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Why is nobody having kids and birth rates and fertility are declining
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Why is nobody having kids and birth rates and fertility are declining in the West and Eastern Europe?
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same reason it's declining in asian countries. ease of access to education, ease of access to contraceptions, lack of strong religious tradition that says be fruitful and multiply.
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Saved this from the other day. Everyone keeps telling you guys to stop being fags, but... you just won't.
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Feminism basicly. Marriage isn't worth it anymore for men because it can totally fuck men up in case of divorce. Divorces are much more likely than 100 years ago, you have roughly 50% chance of divorcing while child support and alimony completely favours women. Another thing is the decline in the number of marriages. The current economy raises somewhat artificially the opportunities and resources for women, and this compared with the natural instinct of women to aim for a partner of a higher social status results in all the women competing for the top 20% of men, thus all the hordes of single people, both men and women.
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#regrettingmotherhood
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>>56873126

Weak pussy faggot argument
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Lack of religion, individualism and consumerism.
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>>56872084
Because kids are expensive, not only in terms of money, but in time spent as well.

It's ridiculously difficult to have a stable job while also raising a child
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>>56872084
lack of black chicks tbqh
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>>56872719
>are ver feminine
I guess that is mean "cute". Cute Dutch boys!
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>>56872084
Because who needs kids anymore amirite hahah lads
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>>56874240
whiteknight argument
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I blame feminism which is driving countries like finland into homosexuality and also the eternal merchant
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>>56872084
Because women are finally free from males' oppression.
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>>56873126
so why can't we just fuck in wild abandon and have kids oh right abortions. ah well, that's too bad. hopefully robots will take the place of humans in the coming decades
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>>56873126
This
And older generations keep bickering the younger generations about why they dont have a house, is married, have a kid on the way and a car with their mason job, all at the age of 19.
Fuck this world.
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Rip white race
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>>56874809
>>>/reddit/
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Women our generation are stupid.

Cost of living has gone up through the roof.

Jobs pay like shit if you intend to start a family.

Good luck trying to buy a house.
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>>56875192
>le reddit is that way xD
Dræb dig selv
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>>56874314
>It's ridiculously difficult to have a stable job while also raising a child
>>56875284
>Jobs pay like shit if you intend to start a family.
I thought you guys have a lot of special social and job programs to support families and encourage people to have kids.
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>>56873126
Except it's happening in Muslim countries too.
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>>56872719
>Dutch guys are femin
>Goes out with a nigger shorter than her
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baby boomers on suicide watch since the current and coming generation cant pay for their mistakes anymore.

fuck humanity in general
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>>56872084
Morals have changed. People here will argue saying it's the economy more than morals but economy has shit to do with birthrates. Different people from different countries are having the same problem. In Russia high birthrates among Russians are in the south where so-called "Kubanoids" live: highly (regionally) patriotic rednecks who think they are the centre of the fucking country. It helps though. They preserved something we lost.
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>>56875148


If this is true then damn, the prophecies are correct

bible says in the end times women share bear very few children.
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>>56875403
I think women in Niger have something close to 8 children on average now.
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>>56875148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSUIQgEVDM4
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>>56872084
>Why is nobody having kids and birth rates and fertility are declining in the West and Eastern Europe?
The spermatozoa aren't reaching the ovum and fertilizing it. And sometimes the zygotes are discarded.
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>>56872084
Can barely afford to keep myself alive, let alone support a family.
White people tend to be more sensible with their money and weigh up cost/benefits.

Non-westerners just breed without thought.

I mean, not that I'm defending how it is in the west. It shouldn't be so hard to afford to raise a family, but that's the way they want it to be
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It's ok because the based Catholic flips and latinos keep procreating and giving us SEA/latina qts
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>>56875403
Only in Muslim countries that are wealthy enough to provide education and jobs and gibsmedat for women by the state.
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>>56874589
>driving countries like finland into homosexuality and also the eternal merchant

Says the person from the NATO country that swallows the eternal meechant's cum daily and has a 1.3 brth rate vs Finland's 1.87.

