>57272955
Lord macrisius first the based will make argentina bigger again you will see ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>57287083
3 0 0 %
5 0 0 %
1 0 0 %

A U M E N T O
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>>57287123
KUKA KUKEADO
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>>57287083
>Calabrian
>>57284562
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>>57284835
>Not to mention that a lot of the island's worth to Britain CAN be undermined in completely legal ways.
You don't get it. None of that stuff in your post (oil, fishing, etc) has an impact on the real value of that island to Britain.

The Falklands are one of the most distant territories from the UK and the seas are some of the hardest in the world to operate in, because they're so rough. The isolation from the UK and sheer distance makes it a logistical nightmare for the UK to do anything meaningful there. Since the Falklands War any new high-end British warships are tested against a "Falklands-like situation" i.e. can they operate under the most unforgiving circumstances for a navy

While we are able to protect the Falklands it is a signal to the rest of the world that the UK intends to project power and use its blue water navy, as such other countries will think twice before attacking another British territory. The value of the islands is that they represent the gold standard of naval challenges.

If we choose to ignore the wishes of the islanders and give the islands to Argentina because they're too much of a hassle to protect, then two things happen

1. Other countries start claiming other British territories and feel more confident in an attempt to try and take them by force, because they see British weakness (this is why Argentina invaded in 1982)

2. British citizens all over the world know that having British citizenship means fuck all and they won't be protected by the UK, i.e. there is no reason for them to continue to associate with the UK.
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>>57287024

Estuviste en Perú alguna vez?..
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>>57287183
but what country would attack britain period in this day and age where war between developed countries would mean economical suicide?

russia? lmao
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>>57285156
>libanesa
>como el 99,9% del pais

sos el primer chabon lebanés que conozco, sacando italia y españa las otras ascendencias mas comunes son judio, francés, aleman, polaco, y judio otra vez.

y sacando a los indios tambien pero esos para mi no cuentan, no los registro
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>>57287172
Mauricius is argentine
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y los arg terminaron hablando sobre descendencia, que pais de mierda son, no les veo futuro por ningun lado
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>>57287257
I don't think any country in the world has to stomach or any reason to attack the UK itself. I am talking about British *territories*. The Falklands is not our only overseas territory. We have territories and military bases all over the world, some of these military bases in foreign countries only exist because the host countries believe the British will defend their allies. What will they think when they see the UK government can't be bothered to defend the territory of its own citizens?

The overseas territories are important because they allow Britain to project power abroad. Without them we cease to be a global power.
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>>57287183
so you are not paranoid about us invading you again, more like machtpolitik against other shitholes? sick
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>>57286365
Ustedes no tienen indios, nosotros si y le chupan toda la plata (dinero para vos gallego) al estado con las asignaciones universales por hijo y planes sociales. Además rompen todo, no estudian y viven delinquiendo, y haciendo mas indiecitos.
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>>57287394
y que queres vos tambien mapuche si el hilo lo creo un italiano la dejo picando
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>>57287480
españa tiene una poblacion importante de colombianos y peruanos y no contemos a los musulmanes
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>>57287394
>mapuche envidioso de nuestros genes conquistadores y renacentistas
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>>57287480
Nosotros tenemos 1,5 millones de indios. Es el tipo de inmigrante más común. Y no tenemos ni 1/10 parte de los recursos que vosotros,y hasta hace no mucho erais más ricos que nosotros.
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>>57287394

Sobre Ascesencia*

Chileno pelotudo.
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>>57287480
>Ustedes no tienen indios, nosotros si y le chupan toda la plata (dinero para vos gallego) al estado con las asignaciones universales por hijo y planes sociales. Además rompen todo, no estudian y viven delinquiendo, y haciendo mas indiecitos.
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>>57287480
no son indios, son argentinos igual que vos, incluso representan un gran porcentaje de la poblacion de tu pais

>>57287503

"mapuche", madura capo

>>57287574
ya paso de moda ese meme de mierda, tenes un pais de mierda y te comparas con venezuela
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>>57287480
>he fell for the asignacion/planes meme

l m a o
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>>57287466
Personally I'm not paranoid about Argentina invading and in any case I think the islands are defended relatively well.

> more like machtpolitik against other shitholes? sick
You mean "realpolitik"? Well I suppose. What I'm saying is just common sense. You know what happens when a bully senses weakness and trust is betrayed.

Showing weakness is a bad idea
Betraying trust is a bad idea

Giving Argentina what it wants means the UK will do both of those things. Look at it from that point of view you'll understand the British position better
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>>57287559
Nosotros entre los bolitas, peruanos y paraguayos tenemos como 10 millones de indios facil.

Encima son todos la escoria de su pais, lo mas bajo que hay, su propio estado se los saca de encima y despues se lavan las manos.

