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Welcome to Sweden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42jpuXJPk0w
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>>56644133
wtf i hate sweden now
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>USA saves Europe again
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>>56644183
How is like to live in a cuck torn country?
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>>56644133
>Thing take a turn when a local intervenes and drives his mobility scooter into the most violent attacker

HAHAHAHA
WHAT THE FUCK
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
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>>56644133
AND OUR MEDIA DIDN'T COVER IT UP

THEY PUT THE FUCKING LOGO ON IT AND EVERYTHING

USA NO
USA NO
USA NO
USA NO

GET REKT YUROPOORS
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Wow, this totally shocks my unlighted mind, thank you for changing my world view. If only more people on the asshole of the internet would make posts like these i'm sure Europe would finally wake up.
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>Scooter man
God bless
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>>56644133
>a guy in a mobility scooter has more balls than every man in Sweden combined
I sure hope he wasn't violently murdered afterwards.
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>>56646757
America saves the day again
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>>56644133
I don't know what are you trying to prove with this video, but Sweden still looks pretty comfy, it's population is homogeneous and they still have time to safe themselves I know they'll after all they are smart.
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>>56647000
>it's population is homogeneous and they still have time to safe themselves I know they'll after all they are smart.

wut
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>>56644133
>The gang's attention turns when a local intervenes and drives his mobility scooter into the most violent attacker.
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RIP Scooter hero
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>>56646757
>guy in a mobility scooter

was most likely not a swede
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He is Captain Sweden's greatest nemesis
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Someone should go vacation in sweden just to fight refugees.
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>>56647256
He was a Somali. You can see in the video that he's black.
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THE PRICE OF FREEDOM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwR3e2iq9EI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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>>56646757
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>>56647408
Not really. This is the best shot I could find.
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>>56644133

[alarmist elderly kike running for president]Scandinavia is a perfect model for the US.
[/alarmist elderly kike running for president]
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Serious question.

Is the activity that occurs in "no go zones" factored into your crime statistics?

We don't have anything like that here.
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>>56644133
>mfw this is the future of europe thanks to everyone being massive cucks
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>>56647818

Its largely swept under the rug but even despite that they're a majority of criminal offences
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>55 declared no-go zones
what the fuck sweden
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they have officially ended any desire for western tourism...europe is done...looks worse than the tenderloin at 2 on a saturday night...you gon get shanked
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>>56647923
it's just a fancy pc word for ghetto
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Swedes need to go extinct ASAP before they hurt Europe more.
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>>56644183
>>56646670
Did this get reported in Sweden?
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>>56644133
it's just sad
but we have a saying in poland that goes""if you have a kind heart, then you've gotta have a tough ass"
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>>56646825
Underrated post
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>He lost his leg on a racist mobile scooter attack
Sweden needs to stop with these hate crimes
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>>56647944

That's why I'm planning to move and work in Singapore.
I honestly couldn't care less about Europe anymore. It can die for all I care. I don't save a cuck from his cuckoldry, but someone actually fighting a fight.
If they wanna saddle their grandkids up with a civil war 100 times worse than the Syrian one, they can go ahead and do so if they believe kindness and PC-cred now is more valuable than a stable society for future generations.
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>>56644133
>the cops actually are afraid of being in certain places.

Seriously? I don't think that those faggots would dare to do shit with the cops there, actually the guy of the camera was holding them back alone.

Now I understand why you guys hate them so much, but Europe still has hope.
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>>56648088
poland knows
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>>56648115
it will die because of people like you, giving up on their culture and history instead of maning the fuck up and driving the slimy migrants back to the shithole they came from
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>>56648176
>but some European countries still have hope.
Sweden, France, Belgium, Netherlands and the UK are lost
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>>56648443
You know that's fake, right?
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>>56646515
Laughed my ass off ŧbh fåm, but it looks like they just left him there afterwards? Surely he got the shit beaten out of him.
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>>56644133
>dat dude on the mobility scooter at the 6 minute mark
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>>56648226

Oh shut up. History is cyclical and this is the end of the cycle, friend.
If I'm seen as a traitor for even considering immigrants a problem, I'm ostracized. Why even fight for a tribe like that.
This is not some Hollywood flick where in the end they'll see their wrongs and nod at me in the distance and join us in the fight with an epic Howard Zinn-tune as we ride against the menace.
All this "fight till the last man"-heroism means fucking shit. I have one single life and intend to make the best of it and not sacrifice it in saving cucks from their doom.
Aenaes didn't stick around a smouldering ruin but decided to found Rome ( if you want to believe the myth ).
Not that I perceive myself as such ( meme-tier replies, hold yourselves ), but I would like people to not die defending an already lost cause.