Who's the faggot now?
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>>56875580
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>>56874809
Dunno about Denmark.
But my parents actively try to dissuade me from having children. They had me when they were in their early-to-mid twenties, but simply put, there's no money for anyone in my generation to start a family. Salaries and wages are calculated to set you up with exactly the amount of disposable income that keeps 3/4 of people happy. But you can't start a family on that little money. Starting a family in this economy is financial suicide, and you're almost certain to raise a kid who will grow up with less than you did. And I don't see why I should force a kid to live that life. I don't want to start a family if I can't take care of it.
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We should all become ultra religious jews to preserve the white race
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>>56875487
What you're saying is that the social structure/support system doesn't incentivize breeding in the west.

Our perception of individual success in any westernized community is "PhD, 300K starting, 0 babies, 2 houses and 3 automobile", which isn't achievable with toddlers roaming.

This is what ppl here should address instead of muh pol-tier buzzwords like feminism, homosexuality and jews. It's the religious obligation (and subjugation of female partner) that ensure even developing countries countinue to procreate
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check this wiki out folks, literally everywhere on Earth will experience falling total fertility rates come 2050. Europe, North America, Australia and East Asia were just the first to fall
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>>56875924
>forget to post actual link
American efficiency
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate
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>>56875700
Not to mention that ultramaterialism is way bigger than before
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>>56875924
The ultimate happening unfolds in biblical proportions

HEY WONKA I WANT OFF THIS RIDE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X48RiKQmFQ
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>>56875730
>jews
>white

Nice meme Ibrahim Abu-Abbar
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>>56876064
I said we (white people) should convert
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>>56876111
t. Mohammad !'Matumbo Zlotywicz
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>Live in London
>Regularly see fat Somali women waddling around pushing prams with four or five little kids in tow
>Meanwhile young white working couples somehow don't have any money at the end of the month after bills and rent

How does this work?
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Having kids is risky. First you have to find somebody who shares your ideals through a sea of people indulging in hook up culture. Then you have to figure out how to care for the child and bring money in during the formative years. All the while trying to maintain your marriage with all the outside temptations and pressures because now there isn't a social obligation to keep marriages together when times get rough.


That being said I still want to have children, preferably 2-3.
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>>56875383
We do, but it doesn't matter when you have to work all the time for them while managing the children when you come home. Part of the reason people could have larger families in the past was because the husband worked while the wife stayed home. Now that the woman is expected to work as well, you don't have as much time to raise the kids well.
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>>56875978
>>56875924
By 2050 there's nothing left of the planet anyway, it'll be an endless ghetto of pooinloos, nogs and muslims
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>>56876257
The young white people are working to pay for the somalis welfare
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>>56876257
socialism, someone has to pay for the breeders

so it may as well be the hard working white ant. :^)
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>>56872084
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL1-340ODCM
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Countries with highly educated populations and access to modern healthcare and contraception, as well as wealthier countries show decreased birth rates.

High birth rates in 3rd world countries stem from lack of sexual education, shorter life expactancy/higher infant mortality, and a very different labour landscape.

Its not >muh feminism or Zionist conspiracy, it's basic demographics.
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>>56876257
They work to pay for those who don't

But that's ok because you can also become a leach :^)
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>>56872084
Money>Family the only true answer.
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Just reading the multitude of excuses in this very thread answers the question quite sufficiently: they don't want to.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFyIzoBwXVk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpVwBzFAkw

I haven't heard any more comprehensive explanations to the subject other than these.
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>muh career in humanist studies
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>>56876344
nigga this shit is global

add to the the global climate is getting warmer we see new and old mutated viruses in stronger form reaping people left and right.


i-its like, someone wants us dead and gone!!!

