What exactly are "Western" values?
This board rants on and on about Islam being incompatible with Western values. Well, what are the requirements for compatibility?
Freedom of speech? Most European countries impose absurd restrictions on free speech.
Rational policy making? Half of America votes for candidates according to how much they (profess to) love Jeebus.
Freedom of religion? The "patriotic defenders" of Europe are the ones who want Islam banned and Muslims either forcibly converted or expelled from the continent.
What are these so-called Western values you cherish?
>>57040861
Individualism and tolerance.
Including tolerance of intolerance.
Allahu Akbar btw
Become a muslim, go to a muslim country and publicly decide to commit apostacy to find out.
>>57040861
faggot
>>57041021
>Individualism
>Western
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome
See also: the prevalence of socialist policies in Nordic countries.
>>57040861
Pork sausage, alcohol and not fucking 9 year olds.
>>57040861
Pluralism, Humanism, and Liberalism.
btw fuck off ahmad
>>57041114
It's not all or nothing, Muhammad.
>>57041170
>Pluralism, Humanism, and Liberalism
>Israel
>>57040861
Western value is whatever fits them. For example one day they will support democracy the other they they will help coups in other countries to choose the leader they want
At least these people used to have a religion called Christianity now they are free like sheep waiting for the next big power to shred them to pieces like in the medieval times. I bet there will be gay and feminist separatists just you wait
>>57040861
Education, Free Thought, Free Speech, Freedom of Religion, Protection of human rights, Social mobility, Democracy etc. etc.
>>57041126
8 years ok?
>>57042167
>we advocate for freedom of thought, speech and religion
>btw ban islam, put jihadi apologists in jail and kill all extremists
>>57042353
Muslims declared war on us. So we should return the favor.
Okay, which diaspora are you?
Is this Algeria, Afghanistan, or Iran talking? Or are you the Canadian convert?
Capitalism
>>57040861
Human rights, Democracy and Solidarity
Radical interpretation of Islam is as much the enemy of these values as are right-wing extremists
I don't believe the former is powerful enough to destroy them. That can't be said about the far-right though
European culture belongs in Europe, any argument that a middle eastern religion has any place inserting itself like a parasitic worm into the rest of the world is pure cuckoldry.
>>57042899
And cuckoldry is the thinking mans fetish
>>57042765
Why?
Because France, Western country with the highest proportion of Muslims, has 7% of population originating from Muslim countries. That's the maximum of support for Islamists.
Far-right has much higher potential. More people in the West are susceptible to this ideology
>>57040861
Money
>>57040861
>What exactly are "Western" values?
Like faggotry, feminism and interacial sex. I don't see any other difference from eastern europe.
>>57040861
We want Islam to go, because it's in itself a fascist believe. It's a trap and more like a sect, if persons who belong to it or are born into it have no choice to leave or decide for themselves. Also, it's written in the Quoran that you are allowed to apply violence against people who believe differently.
>>57040861
If you come from a shithole and don't want to integrate, turning the country you're in into the same shithole you came from, then you're incompatible.
>>57040861
Expressing are self.
Believe what ever we want.
Earn money.
Buy shit.
Eat shit.
And, not dressing 9 year old boys up like girls, and fucking them.
>>57043794
>And, not dressing 9 year old boys up like girls, and fucking them.
Greeks aren't western?
>>57040861
freedom of speech
secularism
women rights
human rights
their political system is based on representational democracy.
repuplican system of goverment.
atheism and secular humanism
So far muslims fail at women rights, democracy, freedom of expression, not using a republic as form of goverment.
but the biggest one is secularism.
you can't have both a sharia state and secularism.
>>57042353
islam put restrictions on freedom of though, speech an religion.
>>57043899
most european countries are not secular.
>>57043971
they're still more secular than even the most secular muslim country.
when America rules its vassals
>>57042353
Did you miss the part where I said protection of human rights?
>>57044028
how can something thats not secular be more secular than something thats not secular?
might wanna look up the definition of the term.
>>57040861
Freedom and equality bretty much
Europe is losing it doe, from both the leftie side (no freedom of speech allowed) and the righ wing (no muslims allowed)
>>57044079
The right to privacy?
>>57044028
I'm gonna take Barrio chimp for 500
>>57044152
sorry but I define secularism as the separation of state and religion.
care to enlight me about why they're not secular?
having an official religion doesn't not mean they're not secular.
It's mostly just that they're not white European, but there's also the fact that people aren't secular. I think most euro posters would rather have secular Muslims like Bosnians and Azerbaijanis than theocratic ones but don't want either of them.
>>57044271
>I define
you define jackshit.
if you have a state religion you are not secular.
when you allow religious institutions to apply their own laws, you are per definitionem not secular.
most european countries are not secular.
>>57044271
>separation of state and religion
Literally does not exist in the UK and the Scandinavian countries.
>>57043867
Greeks didn't dress them up, they went in raw
>>57043867
No.
>>57044171
exactly, that's why western countries like France fight the eternal Anglo's desire to rule the world
>>57044718
lel
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/03/french-parliament-penalise-smartphone-makers-over-encryption
>>57044152
Don't try to distract Ahmed!
desu stormfags seems to have much more in common with the average salafist than with the rest of Europe.
>Retarded post that apologizes for islam
>Canadian flag
What a wild fucking surprise.
>>57045459
pretty embarrassing desu, especially since there are a lot of canadian posters for some reason
>>57045498
Canadian posters seem to either be shitposters or shitskin diaspora talking about how much better their mother culture/race/religion/country is.
>>57045173
Nothing to distract from
free speech doesnt exist in europe too
most newspapers self-censor themselves and work together with the government
hate speech can get you jail
ask an american what he understands under freedom of speech
europe has monarchies too
a lot of his points were flawed
the only point where i'd agree upon was human rights.
>>57044393
>>57044474
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_state
>check wikipedia
wtf niggas.
pretty much every non arabic country is secular.
wtf
>>57046185
no, I was replying to the german faggot who said most european countries werent secular.
>>57045999
>argentina
wat
>>57040861
islam is not secular
>>57041744
This
