Non native English speakers: what was the hardest part of learning English? What part of English gave you the most trouble, or still does? Also, what does it sound like to someone who doesn't speak it natively?
Discuss.
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French dialect ?
Not that hard to learn tbf
H part is not using insults to everyone, because they are the 1st thing you learn, and also anglos are so fucking stupid.
>>57190711
>Romans forced their language on the French
>original celtic French language goes extinct
>Normans conquer the French, adopt the language of their French slaves and force some of French language on English
I don't understand what this pic is supposed to prove.
Pronunciation and its fucking exceptions
>>57191180
Such as?
>>57191137
that a lot of french and english words refer to the same thing making it easier to learn dumb cunt
>>57190632
>what was the hardest part of learning English?
to pronounce it like i had a potato in my mouth. still can't achieve it
>Also, what does it sound like to someone who doesn't speak it natively?
wash and wear wash and wear wash and wear
>>57191231
Based kangaroo is based
>>57191215
Like sight words
>>57191231
I have no clue what you're talking about. The French are the worst English speakers on /int/.
>>57191466
That would be the japs, though i think they're doing it ironically
I think pronunciation is the easiest, mainly because there's way too much media to imitate, the exception are some words that I have only read in books, and I don't have a single clue on how they are pronounced.
Hardest, I think sentence and paragraph composition, even though you can arrange words in the order you like and have a 90% chance that most of people will understand what you were trying to say, it's way too easy to look like an idiot while writing or speaking in English. Even native speakers have the same problem. Idk if it's because of the language or because we are getting use it.
fucking tenses.
past participle can go fuck itself along with its other assorted bullshit brothers.
>>57191359
Such as "see" "saw" sees" and "seen"?
>>57191610
Examples pls.
Also obligatory
>POO
>>57191643
Bee, baw, bees, and been.
>>57191714
Makes sense to me.
Though I can understand how someone leading would have trouble with pronunciation.
Past tenses are just utter bullshit.
The vocabulary, I guess. There's always some word I lack that pops up when I least expect it.
Can't say I had any particular trouble with learning the language, came pretty easily to me.
But to this day I still can't pronounce the "th" sound properly or make my "i", "ee", and "ea" sound distinguishable.
>>57191643
>>57191714
Sheet
>>57191706
>Also obligatory
>POO
I don't talk to retards who spout memes.
>>57191850
Mouse, mice; house, hice; douse, dice.
>>57190632
Differenciating British English from American English is hard sometimes. I'm studying English in uni, and for the exams we're asked to choose to write in Brit or US English. If we choose for example US English and writes some Brit words some teachers get mad af
>>57191610
>DESIGNATED
>>57191855
:^)
>>57191950
>SURRENDERED
Fucking prepositions
Still fuck me up, I've been speaking english for 5 years already and one of these days I said "in holiday" and someone corrected me. I often have no idea what preposition to use.
>>57190711
Kek frogs have one of the lowest English literacy rates.
>>57192007
At least they've managed to put up a fight.
>>57191804
Give examples
>>57191804
They're quite a powerful tool, actually. Once you figure them out, your own language's tenses system would seem flawed and incomplete.
>>57192087
what are you implying? we did most of the heavy lifting in Africa and SEA theater even if under the british crown.
Being Portuguese and English grammatically close. Only thing i needed was remembering the corresponding nouns.
>>57192208
>Shithole fighting shitholes
Nothing to be proud of here, Pajeet.
>>57190632
Articles. I FUCKING hate them. Cyka blyad. I still can't handle all these "the, a, an".
Will will smith smith?
Will smith will smith.
>>57190632
What is American obsession with corn? Can't figure it out tbqh
>>57192378
shows your level of education pierre, we are talking about WWII where the Nazis , Fascist Italian and Imperial Japanese troops were rekt by Royal Indian Army, Navy and Airforce unlike you people who went and got assfucked like the homosexual people that you are.