Rabbi are you up to your dirty tricks again?
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>>56876257
>Somali women

lmao did you check their passports or something

They were probably just British you were probably mistaken
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>>56876257
Nigs are used to being poor and can more efficiently live on a shoestring budget.
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>people on 4chins
>bitching about birth rates

kek
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIO9WxNlHHY
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1) Feminism, specifically women in the workforce

2) Widespread contraceptions

3) Low religiosity

4) High abortion rates
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>>56876513
Because globally, more countries are becoming developed. Rich, educated countries have always had lower birth rates than poor, uneducated countries.

Though I guess being from Poland you wouldn't understand the concept of education or not being poor
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>>56876518
Lmao you're right, silly me, it IS 2016 after all.

#openborders
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>>56876650
>It's a canadaflag

>feels disgusted and repulsed
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girls are compulsory schooled
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>>56876696
>it's a polish flag
>couldn't even afford a tricolour
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downsizing for when we, white people, all emigrate to Mars soon and leave the non whites fend for themselves
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>>56876650
That's a false correlation.

Moldova is literally Africa-tier according to most indices, and yet has one of the lowest fertility rates in the world. Moldova is also quite religious.

However, unlike most African shitholes, Moldova has women in the workforce, contraception and widespread distractions such as television, which are proven to reduce birth rates.
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>>56876653
>t. Anglo Saxon invader

Normans should have closed their borders to you racists desu
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>Westerners don't have children because they can't afford it
>Non-westerners breed like rabbits yet are poor as fuck
I don't get it
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>>56877071
the less you have, the less you actually need
third worlders are not concerned with paying the bills and education
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>>56877071
Bullshit. People from Christian culture just changed their minds.
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>>56872084
Because we have been told for years and years that kids will ruin your life. I'm a 20 y/o and my entire life people have told me what a bad idea it is to have kids.

Plus, when you live in a developed world and you are educated, you realize that there are things you can't do if you have kids.
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>>56876518
A dog born in a stable is not a horse.
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>>56872084
>Why is nobody having kids and birth rates and fertility are declining in the West and Eastern Europe?

But it isn't true m8. Check any statistic, and you will see that it's only Germany that has a fucking low birth rate.

My own country has 1.9 kids per woman, and France has 2.0.
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>>56876982
>Implying I'm English

LMAO
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>>56872084
>wanting to even touch a 3dpd thing
Disgusting
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>>56877475
You realise 1.9 is below replacement level yes?

Also France and the UK's birth statistics are void since they're boosted by Muslims and Africans.
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>>56877401
>t. Henrique O'Shanaughan Kristoffson-Balakay Walking-Horse
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>>56877607
>You realise 1.9 is below replacement level yes?

Sure, but it's close to being replacement level. As far as I know replacement is 2.1.

>Also France and the UK's birth statistics are void since they're boosted by Muslims and Africans.

So what? The OP didn't mention "saving muh white raec XD"
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>>56876960
Moldova is still richer than African shitholes though.
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why the fuck would you want to have kids
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>>56875580

> He thinks he has a future.
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>>56877701
moldova is still richer than SOME african shitholes*

fixed that 4 u pham
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I would rather kill myself than raise kids, reproduction is the fastest way to ruin your life. I'll probably get a vasectomy before 30.
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>>56878668
the way I see it, you can kill yourself right now
it's of no difference to me when will you die since you will never have any spawn
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I'd gladly have 12 kids but no woman wants anything to do with me.
State mandated gfs when?
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>>56878752
Why should I care if it matters to your life? I intend to fully enjoy my time alive, and kids are an impediment to that.
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>>56876422
women can't do shit without men allowing them to. Soft cucks are the root problem.
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>>56876960
It's still a developed nation, however destitute and awful it might be.
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>>56876341
Hilarious movie, but also genuinely terrifying because I can really see this happening.
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The more I learn about history and the state of the world today the less interested I become in contributing to the survival of humanity.
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Here is the answer:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1644264/

Or, in poem form:
http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_copybook.htm
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>>56872084

Birth Control.
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