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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/mar/29/falkland-islands-argentina-waters-rules-un-commission
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>>57069130
>UN's opinion mattering on anything
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Try and take em back cunts.
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>>57069130
Is it time for falklands war 2: electric boogalo?
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more like argentina is in the falklands water

or in the real world just because youre nearby something doesnt mean it should be yours
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>>57069130
>UK hold onto the island for most of it's known existence as a populated place
>Argentina has no rational claim to the island besides "it's near us" and uses the island as means of distracting the populace from the real problems since their government is garbage
>Argentina invades the island unprovokingly, UK humiliates them and reconquers it immediately
>Referendum demanded by foreigners
>Referendum has 99% of the population vote to remain with the UK
>UN wants to be as partial as possible to the poorer country in every single situation
>hurr durr obviously this incapable and corrupt gauchofest controls the waters around an island that was never actually theirs.
This is the most autistic dispute in history.
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I've seen a stark lack of argentine posters today. I think they're scheming something.
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>>57069130
Its a UN Commission, not the UN itself. It can say a lot of things, but this doesn't mean they will be enacted upon by the UN at large or through vote.
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Why were there so many suicides in Falklands war on both sides?
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>>57070005
Because being anywhere close to Argentina is depressing.
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>>57070005
Watching your friends burn alive on blown up ships probably messes you up a bit
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>>57070005

Because the Falklands fucking suck. It's grey, it's shitty, it's cold. It's like a giant fishing town.
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>>57070068

This too.
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>>57069840
We're laughing at brits muh war posts
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>>57069840
oy vey shut it down
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Too bad the uk have completely disregarded this shite.
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>>57069840
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>>57069130
That fucking does it.
Put the Anglo Band back together and time to go on tour.
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I cant wait for the war to start, so I can end my shitty existence.
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We'll listen to this like we listen to the pope
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>>57071200
GiB back to Argentina please
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>>57071200
I lost my knife for the meat boludo, can you give me your opinions? they are very edgy
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>>57071124

Alright lads, lets kick some dagos around a bit
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>>57071263
...gib south America please. Manifest destiny. plz. :[ . Think how awesome it will be when you don't have to self govern.
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I like Argentina, you are strong
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>>57070078
it's got penguins though
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Just give the Falklands to Bolivia, they will finally have coast and you can solve two major South American disputes with one stone
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>>57072042
>give bolivia one billion barrels of oil
"no"
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keep me posted lad
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>>57069130
Yeah yeah.
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>>57070078
Yes but it has penguins with nice eyebrows.
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>>57072042

>mfw Hong Kong used to be Bong Kong

1997 worst year of my life
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>>57070078

>It's grey, it's shitty, it's cold.

Brits should feel right at home then.
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>>57072728
>tfw lost proud colonial flag and ended up with
>A FUCKING FLOWER
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>>57072733
>Brits should feel right at home then.

Well duh, they do.
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>>57072580
ESOS PINGUINOS SON ARGENTINOS
PINGUINOS ARGENTINOS
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>>57072728
CHINESE OUT!
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when's the last time the argies fought a war?
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>>57072728

Eh, we didn't have much of a choice.

Even if we tried to squirm out of our treaty (praise upon Perfidious Albion), the Chinese would have make life for the Hong Kongers a nightmare.
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>>57073013

Man, must be shit being someone famous in the army. Like bet he gets bullied all the time about how he's familiarized only with comfyness and expensive trips to rich places.
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>>57073013
Based Gurkhas.
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>>57073322
there's lots of posh officers in the british army. I'm sure the banter is heavy though
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>>57073453

Yeah, i don't see him being "respected" inside the army for the things he done there.
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>>57071200
I think the Argies are going to make you listen whether you like it or not, bongboy.

Yous arent as strong as yous were during the first war.

The Argies would steamroll over yous and land in the UK to make you pay for both wars.


So yous better start listening to them, or UK will get wrecked
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>>57073595
>The Argies would steamroll over yous and land in the UK to make you pay for both wars.

I have no reaction image to do this justice
well played, poland, well played
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>>57073595
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>>57073130
The Chinese were ready to go to war over Hong Kong man, there was no scenario where you would have held onto Hong Kong past the treaty
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>>57073595
You're alright, Poland.
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>>57073846

I know, I don't pretend that there was much hope onto holding Hong Kong.

