How come Western countries don't have cool military parades like this?
>>56817976
The shitier the country, the bigger their military parades are.
>>56817976
>1970s Soviet APCs with a new paint job
I'm really quaking in my boots at China Stronk.
Our countries don't fight with our militaries. We fight with our intelligence agencies.
Shitty countries like China do this as a way of awing the masses about the government's power. The PLA for instance has always been a state rather than a national army.
Being proud of your nation is not allowed in cuck countries.
Fucking blue
>>56818104
OVO
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>>56818546
this
>>56817976
That "victory over Japan" parade was hilarious.
>China actually doing jack to expel the Japanese
>implying they didn't simply pack their bags and go home after surrendering to the US in August 45
>implying the CCP was even in control of the country yet in 45
>>56817976
because parades cost shekels
>>56818652
We didn't send a representative (and IDK they offered us an invitation anyway) but holy fuck it was hilarious to see Vlad Cuckin and that South Korean skank president there.
They cost money and only handful countries in west have enough pride in their military to allow them.
>>56817976
>>56819011
> They cost money
> pride in their military
We fail at both fronts and yet we have our own military parades; there is no excuse.
https://youtu.be/eNoxZytJ_NA
>>56818342
SAM TEL
70s APC
You know how I know you're retarded?
>>56819185
That's just to scare Merkel in case she gets any ideas after watching a documentary about the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact after a few too many drinks.
>>56818652
Typical US public school product right here.
Jesus now I know why the poor gets poorer in the US, because the dumb gets dumber
>>56819287
Hi, diaspora. Shouldn't you be helping boil live dogs in your parents' restaurant now, Wong?
>>56819011
>They cost money
Did you also know that the PRC had an annual military parade every year for its first decade, then called them off after 1959 b/c too expensive. They didn't hold another again until 1984.
We don't have military parades per se, but we do have the King parading into The Hague every year with the military. To hold his yearly state of the union, where he talks about what the government is going to do the upcoming year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dHs4W8P0QU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd5s6_mV1k4
>>56817976
You are confusing "western" with cuck countries.
Don't get me wrong, you have a strong military, the problem is that it serves the Jew and Israel. That's why it doesnt protect your boarders.
>>56819836
>where he talks about what the government is going to do the upcoming year
Let in minimum 50,000 refugees for the 2016-17 fiscal year.
Hon hon
>>56819910
Way ahead of you.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dutch-king-willem-alexander-declares-the-end-of-the-welfare-state-8822421.html
>>56818104
3soon
>>56820046
>Hurrrrr why are westerners so cucked, not a grain of pride in their shrivelled souls
>Hurrrrr how dare you have pride, don't you remember how nazis cucked you and we cucked you some more?
>>56820046
>>56819911
Did the roadway on the Champ-Elysees sink or something during the 70 years between these pics? I mean, there's no hill there in the WWII images.
>>56819836
We also have parades with old military vehicles and regiments from different countries on liberation day I believe. And also on remembrance day.
>>56820289
I say Germany is more cucked than France since they've been occupied by us since WWII and they aren't allowed anything but a self-defense force.
>>56818652
>American
>''''''education'''''''
>>56820346
its the other side
Oh well, you know what French history books teach about the war.
>the Resistance singlehandedly liberated the entire country...and all the women who did German soldiers, those were just prostitutes
>>56820363
But that differs from city to city and is usually on a relatively small scale.
>>56820289
Don't pay attention. Don't forget America never won a war alone, even for theyr independance. Thank you tho.
>>56820419
Are there any actual white Australians posting under the Australian flag?
>>56820384
Not true, their tanks are still rolling through our soil.
See? That is clearly a Leopard of their making.
>>56820470
>Don't forget America never won a war alone
You might want to tell Mexico and Spain that. Maybe also the Southern states.
>>56817976
M8 because we are a democracy and anyways we have far cooler military shows/fairs
Have you never been to Fleet Week or an air show?
Finnish military parades look lazy as fuck.
>>56820663
As your whole fucking country, implying you even have an army
>>56820663
Does your military use conscripts for parades as well?
>>56820766
Says the hue-monkey LOL.
>>56820766
Do old photos of his grandpa's platoon holding up a severed Russian head count?
>>56820663
They are just preserving energy senpai.
