France is really fucked because they have incredibly huge civil service that seems straight out of 19th century, huge debt and a bunch of immigrants who don't want to work and integrate (white people are already outbred in some regions)
Let me tell you about your country.
>>56616163
I'm an expert
>>56616121
A lot of heads in the government and previous governments should fall down.
>>56616192
Thank you Estonia
memes aside I saw a french movie and there were black students in their high school and no one seemed to care about this issue.
>>56616121
Still banking on Le Pen or a military coup to fix France.
>>56616270
It will end in a civil war.
>>56616300
Wouldnt it be rather quick given how centralised France is combined with the lack of firearms?
>>56616358
I saw that the elites of terrorism control merely had pistols and nearly shot one of their own dudes
Literally Turkey could take over all of europe at this point. They already are.
![france-government-spending-to-gdp[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/hltOyHZ.png "france-government-spending-to-gdp[1].png")
>>56616121
Lithuania has a point, namely the French State is huge. HUGE. Out of the European countries only Finland has a larger state (58% GDP) than France.
IMO it's bad for efficiency and competition if the State is responsible for this much economic activity.
![france-government-spending-to-gdp[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/vqqnKlK.png "france-government-spending-to-gdp[1].png")
I will also post this graph with the longer range, because some people say "ah but dirigisme is the French style it works for them, look at the post war boom!"
But no, the State wasn't this big even if we go back as far as 1978
Number of babies born to a families with at least 1 African parent.
>>56616657
>Number of babies born to a families with at least 1 African parent.
nope
>>56616582
Yea but it can still be helpful in a few case. By exemple the french government have way more assets than the british government in case of a war. Also the french economy is much more save in case of a huge worldwide economic collapse. But yea as you said the efficiency is low, competition is low and the economy won't improve that fast. A good exemple is the 2008 crisis, UK economy fell down while the France one hold almost steady. And now the UK economy is improving way way faster than the french economy.
Rusey supports Le Penn.
>>56616657
Isn't it foreign parent?
![CSUXPxYWEAESI6m[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/uTKgzaM.png "CSUXPxYWEAESI6m[1].png")
>>56616711
I disagree because it's clear that the UK handled the 2008 crisis much better than France. The proof is in the pudding. The French economy stagnated, if that's what you mean by holding steady.
I don't see how having a weaker economy will help France in a war. So what if the government doesn't hold assets now? If there's an emergency like war the government will seize assets. The British government has always done this. Even in the Falklands War, when the military didn't have enough troop transports, the government seized civilian cruise liners at Southampton to take Royal Marine Commandos to the Falklands. Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister then.
>>56616582
>>56616649
>.t Margaret Thatcher
>>56616709
My bad I scrolled too fast
>>56616121
Yep France is fucked. Most of my French language partners are extremely cynical about the future of the country and are actively trying to emigrate. I think they should stay and fight for their country though, but you can't expect much from frogs.
>>56616848
Go back to 2008 not to 2010.
>>56616877
>Most of my French language partners are extremely cynical about the future of the country
So, French people since France has ever existed right ?
Why do you think we're world leaders in Revolution and strike, optimism has never been a part of our culture.
And yet another about how France is fucked and never added to anything
Nothing to see
>>56616121
I dream to live in Lithua...quoi ! your culture are most important in the world. Lithuania save the world. thxs
>>56616877
You are right indeed. Most people are emigrating from France compared to any other Western European country.
Many of them are leaving for Asian and Australia as well as Canada.
![6ZErDBU[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/4SNaG3u.png "6ZErDBU[1].png")
>>56616879
Ok
>>56616903
It looks pretty grim from an outsider's perspective as well mate, you have a huge and growing problem with Islam, and as your native population slowly dwindles and their's increases, these problems loom larger and larger. The face of France is already irrevocably changed, in my opinion there's not a whole lot you can do now. Islam is there to stay. This isn't even touching in your economic woes. Much like the rest of Europe you've stagnated since the Financial crisis and show no signs of bouncing back.
>Almighty whitey going extinct
FUCKING GOOD
>>56616848
>>56616879
As I was describing only in 2013 the UK economy went ahead of the french economy, thats after the crisis ended.
I forgot to add that France has a huge housing problem.