Y depues nos viven bardeando y nos tratan como la mierda los hermanos latinoamericanos hijos de re mil puta.
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>>57287618
dale, que me respondieron 4 argentinos y los 4 me terminaron hablando sobre el color de piel

que pais de mierda jaja
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>>57287466
Nevermind I looked up "machtpolitik"

Interesting, I haven't heard of that term before
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>>57287752
que tenia que ver esa imagen con tu post?
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>>57287662
y si ustedes son mapuches que queres que te diga es como si yo me enojara cuando me dicen europeo
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>>57287766
JAJAAJAJAJAJAJJAJAJA MAPUCHE
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demasiado velas....
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>>57287662

t. Ñemkapu Huamula
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>>57287662
No, so indios.
A diferencia de ustedes nosotros no somos mapuches asi que nos diferenciamos bastante bien de los mestizillos estos latinoamericanos.

Que son muchos, sí son muchos.
Pero el argentino siempre fue y va a ser el que bajó del barco.
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>>57287766
y mira, no podes esperar respuestas serias de gente que lo unico de lo que puede enorgullecerse es el color de su piel
ahora vas a ver como me contestan con "boliviano, paraguayo, etc"
son muy basicos
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>>57288011

peruANO
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>>57287964
el argentino es el que nacio en argentina, solo eso

>>57288011
y si date cuenta como me respondieron los puber de arriba, este tipo de gente es el cancer de nuestro continente, lamentable es que son muchos
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>>57287662

>tenes un pais de mierda


Universidades llenas de chilenos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymU3Vc5M3EM
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>>57288137
preocupate por tu pais y deja de enorgullecerte por cosas que solo lo haria un tercermundista acomplejado
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>there's always a britcuck talking about malvinas in argentina thread
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>>57288073
aburris, pa
>>57288109
igual estos son resentidos sociales
a la mayoria de la gente que conozco no les importa la raza mientras laburen para el pais
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>>57288248

>pa

ves que sos un negro
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>>57288248
ZURDITO CULO ARDIDO
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>>57288248
negro de mierda, tomátelas
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>>57288344
no ser resentido es ser zurdo?
>>57288367
>>57288304
son muy basicos
que feo debe ser vivir con tanto odio contenido
me imagino que los negros les pegaban en el colegio
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After reading this thread is obvious what is wrong with Argentina. Argentinians
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>>57288459
La verdad me chupa un huevo y la mitad del otro la opinion de un negro resentido.
Saludos.
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>>57288540
el resentido sos vos
por algo me contestas con tanto odio
que tengas un buen dia.
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>>57288476
what wrong is having bolivians like this living in this country
>>57287662
>>57287691
>>57288011
>>57288248
>>57288459
>>57288585
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>>57288638
>he fell for the clarin meme

lmao lads

i cant + mrs........
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>>57288585
chupame la pija zurdito liberal gracias a dios no vuelven nunca mas al poder
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too close to the continent overlord aka Brazil
its just the same with Canada and Mexico, they will always be irrelevant as long as USA is there
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>>57288476

Roca should have cleaned upwards too..
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>>57288722
vos sabes que macri es liberal, no?
no se porque asumis que vote o me gusta cristina igual
con cada post no haces mas que confirmar que sos un pibe de menos de 16
ahora si tenes 20 y pico sos un pobre tipo, no hay mas vueltas que darle
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>>57288725

7 - 1
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>>57288725
>too close to the continent overlord aka Brazil

>
ayy
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>>57288725

don't you have some politician to jail?
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>>57288824
DALE BOBO ANDA A *****RESISTIR CON AGUANTE*********** AJJJAJAJAAAJJAJJAAA
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>>57288725
Mexico is pretty relevant and can become an important country if they continue to develop well. Population of Mexico is almost as large as the population of Russia. 123 million people. Decent manufacturing industry as well.

In fact I think Mexico could easily be a top 10 economy
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>>57288939
y viste que sos un tarado?
es al pedo contestarte
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>>57288862
>>57288874
>>57288919
dont get me wrong, argiebros, i didnt mean to sound cocky or rude, I really like your country but the fact is, there cant be two great powers in this continent, its just the same as north america and everyone knows Brasil is the USA of South America.
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>>57288874
>no novia parda anti-populista brasileira
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>>57288968
Yes, they could, but the fact that they are so close to USA wont allow them to
Learn some geopolitics
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>>57289064
dale anda a quejarte a facebook que macri es la dictadur pelotudo ajajjjajaajajj
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>>57288874
>them rock-hard nipples and large titties
>those tight apnts
>that pretty smile
>those beautiful armpits and arms

holy FUCK
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>>57289096
yes but south america is a shithole, you're the big fish in the detritus pond
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>>57289210
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>>57289096
>there cant be two great powers in this continent
>he fell for brazil super power meme

you gifted yourself
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>>57289210
this bitch is a 5/10 here at best
argies confirmed for shit taste
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>>57289159
Being so close to the USA won't allow them to do what?

Be a top 10 economy? Canada is/has been a top 10 economy.