>>56820845
Insults don't change the fact your country is lazy as fuck and people there get drunk every fucking second due to how depressing it is
>>56817976
because we're not insecure arseholes
>>56818558
iirc the navy paints all of their shit blue
even their land based vehicles for some reason
We have Zapfenstreiche instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VarayMJDDTE
>>56817976
>Rocket launchers THAT pixelated
>Probably rendered on Voodoo 2
>>56821082
And they look like your old shit from the 80s except the paint job. I could swear I saw pics of Brezhnev-era parades with that same exact vehicle.
>>56821082
It's a digital camo dumb slav
We do. It's called Hollywood.
>>56821082
Nah it's intentional retro pixel graphics
>>56821130
THATS IT. YOU'VE ASKED FOR IT NOW.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycRVAcZC5R4
FUCKING SHIT COMMINIST
But China is cool from a long time ago:):):):):)
>>56817976
why blue camo? surely this makes you stand out rather than blend in
>>56821195
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG4PnWtWnzI
>>56821130
>like your old shit from the 80s
Burger, do you even know what percentage of US military hardware was manufactured before 1990?
>>56821197
))))))))))))))))
>>56821255
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I0K8MRWcYw
>>56821225
for hiding in the smog
>>56821082
that's funny
>>56821292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XArPxYnRRM
>>56821266
Our 80s shit was more advanced than yours to begin with also we have substantially more money to keep it maintained and operating properly.
>economy smaller than Italy
>>56821305
kek
>>56817976
because western coutries, through their wreckless imperialism, have fucked themselves out of people with sense and pride in their identity and country.
A kolhoz is built on tyranny, not honor or pride.
>>56821195
>>56821255
>>56821292
Alright you lads fucking asked for it!
>>56821195
That happened apparently because some disgruntled and woefully underpaid bydlo purposely installed the guidance package upside down.
Because western countries are mostly democracies, not military dictatorships.
Is there a more patriotic way to go than this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGlWUFoNsbU
>>56821382
noice
>>56821363
>economy smaller than Italy
Wars are not fought with dollars, my fat friend.
One ICBM worth 50$ million could inflict more than a trillion $ of total economic damage. Think about it.
>>56821382
For a moment I was expecting some incoming explosive Boomerangs.
>>56821450
did he jump infront of it?
>>56821455
It's not gonna do much damage if they can't fire it because rats gnawed through the wiring. :^)
A few years ago I went to the CNE and there was a parade. It was just some soldiers in jeeps or whatever throwing those mardi gras bead necklaces.
>>56821195
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s77cqabHsM
>>56821523
Yes.
>>56821540
Or the personnel at the missile site sold off the wiring because they needed money for Krokodil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1vRZOjdeY8
You know on the Simpsons when Sideshow Bob explodes an atomic bomb and all that happens is this little puff of smoke and it says on the casing "Best if used before November 1959".
That's pretty much Russia's nuclear arsenal in a nutshell.
>>56821622
Funny thing is your ICBM-related personnel is in total disarray while ours has always been the absolute best in all of the Russian armed forces.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/us/air-force-fires-9-officers-accused-in-cheating-scandal.html?_r=0
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/12/19/amazing-details-from-the-drunken-moscow-bender-that-got-an-air-force-general-fired/
>>56817976
we have no money to do this parades, we used to do them every year (2 june)
>>56821701
WASHINGTON (Army News Service, Nov. 4, 2015) -- Russia should be considered the No. 1 threat to the United States for two reasons, its capability and its intent, said Army Chief of Staff Gen. Mark A. Milley.
"In terms of capability, Russia is the only country on earth that has the capability to destroy the United States of America," Milley said here at the Defense One Summit, Nov. 2.
http://www.army.mil/article/158386/Milley__Russia_No_1_threat_to_US/
But of course fat neckbeards know better than US Army Chief os Staff
>>56821820
forgot pic
>>56821826
>military brass are known to exaggerate things so they can get more funding
Duh? They did that in the 70s as well. Shit, the military and the CIA would have preferred that the Cold War go on forever to justify their annual budget. Then Reagan said Nah them Russkies are a paper tiger. We can beat 'em.
>>56819287
>>56820419
chinks did fuck all during WW2, except dying
>>56821918
So is like Kennedy and the imaginary missile gap.