Boy it would be a bloodbath, though, I can see it playing out in two ways, either Alamo/Stalingrad or ending without a shot when the governor of Hong Kong tells the armed forces to lay down their arms to prevent a bloodbath of civilians.
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>>57073595
God bless you poland
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>>57074275
The Chinese would have overwhelmed whatever forces you had stationed there quite rapidly, the sheer numbers they'd flood in would negate any type of advantage you boys had.

I doubt it would even be that bloody other than the forcing the British garrisons to surrender (because who wouldn't when 500,000 Chinks are now storming your city).

From there it would be "okay we own the island, try and take it back from us".
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>>57074389
The island is easily within range of artillery though, so it would be hell on earth for anyone stationed there
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>>57074462
The Chinese government would have wanted to mitigate damage as much as possible, I doubt unleashing salvos into Hong Kong's urban core would play into that economic preservation.
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>>57074389
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>>57069130
Wouldn't there be an exclusive economic zone are around the islands too? Like, creating and Argentinian ring around them?
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>>57074389

I don't doubt it.

Though this had made me very curious on how you would try and hold Hong Kong.

Blow the bridges, entrench into areas that would create extreme collateral damage ete.

Given China's ROE of not wanting to break shit, my guess would be just to starve the island with a naval blockade.
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>>57075069
Last man with a nuclear dead man switch
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>>57075069
>my guess would be just to starve the island with a naval blockade.

Yup, if the British REALLY wanted too they could make land passages into Hong Kong (i.e the bridges and mountain passes) complete hell which would force the Chinks to go by Sea and Air in HK.

From there it would be a race (albeit a losing one) between the British Navy trying to reach HK and the Chinese government trying to crack HK proper before reinforcements arrive.

It makes things even more interesting because the US has a HUGE naval presence only a short stones throw away in Okinawa/Japan, I doubt the 7th fleet would wake up from its slumber though even if things got hot between UK/China.
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>>57071071
W-What kind of bullying schemes are you up to?????
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The Falkland Isles are not a part of the UK, they have their own government and infrastructure, but instead they are what's known as a "British Overseas Territory," wherein the UK is responsible for representing their foreign affairs and is in charge of their defence. This is because the population of the Isles has long been of British descent, and given the history of the Isles, has British culture and history. Not only this, but the Isles have largely been British territory for over 150 years. Further, the some 3,000 residents of the Isles have voted 99.8% in favour of remaining a British Overseas Territory, in 2013. The rights of the Falkland Islanders to their self-determination shall not be infringed, and the land-grabbing aspirations of the bastard Argentine will not stand.
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>>57075229
Thers a war coming
A war for the right of "superpower"
One America must fight
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>>57075267
19,000 landmines, the Argentines left, by the way. 19,000 mines on a tiny landmass with a population of around 3,000. 6 mines for every person. What lovely people the Argentines are! They are sure to respect the Falklanders rights!
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>tfw shitposting friend and banter friend are fighting again.
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>>57075358
Argentina have lived under a variety of dictatorships in their brief and unremarkable history.

They don't understand the concept of respecting citizens.
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>>57075252
i'll let you know soon
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>>57075358
>expecting a nation who at the time was led by a psychotic dictator we installed to act rationally in a war they were actively getting blown the fuck out in
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>>57075358
>the argentine people
it was a dictatorship , thats what happens when u and your allies support foreing dicatorships
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>>57075473
There's no excuse for invading a peaceful little island because of your oil aspirations, Argie.
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>>57075522
>There's no excuse for invading a peaceful little island because of your oil aspirations, Argie
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>>57076039

savage
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>>57069130
now the argens can move their navy closer and around the island and the'll be like 'hey we're still in our waters yo!'
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>>57076039
Explain?
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>>57076039
It's fucking hilarious isn't it.
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>>57076231
really?
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>>57075522
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>>57069130
>UN

Call me when anyone gives a shit about their opinion on anything.
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>>57076288
Yes. Explain how modern Argentina suddenly having an interest in the Falklands islands alligns with recent exploratory oil campaigns?

You people have never had an interest in these islands. They were unnocupied when we first landed there in 1765.

In 1832 you suddenly arrive there and demand we give them over to you, ignoring the British claim that had stood for 67 years. In 1833 we evicted you with no loss of life.

