Slavic nations overall relevance through times official ranking:
1. Russia
2. Poland
3. Czech Republic
4. Bulgaria
5. Serbia
6. Ukraine
7. Belarus
8. Slovakia
9. Croatia
10. Slovenia
11. Bosnia
12. Macedonia
13. Montenegro
>RIPip
14. Sorbs
15. Veleti
>>56722363
desu through times, Russia (always important), Serbia (always the 'hold my beer' slavs), Poland (not important but big and gets fucked occasionally in the sheenanigans between east and west), everything else never heard of in history.
>>56722363
>Sorbs
They still exist. Also, ID say you and the Czechs are tied.
>>56722363
>1. Russia
>>56722901
Kingdom of Bohemia? Also, the Austrians were pretty important Slavs.
>>56722901
V I E N N A
>>56722363
Why the fuck you even trying to make this shitty "relevance ranking"? They basically means nothing but can offend people from "irrelevant" countries.
>>56722964
of how much slavs doing something relevant in the history did you hear of? Russia always something, Serbia with their uprisings started World War I and the assasination of our thronnachfolger changed Europe from monarchistic to national states, not that they did it alone, but you hear about them, Poland helped in fighting of Ottomans but that is more their own heroic story than some major european or international relevance. Other slavs I never heard of in history lessons.
>>56722915
>ID say you and the Czechs are tied
Czechs never formed an empire, unless you want to count the times when their king was also a ruler of HRE, but then
>Holy
>Roman
>Empire
>>56723198
We kind of consider helping at Vienna a big mistake these days.
>>56723198
>Other slavs I never heard of in history lessons.
They don't teach you Austrian history?
That's a shame :(
>>56722363
>2. Poland
>he thinks reddit memes make his country relevant
>>56723183
>They basically means nothing but can offend people from "irrelevant" countries
>>56723245
>Czechs never formed an empire
neither did Poland
weak decentralised states with retarded political and administrative systems =/= empires
not to mention the lack of contributions to the world (inb4 muh Copernicus, dude was a German)
>>56723291
yeah I noticed you are very close with the turks, if it weren't for tusk and the polish-turkish friendship the deal with erdogan and EU could never have passed. at least we know where to send the next batch of syrians to.
>>56722363
>Russia
>slavic
Pick one.
>>56723314
sorry slovenia, but you are not part of our history. in all honesty you are considered a marginal slavic tribe without a clear name that was maybe there but was subdued without any resistance.
>>56723400
>inb4 muh Copernicus, dude was a German
This is where you made it too obvious
>>56722363
Montenegro should be above M*cedonia.
>>56723538
>a marginal slavic tribe without a clear name
We were called Kaernten, or Korotan more precisely. Surely you've heard of us?
>>56723344
Who would you put in our place then? Czechia?
>>56723538
>literally half of Souther Austria carries Slovene names
>second largest city in Austria literally comes from Slovene Gradec
>was maybe there
>subdued without resistance
Lel, they really don't teach you history do they?
1. Russia is not Slavic. They are Uralic-Altaic, result of Finno-Ugric and Turco-Mongolic tribes mixing with each other. They lated stole Slavic language from Bulgarians (who are not slavs as well and stole Slavic languages from Great Moravia)
2. With Russia excluded, the rest of "Slavs" are irrelevant as fuck, all of them.
/thread
>>56723885
t.self-hater
>>56723639
>Surely you've heard of us?
No we didn't, sorry
>>56723690
>they really don't teach you history do they?
We do learn history, but not slovenian "history", sorry. You are a young nation, younger than me, so adapting your new interpretations of your own national history in order to create a new national identity is not really something we in Austria are really in contact with.
>>56724166
they used to be a part of you
>>56722363
Poland is Wendish
>>56722901
>Russia (always important)
Except 1300-1700 when Poland was most important of all Slavs.
>>56724325
>they used to be a part of you
yes but they were irrelevant, there were slavs which were more relevant because there were more of them and had a greater impact in the politics
>>56724090
>self-hater
Poles are not Finno-ugric mutt, like Russians are.
>>56724166
>You are a young nation
Lel. Independent nation and people are two different things my uneducated northern friend.
In case you didn't know the current tri-colour was in use during the Austro-Hungarian empire already and was literally officially bestowed by the Emperor as the colours of the Slovenian nation.
Meanwhile Austria is a nation with no ethnic Austrian people at all. You were all Germans not 60 years ago, remember?