>>56616582
Socialism, not even once
>>56617022
The UK was only able to grow faster than the French economy in 2013 because of the measures taken during the financial crisis. The austerity, reforms and efficiency measures had a short-term negative effect of growth. But it made the economy more healthy in the longer term.
Sacrificing that to achieve long term stagnation is not a better recovery.
>>56616985
lmaoing @ italy
>>56616983
>Complain about immigrants in your country
>Go to Asia
>>56616848
The french government have more or less 50 % more revenue than the british one that's huge. Sure in case of war you can seize assets. But that won't happen immediately at the first day of war, also by doing this you risk to alienate some of your citizens.
>>56616990
It's grim times, for us and Europe as well, and the question of Islam will be the one of this century I guess.
It took all of the Middle Ages to gut out the all powerful Catholic Church, but Europe did it in the end.
If not for political correctness, the same would have happened with Islam but, heh.
Also, getting involve with war in the Middle East was a mistake, and obviously, not integrating Maghrebi immigrants upon their arrival in the 50's created this mess.
In the end, it'll sort itself out, the only questions are, how long will it take and how people will have to die for it ?
But even though it's grim, make no mistake, there are as much laic French people than there are muslim nutjobs. Things are loosely in check for now, and for only so long.
Only a brilliant political leader and some change in the muslim community's way of thinking oculd solve this peacefuly, which I don't see it happening anytime soon, so, I lay back and watch the shitshow for now.
We've recovered from worse.
>>56617023
You also forgot to add that our average height is only 1,77m
>>56617105
He didn't say they were leaving for that reason (and I pulled that fact ut of his ass, most of them come back after a year or so)
>>56617085
More healthy until the next crisis in my opinion, but yea I will stop to argue I understand your point of view.
>>56617144
Islam arnt pussy ass catholics
They"ll burn yurope down first before moving in.
>>56617085
What you call "recovery" is just exceptional economic growth desu
Now comes the period of natural economic growth, trying to reproduce to the economic growth of post-WW2 era is just straight impossible without yet an other mass deregularization
>>56617244
Our Polish friends will intervene to save the day.
Mass emmigration to Poland and Estonia from USA (fleeing pogroms), France, Germany and England by 2070-2100. Screencap this post.
>>56617264
Nah sorry french faggot
Every goyim for himself
Like in the good old days
>>56617144
>brilliant political leader
>some change in the muslim community's way of thinking
don't hold your breath champ
>>56616877
Piss off
>>56617120
>The french government have more or less 50 % more revenue than the british one that's huge
Is this true? I'm not arguing with you, but I would like to see figures. It makes sense because the French have higher outlays, spending commitments and they must get more in tax. I would like to put figures on it though.
I have UK government revenue, £716 billion in 2016-17. Do you have it for France?
>also by doing this you risk to alienate some of your citizens.
I think it's only a danger if the government keeps the assets after the emergency is over. So, it all depends on the trust between government and private citizens and business.
>>56616300
we av a lot of civil war ! no us, uk or germany. Don't care.
>>56617120
>>56617380
Sorry, posted too soon. Source is here
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/budget-2016-documents/budget-2016
bring back De Gaulle tbf
>>56617368
Cry me a river
>>56617244
>Islam arnt pussy ass catholics
Catholics back then were not the hippes of today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Bartholomew%27s_Day_massacre
>>56617247
>What you call "recovery" is just exceptional economic growth desu
It's not exceptional, our growth has been mostly between 2% and 3%. Normal, unremarkable growth
>>56616437
Europe deserves it.
They voted for these stupid policies of mass immigration and open borders, they're now reaping what they sew. I only feel sorry for the generation that was too young to vote and who's futures have now been shat on.
>>56617380
Searching a better source but for now wait with wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government_budgets_by_country
>>56617422
>>56617430
>>56617144
>We've recovered from worse.
False hope, m8. White people will cease to exist in next 3-4 centuries together will all European values and culture.
>>56617527
And repeating that on an imageboard filled with non-white roleplaying as white will change something
>>56617472
Don't worry, the source from that wikipedia article is fine. It's changed since they wrote the article though. The citation takes me here
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2056.html
France:
revenues: $1.253 trillion
UK:
revenues: $1.101 trillion
The gap must have become smaller due to the recovery and also the drop in value of the Euro against the US dollar.