>we have USSR completely ringed with nuclear-armed bombers and short range missiles
>they have during this period about 20 operational ICBMs none of which could reach the US
>>56821918
Sure, sure, sleep safe.
Just don't forget to duck and cover when the time comes.
>>56821918
yet this is how you lie
Keith Brian Alexander (born December 2, 1951) is a retired four-star general of the United States Army[1] who served as Director of the National Security Agency (DIRNSA), Chief of the Central Security Service (CHCSS) and Commander of the United States Cyber Command.
In July 2012, in response to a question from DEF CON founder Jeff Moss asking “does the NSA really keep a file on everyone?,” Alexander replied, “No, we don’t. Absolutely no. And anybody who would tell you that we’re keeping files or dossiers on the American people knows that’s not true.”[2On July 9, 2012, when asked by a member of the press if a large data center in Utah was used to store data on American citizens, Alexander stated, "No. While I can't go into all the details on the Utah data center, we don't hold data on U.S. citizens."1]
On July 9, 2012, when asked by a member of the press if a large data center in Utah was used to store data on American citizens, Alexander stated, "No. While I can't go into all the details on the Utah data center, we don't hold data on U.S. citizens."
Yes, I believe it is in the nation's best interest to put all the phone records into a lockbox that we could search."
—Keith B. Alexander, September 2013
>>56822070
>http://bos.sagepub.com/content/early/2015/04/13/0096340215581363.full.pdf+html
Modern Russia has 311 ICBMs, 160 SLBMs (all with multiple warheads) and 810 cruise missiles, all of which are capable of reaching US mainland. The numbers are transparent because of the arms control treaties and not disputed by anyone.
Yeah, sure it's totally comparable to 1960s situation.
>>56817976
You need to make your military look strong when everything else is shitty. That way the people don't ask why so much money is spent on an equally shitty military.
>>56819287
>Typical US public school
Depending where in this country you are it can be a better education than private school in some backwoods dump. Also, they really didn't do much. We had the flying tigers there, completely drew Japan's focus to us and the Soviets had to come in and start liberating shit. The different factions were pretty good at killing eachother though.
>>56822079
Yeah the entire Western world is quaking in their boots when you could barely even get enough munitions to Syria to support a couple of airstrikes.
I love paid Kreminbots, I really do.
France does i think
>>56822413
>I love paid Kreminbots, I really do
I wish I got paid for talking to fat thick trolls like you. It's kinda amusing at first, but gets old fast.
>>56822413
I love paid Washingtonbots. They look pathetic. Bush started 'war on terrorism' and now there isnt safe country. Obama came with promises of end of wars in Iraq and Afganistan guess what he started new ones. You are failures in denial.
>>56822576
>>56822491
I get it, you know how to use proxies.
>>56822491
>>56822576
lol these cucks trying to be intimidating
>>56822630
I fucking hate cucks like you who think everyone disagreeing with them is a proxy and/or is paid.
Go fuck yourself
>>56822576
>>56822630
ah really? because you cant believe someone have this opinion too or cause they paid you to type so? kek pathetic liers with a butthurt
>>56822683
And now he found a Danish proxy as well. Noice.
>>56822683
He's just a troll.
No one disputes the US have massive conventional superiority over Russia, but in terms of nuclear forces, there is rough parity (although we have an advantage in tactical warheads). The US missile defense currently can't stop a massive russian strike at all.
These are just basic facts that are obvious to anyone with even rudimentary knowledge in this subject.
>>56822780
Check under you bed. Year, right behind the pissbottles. There could be some kremlin proxies there!
>>56822780
>implying everyone is proxy in thread with 40 posters and 102 replies
you lost and you cant do nothing but trolling now
>>56822842
Like anyone's afraid of rusted 1970s missiles that rats probably chewed through the wiring. Putinbots plz go and collect your daily shekel allotment.
>>56820524
>>56820470
Plus native tribes, Algiers, Greek pirates, Joseon Dynasty, the Philippines, etc. Also, why the fuck would we fight WW1, WW2 or Korea alone. You cunts dragged us into the first two and then handed us your pile of shit fiasco known as Vietnam. A lot of our wars were to help allies.
>>56822926
I'd wager to guess each proxy adds one more to the thread IP count, no?
![millionaires-1024x535[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Xcxscn2.jpg "millionaires-1024x535[1].jpg")
>>56822954
>rats probably chewed through the wiring.