If something is weak and dying you give it the final push, not keep it alive.
I'm done seeing this continent in permanent palliative care and sending its inheritance to a bunch of outsiders.
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>>56647818
You don't have no go zone afro american ghettos?
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>>56648625
>If something is weak and dying you give it the final push, not keep it alive.
yes, but countires and cultures aren't people, and when they die, they can be revived, upgraded and whatnot. DO not trade future of you and your kids for easy living. And sorry for the edgy quote, but the only things that are worth living for, are those that you'd die for.
I know life isn;t white and black, I know it's not a movie. But I still do not want to give in to the despair, I want to at least TRY changing things for better before completely giving up. Don't be afraid of being ostracized. Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words should never hurt you. And let me remind you who is coming with sticks and stones to hurt you and your kin. Grow a spine and man up, it's not too late for that at least.
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>>56648808
Of course not. Why do you think our police officers are so on edge?
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>>56648534
fucking cowards abandoned the brave moped kamikaze
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>>56646590
This was clearly an Australian TV-show that shares the same name as your 60 Minutes. Nothing to do with you.
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>>56648915

Well feel free to save western Europe. I hope it works, because it's a beautiful civilization to save. I can't sit around and skirmish with the sandniggers.
Everywhere I went in Asia, people honestly took interest in our classical music, our art, our philosophy ( not only our cocks like some shit for brains here love to talk about ).

The tragedy is that it ended up in this shit by its own VOLITION.
This is truly the biggest embarrasment in human history, because for decades now the "bigots" have been warning everyone about this, but then everytime shit hits the fan it was of course those 'alarmist' bigots who instigated this so-called self-fulfilling prophecy. If only everyone was kind, then Muslims wouldn't be triggered into joining ISIS.

We're far from the civil war I refered to, but we're getting there at this rate. Maybe when I'm 80 or something the situation might have aggravated to such a point and then I'd love my grandkids to be somewhere safe from the Great Cuckening.
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>>56649352
Yeah we've had 60 minutes for forever
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I don't see the point in referring to this video as 'Welcome To Sweden' ... as if this insanity is entirely unique to Sweden, cause we all know well its not

Yea Sweden do seem to go that one step beyond most others, but this shit is the future of pretty much all western European capitals no matter what we like to believe or tell ourselves
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1st mobility scooter assault brigade needs you.
Enlist now
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>>56649398
Situation will change. People will wake up.

There are a lot of people who act as moderate SJW's in public but when you talk them face to face they usually are aware of the problem. All of this shit is social propaganda without real sustaining and won't last for long.
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>>56649508
it's an australian show, the only "no go" areas we have are aboriginal communities out in the middle of nowhere where you might lose your tires or petrol if you leave your car by itself
This kind of unprovoked violence is definitely nothing you would see even in the dodgiest leb suburbs we have
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>>56646515
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>>56648062
lel do you think so?
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>>56650096
KEEP SCOOTIN' SVEN
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>>56650096
I'm sure that Sven is dead by now.
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>>56650096
KEEP SCOOTIN' SVEN
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>>56649976
>'no go' areas

realistically, these do not exist anywhere in Europe no matter how much we would all like to think they do. Yes, immigrant/muslim communities in can be hostile/dangerous, but they're not literal no-go zones

Belfast during the troubles had actual no-go zones. None of these places are anywhere near as dangerous as the no-go zones in Belfast were
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>>56650096
>>56650143
>>56650213
>Implying that scooter guy is not local Clan leader, annoyed that his youths will draw police attention with their assault on TV crew
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>>56644133

Sweden. yes.
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Need a thread on /pol/ for this t b q h
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>>56650096
KEEP SCOOTIN' SVEN
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>>56644133

Damn, maybe america should weaponize mobility scouters to fight ISIS.
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>>56644133
>portugal
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>>56650096
KEEP SCOOTIN' SVEN
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>>56650307
I guess we can all sleep a bit easier tonight then
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>>56644133
Thank you freedom scooter!
> F
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>>56644304
Yeah, like we forced them to accept the refugees.

