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why do protestants work harder than catholics?
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Because fuck the pope
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>>57121686
The most industrious regions in europe are ,bavaria,austria,north italy...
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Catholics are literally retarded. They chose to cuck themself under some fucking bishop or pope, when they could be a free protestant like all the smart people.
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personally I am a protestant but also a 23 year old NEET who has never had a job
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>>57121686
>got cucked by the protestants
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>>57121818
this 2bh
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>>57121686
>>57121779
>>57121791
>>57121818
>57121818
>>57121827
>>57121853
the most industrioues and productive regions in europe are north italy,bavaria and austria,all catholic
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>>57121818
>>57121869
>Catholics are literally retarded. They chose to cuck themself under some fucking bishop or pope

its not only that, although Vatican milk hugge money. Ive read Webers books and its got smth to do with fundamental Bible beliefs connected to work values
...


>>57121903
and UK outshines them by a mile, not to mention USA
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>>57121903
>moortugal
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>>57121686
it's not only work ethic, it's that generally protestants are more intelligent
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>>57121686
to work hard you first need a work
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>>57121686
Greeks work harder than anyone else in this continent.
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>>57121977
damn, and i thought germans literally can't be funny

good one mate
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>>57121977
> German humor
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>>57121977
lulz
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>>57122015
This isn't a joke you slavic shit.

>>57122027
Germans work on computers. Italians, Turks, Spaniards and Greeks work harder.
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>>57122015
>>57122027
>>57122044
it is actually true. If you weren't uneducated protestant plebs you would know
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>>57122068
t Greek diaspora
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>>57121903
Why are muslims trying so hard to defend cathocucks?
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>>57121977
Why aren't you working in Greece then?
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>>57122064
> Italians, Turks, Spaniards and Greeks work harder.
in the brothels, maybe
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>>57122064
>>57122068
the fluster of the butt, sweet
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>>57121818
>when they could be a free protestant like all the smart people.
so, like satan wanted to be free from God? Nice values you got there pal.
Protestants are not christians, seems evident to me
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>>57121977
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>>57121927
Tell me about the british industry...
Volkswagen,audi,bmw,mercedes,ferrari,maserati,pagani,fiat,alfa romeo,fiat.
All made in those regions...
Tell me about british industries...
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>>57121927
>and UK outshines them by a mile

only London
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>>57122068

Please show me all those infographics that only say how many hours that greeks apparently work and that is supposed to mean something
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>>57121977

t. Yilannous Pilopoppollodorus on vacation
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>>57121977
::::::D
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>>57122015
>>57122027
>>57122044
he's greek
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>>57122087
>>57121968
stupid slavshit

>>57122111
estonia has ass in the name
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>>57121818
This
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>>57122083
>>57122111
I am not greek, and there is no butthurt in defending facts. Greeks work the most hours in Europe.

>>57122141
Why should I spoonfeed you, barbarian protestant scum?
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>>57122064
>Estonia
>Slavic
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>>57122125
First, let me tell you about Alberto Barbosa
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>>57122125
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>>57122112
I am not religious but Protestants are objectively 10 times better than Cuckholics.
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>>57122210
don't worry mate, i took being called a protestant as an insult even more harsh than being called a slav
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>Blah blah look at me I'm such a worker and protestant i'm so self entitled wow le lazy southerner

Bunch of cocksuckers lmao
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>>57121927
>uk
>outshines bavaria
no
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>>57121977
>Greece
>working
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>protestants are hard working t. neet atheist
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>>57122222
>22222
SHIIIIIEEEEEEEET
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Because siesta.
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>all this fucking muslims protecting their cucked offspring
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>>57122112
>Nice values you got there pal.
>Protestants are not christians, seems evident to me

before 20 st, protestant societes were more fundamental than catholics who were considered liberal at the time, now its opossite

>>57122125
>Volkswagen,audi,bmw,

got me there, bavaria is based

mercedes,ferrari,maserati,pagani,fiat,alfa romeo,fiat.

