what do you think about Islam and muslims ,I'm confused .
Honestly, I hate it.
>>56483399
glass them
>>56483399
I think its all good, and what I think was the reason why God put down so many known prophets in a particular hotspot area was because those who live there are the most shitty people on the planet, so He tries to civilized them the most
Whether it was a success or not, Allahualam
Subhuman scum.
>>56483461
>>56483491
>>56483547
This. Anyone who's greatest prophet is a mass murdering pedophile is either a terrible person or retarded. Probably both.
>>56483399
I would be happy if you were brutally murdered t b h
I mostly dislike Islam (the only reason I don't totally dislike it is because it inspired Rumi), but every American Muslim I've met has been normal or pretty cool. Egyptian Muslims in my experience have been nice too. Gulf Arabs are either nice to be around or arrogant, so they're a mixed bag.
Muslims don't scare me, but the power that Islam holds to push quite a few Muslims to extreme acts of violence in the name of Islam does scare me.
>>56483593
jews are nice person
>>56483593
go away shlomo
>Muh dictators
>Proceed to indiscriminately glass everyone for oil
>woah fucking savage sandniggers
Islam is a shitty religion
Muslims living in their own country and doing their own shit doesn't bother me, as long as they don't do douchebag shit like kill cities full of civilians of blow up ancient historical sites.
To put it short, fuck ISIS but good job for Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and the UAE (except for the slavery thing, not cool man). I guess good for Kuwait but I don't know much about it.
Oh, and they have no place in Europe. Get 'em out.
>>56483516
Even if I follow your absolutely retarded argument of a shithead hotstpo he'd have to put all of the prophets into south Africa every fucking time no matter what, all the prophets would be Dindus according to your logic.
>>56483399
>>56483516
>>56485692
>>56486041
Islam is cancer and so is everyone who believes those lies.
>>56486277
>french flag
Not even funny at this point
Islam is a backwards violent religion. Any person who practices and believes in it is dangerous and/or stupid. 'Secular' muslims (the ones who are just muslims on paper, muh heritage, pleasing their parents, etc) are ok
>>56486509
>french flag
>Not even funny at this point
>Says the guy with an Israëli flag
I don't give shits to them
>>56486707
ta gueule bicot
>>56486988
Should be "I don't give a shit about them".
>>56487017
Bouffe lui la bite toi
>>56483399
I don't.
We are mortal enemies.
>>56487272
I thought Jews were our mortal enemies
>>56483399
I think there are muslims who are confused about islam
>>56483399
Polytheism with 100 faces-pseudo-names with famous black cube with hidden secrets inside. At major part I don't love Islam because it hate paintings, sculpture and music and have too many self-with-near-murderers wishing after suicide go to heaven.
I hate them but I'm also glad they're fucking the West up
>>56487305
>our
>>56487445
I'm proud of you.
This is the most significant thing you've ever done or ever will do in your life.
Mention "the west" on 4chan.
All religions are retarded, I'd rather have a fedora collection than return to the Middle Ages
>>56487519
Yeah, our as in Muslims :/
>>56487445
>West
Are you really drawing a line between you and "the west"?
Seeing how Poland is a member of both EU and NATO, this freedom eagle has very bad news for you.
>>56487445
Pretty much the same. They backed the terrorists here so fuck em.
>>56487727
Eagles have bad news for everybody.
>>56488077
>the filename
top kek
>>56483399
No problem as long as they stay in their shithole countries tbqh
I hate them just as much Christians or Jews, but Muslims are the only ones that are still consistently violent. A peaceful Muslim I'm fine with as a person, but their religion is still shit like the rest of them. The other problem is moderate Muslims are honestly closer to more "radical" Christians in the US at least. A moderate Muslim is someone who is pretty much quiet and peaceful, but many times they still apostasy should be punished or some terrorist are justified. Just because you aren't a terrorist doesn't mean you aren't a religious nut. I wish people understand this the most, that's how you make Muslims more "westernized". The "moderates" need to become truly moderate like Christians and Jews, and they need to speak out against the radicals. Peaceful Muslims can't even speak out against terrorism, even if most of them don't support it. It's become impossible for anyone to speak out against terrorism as a religious problem, because it is heavily a religious problem. Of course it is politicized and used by religious leaders to pursue a political agenda, but there is a core problem if people will readily kill for their religion. A modern Christian leader couldn't do the same in the west because western Christianity isn't violent, though some African christians are very violent...
>>56483399
Islam doesn't appeal to me and I oppose giving islam more space in my community. I don't give a shit that west europeans and americans have fucked with muslim countries in the past, that doesn't make me like what islam is. The only good future for muslims is if they give up their religion.
>>56487130
Le youpin a raison, les boucaques sont un cancer.
They are my ancestors so i am forced to like them.
It's a shame that they are such vain and materialistic people with a huge inferiority complex tough... kinda like my fellow countrymen
>>56483399
I'd have no problem with it if you'd stop fucking shit up for everyone. Keep your crap in your desert hellholes and get it together.
>>56483547
Odd how the population is mostly centered in central England and South West, yet the more dense South West hasn't had any scandals that we know of.
Why don't muslims go to Cornwall or East Anglia?
I'm an atheist. I have no problem with secular "muslims" but we have so many Sharia fetishists here.
>>56483399
I've never been racist, or bigoted towards any group of people. But I genuinely dislike Islam. There is absolutely nothing positive about it.
>>56489447
Well, no one likes "real(sharia)" Islam.
>>56483399
awful, just fucking awful. the world would be so much better without it.