Come on, you are repeating yourself already.
>>56817976
for what purpose?
having military is fine, but the parades are pointless.
>they show strength
they show what you have, that can be bad, wether you have good military or not
>>56822996
yes so everyone is so you talk alone here cause you are mad kek
Only shit tier countries where the State rules over the people like a king do these lame parades
pic related is how a democracy shows off its military
this + letting kids ride in tanks
ain got time
>>56823050
they only exist to show the people that the state has all this power over them, its not done FOR the people but for the government
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzFucqDElyE
>>56817976
Because we're too busy naming buildings after Ronald Regan.
>>56818104
First bost best bost
>>56817976
White guilt and naive pacifism
>>56823621
the military in the democracy should serve the people first and foremost, therefore shows should be accessible events set up for the people rather than a display of power over them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dzhCg3NL9Q
>>56823728
>US military
>Serves the people
It sounds very doubtful, as long as we judge the military by the wars it fights and not by its public outreach efforts.
"It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism."
Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley Butler, USMC.
http://fas.org/man/smedley.htm
>>56817976
I took part in a parade when I was a conscript.
Was just sitting in the back of a truck with two other guys.
I participated in multiple marches when I was stationed on an island bordering Turkey.
We also have a military parade in Athens tomorrow to commemorate the Greek revolution.
>>56819185
That's nothing compared to the parades in China and North Korea
>>56823901
it definitely is more so that Russia or China or most of Europe.
the US military bullies other countries a lot but at home its very egalitarian
>>56817976
We do
>>56824058
I never said China or Russia is any better.
But the US is much more hypocritical.
>>56821225
Do you actually think their front-line vehicles are painted this way?
It's a parade.
>>56821918
Ever think they are telling the truth, to get more funding?
>>56824058
because they have almost military police to shoot at them at home lol
>>56821935
65% of all Japanese casualties happened against Chinese forces.
>>56822413
Nice shitpost
When did this thing start anyway where anyone that disagrees with you is a proxy or paid shill of X government/company.
>>56823340
You know that America/Poland/France/Greece/Switzerland/Japan/SouthKorea do military parades annually?
>>56824320
Not same guy but isn't most of Russia's ICBM force comprised of R-36s which were designed in the 60s and are decades old at this point?
>>56824058
>US military
>at home it's very egalitarian
Can you stop telling me how my coubtry is?
>>56824495
>http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/04/60-minutes-shocked-to-find-8-inch-floppies-drive-nuclear-deterrent/
Look, who's talking.
And no, our land ICBM force is better than yours in every conceivable way. You have an advantage in submarine-based missiles, though.
>>56824428
/k/
I'm not kidding. Anything semi pro-anyone other than America is a paid shill or proxy.
>>56824495
No.
Also, ours are the exact same. No one wants to upgun their nukes because it gains nothing.
>>56824495
I think they are. Also the R-36 is a safety hazard because it uses toxic propellants.
>missiles loaded with nasty N2O2/UDMH
>40 year old seals and gaskets
Is a winning combination.
>>56824149
Nah, russian military is literally just putins personal hitman squad. it's a wonder they didn't open fire on all the bad goys who demanded fair elections way back when before russians invaded ukraine.
>>56824645
Sounds like when that Titan II exploded in a silo in 1980 and launched a live nuclear warhead 300 feet. Luckily we retired them before Reagan had left office.
>>56824670
>Nah, russian military is literally just putins personal hitman squad
That's basically what all Third World armies are.
>>56817976
WWII made us cucks
>>56824645
>>56824495
Russia does want to retire those things, but *rubs thumbs together* money...
>>56824645
Our only ICBM's are from the 60's.
>>56824998
Peacekeeper is from the 80s though.
>>56825059
Do you have a single one left?
>>56818104
This.
>>56817976
They have nothing to celebrate.
>>56824830
The R-36 was pretty scary at one time not only because of its size but they did things like MIRVs that we never bothered with. Of course that was then, this is now. Russia's nuclear arsenal is probably quite dilapidated from lack of funding/maintenance since the 90s also they don't have any decent tech personnel left. The guys they had in the 70s are all long retired and not been replaced because of the collapse of the school system since the 90s.
So if they fired those things off, there's no guarantee most of them would even work.
>>56825059
Funny how they don't exist stupid fuck.