tipical Fiesta Italian philosophy - eithe ultra luxury or pure crap


but tis easy look at HDI and indistry on a global level, prot countries lead the way. you dont have a prot country that istnt 1st world...
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>>57122222
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>>57122268
terrone detected
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>>57122112
>catholics follow a bunch of retarded rules because of "tradition"
>jesus literally spoke out against doing things for tradition and only being religious at face value for others approval
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>>57122239
>I am not religious but Protestants are objectively 10 times better than Cuckholics.
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>>57122210
Russians raped them for centuries. What the Turks did to us is nothing compared to them.
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>>57121927
>uk
>outshines them all by a mile

lmao
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>>57122207
>I work 50 hours a week I swear
They need to wash their bribes
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I get lots of southern European women working in my business, they suck cock for raises lel
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>>57122207
Fucking lazy germans...
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>>57122321
Yes you should really stop doing that
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>>57122343
kek, how can someone be this stupid xDDD
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>>57122365
>has no proofs
>meanwhile Germany has part time work
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>>57122323
>protestant societes were more fundamental
no, they were simply more retarded. Being disconnected from Church tradition and theology, you had superstitious rednecks reading the Bible and thinking they understood shit about what they were reading whereas they were simply oblivious and misguided.
Also fuck off, you are the same ones who use the "catholicism is obscurantist" memes when it suits you.
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>>57122404
Greece has the same IQ as you.
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>>57122432
t. religious mafioso
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>>57122321
cmon man, he was a great man.
Not many such men are talked about in internet regularly.
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>>57122338
fucking lel, got any more Ciao Darwin webms m8?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdCMj7oU6l4
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>>57121686
I don't know if it applies to all protestants but at least in Nordic countries they believe(d) that hard work was what God wanted you to do, work ethic is literally in the religion.
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>>57122453
just proved my point, thanks

(i was talking about you dumbshit)
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>>57121686
Protestantism is the mentality of hypocrisy and self righteousness,puritan christian or puritan SJW nigger cocksucker it doesn't matter,it's the same root
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>>57122207
Most hours worked world wide: Mexico, with 2288 hours/year.
Least: the Netherlands with 1371 hours/year

We do really work hard in those hours though. I can't stand how slow cashiers are in France, Poland, Spain or the US.

Source: https://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=ANHRS
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>>57122409
Warst du schonmal in Griechenland? Wenn eine Behörde dort von 9-16 Uhr offen hat, brauchst du vor halb elf dort nicht aufzutauchen, du wärst der einzige, und nach drei arbeitet da keiner mehr. Es hat seine Gründe wieso dort ohne Bestechung nichts läuft.
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Nowadays,people still believe being protestant affects your way of life...
Do you really think people in protestant countries still practise their religion?
They're atheists...
>Not many such men are talked about in internet regularly.
Yeah,Nokia stopped being talked about in the internet and used...That's why your economy is in recession,but I guess you still have the angry birds industry to help your country
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>>57122409
>it is not true because I say so
go back to Kindergarten

>>57122461
t.paki subhuman

>>57122468
all yours m8
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>protestants

Into the trash it goes
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>>57122505
>the mentality of hypocrisy and self righteousness
That's literally Catholicism. The Lord didn't appoint the pope.
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>>57122522
>>57122465
>Not many such men are talked about in internet regularly.
Yeah,Nokia stopped being talked about in the internet and used...That's why your economy is in recession,but I guess you still have the angry birds industry to help your country
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>>57122261
>tfw protestant slav
am i subhuman now
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>>57122491
Greece is richer than Estonia. This proves that you are stupid to us.

>>57122516
Ich wurde hier geboren.
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>>57122556
Richelieu sided with the Protestants. Based leader.
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>>57122534
fuck I should learn how to make them, CD is a goldmine

>>57122511
>we do
>we

lel
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>>57122522
I can't wait for finland to go the way of greece tbqh
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>>57122565
right, he actually appointed a literal shit-eating monk who couldn't keep his penis in his pants, amirite?
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>>57122432
>no, they were simply more retarded. Being disconnected from Church tradition and theology,.....

so that is why so many Italians emigrated to USA the moment they had a chance?

protestant countries before reformations were irrelevant shitholes compared to catholic France and Italy and ended up running the world few centuries later, just deal with it

based Luther desu

>>57122475
>but at least in Nordic countries they believe(d) that hard work was what God wanted you to do, work ethic is literally in the religion.

can I get a quote?
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With regards to the definition of the word "protestant", European Mainline Protestantism tends to be a lot more liberal than American Evangelical Protestantism. Mainline Protestantism used to be the majority of Americans, but since the second half of the 20th century, a lot of them have switched to Evangelicalism or gone irreligious. That being said, throughout this period the US has had a slightly lower GDP than the whole EU.

So, while religion might have something to do with GDP, it's not the only thing.
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>S&P ratings
Literally lowered Poland's ratings right after the new government took power, before it even did anything
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>>57122534
don't reply to me shitskin
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>>57122625
Okay, you got me there....
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>>57122522
atheists from countries that used to be protestant still hold the same values that were manifest in protestantism, that's the whole reason it became to be adopted over some lazy ass shit like catholicism
it's not about a specific religion, but the tendencies of people

>>57122588
how did that happen? aren't you supposed to be orthodox or something?