>>57190711
>Fill up dictionary with scientific words that most people don't use
>Hon hon hon english is just a le french dialect
>>57192461
Will Will Smith smith?
Will Smith will smith.*
Don't confuse the poor saps even more 2bh.
>>57192192
They are an absolute mess. Past perfect is especially idiotic, because it's existence is completely meaningless. Actually, the whole English tenses system is an archaic mess.
>>57190632
Having speach impediment, being socially autistic and refusing to communicate with anyone
>>57190632
A rapid mix of s and th sounds, as in "What is this?"
That one used to break my tongue hard, and Germans tend to make an absolutely retarded th.
>>57192604
I don't see how it's idiotic. People use it everyday if it made no sense, there would be no reason to use it
>>57192411
Can anyone give me advice on articles?
>>57192411
What is there to not understand? Use "an" in front of any word starting with a vowel (a,e,i,o,u). If it's a word with the SOUND of a vowel (like a letter. Say AN "M". Not A "M".
>>57192663
Woah are you me
>>57192665
Technically the "is" s sound is a z sound
>>57192556
Pajeet starting to act like the arab nice
>we won the war for you you owe us
Nah nigga, we owe the Russians and the Americans that's it.
>>57192411
>two words
>only one form, not 50 forms like in German
That's the easiest part of the language. You're just dumb.
>>57192666
LADRÃO
The pronuntation, but that hapens in most languages.
Also, it's been like 7 years since I studied any english as in grammar and such, so I'm quite rusty in that aspect. Also, when I writte it I usually misspell things.
>>57190632
>Also, what does it sound like to someone who doesn't speak it natively?
Like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt4Dfa4fOEY
>>57190632
Having to learn it while surrounded by Indians and pakis that constantly said "wag1 blud innit wayu sayin senpai swear on me mums lyf". It was really hard to understand them as I only learnt formal English when I was little.
I ended up with quite a good accent though, can't complain.
>>57192687
I know about an usage. I don't know when it's right to put "the" or "a/an" before words.
>>57192802
>I know about an usage.
I know about *its* usage
>>57192802
You put "the" when you're referring to something specific, and "a/an" when it's a generic one.
E.g. We want to buy the house (you know the exact house you wanna buy)
We want to buy a house (you still don't know which house you want to buy)
>>57192802
Here's how.
If I say "let's read the book", I'm referring to a specific book.
If I say "let's read a book" I'm requesting to any book in existence. It's not specific.
TL;DR: use "the" to be specific. Use "a" to not be specific.
>>57192556
>rekt
The only things that can be rekt by Indians are newborn girls and people trying to harm a cow
Thank you for help m8s.
Though, cough
There, dare
Nit, Knight
Knife, night
Care, bear
:^)
>>57193140
NP, I like to help teach English.
>>57190632
Not very hard to learn basic English
Aside from the retarded spelling it's all pretty simple, a language for mentally impaired people
>>57193237
Start a Vocaroo thread. Those are always popular.
>>57192604
I don't get your point.
I'm not getting your point.
I haven't gotten your point.
>>57193140
This guy >>57192931 is wrong. You said "articles" and he tries to fix it with an error "I know about ITS usage." You're better off learning English by speaking with native speakers. You can't learn accent from reading either and you'll come off like a Brazilian when you say something like "yooSAGE."
>>57193276
I've got da hard Chicago accent though. Not sure if I'd be the best example :(
>play online game
>Talk on mic, initiate chicaaaago accent
>people start mocking me with the SNL superfans skit
Feels bad man
In/at/on. Fucking arbitrary cancer.
Pronunciation can be a bitch too with the same letters actually representing a billion different sounds. It doesn't help that there's a shitton of various accents out there and the hordes of non-native speakers you constantly interact with always mispronounce things, leaving you with a clusterfuck in your head and no idea what is the correct way to say things.
>>57192521
Blame Monsanto.
>>57193378
Voice in Google said "yoozedi". And I thought I was saying "yooSAGE" correctly.