>>56824352
police =/= military
desu the Military is much better, the cops are just fat idiots looking for an easy high paying job with lots of undeserved power so they can play soldier.
>>56818104
So we're a fucking military world power then.
We've been updating a lot and our parades are shit-tier.
Wasn't US nuclear strategy mostly based around bombers though? I thought even in the Cold War we had far more of those than missiles.
>>56824529
tell me otherwise then?
from what I see they are pretty populist
>>56825288
I'm gonna have to look that up but I do know that at the peak in the 70s, the Soviet ballistic missile deployment was 2x what we had and they also had more and more powerful warheads.
>>56825220
>So if they fired those things off, there's no guarantee most of them would even work.
FYI we are performing test launches quite regularly.
>>56825220
Want to test that theory out?
You're also ignoring Russia's 10 boomers of which 3 are always on patrol. And those are much newer.
>>56825113
So France is shitty? America? Poland?
Also, Rwanda doesn't really have military parades. Neither does Somalia.
So the theory is broken.
>>56825328
>>56825288
Kind of. Curtis LeMay thought the ICBM program was a joke and they were just toys.
>>56825288
a mix of both but the idea was that bombers are more reliable and harder to guard against compared to a missile
the US had bombers in the air 24/7 and they were trained to do crazy things like fly close to ground level and launch decoys to distract radar.
>>56825368
>And those are much newer.
Newer in Russian terms means "It was built in 1981 and we gave it a new paint job".
>>56825321
They are not. I don't understand what you're thinking.
The US military is a tool of our government just like any other major power. Not too long ago we had half our country secede and the US military made them rejoin by force.
>>56825413
You're post is wrong.
Go talk to Oppenheimer and educate yourself
>>>/k/
>>56825388
Yes but he also said that in 1961 or something when they had LOX/RP-1 missiles that had a roughly 50% reliability rate during test launches.
>>56825432
No as in 3 of the 10 boomers are from after 2000.
Guess how many of ours are from after 2000?
America's military equipment is older than Russia's. This is such a bad argument.
>>56825413
As I said, we had the USSR ringed with nuclear-tipped bombers back then. They did have to rely more on missiles because of lacking similar capabilities though Cuba was used as a base for long range bombers.
>>56825560
>No as in 3 of the 10 boomers are from after 2000
Yep, the new paint they put on them was definitely produced after 2000. :^)
Just finished watching that Brazilian movie Dirty Hearts.
That main character reminded me of myself when I was younger.
Worst thing to happen to him was he lost his wife.
I still haven't killed anyone yet because I'm afraid the girl I like (who doesn't like me back) might leave me
I got played....
>>56825565
>this whole post
>>56825624
Bruh. How can she leave you if she never liked you in the first place. The worst that will happen is that she becomes more indifferent to you than she was before.
Do it. Become an hero.
You have literally nothing to lose.
>>56825603
>>56825565
>>56825560
This entire thread really belongs more on /k/ but I happen to work for a certain defense contractor and I can't say too much but rest assured the US military has some capabilities that would blow your mind. So don't worry about anything; we're not reliant on Vietnam War-era technology.
>>56825286
well tell this to the relatives of the victims of the police violence, probably foreign wars relatives of victims feel same just its made to look more heroic. Also this is kind of military parade by fat idiots then as they are using heavy weapons and military vechicles.
>>56825850
Oh yeah? I just happen to work for a certain design bureau and I can assure you we know about your capabilities and have already developed and tested a perfect counter.
>>56825850
Oh. I always imagined they probably can just do something now like use an EMP pulse to disable the electronics of incoming missiles.
>>56825951
>I just happen to work for a certain design bureau and I can assure you we know about your capabilities and have already developed and tested a perfect counter
My uncle works for Nintendo - the post.jpg
>>56826011
>>56825964
>>56825951
>>56825855
>>56825565
God I love all these fat unemployed armchair generals from /k/.