Be relevant? Russia and previously the USSR is RIGHT next to the USA, so according to your geopolitics the Soviet Union was irrelevant?
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>>57289320
man, i've been alone all my life

no woman except my mom has ever loved me

if a girl that pretty said she wanted to be with me i'd accept
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>>57289320
>this bitch is a 5/10 here at best

Because she don't have a 30cm dick right?
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>>57289276

>south america is a shithole

meanwhile in England:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaIVUhRqYa4
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>>57289319
well we are the 7th world economy and the 2th greatest in the americas, only behind USA
i dont get your point

>>57289343
Canada is totally irrelevant, more than Mexico I would say

>USSR is right next to the USA

Nigga what
I hope you are not talking about some Alaska bullshit

>>57289429
Not enough ass, hips not large enough
We brazilians are high test
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>>57289276
>>57289472
>when english people see a white men

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq6c_BHDTI0
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el buliado kjasjaksasjasjkaja >>57289394
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>>57289472
London being a shithole does not make south america any less of a shithole

besides, our nige will see us through in the end
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>>57289561
Are you seriously trying to argue that Russia isn't right next to the USA?

You need to explain to us all why pic related makes Russia irrelevant.
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>>57289561
>Not enough ass, hips not large enough
>We brazilians are high test
>high test

That's niggers test
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>>57272955
Maradona.
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>>57289766
yeah dude OK
The totally irrelevant USA state is right next to a almost non populated Russia location
You are right, i am wrong

>english education

I guess thats the reason you think you own the Malvinas
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>>57272955
Jews.
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>>57290037
So it's about population centres?

Ok, explain yourself. Why is Mexico, a country of 123 million people with its own distinct culture and identity doomed to irrelevance because it's next to the USA? Consider that globalisation is a thing before you reply.
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>>57289766
>Russia is relevant

good joke lad
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>>57290599
Eh well, they're less powerful than people think but they are relevant to global affairs. Sitting on the UNSC P5 makes you relevant by default
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>>57289394
nooooooooo jasjaksajsjasjaja
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>>57273605
>import substitution
>success
this is dying socialist economy tire
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>>57281933
Yes. It's called trickle down whiteness
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>>57280233
We learn proper English here and in the rest of the world exept for Kekxico
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>>57272955
Fuck off dad
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>>57280233

>there weren't garages there were " carports" which I don't think is an actual word

American education everybody..
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>>57285993
Como te lavó la cabeza /int/
Cual es el estandarte de Chile a la hora de hacerse los primermundistas? El IDH. Anda ahora a Wikipedia o a la página de la ONU a chequea quien está más alto en la lista.
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"Los Argentinos son todos unos ladrones del primero al último."

t. Jorge Batlle

"Esta vieja es peor que el tuerto"

t. Mujica
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>>57296792
Pasa que los uruguayos dicen esas cosas desesperadamente para distanciarse de los argentinos, así los demás no se dan cuenta que en realidad Uruguay es parte de Argentina de manera no oficial.
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>>57296792
no me puedo enojar con los uruguayos son como el hermanito que quieren que le den bola
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>>57272955
I will tell you the truth: most people is politically retarded. Also too many negros.
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>>57296792

literally whos
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>>57297676
t. Bolivian living in argiland
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>>57282307
>You promote mafia!
>Posted from the country that created the mafia
Wew.lad
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>>57296864
>>57296996

La verdad que somos tsundere por Argentina.
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>>57299150
>tsundere
vas a morir virgen
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>>57280233

Carports are a thing in the US but they are just a roof that goes over the place you park your car. It's not like a building. I have one in front of the single wide trailer I live in to give you an idea of where you'd find one.
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>>57272955
Not being colonized by ANGLOS
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>>57299915
>wanting to have muslims and real niggers not the light brown ones
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>>57300269

>implying the light brown ones aren't worse
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>>57300681
>implying i want them

Gracias mauri pronto va a limpiar a argentina
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>>57300778

>he will inflate taxes to the point of niggers starving to death

THANKS MACRI
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M
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Top kek. Do people really believe this?

They are even starting to bring poo in loo engineers (there was an article in magazines presenting the poos and how much 'they love argentina" and how benefitial they are).

Krustyna brought regional shitskins and a liberal economy will bring global ones and refugees. We're screwed no matter what.

We'll end like France.
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>>57300964

>surrendering to krauts

I'm OK with this..
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italians and spaniard
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>>57300964
At least they'll bring capable shitskins, south american shitskins are completely useless, good for nothing the lot of them.
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>>57301122
Shitskins are shitskins no matter what. Also most of them have fake degrees and end bringing their 300+ family with them. Like those colombian/ecuadorian """"doctors"""" in capital's hospitals

I'll lmao when Capital turns into London 2.0 and the porteniggers complain about the lack of jobs and decadence.
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>>57301251
>porteniggers

Hello nico-arg please don't conquer my city
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>>57301438
hay que ponerlo a viggo brad es terrible trolazo
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>>57272955
Nothing went wrong Argentina is great, I love them they are our biggest friend . :3
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>>57301532
;3
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>you will NEVER smoke una vela with an argiebro
Might as well end it lads
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>>57301532

no seas trolo
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