Damn it
>>57193467
What are some of the pronunciation problems you have? Provide some examples and I can help you anon.
>>57193467
Provide examples so we can help you.
Germanics have an easier time learning English so don't get too frustrated.
Why do Russians struggle with articles? Do Romance language speakers struggle with articles?
>>57193784
Nope. The Romance languages I know have similar article systems
>>57193596
>yoozedi
What?
>>57192790
spanish suck with their pronuciation of foreign languages in general
not trying to be rude, it's just a fact
>>57190632
obscure words
>>57193965
I don't know, maybe I'm just used to Mexicans trying to speak English, but Mexicans don't sound that bad with their accent when speaking Eengleesh
>>57193398
Fairly certain you're more fit for the job than me :D
>>57193596
Google is a lying cunt m8
>>57193939
The other guy said that Brazilians say "yooSage" so I went to google translate and it sounded like a "yoozedi" or "yoozedee" lol
>>57194061
mexicans don't speak spanish like the spanish do. mexicans have softer "s" and "j" that work just fine in english. but the spanish have "h" and "th" and all these sounds that avoid the most common sounds of most western languages
>>57194132
When I try Deutsch it just goes full hell at me
>>57194270
deutsch isn't hard, you just need to live with native speakers for a while
>>57194398
You also need to sound like you're about to whip someone with your voice. Seriously, German is an ugly sounding language.
>>57194398
I live in the southernmost part of Brazil, there are even German communities here. Still not luck to find someone who speaks it
>>57194223
> but the spanish have "h" and "th"
Like... English?
>>57194514
German sounds pleasant to me. Especially as a Californian that has to hear awful mexican accents.
>>57194548
vais conseguir
>>57194514
can't agree tbqh. german can sounds really well depending on who speaks it. it can even sound really sexy, depending on the girl
"anon komm hier mein liebschen und hilf mich mit mein bettzeug :3"
austrian german sounds a bit silly (at least my austrian teacher did)
>>57194553
yeah but they use them when they read a "g" and a "s", respectively. you can see how this works out.
Damn it, don't die on me.
Needs more Vocaroo. Read us something fun, native speakers :3
>>57193784
The slavic languages doesn't have articles (there are few exceptions)
>>57198095
That seems so weird. How can sentences function without them?
>>57198165
I don't know Asian languages like Russian but I think Latin lacked articles but the articles existing in derivative languages like French came from pronouns like "this" and "that."
A combination of case declension and pronouns were used to specify stuff.
>>57190632
To understand your weird speech, this is the hardest.
>>57190711
>French dialect ?
>Not that hard to learn tbf
This, I hope the village germanic French's version won't be so popular and people will learn the god tier Français
>>57198374
Care to explain?
>>57191466
Because they don't need to learn your language, they actually native at the lingua franca.
semicolons are the best
>>57198462
“Here is a lesson in creative writing. First rule: Do not use semicolons. They are transvestite hermaphrodites representing absolutely nothing. All they do is show you've been to college.”
― Kurt Vonnegut
>>57198414
Most anglo dialects are too soft and Russian speaker can't watch your movies comfy even he has a normal wordcase.
We have to make the habbit in listening.
The Secret Circle is the only one TV-show that I can watch without prewatching in Russian.
Also I watch How I Met Your Mother in French.
>>57198504
well shit I got rekt; however, I will keep using them. If semicolons are shit then what mark do you like best.
Also French is easier to understand. This is why it's better as the lingua franca and really deserves to be.
>>57198618
good job sideways mixed up french flag
>>57198504
Daily reminder: Kurt Vonnegut was a hack; genre fiction is for plebeians.
>>57198682
Rich russians were a native speakers, and I proud of it
>>57198733
then what happened to those rich guys
>>57190711
Nah, the most commonly used words in English are of Germanic origin, and the words children learn first are Germanic too. The grammar structure in is Germanic.The Latin words just give us more choice and variety latter in life. Nice list here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Germanic_and_Latinate_equivalents_in_English
>>57198530
What do you mean too soft? As in the words aren't as strong as Russian words?