>>57122597
you're digging your hole of reason so deep i can barely hear you anymore
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>>57122630
No, he didn't.
Luther nor Calvin claimed that they spoke for god.
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>>57122112
>Protestants are not christians
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>>57122569
nah we imported our own barbossas, just look how well portugal has been doing.
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>>57122655
>US has had a slightly lower GDP than the whole EU.
Which has the bigger population
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>>57122673
>says the fucking atheist from a country that was destroyed on the northern crusades by northern catholics...
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>>57122597
>>57122409
>>57122064
>>57121977
>t.German who roleplays as Greek
Fuck off, you are pathetic
I am a real Greek diaspora, don't get ridiculous
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>>57122625
indeed it is

>>57122650
>non sequitur: the post
if you think England or the USA were successful because they were protestant you are literally one of the most retarded people on the planet and should kill yourself

>>57122700
I can play that game too

>>57122706
I was right then. Go back to your brown shithole ahmed.
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>protestants
>anglos
>north europeans
Holy fuck I can't stand this thread I'm out
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>>57122728
>Says Alberto Barbosa
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>>57122706
you stole this from me you britshit
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>>57122725
I dunno, population of Finland is 5.4 million tho so suck my dick i'm more rare than nigger flags from some shithole.
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>>57122660
t.mehmet
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>>57122673
Don't know why, protestant slavs actually exist, even though they make up like 2% of the population
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>>57122788
don't reply to me syrian scum
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>non catholics

Ah yes very impressive
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>>57122728
>says the country that didn't exist 60000 BC
that, is the level of your banter here, imbecile
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>>57122747
γαμήσου
Look how they insult our country. This is the true face of Europeans.
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>>57122785
REKT
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>>57122650
>can I get a quote?
I do not get this from a goddamn quote it's common knowledge. But I went ahead and googled it for you and there is literally a wikipedia page for the protestand work ethic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_work_ethic

>The Protestant work ethic (or the Puritan work ethic) is a concept in theology, sociology, economics and history which emphasizes that hard work, discipline and frugality[1] are a result of a person's salvation in the Protestant faith, particularly in Calvinism, in contrast to the focus upon religious attendance, confession, and ceremonial sacrament in the Catholic tradition.
>The Protestant work ethic is often credited with helping to define the societies of Northern Europe, such as Scandinavia, Latvia, Estonia, the Netherlands, Germany and Switzerland. Germanic immigrants brought their work ethic to the United States of America. As such a person does not need to be religious in order to follow the Protestant work ethic, as it is a part of certain cultures.
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>>57122725
Indeed the population difference is a facor, but we could get into the whole "muh per capita" thing to back up my point, which is that economics is based on a whole lot more than religion and population.
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>>57122700
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>>57122658
>We will fuck over german companys that invested in poland for years for being german companys
>why don't you trust us anymore?
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>>57122725
USA has the biggest population in the world
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>>57122758
>if you think England or the USA were successful because they were protestant you are literally one of the most retarded people on the planet and should kill yourself

If you really cant connecte the WASP and Protestantism you are a nigger...or seriously delusional

>>57122856
I know that, try harder if you can
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>>57122630
>monk who couldnt keep his penis in his pants

t. catholic priest in the midst of doing a rectal exam on a 9 year old boy
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>>57122806
Italians are Anatolians not us.

>>57122822
I'm Greek you Germanic rape-baby.
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ITT: Gullible people who believe in the tooth fairy.
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>>57122919
why would I "try harder" when I've just shown you that I'm right
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>>57122934
t.anatolian

>>57122919
you are an ignorant faggot, I am done replying to you. Study a bit of history, geopolitics, and how economics work and maybe you'll be able to get your head out of your ass
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Protestanism is a religion with alot of horny priests...
Seriously,protestant priest are allowed to fuck,that's why only the unfaithful and unholy and sinful served protestanism
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>>57122957
you ever see the malkovich movie? well, this is kind of like that, welcome to the mind of the retard. have fun!
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>>57121686
Just wait for Poland pls. Poland will set new standards for the catholic world
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>>57122934
>greek calling others shitskins
I have seen everything now
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>>57122658
kikes always use the economic choke on their rivals to force them into submission.

Silly Polak

But the good news is western economy is so fucked and debt ridden to the point this bubble is bursting.So they cannot come down as hard as they did on germany, it's simply not the same age.