The Civil war is not the fault of the US.
Coups and Civil wars are not anything new for Syria.

>Implying
The Refugee influx to Europe increased dramatically once Russia came into the picture.

One due to Russia bombing civilian cities, and EU stupid policy of accepting everyone that goes through.
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>>56650096
>KEEP SCOOTIN' SVEN
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>>56651655
Source?

Russia started bombing in October. Also, remember that we were bombing WAY before them. We hit Al-Nusra a bunch in North Syria.
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>>56650096
KEEP SCOOTIN' SVEN
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>>56644133

I'm so tired of minorities. Monkeys need to go back in their cage.
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Not even Compton is this bad LAMOA
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>>56651759

This, Again.
Very well. Here.

>https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/12/syria-russias-shameful-failure-to-acknowledge-civilian-killings/

>https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/10/09/syria-apparent-russian-airstrikes-kill-civilians

>http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/01/russian-air-strikes-kill-1000-civilians-syria-160120135601455.html

Russia has killed more civilians in their months of involvement than we have in the year or two that we have been bombing.

US rules of engagement are much more strict.
Russia can get away with killing lots more civilians because they are hidden by Syria or the world doesn't care as much, because they are >HUR DUR AMERICAN IMPERIALIST


Russian Cluster Bombs in Aleppo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXoIy3IKEso
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>>56652189
It is estimated that around ~181 civilian deaths can be attributed to US air strikes in Syria.

Russia managed to break our record in less than a month. Good one.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/09/14/world/middleeast/syria-war-deaths.html

If you claim the video is fake, then have this:

>https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/10/10/syria-new-russian-made-cluster-munition-reported

Next time, Do your own fucking research would you.
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>>56652189
Civilians die in war m8. it's just the way it is. Putin isn't a pussy about it,

besides most of the refugees came or started moving before Russia got involved
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>>56652490
Yes, but the influx increased even further once bombings like in the video started to become more and more frequent.

Now it is not only Syria bombing, but Russia as well.

2 countries bombing the shit out of these cities mostly inhabited by civilians.

The second thing was the European bad policy of allowing all refugees to go wherever the fuck they wanted, and letting them pick which country they wanted to go.

If you had been more stern and indifferent, maybe they wouldn't be swarming your border with puppy eyes, so you let them in.
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>>56652490
Yeah, sure.

US kills civilians:
>HUR DUR IMPERIALIST, HUR DUR WOMEN AND CHILDREN, HUR DUR FOREIGN POLICY, HUR DUR HUR IT'S YOUR FAULT HUR DUR

Russia kills X10 more civilians:
>War is war m8. It never changes.
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>>56652596
>but the influx increased even further once bombings like in the video started to become more and more frequent.
sure but it was already too late for us anyway. I'd rather have Putin put a swift and violent end to the war than the US dragging it out any longer hoping for Assad to leave

>The second thing was the European bad policy of allowing all refugees to go wherever the fuck they wanted
yeah I'm not solely blaming the US. the Eu fucked up but I prefer Putins way of deaking with this than Natos

>>56652661
bullshit!! BULLSHIT! every news media is crying over the civilians that Russia is kiloling. however Putin and Russia unlike you guys doesn't give a fuck
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>Sweden is such a castrated country that only crippled old men still have the guts to stand up to invaders

I mean, we're pretty fucking docile too and we accept a lot of shit, but I'd never see this happening in my country.
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>>56652787
>Putin put a swift and violent end
But he hasn't.
He achieved nothing with his campaign. Now he is pulling out, and the government forces remain in deadlock with the other groups.

The only ones actually making real advance into ISIS territory has been the US coalition.

I could provide a source, but I'm kind of busy so you guys do it. It isn't hard.

I could see this war being terminated by Assad promising for elections and the deposition of this asshole.

So, the best way to end it is to come to a compromise that Assad cannot stay. The government can remain, but he has to leave.
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>>56652184
no it's worse, they have gurns
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>>56644133
Well they're refugees so I'm sure once the trouble blows over in their home countries they will leave
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>>56652787
With you second statement, I also disagree.
It is true that there have been reports on Russian civilian casualties and all.

But in no way do they compare with out fuck ups.