> so adapting your new interpretations of your own national history in order to create a new national identity is not really something we in Austria are really in contact with.
It's funny because much of what I told you comes from Austrian historians.
>>56723245
>Czechs never formed an empire
GroB-Moraviums m8
>>56724625
Swiatopełk was a Slovak
>>56724763
Janko what are you doing in Poland
>>56724625
Who was the King? Krtek?
>>56723245
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Karte_B%C3%B6hmen_unter_Ottokar_II.png
how about this senpai? even got the sea resort
>>56724584
you are young nation :3
>>56725262
This was the greatest CzechoSlovenia but the map is retarded.
Top of the list. Kievan Rus'.
>>56724584
>It's funny because much of what I told you comes from Austrian historians.
then instead of banter be thankful, for without us you wouldn't have any history at all.
>>56722363
>official
>>56722363
>6. Ukraine
>7. Belarus
>through times
axaxaxaxaxa
El autiSMO,but I'm in.
Slovenia
Montenegro
Czech Republic
Croatia
Belarus
Poland
Ukraine
Macedonia
Bulgaria
Russia
Serbia
Eastern Germany is Slavic as fuck
>>56725549
>then instead of banter be thankful, for without us you wouldn't have any history at all.
Oh, there's plenty of Slovene historiography on the subject. I just love to point to Austrian ones since people like you can't point fingers and claim Slovenes fabricating anything.
Either way you're only deluding yourselves if they don't teach you about this in school as it's very much a part of Austrian history too, especially the history of Steiermark and Carinthia.
>>56725735
Belarus and Ukraine are arguably more relevant than any of the South Slavic states nowadays. Moreover, Belarus used to be a prominent member of the Commonwealth, even if not mentioned by name, and Cossacks formed semi-independent state in XVIIth century and influenced the Eastern European politics.
>>56724517
You don't know your own history, do you?
>>56725902
>Belarus and Ukraine are arguably more relevant than any of the South Slavic states nowadays.
Relevant in what? How often is Belarus mentioned in international affairs or Ukraine? It is relevant in local affairs yeah, but international ones hardly, especially not in comparison to the South Slavic states.
>>56725784
DAS ROITE
>>56726118
He's an Ukie in Poland. Don't listen to him.
>>56725902
They might be relevant, I don't argue this. But the OP post says something about through times.
Belarus wasn't the member of the commonwealth, it was not the subject of that relationships. It was the commonwealth's territory. There were never either Belarus or Ukraine as countries.
>>56726118
Relevant in living peacefully. Atm only two "relevant" players: Serbia and Russia.
And of course in bad way.
>>56726118
>How often is Belarus mentioned in international affairs or Ukraine?
Lately? Pretty often.
>especially not in comparison to the South Slavic states.
When were South Slavic states relevant after Yugoslavian wars?
>>56726162
Twoja stara to Ukraina.
>>56726192
Well, I put it that way: Historical relevance (forming an empire/strong state, influencing the European/world history) > Modern day relevance > Everything else.
Belarus and Ukraine might not have been relevant historically (although, again, they should be counted as Kievan Rus on par with Russia), but they are certainly more relevant than all the others mentioned belov them in both aspects.
>>56726291
>When were South Slavic states relevant after Yugoslavian wars?
Yugoslavia was the only Eastern European state that told Stalin to fuck off, remember?
It was also the only independent Eastern European state, excluding the soviet union, during the cold war.
>>56726545
That's why I said AFTER Yugoslavian wars.
>>56722363
Montenegro is actually pretty darn based nation.
>born around 16th century
>independence in 1696
>almost never occupied since then despite small size
compare with say belarus
>literally artificial state
>made in 1990
>>56726590
Croatia and Slovenia are relevant enough not to get invaded by anyone due to being in the EU and NATO.
Can Ukraine state the same? Lel
>>56726782
>Can Ukraine state the same? Lel
What instead? Putin or Slobo?
>>56726782
Fair point
Still, Ukraine overally produced more famous people, is bigger, more populous and mentioned far more often, so I'd still say it's more relevant.
TFW Silesian and 4chan gave you a shitty Polish flag instead of glorious Silesian or German
>>56726957
This is offensive to people from small slavic countries.
delet thread ples
>>56726957
>TFW Silesian
>>56726890
The entire metric of relevance is retarded as it can't be quantified. Like I said, Slovenia and Croatia are both more relevant to NATO, due to being in NATO, thus if someone invades us NATO will respond unlike with Ukraine.