Kikes know it, it's why they've desperately pulled off 9/11 in hopes of at least securing their little homeland in the middle east before shit hits the fan eliminating as many of their enemies as possible....of course with the hands of the goyim

Dont worry polak, just do what you do and dont let the kike extort you. Nor fall for their trickery


oh and arm yourself and prepare to fight for your own freedom and property. They will attempt to take both . :^)
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>>57122990
and catholic priests are fucking little boys right at this moment
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What the fuck are you people even on about?
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>>57122988
fuck off you shitskin

>>57123028
Poland is the shittiest catholic country in Europe. Fuck Poland
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>>57122919
>being successful with earthly matters means protestantism is true
If you knew shit about christianity you would realise it is the exact opposite
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>>57123052
And?
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>>57122837
I know
But why do you care ?
It's uninteresting pham, I only care for the rest of Meds, Nordcucks will be non-existent till the end of our century (I hope the Anglos survive, the only people that don't lead such naive policy on regional and internationale level)
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>>57122758
>equating tradition based on Biblical truth with some pagan shit introduced by following popes
>thinking that faith doesn't breed works
>thinking that all Protestants want female priests
>thinking that spirit is physical
>thinking that priests are literally equal to Jesus Christ himself
>thinking that Protestants don't practise baptism
why am I even replying?
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>>57121686
Catholics are idolaters.They dont understand humility. It's pretty straight forward m8.
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>>57122913
per capita not by weight

But it would be funny if the total summated weight of the American population was the highest in the world...
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>>57122957
>why would I "try harder" when I've just shown you that I'm right

I know you are right Jurgen, Ive read Webers work on this topic but it wasnt a good enough explanation of the differences

>>57122988
>you are an ignorant faggot, I am done replying to you. Study a bit of history, geopolitics, and how economics work and maybe you'll be able to get your head out of your ass

You thick headed dumbass, the first major works of sociology and economy acknoledge what Ive jsut sadi and what is pretty obvious to anyone
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>>57123033
Italians are like Greeks. If we are shitskins you are too.

>>57123094
fuck off you faggot
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>>57122913
>>57122793
DESU, the whole EU, not each individual country, has the bigger population.
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>>57123124
Not really,greeks are just turk rapebabies...
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>>57123075
>Germany
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>>57123174
fuck off you nigger
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>>57123097
kudos to that protestant Pole poster!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhM7OUpJ64c

thanks for the images from the last time we talked

t.
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>>57122934
>Italians are Anatolians not us
>I'm Greek you Germanic rape-baby
Sry to say lad, but you seem like an underage newfag to me, you will learn who is an ally on /int/ and who is not
Protip, stop insulting Italian bros, they are literally the only people that care for us till today
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>>57123195
<3 u too
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>>57123052
And since you're a finn you probably wish to be in their shoes (the kid's)
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>>57122384
I know right? Southern woman are just whores without any moral values
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>>57123124
Are you literally stupid ?
I know you are some Muslim fag in Germany tha has his fun while ''bantering'' us, fuck off Abdullah
Oh yeah, and nice googled word you had there in your previous post
Suck some pigglet dick
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>>57123097
>tradition based on Biblical truth
that tradition is only in the Church. That is why the "biblical truths" of protestantism are all different among it's 30000 different denominations

>thinking that faith doesn't breed works
Well, sure, if you are delusional and you never left your room you could think that having faith will automatically breed works, too bad it doesn't. Also what if it doesn't breed works? In your theology you will go to heaven anyway. And what about demons? They believe in God, but they don't do works, and they are not in heaven. Both faith and works are required.

>>thinking that all Protestants want female priests
Still, protestantism is the only place where you'll find them. So you are saying the Holy Spirit failed only selected sects of protestantism? How can you then distinguish which one has the inspired interpretation? Oh right, you can't, because you are all wrong

>>thinking that priests are literally equal to Jesus Christ himself
Never said that. What they can do, they can do because Christ gave them that authority. Not hard to understand if you are not retarded

>>thinking that Protestants don't practise baptism
way to miss the point

>why am I even replying?
because your conscience is trying to tell you that you are living a lie


>>57123113
yeah? which ones? tell me all their amazing title m8.
>thinking there is one sociology
>thinking there is one dicipline of economics
KEK
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>>57123075
Hey you little scum, soon you'll be overrun by muslims, so better already start being nice to your future overlords
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>>57122618
>sided with the Protestants
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>>57123075

germans are scum that should have all been exterminated from east to west.
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>>57123189
>shitskin moortugal gives his opinion
Lick my hairy orthodox ass you catholic subhuman. Your pope knows hot to do.