When the hospital got bombed in Afghanistan, everyone went apeshit. Doctors without borders wanted us to take us to international court and denounce us of war crimes. It was a big pile of shit.

Then numerous hospitals including Doctors without borders get shitted on syrian government territory, shortly after Russian involvement in late september-early octorber, and nobody gave a fuck.

I still have idiots asking for sources all the time.
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The last true viking of Sweden.
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>>56652944
>He achieved nothing with his campaign
do you seriously believe that? Assad was about to lose and in 5months Putin put him on top again. Now Assad has taken back huge swathes of territory and is besieging several town including the rebell "capital"

>I could see this war being terminated by Assad promising for elections and the deposition of this asshole.
that's what he and Russia is doing in the peace talks. they've said for over a year that they want to stabilize the country and then have elections

>So, the best way to end it is to come to a compromise that Assad cannot stay
that will propably happen but at this point I hope Assad stays. It will make the Saudis and Americans so butthurt that their coup attempt failed
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>>56647401
pay for my trip and i'll vanquish them all
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>>56650096
KEEP SCOOTIN' SVEN
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I think Russia has been accused of bombing civilians non stop from the onset of the conflict. thing is they can't really prove wheter it's russian or Syrian jets. whilst in Afghanistan we all know it's US drones

don't worry about source btw, I know what you're talking about, your info is mostly correct

>>56653027
>Doctors without borders wanted us to take us to international court and denounce us of war crimes. It was a big pile of shit.
why didn't they btw?
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>>56651655
>The Civil war is not the fault of the US
If you don't count the financing of the "moderate" rebels like Al Nusra. And if you don't count the 2003 invasion being a direct cause of the creation and power of ISIS, then maybe America has no responsibility.

America isn't responsible for the Syrian civil war. Except for that one time where Russia was offering a deal with peace but the west ignored it because they wanted more leverage http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/15/west-ignored-russian-offer-in-2012-to-have-syrias-assad-step-aside

>>56652189
>HUR DUR AMERICAN IMPERIALIST

American imperialism is very real and if you say anything different you are either fucking with me or just a fucking idiot. The reason America is held to a higher standard is that you guys pretend to be a liberal, civilized, humane, democracy. In addition America is the most powerful country, "the leader of the free world". What America does sets a precedent for what other countries can do. With no Iraq war there is no Georgian or Ukraine war.

Everyone knows that Russia is pretty much a dictatorship. No one has expectations on them to be decent human beings. It's the same empire that fucking Stalin led as little as 63 years ago.
With all this said Obama has changed some rules of engagement so that a little less civilians are killed which is nice of him I guess
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>>56653112
The US went said that it was a mistake, a huge investigation took place, the blame was put mostly on bad afghani inter, and the ones responsible were/are going to be punished.
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>>56652596
>The second thing was the European bad policy of allowing all refugees to go wherever the fuck they wanted, and letting them pick which country they wanted to go

Reason for this is actually kinda connected to the whole Syriza thing. When they came to power they stopped actively patrolling borders and were slightly more humane.
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>>56647923
you also have no-go-zones, or how do you call the hoodrat hives?
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>>56653370
>connected to the whole Syriza thing. When they came to power they stopped actively patrolling borders and were slightly more humane.
are you fucking kidding me?! Holy shit fuck that party
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>>56653456
well, coincidentally its about a year ago that they demanded money or they would send the refugees north
http://www.thelocal.de/20150309/greek-minister-threatens-germany-with-refugees

of course its just a coincidence
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>>56653066
This is the best article I could find related to the Government advance post-russian involvement.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/09/30/world/middleeast/syria-control-map-isis-rebels-airstrikes.html

As you can see their advance has not been as substantial as some make it out to be. The article is from Feb. 22
I'm not too attentive to the government side of the civil war, So maybe things changed in this past month, but they didn't change much from october to march at least.
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>>56653588
>He also said that if some of the refugees were members of the terrorist group Isis, it would be Europe's fault because of its position on Greece's economic problems.
FUCKIGN TRAITORS!!!
I mean Merkel fucked us all over but Greeks sure failed at holding the fucking line like they've depended on to do historially
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>>56653639
thank you for the article this is great. gonna save this to keep track of progress.