If the Euro was still as strong as before, I assume France would still be around $1.5tn. So you're basically correct on the old exchange rates.
PPP might be more useful for this
>>56617527
>White people will cease to exist in next 3-4 centuries together will all European values and culture.
Because White people today are the exact same thing as they were three or four century ago, right ?
>>56617488
w-why
why are they doing that?
>>56617463
Normal economic growth for developed countries rolls around 0.1% to 2% but yet politicians and corporations dramatize the situation, our economy is pretty fine, our currency will do fine, our gold reserves are pretty safe, there's no need to try to reach out an economic growth above 2%, the only people who have interests in doing that are corporations.
France has a bigger gold reserve than India and China combined but yet in the news it seems like we're poor fucks that will become third world if our economic growth doesn't increase.
Correct me if I'm wrong but France will win in the long term, the people here are resisting that crazy idea that is to try to reach post-WW2 economic growth.
>>56617631
Because they are leftist scum and hate France. These are antifa during one of the Calais riots
>>56617488
He hid in uk to take power after war. Lithuania what your favorite singer, movie...
>>56617600
I can't see the point of your post. I think it is inevitable.
>>56617616
I don't get it. Please, explain.
>>56617736
>Why migrants of Calais want to go in UK?
>>56617698
What the fuck you commie, not having China tier growth mean we're a dying country and the average french is getting poorer and poorer. Worker rights are a thing of the past and should be done with !
![france-unemployment-rate[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/TOesA5i.png "france-unemployment-rate[1].png")
>>56617698
Your economy is not fine. Fine economies do not have unemployment like this. Faster economic growth is not a mere fetish of corporations, it is how you improve the livelihood of citizens of France.
Having a large gold reserve isn't much to those unemployed people. I don't think gold is a big deal, to be honest. I don't want my government spending my tax money on fucking gold, I want to investing in the infrastructure and people of the country.
>>56617698
>>56618353
this delusion
>>56616121
yeah yeah sure you said the same thing in the 60s but we are still here.
>>56618353
The English skills of French are cute
>>56616657
That's not exactly that.
It's the number of babies reached of sickle-cell-diseases, a disease who touch the negroid and Arabic populations, and just a bit South European populations.
Actually it shows more or less the number of babies of extra-European origins.
>>56619037
Meh
At least they're cute
>>56616711
>>56616879
>>56617120
>>56617472
Merci beaucoup
1905's religion law was a mistake, the stop of the conscription was a mistake, everything in this fucking country went wrong. France maybe an european leader, it's the weakest of the trio.
Because of its fucking leaders these fucking kikesuckers, robbers (the most serious candidate for presidential elections HAS A FUCKING CRIMINAL RECORD) this dirty ploutocratia handled by mass medias, owned by a few industrials :
Le Figaro - jewish Family, Dassault
Le Monde - homosexual lobby, télécom; Pierre Bergé, Xavier Niel
I can go on this Line for a while.
Everything looks bad, french soverenity is clearly dying for the """""" beauty"""""" of the United States of Europa and Panamericanism.
Bigots are glad, they have fun watching "theyr" millenial country in a fucking no-go-back hole, allying cultural marxism, securalism and delusion.
Niggers and Sand niggers aren't the main problem. History showed that they can be educated.
The real problem stands on the heads of the government, corrupted as fuck. Everyone in the government is a freemason member, almost.
The economy minister is an ex-banker from Rothschild, the same family who cucked Napoléon and made him sink.
Like today's France. The ship is sinking because of ~500 morons.
I call for blood, fire and heads. God, may you help us.
>>56616657
wtf, it's the gap of illness risk of shitskinned babies from 2005 to 2010 in percent, it NEVER say the percent of shitskinned population.
Corruption and mismanagement happens to every civilization at one point or another. Shit goes in cycles, yo.
>>56616121
>a bunch of immigrants who don't want to work and integrate
The RATP and the SNCF isn't the whole of France, Lithuanon.
>>56616163
Frenchfags on /int/ are notoriously unreliable because muh patriotic feels
>>56620536
And fins are notoriously ...