>>57123239
fuck off you are a cuck

>>57123387
>>57123456
i'm greek you slavic subhumans.
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>>57123097
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KV6PXSODgE

The Bible proves the papacy m8
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>>57121818
>smart people
verrader please...
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>>57123512
Is the pope washing greek people's feet?I didn't know greece was it that harsh situation...
Do you need a bath little buddy?
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>>57121927
Based Croatia
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>>57123512
mehmet fuck off, stop pretending you are a Greek
Go pray to Allah or some shit you chink-eyed Mohamedanian
Greeks don't hate the Europoid Race
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>>57123512
>i'm greek you slavic subhumans
Oh, sorry for being rude. Being Greek is a reason enough to be angry, I pity you
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>>57123568
yes and you need to lick my orthodox ass to come to heaven or you will burn in hell you catholcuck
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>>57123368
>Well, sure, if you are delusional and you never left your room you could think that having faith will automatically breed works, too bad it doesn't.

if you believe actually had faith in Jesus you would have realized how dead wrong you are

>And what about demons? They believe in God, but they don't do works, and they are not in heaven.

they werent offered salvation on the first place


>>57123525
>The Bible proves the papacy m8

what about Papal infalibility?
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>>57123636
Greeks are superior to Slavic subhumans.
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>>57123556
>Verrader
The Catholics were the ones betraying the kingdom tbqh
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>>57123645
>MOORTUGAL
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>>57123368
>your conscience is trying to tell you that you are living a lie
Jesus Christ you're pathetic and so is your church
so much of self-righteousness, yet so little proof you have any reason to be like this
the Bible, literal Word of God has disproven many of your lies you base your whole faith on, yet using wicked logic you're trying to justify your heresies
church tradition? don't make me laugh. one man tries to convert some pagans, makes some shit about Mary or a so-called saint to fit their beliefs, and calls it church tradition. absolutely pathetic excuse
I'd rather have a million of denominations disagreeing with each other than one that is wrong and lead by opportunist madmen without any respect for the truth, morality and future of Christianity
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>>57123512
no one gives a fuck about the white mentally ill cocksucker

Even the vatican is sick of these barbaric which mentally ill cocksuckers
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>>57123640
>if you believe actually had faith in Jesus you would have realized how dead wrong you are
nice sentence devoid of any sort of argument. Are you even trying?

>>57123640
You obviously have not watched the video. Watch it m8, perhaps it will open your eyes.
In regards to papal infallibility, it was always belief of the church even though it wasn't ratified black on white (you know, the traditions that you protestants rejected based on "muh feelings", A lot of things, included papal infallibility, were then made mandatory to believe (another example would be immacolate conception).
This video will explain to you why your conception of papal infallibility is wrong:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcge7eppKo4
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>>57123645
>Nolabortugal
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>>57123766
TURKS ARE SUPERIOR TO U FUCKING GAYREEKS AND SLAVS
TOP KEK
NE MUTLU TÃœRKÃœM DIYENE
WE WILL COME FOR YOU, EUROPE IS C.UCKED
KILAFHA INSHALLAH
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>>57123836
>no one gives a fuck about the white
You slavshits aren't white thats why you don't care.
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>>57123645
a lad in a poor country carves out a wooden dildo and sells it for 1 money
a lad in a rich country carves out a wooden dildo and sells it for 100 money

is the lad in the rich country more "productive"?
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you mean the same homosexual gayreeks that lost most of their territory and are being fucked out of exisatence

yeah clearly superior to us
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>>57123645
>if you work longer hours your work productivity is also inferior
:)
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>>57123916
Sorry but we don't fuck our asses anymore. This is for Catholics who fuck little children in their catholic asshole :)
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>>57123525
oh yeah? and how does it prove throwing all of the Scripture into the dumpster, replacing it with idolatry? how does it justify one man dooming all Christians with his foolish views and decisions, not only here, but also in the final judgement?
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>>57123913
at least the one from the rich country say's "pay me 100 or just stick it up your ass"
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>>57123959
FUCKING GAYREEK KEKS HAHAH
WE WILL FUCK YOU

MASHALLAH; ALLAH WItH US
WE WILL KILL YOU ALL
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>>57123972
sensible kek, but nevertheless the point is valid imho: measuring productivity in gdp created is ignorant
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>>57123833
>hurr durr I am right and you are wrong, your facts and logic hurt my feelings and show me how wrong I am, therefore I reject it without any argument against them!!!
also nice insults there, very christian of you.
>I'd rather have a million of denominations disagreeing with each other
It doesn't matter what you would rather have, what matters is what Jesus wanted. But you base your beliefs on earthly wishes and fulfillment, typical protestant attitude.
>than one that is wrong
You have not been able to prove that, and I have actually showed you how wrong you are on all the things you mentioned, so no
>and lead by opportunist madmen without any respect for the truth, morality and future of Christianity
Well these are just baseless insults from someone who's go no arguments
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>Catholics on full damage control even after their pope was kissing african muslims feet
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>>57123368
>>57123640
>Well, sure, if you are delusional and you never left your room you could think that having faith will automatically breed works, too bad it doesn't.

continuing on the previous....why is Jesus needed in the first place if you can work&faith yourself into salvation?

what is the role of Jesus? or to be more precise why not only works?