From what I've heard Assad and the Syrian Kurds have a non-agression pact. Kurds fight Isis whilst Assad kills rebell scum. he is besieging their capital at least and he's not threatened anymore like he was 5 months ago when several people were declaring his govenment would fall within weeks
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>>56652944
>He achieved nothing with his campaign

Nigga you have no concept of the geo-political reality. Most people who are actually in the know about this shit are impressed over the way Putin has handled this shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UggpykXm-Jc


>Putin makes Russia look like a super power
>Russian naval base still in action
>Assad still in power
>so no pipeline from the gulf to Europe
>authoritarian dictators now know that they have a friend if Americans/the people try to overthrow them
>leverage gained in Ukraine crisis


There is a reason that Putin has been dubbed the most powerful man in the world. He doesn't have to pander to the people because he can fix elections.

Meanwhile Obama is having problems with even keeping the government running because republican corporate whores and racist are payed to fuck with him

I'm a liberal/leftist and all that shit but now that I think of it a Trump dictatorship might actually make America more functional. A dysfunctional democratic government is kind of a condition if the people are to vote away their democracy. It has only happened once before.

Hmm. Unless Americans want facsism you guys should be getting spooked by now
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>>56653670
if i am honest, then taking pressure off the balkans and greece was actually the right thing to do. not the right thing to do is her retarded insistence on "there is no upper boundary" and her refugee selfies which make a lot more come here.

all she had to do was to make it clear that refugees are not welcome and have to go again 100%. would also make a proper european solution easier.
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>>56653289
The US invasion of Iraq occurred in 2003.
That's 2 years short of a decade prior to the war.

The Civil war is one of the Arab spring movements gone wrong, mainly due to Assad's unwillingness to give up his seat.

Like I said before, Civil wars and coups aren't a new thing for Syria. Second, Using the invasion as the reason for blaming the US for the syrian civil war is splitting hair and making someone responsible for indirect results of its actions.

The Butterfly effect is not a good accusation.

Once, the syrian war started the US did support rebels as it saw a better future with the rebels, and after all the blood that Assad has spilled I think the US saw the defeat of the government as necessary.

This didn't "Start" the war. It simply gave a fighting chance to some of the opposition.
Also, the US wasn't funding Al nusra. Some of the rockets ended up in their hands, but once the US never directly funded them or armed them.
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>>56653796
What I meant by achieving nothing was more related to the war effort agains the rebels and ISIS.
I have no doubt that Russia had its own interest in the matter.

I didn't notice caspian uploaded a new video. thanks for posting it.

Yes, I had already read about all those point. But again, I was referring more to the advance and territory taken by the government.

Since Russia got involved, some made it out to be as if the rebels were done for and so was ISIS. That the Government was now just steamroll through the desert. But that wasn't the case.

The government is indeed in a better position than it was before Russian involvement but it is far from winning the conflict and is again in a stalemate.
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>>56653885
>Like I said before, Civil wars and coups aren't a new thing for Syria.
sure m8 but in this civil war the rebels oh I'm sorry the "moderate" kek rebells got weapons from the US and Saudi Arabia alon with extremist fighters from the chaos of the Libyan conflic which again the US and Nato helped create.

the US is partly to blame for the Syrian conflict man. and mostly because of the destabilisation of Iraq
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>>56653670
>>56653588
>well, coincidentally its about a year ago that they demanded money or they would send the refugees north

You brought this on you yourself motherfuckers. I bet you liked that debt relief you got
in the post ww2 era.

It's supposed to be a union. The word is in the fucking name. Yet you couldn't wait to fuck a country in the ass so hard that it's practically falling apart.
>>56653670
don't blame the Greeks for the shit Merkel and the EU has brought us
>>56653845
Ever noticed how at one time the Syriza stuff was dominating the news and then suddenly it was all about these refugees. Merkel fuck Greece and then suddenly human as fuck to the refugees. It's all a fucking game to her
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>>56654056
I won't get into the Libyan affair.

The US may be partly to blame for continuing to support the rebels and wanting Assad deposed. That is a no-brainer.

But the rebels were armed and helped by the US once the Civil war had initiated. How can you blame someone for starting a conflict once the conflict was already under way for numerous years.
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>>56644183
This made me kek desu
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>>56653796
>Russia is kicking all sorts of ass in the middle east

>meanwhile in America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEBTFEyUbYg

thanks sjw's
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>>56654207
>I won't get into the Libyan affair.
hell it's not just ytou guys, even my cuck country sent jets to help the poor helpless "moderate" rebells.