How to use articles(a and the) is the most difficult for me.
I don't understand why these are needed.
It seems to be not needed to communicate.
>>57198976
How would you refer to a specific item?
>>57198618
The French lost their empire and influence. The language doesn't deserve to be lingua franca
>>57198905
>>57198905
t. frank mcroman
>>57198905
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Germanic_and_Latinate_equivalents_in_English
Not sure how to feel about this. Latinists and Romance speaking brown people say English would have been linguistically impoverished without Latin/French influence but German is fine.
On the other hand if Anglo-Saxon had no Norman influence it might have ended sounding like Danish, Dutch or other languages that sound like poop.
>>57190632
Pronunciation and remembering to use a/an/the.
>>57199419
What is hard about articles?
>>57199450
Finnish does not have them.
>>57199481
oh sounds like a fun language
>>57199339
>On the other hand if Anglo-Saxon had no Norman influence it might have ended sounding like Danish, Dutch or other languages that sound like poop.
Old English is really nice sounding to me, who knows how it would have morphed without the other influences down the centuries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfaEGU45lKA
The phrasal verbs, those things are very complicated for a spanish speaker.
Also, when I speak english, everybody says that I speak like Fernando Alonso.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXKqf4_JAXQ
>>57199546
I think Old English sounds beautiful. It's a shame our language was ruined by the French
>>57199546
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptp_v7chhm4
>>57199481
Then how do you get the news?
>>57199672
We just get news.
>>57190711
>Not that hard to learn tbf
not according to your countrymen's terrible abilities.
>>57199560
How are phrasal verbs hard?
>>57192604
English might be a bit too complex for you, perhaps you should stick to Russian
>>57199738
Becouse you could change all the meaning of a sentence by only changing an adverb, we don't have anything like that in spanish.
>>57199672
a lot of languages do not have articles. they use other stuff like context to determine if it is generic or specific
it is extremely hard for someone speaking a language without articles to learn them, so stop asking what is so hard
Why do Americans always say "Did you already see" instead of THE correct "Have you already seen"?
I thought that " yet, etc" indicate the past perfect
>>57200063
It's not that once you get used to it I guess. For example
>When Americans visit the price of burgers will go up
>When Americans visit the price of burgers will go down.
>>57199672
>>57200571
"Have you seen this yet?" is correct.
just ignore americans
>>57199560
irregular verbs were a bitch, coming from a language with a deep verb structure
>>57200571
Don't look to yanks for sensical English, they've butchered the language beyond recognition.
>>57200571
I have yet to see someone who isn't either a nigger or white trash do that.
Shame Australian weren't the standard for English in the past 50 years
>American: Gameboy
>Australian: Gamebloke
>>57200653
It's our language now.
>>57200820
Absolument mon ami.
>>57190632
Pronunciation I guess, it wasn't too hard to remember grammar and ortography, I've grown up playing videogames in english most of the time, even now I prefer English over my native language.
>>57200972
>even now I prefer English over my native language.
I find that pretty sad
>>57200859
English is a terrible language 2bh, so much wrong with it.
>pronunciation
How letters sound changes pretty much from word to word. Finnish doesn't have that issue since it's phonetic. Finnish is a lot easier to pronounce as well since our words are mostly aa oo uu ii ee.
>grammar
Articles are pretty terrible. You're supposed to use "a" before a word that starts with a consonant and "an" before a word that starts with a vowel, but then you suddenly write "an hour" because when you say the word "hour" you don't hear the initial consonant :^).
>words
Most of your words are really undescriptive. Take the word umbrella. The fuck's an umbrella? Oh right, it's that thing Mary Poppins uses and it also shields you from pouring rain, cool. In Finnish it's "sateenvarjo", which literally means "rain's shade" or "shadow of the rain". I'd come up with more examples but I just woke up and am tired.
>>57201645
I'll learn finn I think. Looks cool tbf.