>>57123851
>In regards to papal infallibility, it was always belief of the church even though it wasn't ratified black on white

if anyone, Paul himself was the Alfa of the first church not Peter, and he rebuket Peter in Galations.

NOT ONCE IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE IS SOMEONES INFALIBILITY MENTIONED AND ESPECIALLY INFALIBILTIY BY POSITION

show me yourself where Im wrong dont just like to 20min videos
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>>57124076
shut up croatcuck. Everything you wrote makes no sense at all.
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>>57123964
>how does it prove throwing all of the Scripture into the dumpster, replacing it with idolatry?
None of that ever happened
>how does it justify one man dooming all Christians with his foolish views and decisions, not only here, but also in the final judgement?
It doesn't justify it because it simply didn't happen. You are a victim of satanic deception my friend. Your non-sequitur arguments clearly show it
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>>57124076
Protestant brother, our beef is not with the catholics, it is with the döner
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>>57124136
>>how does it prove throwing all of the Scripture into the dumpster, replacing it with idolatry?
>None of that ever happened

What is the vatican and hundreds of thousands of mega churches
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>>57124136
>>how does it prove throwing all of the Scripture into the dumpster, replacing it with idolatry?
>None of that ever happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhM7OUpJ64c [Embed]
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>>57124076
>continuing on the previous....why is Jesus needed in the first place if you can work&faith yourself into salvation?
Faith = necessary but not sufficient
Work = necessary but not sufficient
Faith and work = necessary and sufficient
>why is Jesus needed in the first place
That is the "faith" part, that allows you to accept the ultimate gift from Jesus.

>what is the role of Jesus? or to be more precise why not only works?
Because faith without works is dead, and works without faith are nothing but filthy rags. Unless you think you can go around raping and genociding people and go to heaven anyway because you have faith, or that you can be a perfectly moral and upstanding atheist and go to heaven anyway. Both don't make any sense.

>>57124076
>if anyone, Paul himself was the Alfa of the first church not Peter, and he rebuket Peter in Galations.
That is partially adressed in the video I linked. Papal Infallibility does not mean that the pope cannot say something wrong. He is human. Stop putting your ignorance on a subject forward as if they were facts, research an argument before spouting bullshit. Start from the videos I linked you.
>show me yourself where Im wrong dont just like to 20min videos
I have been telling you why you are wrong for many posts, but you obviously don't want to see the truth if it comes from my mouth. Therefore research those argument with the help of the material I gave you. Maybe the voice of your mind will be able to convince you, but open your mind first.
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>be catholic
>think you can bribe your way into heaven
>give a mortal man religious authority equal to God himself
>DUDE BEATIFICATION LMAO
>mfw
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>>57124164
tell that to Catholics and their continuous hostility towards Protestant beliefs
as well as their permissiveness to moral decay and Islamic conquering
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>>57124433
>catholcucks on suicide watch
Orthodox will shine
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>>57124430
>Papal Infallibility does not mean that the pope cannot say something wrong. He is human.
then what does it mean?
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>>57124200
>Churches are bad
*tips fedora*
>megachurches
that's an american protestant thing. Cathedrals are places of worship to God

>>57124242
Not an argument. Mary has a special place as mother of Christ and the only other human except Christ to be born without original sin. She is even mentioned in Genesis, she is the woman that breaks the head of the serpent.
>a woman and a child existed in the past
>OMG MARY IS TOTALLY COPYCAT OF THAT
that is how retarded you sound
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>>57123913
thats not how it works
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>>57124761
yes it is, refer to your own map legend
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Imma just going to leave this here
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>>57124621
Gen 3:15
>15 I shall put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; it will bruise your head and you will strike its heel.'

offspring=HE=Jesus

Jesus was the one who striked the serpents head
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>>57125044
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>>57124621
>*tips fedora*

Nice argument. The Vatican's existence is proof of Cucktholics idolatry and vanity. When people pray to saints as demi-gods more than Jesus Christ you're no longer a monotheistic religion and pure heresy.