>The US may be partly to blame for continuing to support the rebels and wanting Assad deposed
yes they should leave Syria alone. That why I support Trump. he wants out of all the retarded coup tier wars in the mid east

>How can you blame someone for starting a conflict once the conflict was already under way for numerous years.
I'm saying the US made it into the shit storm it is today. and not just the US btw. Turkey and Saudi Arabia are to blame even more than the US.
Had the rebells not been armed this would've been over a long time ago.
Look at Lebanon. protests for over a year. over a hundred people killed by police and military yet no civil war. because no one is arming the protestors
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>>56646757
>tfw you'll never drive your scooter as you stand up for your ideals

Real human bean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcV1UpZAWAc
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>>56653845
yes but you can take pressure of in other ways.
>by providing money
>by forcing the migrants to go back ike we're doing now
>by using the eu countries navies to patrol
insted We and Germany suicided our countries
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>>56653885
ISIS rose to power in Iraq as a direct result of the political vacuum created after the abolishment of the Ba'ath party in 2003

so yeah sorry lads but you guys are part of the problem
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>>56644133
No sympathy
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>>56644133
That scooter man is my current hero!
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>>56654387
But the country had already entered into a civil war without the US intervention on the side of the rebels.

The stalemate and the introduction of ISIS into the war would have made the war equally cruel and I doubt it would have changed so dramatically.

>US made it into the shit storm it is today
Not really. The US got seriously involved only after Assad had gassed its own people in ghouta. I would call that already a shitstorm.

Had Assad not broken international law, it may had made his struggle a little bit less stressful.

Assad is the real terrorist. Most civilian casualties are due to his Air force, and he was the one to introduce WMDs into the conflict.
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>>56654153
>Yet you couldn't wait to fuck a country in the ass so hard that it's practically falling apart.

>lend greece money when no one else would lend money
>only demand is that they get their finances in order* since their tax income cant support that at all, even compared to other european states

*well i admit that the EU bloodhounds didn't force them to do a single sensible reform and only bled the country dry. doesn't change my opinion that they should lower spending if they just don't have the money. and if we really do a european wide social net then they should have the same taxes as we do and a comparable level of tax dodging and corruption. then i would be willing to give them shit for free during hard times.

also a small funfact: the EZB money policy has cost Germans over 300 billion already
http://www.wiwo.de/politik/deutschland/ifo-chef-sinn-niedrigzinspolitik-hat-deutschland-schon-327-milliarden-euro-gekostet/13334532.html
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>>56654207

Well if you watch caspian report clearly you must something of what's going on in geopolitics lol. Those videos are just like information heroin. Pure, unbiased facts about the underlying causes of world events.

With that said there seems to be a part of you that has a very American perspective on world events.
>But the rebels were armed and helped by the US once the Civil war had initiated. How can you blame someone for starting a conflict once the conflict was already under way for numerous years


I don't think anyone is trying to claim that America literally is the reason for the Syrian civil war. But American, and also older European imperialism is a big part of the reason why the middle east is fucked. I mean a big reason for why the Iraq war caused so much anger is that it was pretty obviously neo-imperialism, which is disgusting.

I mean, take for example when ISIS shit's on the Sykes-Picot line. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement

When they are doing that they actually have a pretty good point. Now even tho this agreement happened almost literally a hundred years ago it's still an example of how imperialism has shaped and is still shaping our world
btw who would you vote for today? My guess is that you are the kind of freak who actually kinda liked the idea of Jeb Bush but now you are hoping for Kasisch?
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>>56654507
No. Isis was already a terrorist cell prior to the US invasion of 2003.

ISIS as we know it today emerged after the US withdrawal of Iraq in 2011. That was the real power vacuum that lead to its formation.

It was the ill planned pull out that cause this problem. All the blame should be placed in Obama's lap.

Nonetheless, The spread and strengthening of ISIS was due to the Iraqis inability to fight a numerically and technologically inferior foe, as well as the destabilization of Syria caused by its already ongoing civil war.