>>56826011
You were probably referring to >>56825850
>>56825964
Well, that's not the area where I'm involved in but we could definitely do things along those lines if we wanted to.
http://sputniknews.com/military/20130906/183214409/Military-Official-Slams-Russias-Outdated-Technology.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russias-military-is-the-largest-in-the-region-but-it-isnt-the-same-force-as-in-soviet-times/2014/03/10/b3b955b8-a48c-11e3-a5fa-55f0c77bf39c_story.html
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-russian-air-forces-fatal-flaw-13951
lyl
>>56826365
https://www.chathamhouse.org/sites/files/chathamhouse/publications/research/2016-03-21-russias-new-tools-giles.pdf
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/how-putin-made-russias-military-modern-lethal-fighting-force-15315
http://www.vox.com/2016/3/21/11265746/russia-syria-putin
>>56821523
If I remember right he was a WW2 veteran who wanted to do a sudoku. So he decided to jump in front of AA-tank which was driven by some poor conscript in finnish independent day parade. Needles to say that the veteran got pretty fucked up.
Didn't some Indian general complain that they bought a bunch of Russian fighters and half the stuff in them didn't even work when they tried it out?
>>56819224
>sensible chuckle
>>56826501
I thought they had engine issues but I don't remember.
>>56826501
its most probably hoax as medias there used to brainwashed you there. For example you cant tell me one american movie in which russians are the good guys doubt you can find even in ww2 topic one
there was some incident with some of their russians submarine some time ago which was cause by human error i think so:
>expecting indians to know how operate that things as they still cant poo in a loo
>>56825059
They retired those though, didn't they? I could swear they did.
>>56826628
http://thediplomat.com/2016/01/india-and-russia-fail-to-resolve-dispute-over-fifth-generation-fighter-jet/
There were a bunch of problems with the things. See here.
>at least 40 complaints registered by the Indian military about the avionics, engines, and stealth capabilities of the jets
>>56826865
Defense contractor bro here. Yeah they did but the military is adopting newer 21st century nuclear deterrents. The idea of having 10,000 missiles for MAD is a 1960s concept. And by the looks of things, it seems like Russia is still thinking strategically from a 1965 POV.
>>56826951
India has "raised questions about maintenance issues, the engine, stealth features, weapon carriage system, safety and reliability".[37] After repeated delays in the fighter's design and workshare arrangements Indian Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar said in January 2015, "We have decided to fast-track many of the issues."[38] The HAL is to receive three Russian prototypes, one per year from 2015 to 2017 for evaluation.[39]
>>56827093
I assure you, nuclear explosions can roast burgers just as good as they could in 1965.
>>56826365
"“Many defense firms are still not ready for series production of high-tech weapons systems. Many military technologies are still at 1980s levels,” Lt. Gen. Alexander Shevchenko, chief of the Defense Ministry’s Main Armor Directorate, said in an article published in the Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper.
There has been a disturbing decline in the quality of military production, he said, adding that this is mainly due to obsolete equipment and the extremely low pace of modernization.
Another pressing problem is the lack of qualified personnel, especially mid-level managers, he said.
Shevchenko also criticized the defense industry’s dependence on foreign suppliers."
*whipping sound*
>>56827188
Isnt enough just that Kim to make them flintstones?
>>56827302
>>56827188
I wonder for how many more posts this guy is going to use proxies to have a conversation with himself.
>>56817976
Those look like they came out of mine craft.
>>56827211
>Another pressing problem is the lack of qualified personnel, especially mid-level managers, he said.
kek i doubt this is vital for military production. They may steal but states always give for military budget so this is just irrelevant.
>>56827468
No but having 40 year old equipment half of which is worn out and in need of replacement is a pretty big issue also having to buy tons of stuff from foreign companies.
>>56827377
Don't forget to your shrink all about these paranoid symptoms. I am starting to worry for you.
>>56827541
The army also has serious manpower issues because Russia has a shortage of military-aged men due to the crash in birthrates in the 90s, also as many as 53% of recruits are rejected as physically unfit for service.
>>56828200
US has the same problem.
>>56828227
Uh, no it doesn't. We didn't have a catastrophic drop in birthrates in the 90s and don't have poorly trained conscripts most of whom are suffering from fetal alcohol syndrome and have stunted growth due to not getting an adequate diet as children because...
>Yeltsin-era Russia
>food
>implying
>>56828200
>manpower
I bet you would type something completely contrary if it was about China.
>>56828451
you have gays and other things
>>56828462
China doesn't have manpower issues but most of the PLA is recruited from the poorest, shittiest parts of the country so they tend to get recruits who aren't in the best of health or physical fitness.