Thus I can ask you relevant to what? I'd wager we're more relevant to Austria than Ukraine is, as we have more economic and political ties that are worth more money(just an example).
So in the end, what is relevance? Define it. Having famous people makes a country more relevant how? Just in general more people knowing about you equals relevancy? Population equals relevance?
Relevant in what way.
>>56727431
success breeds jealousy
>>56727511
>a literal COALBURNER
13. thats pretty gud pas ta
>no Austria for the butthurt
Disappointed.
>>56727109
but we are one of the smallest """slavs""" and we are in top 3 easily
FREE SILESIA
FREE THE GUYS
>>56727695
>"""slavs"""
Chechenia is germanic!
>>56727774
Doesn't speak Germanic / = / Germanic
>>56727809
Germanic is literally a language group. If you don't speak germanic you're not germanic.
It's not hard pal.
I wonder how Poland could lose all its power and superiority. Why? For what?
>>56727873
That's what I said anon.
Slavs are literally linguistic group as well.
>>56727914
Geeeeee I wonder whyyy.
>>56727914
East slavs: Russia
West slavs: Poland
South slavs: Serbia desu. Bulgaria lost it's edge when it got left out of Yugo.
No?
>>56728172
>inb4 butthurt Czechs
>>56723380
Wtf, I hate Malaysia now.
>>56722363
Remember tho that Moscow has been only relevant since like XVIIth century?XVIIIth?
>>56729924
Yeah and they made solid friends back then.
With Germans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drn6JVqkSN8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayB5qOfX-RM
We need more of this!
SMERŤ NEPRIJATELJAM SLOVJAN
>>56722363
Serbia is and was and always will be more relevant than Czechs...
They are but a degenerate germanized cucks.
Amiň
relevance doesn't mean anything now
wealth rank:
1. Czech Republic
2. Slovenia
3. Slovakia
4. Croatia
5. Russia
6. Poland
7. Bulgaria
8. Belarus
9. Montenegro
10. Serbia
11. Bosnia
12. Macedonia
>>56722363
1. Czech (they made modern slav culture itself) + Slovakia
2. Poland
3. Russia
4. Serbia
5. Slovenia
>>56722363
1. Russia
2. Bulgaria/ Poland
3. Serbia
4. Croatia, Ukraine
5. All the rest
>>56722363
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Bulgarians, is in fact, Thracians and Bulgars, or as I've recently taken to calling it, masterrace. Slavs are not an ethnic group unto itself, but merely a linguistic group made useful by based Bulgars, a vital group thanks to which Europe exists.
Many /int/ users mistake Bulgarians for Slavs every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the Bulgar group is often called "Slavs", and many of /int/olerants are not aware that it is basically the Bulgarians, a South-eastern European masterrace.
There really are Slavs, but Bulgarians are no part of it. Wends are different, much more civilized and stuff. This is essential for you to realize. Slavs often include Bulgarians, but basically it's Slavs with Bulgars added. All the so called "South Slavs" are really Bulgarians
>>56722363
>8. Slovakia
>9. Croatia
You know Croatia is thousand years old kingdom and Slovakia is recent ruse to steal Hungarian clay?
>>56722901
>enable Austrians to build empire
>not even deserve mention
personal union with Austria, not even once
>>56722363
Russiabo Pole. Very interesting
>>56733498
But that's wrong (I'm assuming it's per capita).
According to the recent wiki data, it should be:
4. Poland
5. Russia
6. Croatia
>>56738357
>You know Croatia is thousand years old kingdom
Aside from Ragusa, they never created any relevant state, always being on leash of Serbians, Italians or Austrians. And modern day Slovakia is more relevant.
>>56738451
Being objective doesn't make me a Russiaboo.
>>56738451
Just take him to gulag already
slav music is best music
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3Go8ub9a1k
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqEnGKFaMOE
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLMx0X8VvD4
Yugoslavs >all other Slavs
>>56741859
excluding bosnia nad slovenia desu
>>56742835
ok rude
>>56722363
>montenegro
>literally never fully conquered by ottomans
>heroic last stands against turks, austro-hungarians and italians
>called "serbian sparta"
>below mackadingdong, tito's fairy tale country
apply yourself
>>56722363
1. Russia
2. Poland
...
9999999999999999. Everyone else.
>>56722363
>>56722363
Ukraine needs to higher up that list. If Russia owns Ukraine or exerts significant influence over its affairs, Russia becomes a superpower.