The Syrian Civil war was only worsened but not started by either the US, Russia, or ISIS for that matter.
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>>56646515
>mobility scooter into the most violent attacker
Another brave Merican dies saving Euro pussies.
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>>56654507
yes this is very true

If the Ba'ath party is given some power after the invasion there is no ISIS and no IRAQI civil war
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>>56644133
He is the hero rinkeby deserves
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>>56644133
T. ALBERTO MOTHERFUCKING BARBOSA, LOOK AT THE FUCKING CESSPOOL OF FILTH WHERE YOU LIVE BEFORE MOCKING COUNTRIES 10 TIMES BETTER THAN OURS
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>>56654741
Yeah. That is what I love about geopolitics. It makes much more sense and seems a more "scientific" way of looking at the actions taken by countries and leaders.

I couldn't agree more. Sykes-Picot is indeed one of the reasons for such a shit show, and I do acknowledge "NEO-imperialism" but sometimes people misconstrue of try to place the US as a good ol' empire when it clearly isn't.

Exerting force, and prioritizing interests may be Neo-empirialistic but I don't condone US actions as long as they are beneficial for the nation.

I was actually a bernie supporter, but as his campaign is doomed now, I guess I'll have to go for clinton.

I'm a liberal in certain issue and conservatives in others. I not eager for a US isolation policy and I'm not against the US making its interest clear.
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>>56654643
>The US got seriously involved only after Assad had gassed its own people in ghouta
was that ever proven to be Assad? The UN investigation came up short. the one I saw said there was no proof Assad did it. it could've been any other party in the conflict which unleashed
>Assad is the real terrorist. Most civilian casualties are due to his Air force, and he was the one to introduce WMDs into the conflict.
Unfortunately I gotta go to bed but I just have to say that I disagree with you and I think you're wrong. nevertheless it was a surprisingly civil and rewarding discussion which is rare on here. Goodnight
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>>56654941
proxy
yes
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>>56654967
Russia and Syria pushed against a clear conclusion, but it was very obvious that the gas attack was a result of the Syrian government.
Amnesty and HWR put the blame on Syria and the UN did proceed to destroy the remaining stockpile of chemical weapons at the hands of Assad. No more attacks since then.

Night.
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>>56654941
t. alberto barbosa
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>>56654750
I know it had a different but it started getting more relevant when it allied with Al Qaeda back in 2004

>all the blame

Obama should've tried to create infrastructures and order there, true, but Bush shouldn't have abolished a whole party and removed thousands of people from their positions (many of Baghdadi's people used to be Saddam's generals). So it's both their fault

which doesn't really matter cuz I didn't say Bush I said you guys as a country

oh in the end the reasons behind arab spring is just islamic fundamentalism, just saying you guys should've thought twice in Iraq
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>>56644133
Holy fuck, shitskins are fucking scum

What a good video
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>>56654644
>also a small funfact: the EZB money policy has cost Germans over 300 billion already

Sounds like German propaganda :D

No but seriously not having a national central bank is shit for everyone. For example in the 90s when Finland was in a depression we devalued our currency which made us competitive. I bet that you could come up with high figures for countries other than Germany, only in the other direction.

Countries struggling economically would like a weaker Euro while you'd like a strong one. It's a bit of give and take this European union, innit?


I'd admit that Greece is a corrupt shit hole government wise. People just don't like paying taxes there :D

With that said other countries aren't gonna be too willing to give up the power over their budgets when they see this kind of lack of solidarity.

While I do see your opinion as a German, imo a lot of the calls for austerity are a bit of a right wing conspiracy. In the Greece it might be very justified, but here in Finland we have just as loud screams for austerity even tho it has a negative impact on the economy, short and long term.

One thing that is problematic with the EU is how the issues are so far away and complicated that the democratic element of this shrinks
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>>56652953
they have grenades in sweden
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>>56655109
I wonder how the US manages without a central bank.

We do have the Federal Reserve, who is in charge of setting rates and currency value and all that. But they don't interfere much in the economy due to our touchiness with government intervention.
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>>56654946
>I was actually a bernie supporter

Hmm. Interesting. I always thought that Bernie was losing thunder by not hammering HRC with what a filthy imperialist she is, (for example supporting a military coup in Hondouras, as secretary of the state, where they atm are murdering environmental activists). But apparently he might have turned you off by that.