>>56828648
aha so was with vietnamese, guess what happened
i expected more from you as - we have drones nao, modern wars not using manpower that much etc
>>56828768
>aha so was with vietnamese, guess what happened
You're correct there. The US military in the Vietnam war did heavily draft from the lower classes of society and often ended up with kids who weren't in the fittest shape. It was rather unfair and Colin Powell talks about this in his memoirs how the draft lottery skipped over all the entertainers/athletes/sons of corporate executives who were usually much fitter and healthier than the poor saps from West Virginia or whatever that they'd end up getting.
>>56828451
You have a shortage of healthy recruits. Your army is full of gangs, rape and shit.
>>56829031
We lost 50,000 guys in 8 years of action in Vietnam while the same figure for Iraq 2003-10 was about 3000.
>>56829369
Better training/volunteer instead of conscript army/much better medical treatment for wounded soldiers in the 40 years separating the two conflicts.
>>56829369
As I said you have drones and other weapons, its not same time and what iraqi had except some tanks and few rockets which barely fly to Kuwait? Chemical weapons? That was false.
>>56817976
It's not about western or eastern. In a democratic society you don't waste public money for the compensation of dick length.
>>56818104
it is opposite.
>>56818104
first post - best post
>>56830649
Half of Europe still keep their monarchies and waste public money on their life properties and events, can you go birthday of some Charles with a megaphone and cry out his is compensating of his dick? Cause military parades are ways and times more useful
>>56830755
Glorious GDR parades, feels good. In ten years hopefully again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=729ZMfZf6V4
>>56830577
>>56830577
>Mudslime "preacher" (you know what that means) and his son killed
And nothing of value was lost.
>>56830955
well maybe Mehmet rape babies would learn to shoot with AK in 10 (till then) so no wonder
>>56831101
there are no Mehmets in east germany
>>56820436
I wish, we had a module on "war history" which was basically French bashing for four weeks
>>56830955
Why didn't they put the band to play too?
>>56831213
Lemme guess...African soldiers from the colonies saved you and singlehandedly defeated Germany in both of the world wars.
>>56831283
No, it was basically, "now I know people talk about the resistance, but there wasn't one everyone collaborated and we need to apologise to the jews.
Both the primary sources in the exam were Jewish people talking about the jokes that were made when they got back to Paris (mostly about there tatoos), /pol/ aside that didn't sit right that the entirity of the WWII part of our course was boiled down to Jews.
>>56830955
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od36mGHMfZM
>dat stechschritt
>dat harmonie
uh yeah babe
>>56824495
"Russia's nuclear arsenal - the main deterrent of the Kremlin, which allows him to feel quite blatantly in the international arena.
Moscow is doing everything possible to its nuclear forces demonstrated a willingness to strike at any time, making not only the US but the entire world in the "radioactive ash".
But here's the real state of the Russian nuclear sword away from this terrible way. Missiles made in the USSR, is rapidly becoming obsolete. A system that allows you to see the launches of missiles, destroyed. In the meantime, the US and China are developing latest hypersonic missiles, Russia boasts a "breakthrough technology" that the West has made in 80 years of the last century.
"Observer" understood the real situation with the nuclear sword and shield, and Russia begins a series of publications devoted to this vital topic. In this article we will focus on the state of shock of the nuclear forces of the Russian Federation land-based - the Strategic Missile Forces.
Rusty sword
The Kremlin long and hard to create images of "punishing sword of vengeance" of its nuclear forces. Kiselyov publicized speech advocate that "Russia - the only country in the world that really is able to turn the United States into radioactive ash" - is perhaps the best example of this information policy. However, exclusively aimed at the Russians themselves, who must be confident in the power of his country. But the reality is not so rosy."
Isn't 85% of US history lessons in school just slavery/Jim Crow/Native American genocide guilt?
>>56831515
thats funny as hell kek u cant be serious
>>56831137
soon
>>56824564
>http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/04/60-minutes-shocked-to-find-8-inch-floppies-drive-nuclear-deterrent/
"In a report that aired on April 27, CBS 60 Minutes correspondent Leslie Stahl expressed surprise that part of the computer system responsible for controlling the launch of the Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missiles relied on data loaded from 8-inch floppy disks. Most of the young officers stationed at the launch control center had never seen a floppy disk before they became 'missileers.'"
Uh, wut? These dudes are (I assume) in their 20s and they've never seen a floppy disk when most PCs until about 2007 had them as standard features?