Now, over 100 years later, you are singing the same old tune... bugger off, they're not yours, we know why you want them you poverty-stricken little sneaks. The residents of the Islands wish to remain a British Overseas Territory, have their own rule, and wish to remain that way. In 1982 you invaded them, with no prior warning, and simply expected us to cede them to you. Well you can simply bugger off you cheeky little shits.
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This doesn't have anything to do with the UK though. We just presented documentation on 2009 that under the law of sea allows us to claim more waters.

The UN even said that this legislation doesn't affect areas in dispute, like Malvinas or Antartica.
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>>57076567
shh the uk butthurt its funny
>>57076555
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>>57076555
>suddenly
Argentina has been claiming the islands ever since your occupation of them in 1833.

>They were unnocupied when we first landed
kek
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>>57076555

*sips tea*
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>200 mile exclusion zone
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>>57076657
>>57076678
Cry all you like, disagree with the facts all you like and present instead the official Argie line; it's not negotiable. The Falklanders deserve their right to self determination. And we will make sure that right is respected by Argentina.
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>>57076690
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>>57069130
>This pic

LOS ARGENTINOS NO SON BLANCOS

LOS ARGENTINOS SON CASTIZOS
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>>57076821
As JF's you'll never know the taste of a black tea and milk after a hard day
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>>57076821

I'm drinking coffee btw.
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>>57076800
el INGLES
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>>57069130
Wow so white
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>>57076555
The regime was losing its popularity. They needed to win the crowd and didn't expect the UK to respond.
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>>57071200
Well you should start, you are being taken over by Islam
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>>57076916
I love the taste of milk after an especially long and hard day.
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>>57069130
So what, what are they gonna do about it?
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>>57076903
Didn't you know only niggers and old people care about the islands?
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>>57077009

Why not war us instead?
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>>57077056
Quite a lot of the neighboring countries are supporting the claim, it is a very real threat.
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>>57073846
"We can occupy Hong Kong in two days if we want."

-- Deng Xiaoping
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>>57077143
Big deal. They all sided with Argentina in 82 except for Chile. That did a lot of good, no?
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>>57077143
Okay and then what? What can actually happen besdies them jercking each other's bananas?
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>>57077116
idk although we were prepares in case you attacked us. There are some crossing points in Entre Rios that can be easily blown up to stop you advance
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some UN African called us racist lol
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>>57077197
>Chile

Truly our greatest ally.
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>>57077143
>threat
Is this bate?
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All London would have to do is launch a tactical nuclear strike on Buenos Aires and you're done.
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>>57077336
>tactical nuclear strike

We don't have tactical nukes, only strategic.
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>>57069130
let them come we will fucking bomb the shit out of them
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>>57077392
Whatever works.
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>this thread again
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>>57077260

I know that if we take the Rio Prata, Buenos Aires is fucked.
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>>57077315
They support Argentina's claim to the Falklands now
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I fucking hate /int/
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>>57077412
toca de aca pirata asjkasjkjkas

>>57077456
buliado
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>>57077116
Because that's actually an unwinnable war? Everyone was expecting the argentinians to win in 1982.
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>>57069130
>Implying it's Argentina in Falklands waterd
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>>57077477
Truly our greatest ally.
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>>57077116
Falklands were an easy target in '82. Completely unprotected. British Empire had been disintegrating for decades. Received wisdom was that Britain would continue to lose territory and the RN was too weak to retake the islands

In many ways the UK of 1982 was weaker than the UK in 2016
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>>57077116
That would've been literal suicide, not to mention that we have no territorial disputes with Brazil so there wouldn't be anything to claim.
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>>57077469
You'd have to go through Uruguay
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>>57077412
can you stop thinking about bombing things abdul
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una vela...
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>>57077709
sabe
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P I C A R D Y
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>>57077481
>>57077606

Well, the argies really had a chance desu. If it weren't by them sending only conscripts and having a better strategy.