For me one of his greatest moments was when he said https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCjQbTEuoDU

>fuck Henry Kissinger

I kinda thought that Americans had gotten tired of all the imperialism as seen with the Ron Paul 2012 meme. But then the new jihadist flavor of the decade comes along and chops off some heads and suddenly Americans are prepared to dive head first into Iraq again. baka
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>>56654970
>proxy
Already posted proof in luso that I'm neither a proxy nor the venezuelan guy the other day, fuck off
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>>56650096
KEEP SCOOTIN SVEN
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>>56647818
>We don't have anything like that here.
Bullshit, there are neighborhoods in almost every major city where the police simply don't go unless they go in force.
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>>56655469
>I kinda thought that Americans had gotten tired of all the imperialism as seen with the Ron Paul 2012 meme
He never had nearly as much support as you seem to think he did.
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>>56655469
Ron Paul never had any serious momentum, normies didn't have a clue who he was and didn't care.
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>>56655631
B-but people were supporting him in pretty much every youtube comments section. Are you telling me youtube comments section aren't representative of the world?
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>>56644133
Why are niggers so violent? Is it genetic?
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>>56655469
No, I was not turned off by Bernie.
He just isn't going to win, and there is no better alternative than Hilary at this point.

I'm not voting for trump, nor a canuck.
Kasich I don't know much about. Let's see how things go from this point on.

The recent killing of the activist in Honduras was due to some Canadian company (that was the last rumor I heard) but in reality, no one can probe who was the real culprit.

Believe. No one here in the USA is eager to go back. It would be political suicide to even seriously consider US forces going back to Iraq.

As long as US property and Interests can be assured without "boots on the ground" then we will try our utmost. It will be sometime before the US public is ready to support another unfounded invasion. For the next few decades, I don't see a US intervention in the same size as 2003.

But as of currently, there is a US MEU (Marine Expeditionary Unit) fighting in Iraq. I think these small detachments won't bring any problems with the public, and as long as they remain secret I can see them being very useful.

This MEU will further accelerate the US coalition advance into ISIS territory. Too bad that Obama won't be there to reap the political capital--IF this is a success.
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>>56655728
Genetic and cultural
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>>56644183
I already fucking hate it.
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>>56655747
>He just isn't going to win, and there is no better alternative than Hilary at this point.
third party up that shit
>no one can probe who was the real culprit
I listened to a half hour of democracy now and didn't exactly get that impression. Around 2009 after a coup there was going to be elections. All the neighboring latin American countries where demanding that the old president would be able to participate, meanwhile Hilary endorsed the election even tho it was clearly un-democratic. Since then lots of activists and opposition have been murdered or silenced, the recent one is making the news because she was famous and had gotten an international activist prize.

Hilary supported these coup makers to show herself powerful and pragmatic, but to me she just looks evil and Machiavellian.

>As long as US property and Interests can be assured without "boots on the ground" then we will try our utmost
Warfare without soldiers. Pure ideology dude
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>>56648808
Why do you think there are so many shootings in the states?

There's no such thing as a "no-go zone" there, the worst you'll get is areas that require backup before proceeding into
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>>56656064
>Third party
That isn't an option for him.
It requires too much money to try and go at it alone.

Hilary would have the name recognition and the full support of the Party.

I think that could also undermine the liberal vote, and make a trump election much more likely.

There must only be one liberal candidate to go all out with trump. We cannot allow trump to win.

Umm. I was aware of the Coup and all, but was not away of Hilary's endorsement. I may have to read up on that.

>Warfare without soldiers
Not without soldiers. Just not American Soldiers.
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>>56653796

>11,000 isis militants

Wow, thats a pretty big number of people. Here we are being told in america that its only a few radicals like some small secret club conspiracy.
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>>56656328
That's not true.
CNN and other news network have already mentioned the growing power of ISIS.
I have heard numbers as high up as 15K militants.
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>>56656255
> I was aware of the Coup and all, but was not away of Hilary's endorsement. I may have to read up on that

I got you senpai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB_6t3DYp5g
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>>56656492
Thanks bro.
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>>56656402

huh, I must be watching the news at the wrong times or something.
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>>56648915
>yes, but countries and cultures aren't people, and when they die, they can be revived, upgraded and whatnot.
>Poland flag

It's beautiful.
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>>56648115
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>>56650096
KEEP SCOOTIN' SVEN
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