Ehm.
>>56616121
They aren't doomed. Inherentlys inferior eastern european gerbage such as you and me would be doomed, but French are Western, it's impossible for them to fall as they are exception from economic and even thermodynamic laws that apply to their lessers such as myself.
>>56618544
But French are rich, they can afford to keep large part of their population pursuing better things in life.
>>56619539
>>>/lacroix/
>>56618544
Let me tell you aboout how the british have 2 jobs and gain still less money than an unemployed french
>>56620751
I note the sarcasm but the French do get treated differently to Greece, Spain, Ireland, Portugal, etc because of their considerable influence in the EU. This is actually bad for France. They are breaching the Eurozone's deficit target and need reform badly, but there is no action against France like the other countries. They keep getting let off.
It's bad for France because it encourages bad behaviour. This article gives an idea of what's been happening
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-eurozone-fiscal-france-idUKKCN0HP1O020140930
>>56620984
Deficit is artificial.
>>56616121
>huge civil service that seems straight out of 19th century
France health care cost in percent of gdp : 11%
USA health care cost in percent of gdp : 17%
so yeaaaaah our old system is still way chaper and works way better,.
>huge debt
do you really understand how debt mecanism is working? and which is the ones holding french debt? you would be surprise idiot
>bunch of immigrants
30.000 immigrants per year, still 20 times less than germany
>white people are already outbred in some regions
this is wrong af!!! first of all racial statistics are forbiden in France for muh no discrimination
secondly the wrong map you putted in this thread is absolutely not the percent of non white new born babies, learn to read statistics
>>56621184
Relax Jean, this board is focused on memes, not legitimate arguments and opinions.
>>56617025
>20+ years of right wing government
>Supposedly left govenment which is actually worse than the right
>"Socialism"
>>56621326
memes are fun when they can't arguably be denied, this is maybe the reason why 4chan is becoming so shit nowadays, memes are done for the pleb.
>>56620984
I honestly don't think anything really bad can happen in Frence, Germany, UK or USA. You are just too far ahead of everyone else and too robust economicaly.
>>56621612
Shit will happen if the government doesnt break to demonstrations going on this month, they want to bring us back to 19th century work laws
>>56621608
I stopped taking posts on 4chan seriously. It's a good idea.
>>56621612
Hahahaha
Well meme'd my friend I like your style. Dry and bitter, with a hint of mischief, like a good wine.
>>56616850
he's right though.
Beside he posted charts and you answered with meme.
>>56621853
I cant believe how anglo still hate France this much. Its ok, we're allies now, Bouvines was 806 years ago and Waterloo 201 years ago. Calm your shit Brian.
>>56621853
What's worst than an anglo smugfuck ?
Nothing, because he's delusional from roots.
>>56622029
At least we continentals are united in our distaste for the smug brits :-DDD
>>56622023
>>56622029
Why are you angry at this post? Did you read the post I replied to?
Czech anon said nothing can go wrong in UK, France, Germany. I think that's silly, everything can go wrong in our countries. OUR countries. UK AND FRANCE.
>>56617471
>They voted for these stupid policies of mass immigration and open borders, they're now reaping what they sew. I only feel sorry for the generation that was too young to vote and who's futures have now been shat on.
Nobody in Europe voted for these things, that's one of the main reasons why the far-right is gaining so much power. Everyone just woke up one day and was told that they had to have mass immigration and open borders by all the major parties.
>>56621709
>unironically being against progress
>>56621709
I bet those "draconic 19th century laws" are a lot less harsh than ours.
>this whole thread
Do you guys ever get embarassed by your fellow countrymen? Cause right now I do
This thread has depressed me. I didn't know things were so bad in France.
>>56617616
No, hunger and disease contain peoples. Now are too much less death.
>>56624144
They aren't.
Unemployment is pretty bad, but that'll be fixed eventually
Muslims will have to be taken care of somehow, but as for the refugee crisis we're only taking 30k in so we're not doing too bad on that front either.
>>56621539
>muh left is right meme
The two main parties are both social democrats, deal with it.
>>56623881
>Do you guys ever get embarassed by your fellow countrymen?
Every single day
France is an ok country and it will be as long as they keep porn legal.