>>57201735
>16 cases
nope
>>57201645
>>57200859
>the eternal franco butthurt
>>57201753
Only like 13 are commonly used. Hungarian has it worse, too. Also, we don't have prepositions like in/on/from/to or articles. Agglunation is brilliant too.
>Finnish extensively employs regular agglutination. It has a smaller core vocabulary than, for example, English, and uses derivative suffixes to a greater extent. As an example, take the word kirja "a book", from which one can form derivatives kirjain "a letter" (of the alphabet), kirje "a piece of correspondence, a letter", kirjasto "a library", kirjailija "an author", kirjallisuus "literature", kirjoittaa "to write", kirjoittaja "a writer", kirjuri "a scribe, a clerk", kirjallinen "in written form", kirjata "to write down, register, record", kirjasin "a font", and many others.
>mfw Finnish will never be lingua franca
>>57191948
Pure Evil
>>57190632
Those chicks look like spanked asses
>>57202049
Memes aside, Finnish seems kind of similar to Japanese.
>>57199014
He just did, in referring to The "articles".
>>57201952
Non du tout.
>>57201645
>sateenvarjo
Why do so many Finnish words look so barbaric.
>>57202135
Japs who move here, or come to study, have said that Finnish was relatively easy to learn for them. Pronunciation is similar from what I can gather, except that we stress the first syllable whereas in Nippon it's the last (I think).
>>57202143
The French seem like the only ones on here that consistently try to play down Britain's cultural achievements and attribute everything to America. It's like clockwork, every time the topic of English comes up.
>>57201645
>windshield
>shields you from wind
>deodorant
>de-odors you
>hoodie
>has a hood
>shoelace
>lace for your shoe
>duck
>ducks under the water in an attempt to drown itself
but yeah most of our words are fairly undescriptive.
>>57202209
Because we're pretty aware of the english success.
Aren't you ?
Dare you, little cunt, dare you say that without America "english" would be that important ?
You're either delusional or an autistic fuck. Wake up man.
English """"Culture""""""
Top fucking jej.
>>57202329
You really sound upset mate, just proving my original point.
>>57202477
I don't see how it's proving anything you said.
>>57202329
I agree with this French anon here.
>>57198618
>This is why it's better as the lingua franca
Dude only niggers and muslims speak french
>>57202193
because as an english speaker living in america, you're probably used to seeing words like the one you listed in reference to places in uncivilized parts of South America/Africa/etc., or at least you have the impression that those places are uncivilized.
>>57190632
Your retarded grammar and the fact that it is not phonetic language.
> tfw fast speaking yooper accent
Even a lot of my fellow Americans don't understand me
>>57192599
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
>>57202329
Thanks, France. Sorry none of your colonies panned out.
>>57203020
I don't know what's the worst.
Watching a former colony which became independant beating my own culture or watching other colonies dying in their mud (and emigrating en masse in the ex colonialist).
Let's be honest.
United Kingdom and France, it went bad.
>>57203129
>Watching a former colony which became independant beating my own culture or watching other colonies dying in their mud (and emigrating en masse in the ex colonialist).
The worst is obviously the latter. The UK holds its own against the US in many aspects of popular culture.
>>57203129
>England
>invented the lingua franca
>invented THE most popular sport in the world, as well as many other international sports (france invented none)
>huge cultural output in the fields of music, literature and entertainment (can't think of any popular French TV shows, only a handful of popular contemporary musicians, many of which sing in English - Phoenix, Daft Punk etc)
>spawned the richest, most successful and powerful colonies in the world (France has ... Quebec?)
It's time to face facts Pierre. You came second in the game of civilisation.
>>57203421
Point of view tbf.
>>57203542
Sports : tennis, cyclism for the most known
Music : techno, good dnb don't need paroles
Disgusting pop rock from UK isn't good music for eclectic tastes.
It's time to face another fact Irvin, UK is a french colony.
>>57203542
you sure are good at entertainment. You're nothing more than jesters for your betters.