>>57077615

This>>57077628

Some people here disagrees with Uruguay being independent. Even hundreds of years later.
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>>57069130
MACRI WILL MAKE ARGENTINA BIGGER AGAIN
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>>57077276
>>57077349
>>57077480
>>57077644
You might think you are really cool dismissing every coherent conversation and spaming bordely retarded memes that only a habdful actually understand, but you are cancer to this board and to your country.
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>>57077477
>Implying
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>>57077826
it's just a prank bro
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>>57077826
el 5 a 1 no se olvida NUNCA MAS .-
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>>57077771
The conscripts were kinda irrelevant because once the Royal Marines and Paras got a beachhead on the Falklands, Argentina couldn't have stopped them. Conscripts or not.

Victory for Argentina was possible - in fact it was likely - however it had to happen in the air or in the sea. The quality of that era's Royal Navy ships was NOT good, and Argentina's air force had better fighters than the RAF/Royal Navy
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>>57077392
Nuke Buenos Aires anyway. That also guarantees the moaning about those inbred islands will stop.
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nooooooooo puedo + q buliado q es por DROSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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>>57077826
>2016
>siendo asi de boludo

sinceramente te mereces que te buleen por contestarle a los de /lat/
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>>57077826
>>57078027
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>>57078025

A-14's were better than Harriers?
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>>57078035
Debe de ser uno de esos que le importa lo que las otras banderitas piensen
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>>57078090
Please don't reply to my post ever again.
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>>57078249
Wonder how many of those are actually the same person
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>>57078249
deja de mentir hay como 10 quotes mios
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>>57077826
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the bullied

the bullet >>57078313
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>>57078119
The Mirage IIIs and Super Eternards were superior in air-to-air. Harriers are strike fighters, i.e. for bombing ground targets. They are not manoeuvrable like the Mirages
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LES MALOUINES SONT FRANÇAISES
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>>57078249

Son "turistas", esperenlo"n", en unos meses es uno de ustedes.
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>>57078390

Oh true. Always forget those detalis, so we can say that the Harrier was the F-35 of that time.

Anyway, there's some impressive footage of the war, specially the Exocets hitting the Sheffield.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUZu8bvxJs4
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>>57076555
>Still falling for the oil b8
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>>57069130
Las malvinas were, are and will be argentinians

regards.
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>>57078470
I lol'd
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>>57078555

>Uruguay

Why do you guys always claim shit that aren't yours?
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>>57078035
Not even Argentinian myself, just here for an exchange. Luckily, people in the real world are not like in /lat/
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>>57078470
>so we can say that the Harrier was the F-35 of that time.

Nah. You'd expect an F-35 to do well against the top air superiority fighters of the world today. Some analysts of that time thought challenging the Mirage IIIs with Harriers was borderline suicidal
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>>57078620
el monito cilindrero
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>>57078620
O SUL ES ARGENTINA
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People who live on Falklands want to be part of UK

It doesn't get any fucking simpler than that
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>>57078620
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""PSH"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

anime y duolingo mono pelotudo JAJAJAJ
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>>57069130
UN can go fuck itself, especially after bullshit pulled by UNHCR.
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>>57078651

I see, but what britain had at the time besides the Harriers? They only brought Harriers?

>>57078655
>>57078695
>>57078703

gib back cisplatina.
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I think the UK should just rename the Falklands to Las Malvinas to annoy everyone
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>>57078699
throw me the gum rufian
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>>57078830
>gib back cisplatina.
No, you give back Santa Catarina and the rest.
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>>57078906
Gib back Búzios
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>>57078830
>I see, but what britain had at the time besides the Harriers? They only brought Harriers?

28 Sea Harriers and 14 Harrier GR3s. That's it, just 42 Harriers.

Against a total of 122 Argentinian fighters, with the advantages of proximity and being on the defence.
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>>57078906

>No, you give back Santa Catarina and the rest.

It was never yours.
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>>57078953
Only if you stop ocuppying Bariloche
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>>57073371
last time round the some Gurkhas were extremely because they couldn't have the blood of Argentine forces flowing through their fingers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA7Uf6fP1Vg
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>>57078978

Oh well, they really were shit then. How did they tide of the war turned?