>>56831554
I like the part of annexation of Hawaii
Sounds familiar to your propaganda tower?
In 1893, Queen Liliʻuokalani announced plans for a new constitution. On January 14, 1893, a group of mostly Euro-American business leaders and residents formed the Committee of Safety to stage a coup d’état against the kingdom and seek annexation by the United States. United States Government Minister John L. Stevens, responding to a request from the Committee of Safety, summoned a company of U.S. Marines.
In January 1893, Queen Liliʻuokalani was overthrown and replaced by a provisional government composed of members of the American Committee of Safety. American lawyer Sanford B. Dole became President of the Republic when the Provisional Government of Hawaii ended on July 4, 1894.
>>56824564
>>56831876
Floppies are actually known to be very reliable compared to other storage mediums.
>>56831876
>Uh, wut? These dudes are (I assume) in their 20s and they've never seen a floppy disk when most PCs until about 2007 had them as standard features?
The article talked about 8" floppies. More likely they've never seen anything but a 3.5" 1.44MB disk. Heck, I've never seen an 8" disk or drive IRL either. Even in all the times I saw old computer gear at flea markets and thrift stores, I didn't ever encounter any of them.
>>56832026
Not the common 3.5" disks found on PCs made after 1995. Those things die if you use them more than about 2x.
>>56831876
>most PCs until about 2007 had them as standard features?
8 inch floppies? Not even 5.25 inch which are super old.
>>56832474
The article just said "floppy disks" without specifying the type but I assume >>56832176
>>56831876
m8 you've probably seen pic related on the left, as have I since I still have some, but I've never seen the other two except in very rare cases, certainly never used one.
>>56832026
They may well be reliable and do the job, but you can't deny the technology is absolutely ancient. Is sounds quite funny when americans tell us about our ICBMs being old, at least some of ours are quite new (mostly mobile ones like Topol-m and Yars), all of their Minutemen-III are very very old and neglected.
>>56832511
Take you Ritalin and read the URL.
>>56832558
>but I've never seen the other two except in very rare cases, certainly never used one
>never seen a 5.25" disk
>he's never been to a flea market and seen giant boxes full of Apple II disks with dates like 7/25/83 written on the label
8" disks I'll give you that. Never seen the things except in pictures although my dad used them on a DEC PDP-11 at work in the late 70s.
>>56832605
>Is sounds quite funny when americans tell us about our ICBMs being old
He's not wrong since the R-36 started flying in 1963 only one year after the Titan II (retired from service almost 30 years ago).
>>56832815
Minuteman isn't all that much newer though and I also think it doesn't have near the same throw weight.
>not having parades
>>56832925
Prolly safer though since it's not loaded with nasty propellants that can leak and explode.
>>56832815
http://bos.sagepub.com/content/early/2015/04/13/0096340215581363.full.pdf+html
Check the table at the second page, particularly the column named "Year Deployed"
>>56821197
Would you rather have KMT China
>>56833045
>newest R-36 variant
>initial deployment 1986, three decades ago
>>56833144
It wouldn't make much difference since today's China is basically how Chiang Kai-Shek envisioned it (patriarchal, nationalistic, slightly anti-Western autocracy) rather than Mao's revolutionary utopianism.
Who let /k/ into this board?
>>56833245
Isn't Taiwan "China how Chiang Kai-Shek envisioned it"?
>>56833335
Not at all. CKS was basically a fascist strongman who admired Mussolini's Italy and wanted something along those lines. Taiwan only became democratic after him and his son were both dead.
>>56833542
>>56833245
The present PRC is in fact very much like Mussolini's "corporate state" model.
>>56833686
Italians were probably too disorganised by nature to make it work.
>>56826443
Why did he do this though?
>>56833816
Probably. Also Italy didn't have the centralized, authoritarian political tradition of Russia or China. Fascism doesn't work that well when you don't have people willing to kneel and obey the commands of a god emperor. For example, British fascists like Oswald Mosley were just the butt of jokes. The political traditions and culture of Anglo countries were pretty much incompatible with that kind of thing.
>>56834004
Russians are quite disorganized too, actually. Probably closer to Italians than Chinese in this regard.
>>56834116
Well, yeah. That's why you've never had a government that actually functioned well and wasn't phenomenally corrupt.