>>57203542
Thank fuck for the UK.
>>57190632
Please explain these things:
"Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo",
"James, while John had had "had", had had "had had"; "had had" had had a better effect on the teacher".
>>57190632
The hardest part of learning english was my dick.
[spoiler] or the fact that no one really wants to practice out of fear of sounding mexican. [/spoiler]
>>57203743
>tfw cricket has been invented in France
>>57190632
when i was at school the hardest part was grammar. Since school i still didn't get it, so i just translate word by word russian sentence and the grammar i put in the way i feel.
I still don't get this "down\up" words. Like "screw up", "are you down?" and everything like that. I mean i know what they mean but i don't get how are they formed. Like why is it screw up but not screw down?
>>57203991
>why is it screw up but not screw down?
It is an expression, there is no reason for it
I remember when i was a little kid i thought that "the" was weird since there's no word for it in swedish.
>>57204319
Balls are weird too right
>>57201645
Only a primitive retard language wouldn't have a word that means just "umbrella".
What do you call spoons? "Food scoopers"? What do you call a shirt? I bet you call it "cover of the torso".
Is it normal to have a very good understanding of English, but have difficulty in differentiating between the parts of speech?
(i.e., If you asked me to give you an example of a past participle or an interjection, I'd most likely not be able to)
>>57204625
Food scoopers lmao
>>57204625
Uh oh, you got me.
>What do you call spoons?
Lusikka
>What do you call a shirt?
Paita
>>57201645
"Umbrella" literally means "shade". It's from Latin.
>>57204754
>umbrella...from Latin umbella "sunshade, parasol," diminutive of umbra "shade, shadow"
>literally means shade
retard
worst part was probably having to study english as a mandatory school subject until you were 19
>>57205067
Shut the fuck up.
>>57205135
Don't tell him what to do.
>>57205191
Don't tell HIM what to do!
>>57204754
>>57205067
I should probably have added that they make little sense without knowing the root languages.
>>57205224
Don't tell ME what to do'
>>57192051
I've been leaning PT for 5 months straight now and PT prepositions are way harder. The key was to just stop linking it back to your own language (even if most of the times the translation is correct).
>>57191610
>>57191838
Past tenses are legit one of the easiest to learn, phonetically it's simple and not a lot to memorize the problem arises when it's written.
Spanish or Portuguese and probably Italian as have tons of other words, say for example "saw"
>>57192556
>royal indian airforce
HAHAHA
>>57190632
Spelling.
It's retarded.
Pretty easy language, and you're surrounded by it on tv and on the internet.
R and L sounds.
2bh its impossible for me(japanese people)
>>57190632
How English sounds to non-English speakers
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vt4Dfa4fOEY
>>57208389
What anime is the image from?
Learning english was mostly playing videogames and watching TV, so it was actually fun to do. English is different enough from dutch to make my brain use english grammar. German is way too similar to Dutch and I keep on trying to "germanize" dutch words and grammar if i try to speak it.
the "th" sound is still hard.
>>57190632
I guess the hardest part were all those past continuous, past perfect etc. Those last few exams where we had to use all of them together were pretty tough. I still made it through with 5s, though.
Other than that, it wasn't really anything special. Literary Slovene has its own peculiarities so in many cases, high school English was easier than high school Slovene.
>>57203749
I'm still waiting
>>57203749
>distinguishing the parts of speech? pff
>>57213679
Yes, this one is logical, but if you understand the buffalo one, then please explain it.
the r sound sounds like some down syndrome spasm, and the th sounds like a gay lisp
Ok, what is happening here ?
>>57213935
Buffalo (adj.) buffalo (noun), [that] Buffalo (adj.) buffalo (noun) buffalo (verb), buffalo (adj.) Buffalo (noun) buffalo (noun)
Normal languages use commas here.
I don't understand why there is "buffalo" instead of "buffaloes" or "buffaloed" though
>>57215001
Well, these commas fixed everything, even though my brain is forcing me to not understand it.