Sorry for asking too much, never really paid attention to the conflict.
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>>57078999
just give them back RIO GRANDE DEL SUR ES ARGENTINA
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>>57079035
pass me the repe
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>>57079030
Yo mean Braziloche
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>>57079100

No :^)
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>>57078555
should be 'or my gf's son' with brazil on top 2bh
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>>57079035
>Sending your Niggers to fight for you
After all, we are not so different
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>>57078830
>gib back cisplatina
uruguayans don't want to be part of you why do you think we have the suns and almost the same colors even the people talk like us
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>>57079293

Why do you think people in the Falklands have the union jack in their flag and people even talk like them.
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>>57079030
N-No!!!
>>57079035
Kek, manlets, when will they learn?
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>>57079063
>How did they tide of the war turned?
That's what makes it an interesting war. Because the ARA were not shit, they were skilled and respected by the British side, but they were let down by logistics. They didn't have air-to-air refuelling so had to operate at the limits of their range once they lost the Falklands airbases. The British Harriers had good missiles and skilled pilots who figured out how to engage the French aircraft in a way that minimised their effectiveness.

But for the British the difficult part was fielding this taskforce so far away in a hostile area for an extended period of time. It was almost impossible. It would have been completely impossible without the other territories like Ascension Island to form part of the logistics chain. The airbase on Ascension became the busiest airport in the world during the war.

I think the Argentinian side was taken aback by the speed and aggression of the British forces, but that was the only way to win because a couple of weeks longer and the small British aircraft carriers would have been out of fuel and would've had to withdraw
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>>57079356
Because the english expel the argentines living there and put his own people
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>>57079471

I see, not so long ago i watched a documentary about a operation that involved almost the whole Air Task Force of the british side, with a few Vulcans and other planes for refueling.

One of those Vulcans had to land in Rio.
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>>57079684
>with a few Vulcans and other planes for refueling.
You seen their refueling plan? Fucking madness but it worked.
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>>57079684
Yeah that operation is famous because of pic related. The Vulcan is a short-range tactical nuclear bomber designed for a single purpose: to fly really fast from England to Russia and nuke Moscow in an aerial first strike.

The British military top brass knew the psychological effects of seeing (and hearing - the Vulcan's scream is quite a unique sound) these coming towards you. They could carry hardly any conventional weapons and had a short range.

So this elaborate refuelling plan was devised in order to get the Vulcans to the Falklands and if possible bomb Argentine positions. If you look at this diagram, you can see why one had to land in Rio. A lot could go wrong.
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>>57079949

Yeah, take a while to fully understand, but impressive as fuck, WWII-tier operation.
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>>57079971

Yeah, they took the Side-Winder missile that was with the plane. Which is was crucial for us to start building missiles.

Looks almost the same.
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>>57079949
they really thought they stood a chance against one of the great european powers
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>>57080414
To be fair, the UK was in a bit of a decline, at least in terms of overseas territory, since the end of WW2. It's easy to understand why they assumed it would be a winnable war.
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>>57080414

They did really.

By all reason we should have lost.
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>>57080414
Me rompiste los posters de wanda!
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>AAAAJ posts get deleted
/lat/ingas on suicide watch
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>>57080414
They did stand a good chance. We didn't deserve the title "great European power" back then.

Today the situation is better but leaves a lot to be desired
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>>57069346
>or in the real world just because youre nearby something doesnt mean it should be yours
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>>57079971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh-9uZjg1Tg
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>>57081811
Vulcan was a beast.
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GOD SHIT OUR GREASEOUS QUEEN
GOD SHIT OUR FAGGOT QUEEN
GOD SHIT OUR QUEEN
SHIT HER FECALIOUS, FAGGY AND URINEOUS
LONG TO SHIT OVER US
GOD SHIT OUR QUEEN

OH LORD OUR GOD MASTURB
SCAT HER WITH ENEMIES
AND MAKE THEM WIN
CONFUND HER POLITICS
FRUSTRATE HER NAVIOUS TRICKS
ON PISS OUR FACE WE WIP
GOD PISS US ALL

DEM SHITTIEST DICKS IN ARSE
ON HER BE PLEASED TO INSERT
LONG MAY SHE EAT
MAY SHE DEFEND THE JEWS
AND EVER GIVE US NUTS
TO STUFF OUR ASS AND FACE
GOD SHIT THE QUEEN
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>>57084631
wtf i hate argentina now!
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>>57084631
Forgot pic.
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>>57085352
3SPOOKY5ME
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>>57085352
delete this now you fucking prick
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>>57079471
The Argentine pilots also fucked up by dropping bomb while flying too low to avoid the anti aircraft fire. A lot of bombs that hit their targets didn't detonate.
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