>mfw Catholics will burn in the eternal fires of hell
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>>57124621
If Mary was special enough to deserve being worshipped, why don't you worship her mother as well?
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>>57125083
that was fast, normally it takes at least 2 minutes before obama is turned into a muslim
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>>57125160
or Moses, Abraham, Izaiah...
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>>57124621
topkek

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/10/california-megachurch-crystal-cathedral-gets-new-name-as-it-changes-to-catholic.html
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>>57124471

>permissiveness to Islamic conquering

Which is taking place precisely in Protestant countries, so I say inshallah.
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>>57125458
>tfw muslims in Indonesia are coming to christ in droves through protestant churches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KITAYQ3gvBc
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Also

>worshipping the whore of Babylon
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>>57125044
Wait, Victor Orban is protestant?
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>>57125458
Yeah but Catholic countries are already heavily mixed with arab conquerors alread.That's also why they are poor and corrupt. Protstants have something to protect to least. Your pope literally kisses muslims feet saying you are brothers with muslims:)
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>>57125655
yup but his wife is catholic
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>>57124800
if you're the same lad earlier in the thread calling the german thick that is ironic
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>>57125753
the irony is lost on me, care to explain?
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>>57125797
take your time youll get it
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>>57125815
no i really really want you to explain it. i'm literally begging for it right now.
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>>57125856
fuck estonia
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>>57125815
wait, can you do it in /balt + ..., i have to run out for a moment to stock up on beer

or if this thred is gonna stay alive then here, i would like to continue this discussion briefly

>>57125928
FUCK. YOU!
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>>57125952
slavic subhuman
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>>57125624

>muslims converting

That has to be pagans, or hindus or whatever the ones being baited into the Lake of Fire awaiting all heretics by the Eternal Protestantjew
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>>57125972
finugric*

>>57125989
too much for your head to wrap around that we are actually succesul in converting the sons of ishmael away from their satanic cult? Just take it in one at a time, maybe you will one day accept it is better for all christians to work together to slay the beast of Mecca together than to argue amongst each others.
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>>57125458
except that other Protestants doing something don't influence me
but what your Pope says, influences you and other Catholics directly
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Because catholicucks suck popes cock all day along instead of working.
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Protestants shook the fibre of Croatian society with innovations brought to the common people
They were "from the people" and this is why Croatian reformation succeeded in one hand, despite protestant influence fading from our society (under central Viennese pressure). From translating Glagolitic, Latin and Cyrillic texts, to bringing the printing presses here, polemizing with other Europeans, actively participating in courts of our CATHOLIC landlords, they spread knowledge to the common man, instead the nobles/patricians and such. Wherever we had German merchants, reformist ideas spread fast and people adopted them
Protestantism would not help this country now, but then, it was necessary and I think had we adopted it before, we would be a more well off nation now. Protestant influence is more outlined in the example of Slovenia. It left a deeper imprint there
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>>57125267

Catholicism begins with Mary and Jesus desu. The 'gonna-kill-you-all-with-fire-you-disgusting-sinners' God of the Old Testament is for Protestants, Jews and Muslims too.
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>>57126834
>Protestantism would not help this country now, but then, it was necessary and I think had we adopted it before, we would be a more well off nation now. Protestant influence is more outlined in the example of Slovenia. It left a deeper imprint there

true, slovenes were more influenced, you can still see it today in their craftsmen and similar work, and better work ethic.

but it was very improtant for our identity within A-H empire also. Bible translations were key in forming every national identity (as opossed to empire "identity") including Croatian since it was the basis for national language which Catholic Church held in place during the A-H (that is why Stjepan Radić was "anti-cleric") so we own to Protestants far more than we think despite being 90%+ Catholic. our loss...
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Catholics are absolutely disgusting.
Dirty fucking Shitalians and Irish shitted up America with their degenerate religion and opened the gates for the government to label even more shitskins as "white" like sandniggers and spics.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSif77IVQdY
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>>57127576
>Protestants post Biblical truths
>catholics post le funni maymays
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Religion is the greatest bullshit ever invented by man. No matter how much you throw "le ebin fedora maymay" at me, I will never stop being an atheist. Religion belongs to the Middle Ages, not to our modern world.
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>>57128250
>has cross on flag
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>>57121686
Slave mentality, you work to live, you don't live to work.
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>>57128363
>implying anyone in the Netherlands actually believes in God
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>>57128431
I do, not everyone here is the same.
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>>57128250
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>>57121686
They don't. Eastern Hungary is the poorest region in this shithole.
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Daily reminder that Protestants are responsible for:

>Dividing the Western World and encouraging centuries of bloodshed against fellow Christians, distracting Christendom from its true enemies of militant atheism and Islam, instead of trying to reform the Church
>Witch burnings
>Editing the Bible at will due to their feelings to justify any of their actions
>Demonifying the Inquisition through the use of lies and propaganda
>The concept of Faith Alone, leading to cold, heartless, and degenerate societies who place no value on good works
>The concept of predestination, whereby none of your good acts on Earth matter and if you don’t believe in their disgustingly heretical version of Christ called "Jaysus" you go to hell
>Keeping the American South a backwards shithole for more than two centuries in stark contrast to the much more developed and wealthy Catholic regions
>Contributing less to charity than Catholics and even some atheists, now and in the past
>Encouraging massive amounts of immigration from third-world countries and cultural Marxism (Sweden, UK, Denmark)
>Prohibition
>Westboro Baptist Church
>Creationism
>Megachurches
>Worse than Catholics, Jews, and Muslims when it comes to sexually abusing children
>Faith healing
>The anti-vaccination movement
etc.
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>>57129219
here's your>>57129219 now fuck off
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Catholics are pedophiles. Fuck them pigs. Orthodox way best way.
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>>57129312
>see a protestant on fire
>offer him the proven tradition of water from a hose
>he spits at me
>tells me he has a relationship with water of his own
>hoses are heresy
>faucets are not in the bible
>everyman is a fireman
>mfw
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>>57129219
you should have been a stone age gatherer, you are the best cherry picker I have ever seen.
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>>57129469
Blueberry picker*
Runs in the blood.
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>religion
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>>57121686
Because catholic countries except Poland are lazy fucks?
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>>57129971
Actually it's Austria, Ireland and Poland
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>>57127576
>>57127576
>>57127576
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>>57129577
>dude the universe was just created out of nothing lol that makes sense
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>>57130282
>dude I don't know how the universe was created so i'll just say it was an invisible sky daddy lol that makes sense
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>>57122828
isnt ppp useless
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>>57130516
so like uhm.... there was this like big bang? and stuff? totally happened on it's own no god involved and uhm... then matter started being created and stuff... but uhm... not living matter...so then these like planets were formed and uhm... our earth was like totally accidentally correctly aligned with the sun? Oh and this planet jupiter is like precisly in range to stop asteroids from going to the earth which is pretty convenient, of course that is all just like coincidence and stuff youknowwutImean? So then there was this uhm... dead matter that became living matter somehow, it's all science stuff and then this matter evolved from prokaryotes to eukaryotes by themselves, like mag...no evolution and uhm.. then we came

shoot my weed is done, you have a light man?
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>>57130516
>gaytheists imagine God as some "sky dude"
literally kindergardener-tier intellectual capacity lmoa
right next to YECs
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>>57130794
That doesn't make sense

>>57131061
>I perform more complex mental gymnastics than you therefore I am correct
Spare me out of your sophistries
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>>57131178
>That doesn't make sense

no shit sherlock
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>>57121686
>2016
>not being orthodox
you're all heretics
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>>57122207
How much you work a week doesn't matter when you're not being productive with the time you spend at work.
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>>57131264
Your argument doesn't make sense, that's what I meant. it's a literal strawman, I didn't claim big bang was what created our universe in any of my posts. You were just being retarded there.
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>>57131375
so like the uhm... big bang did not create the universe. it was created when uhm.... albertor barbossa? he like uhm... created the universe and then became like portuguese... it's science stuff

then what do you believe? If it is not the big bang than what? I actually am theist but believe the big bang was the work of a deity. If you do not even believe in the big bang what is left?
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>>57121686
Most of the prostestants here, on /int/, aren't even hard working. They are just lazy neets. And most cuckholics here probably don't follow any tradition. They all just take pride on other people's achievements.
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>>57130516
makes more sense than "LOL IT JUST CAME OUT OF NOWHERE"
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>>57121686
>hard working
yes, northern ireland is full of hard working welfare recipients...
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>>57130034
And Australia.
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>>57131495
The big bang theory is the closest to a logical consistent explanation of how our universe came to be. But we still can't know for sure.
>but believe the big bang was the work of a deity
Believing a deity created the universe still doesn't justify organised religion. I never argued against the possibility of such a thing.
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>>57131529
Makes more sense for you, not for me.
Just because it makes sense doesn't mean it's reality.
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All these religious and atheist nutcases arguing

You can't know anything about how everything was born, why are you fuckers telling me that you do
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