Thanks based russian, now just stay away from Latvia.
>>57190632
I guess the hardest for me was (and still is to some extent) the conjugation and particularely the appropriate use of tenses, like the past perfect or past conditional.
pronouns are cancer
>>57190632
nobody to speak it with because why would you speak in english when you could speak in spanish
>>57202049
fuck man that's pretty cool
>>57190632
Articals
Some vowels like fOOd vs fOOt
But in general english seems to be one of the simplest languages in the world
>>57216325
*articles
>>57216325
>Some vowels like fOOD vs fOOt
Says the guy who has two different i sounds in his language. The bI letter is still a mystery to me.
>>57203749
Had and had had have had different meanings through time, whilst had is the simple past tense had had had referred to having had.
>>57208630
Dutch to me always sounds like if I've had a stroke and completely forgetten english. The sounds and rhythms sound exactly like english to me.
>>57216460
Short and long U and some other pair vowes are fucking mysteries for me, we don't learn it in school and it's pretty hard to learn to pronaunce em right in the internet.
difference between ы and и is obvious for me because that's the native language
>>57216824
How do you guys handle the three different th sounds in english considering we only use th for all of them?
>>57216873
> three
>>57216873
there are only two you illiterate
>>57217066
Voiced, Voiceless and occasionally glottal
>>57216873
For me consonants are much easier
>>57217217
>literally making shit up
>>57190632
>what was the hardest part of learning English?
english is literally the easiest language to learn senpai
>>57217268
>Literally ignoring northern accents of english
>>57217217
>glottal
they are dental fricatives you mug
the only glottal sound in English is fucking [h], also glottal stop in the context of [t]
>>57217308
This, even polish is harder to learn for me, even though it belongs to the same branch
on at in
>>57190632
Differences between didn't / haven't / hasn't etc etc.
>>57190632
the amount. thats it. and the same goes for any other languages which arent rooted on the same language tree.
the main problem wih English for me is the sheer volume of it
most languages are fully functional at several thousand vocabulary items, eloquent speech is achieved at tens of thousands, only top-tier literati break the barrier of 100k
meanwhile fucking English with its 1 million vocabulary fucking items
>>57216824
I guess the u in foot is a bit like an ö, except closer to u. That's strange that you didn't learn about them in school.
And that bl letter is really weird. I was told it's not like our schwa sound (ә - like ea in earthquake) but even deeper somehow.
>>57216873
>three different th sounds
Examples? Th like in three or teeth is easy since you just put your tongue between your teeth for it.
I think the hardest parts are:
- spelling/non-predicatble pronunciation
- unneccessary amount of loanwords; basically for you have every word twice, once in Germanic and once in Romanic or Greek
- prepositions (but this difficult in other languages as well)
- too many tenses (I mean, isn't one past and one present form enough?
>>57194699
>"anon komm hier mein liebschen und hilf mich mit mein bettzeug :3"
l-lewd
also, tfw no gf
Dearestcreatureincreation
Studying Englishpronunciation,
I will teach you in myverse
Sounds likecorpse,corps,horseandworse.
I will keep you,Susy,busy,
Make yourheadwithheatgrow dizzy;
Tearin eye, your dress you'lltear;
Queer, fairseer,hearmyprayer.
Pray, console your lovingpoet,
Make my coat looknew, dear,sewit!
Just compareheart,hearandheard,
Diesanddiet,lordandword.
Swordandsward,retainandBritain
(Mind the latter how it'swritten).
Madehas not the sound ofbade,
Say-said,pay-paid,laidbutplaid.
Now I surely will notplague you
With such words asvagueandague,
But be careful how youspeak,
Say:gush, bush, steak, streak, break, bleak,
Previous, precious, fuchsia, via
Recipe, pipe, studding-sail, choir;
Woven,oven,howandlow,
Script,receipt,shoe,poem,toe.
Say, expecting fraud andtrickery:
Daughter,laughterandTerpsichore,
Branch, ranch, measles,topsails,aisles,
Missiles,similes,reviles.
Wholly,holly,signal,signing,
Same,examining, butmining,
Scholar,vicar, andcigar,
Solar,mica,warandfar.
From "desire":desirable-admirablefrom "admire",
Lumber,plumber,bier, butbrier,
Topsham,brougham,renown, butknown,
Knowledge,done,lone,gone,none,tone,
One,anemone,Balmoral,
Kitchen,lichen,laundry,laurel.
Gertrude,German,windandwind,
Beau, kind, kindred, queue,mankind,
Tortoise,turquoise,chamois-leather,
Reading, Reading,heathen,heather.
This phonetic labyrinth
Givesmoss,gross,brook,brooch,ninth,plinth.
Have you ever yetendeavoured
To pronouncereveredandsevered,
Demon, lemon, ghoul, foul, soul,
Peter, petrolandpatrol?
Billetdoes not end likeballet;
Bouquet,wallet,mallet,chalet.
Bloodandfloodare not likefood,
Nor ismouldlikeshouldandwould.
Banquetis not nearlyparquet,
Which exactly rhymes withkhaki.
Discount,viscount,loadandbroad,
Toward, toforward, toreward,
>>57217957
What the fuck
Whered all the spaces go
>>57217878
>eat, ate, will eat, have eaten, had eaten, will have eaten
The last one is hardly used. 5 tenses? Remebering 5 things is so hard man.
>>57190632
I learned English when I was like in grade 1. I remember being fluent after like a few days just like that.
>>57218346
Jaz jem
Ti ješ
On/a je
Midva jeva
Vidva/vidve jesta
Onadva/Onidve jesta
Mi jemo
Vi jeste
Oni jedo
Can you into declination?
>>57218504
Yea.
Cat
Cat's
>>57218726
mačka
mačke
mački
mačko
mački
mačko
mačkov - cat's
And that's only for the male version of cat.
>>57202837
Gotta love the Yoopers
English in itself is not difficult at all, grammar and syntax are pretty staight forward.
The things that can fuck you up a bit are the phrasal verbs, not because they are difficult in themselves, but because there are so many of them and they can be easily confused if you are not experienced.
>"get down" is different from "get off", which in turn has a completely different meaning fron "go off" or "give off", which is not to be confused with "give up" not "get up"; "blow" has different meanings if you add "up" or "off", and you can get in trouble if instead of "getting off" at a bus stop you "get it off" at a bus stop
And so on. As I said, once you have listened to enough spoken English they come naturally to you and you don't even think about it anymore, but the first times you'll be wondering if a preposition you added might have changed the meaning of the phrase completely
>>57218852
I used to think it was a shame English lost most of its inflection, that inflection expands the mind comparable to how Newspeak limits thinking but now I'm not so sure. It seems the more grammatically complex the language, the more third world they are, Ukraine, Lithuania, et c.
>>57208521
Assassination Classroom
>>57219443
Yeah no, we're not in the third world.
>>57192007
Frankly, I´d rather go to war with France than have any business with streetshitters.
Not sure. Compared to learners from certain other countries, vocab may be an issue.
en: consul
de: Konsul
es: cónsul
fr: consul
gr: πρόξενος
en: revolution
de: Revolution
es: revolución
fr: révolution
gr: επανάσταση
Prepositions are definitely an issue.
>a cat stuck IN a tree
>ON the bus
>IN the car
>saw it ON tv
>saw it IN a movie
etc
There was some self-professed polyglot bitch on linkedin that claimed "native or bilingual proficiency" in English, but there was shit like "invade into" and "some times" in her summary lol
Are English conjugations hard for foreign speakers?
Don't die on me
>>57216460
At least we have only ы, while in English there are 4 pairs of vowels that sound very close to each other: i/J, ɛ/æ, ʌ/ɑ, u/ʊ. It's still better than other Germanic languages, but worse than Slavic languages or Spanish.