>>56483399
You know whats worse than Wahhabists? Secular muslims or atheists living in muslim countries
>Oh I really dont like islam but im still going to follow its culture
Saudi arabia should be wiped off the face of the earth, it's the most evil country in the world
>>56489447
This, saying "islamophobia" is akin to saying cancerphobia, or siphalusphobia.
>>56486277
But they did same thing with the water wells
>>56489486
I've always been under the impression that even the "moderate" Muslims still somewhat believe in Sharia, and most of them refuse to condemn the actions of their peers
What would happen if we destroyed that black box?
>>56489610
>>56483399
The meme which leaves no one indifferent.
>>56489616
But a black box is indestructible, don't you know? That's why we use them in aeroplanes.
>>56488403
This
>>56488618
Also this
I dunno how people can follow the religion. I have to pretty much follow it because there are legal repercussions for not doing so in my cuntry. Only reason it still exists today is because of the very real threat of violence it imposes on its people. Take it away people wouldnt follow it.
>>56490172
r a r e
Also aren't you worried about posting this shit online if you could be legally punished by the state for it? Do they have apostasy laws there?
>>56490172
Flee into the jungle and live free with the orangutans.
I like Islam and I find the butthurts over it are amusing
>>56490629
This
>tfw westerners don't like us because "dirty Muslims"
>tfw Muslims don't like us because "shia kaffir rafidha"
>>56483399
Brainwashed pigs
>>56496305
You have a way out, invite Ahura Mazda back into your hearts.
>>56483399
It's cancer, brutal, inhuman and retarded.
Shit: the religion.
And yes, the prophet is a war mongerer pedophile.
>>56483399
A local Islamic Inman is reported missing after he went to a local reservation to speak with the natives.
>>56496795
>Implying Catholicism isn't equally as bad.
>>56483593
You must not read the Old Testament. Lol
Johan belives that sand anon knows very well
I like shias though. Maybe because my cousins are shias but for the most part I haven't found anythin in your beliefs that would leave me to believe shias aren't muslims.
t.sunni
>>56496878
>>56496878
ahahhaha nice meme!
I'm agnostic leaning very much towards atheism but c'mon, Christianity or at least modern Christians are much more humane and down to earth than brain washed mudslims.
>>56496305
Shia are bareable.
>>56497005
meant to respond to>>56496305
>>56496716
>literally fire worshippers who don't pray to Allah Akbar
It's better to be hated in this world and get paradise in the next desu.
>>56497074
BRAISE AHURA NOW :D
>>56497012
>meme
Explain to me how this is a meme. It's a very unpopular opinion. Do you even know what a meme is?
And no I think Catholicism has caused an equal if not greater amount of destruction in the history of mankind than Islam has.
>>56497074
What a fuckign retard you are.
And who tells you that you'll be granted heaven?
Maybe God exists but hate mudslims and will send you to hell for that.
>>56497074
The next what?
>>56497159
>do you even know what a meme is
Yes and you are autistic if you thought I was using that term super precisely, lately on 4chan meme is being used as a synonymous of bullshit.
Either way while Christianity has indirectly caused a lot of wars and tragedies, the actual message of Christianity is to be peaceful and loving to everyone.
The message of Islam is to slaughter and enslave the non believers, to submit your women and that raping children is ok.
>>56496878
Do you get beheaded for insulting Jesus?
No.
Do we burn down and attack muslim embassies for what ISIS is doing?
No, but muslims do it because a danish guy drew mohammed with a bomb-turban.
Why can't muslims grow some balls and accept that their religion allows for indiscriminate violence as long as the victims are "unbelievers" "munnafiqun" or you are just "defending" yourself?
Violence is a SIN, there should never be a RELIGIOUS excemption on the ban of it.
Only worldly reasons like poverty, greed or plain hate are egligible as they don't drag something that should be the most beautifull thing in the dirt.
Religion.
Fuck this gay earth and you cowards not ready to face the truths.
After all the west accepts that we fuck up, bu tthat seemingly makes us seem weak to zealots.
Islam is evil, and all muslims should be exterminated like the subhuman fucking scum they are.
>>56497165
Non lo so, then I will burn in hell. Stupid argument since we can only operate on the presumption that we're correct.
>>56497347
Ps:
The whole problem is the unification of state and religion in islam, ever law is religious.
For fucks sake.
If you kill a guy for comitting murder it should be because you and your fellow man fail to achieve the ideals imposed upon you by your religion.
One kills/steals/hurts people because ONESELF was not able to rise above.
I take "everyone is a sinner" every day before people claiming to hang people on cranes until they are dead is the will of god.
>>56497929
Islam's totalitarian nature is what makes it so dangerous. It's also why reformation isn't possible and why islam cannot be integrated into modernity.
>>56483399
Glass Islam, Race war now
>>56496305
How the fuck are you browsing 4chan?
>>56497726
It's not really a stuid argument you dumbfuck.
>Stupid argument since we can only operate on the presumption that we're correct.
Normally rational people base the presumption that they're correct on some sort of evidence, your bullshit book written by a camel fucker isn't evidence of anything.
No wonder you dumb muslims inbred monkeys have 82 as the average IQ.
>>56498182
The worst is, people hsut their eyes and prefer to believe its all sun-shine and fairies.
For example, confirmed right wing (i.e. racist) murders in germany since 1990 are 168 if you agree with the highest numbers, police says 75.
Now....germans dying in terror attacks are 103 now, not counting what "germans" ...700 of them..are doing for the IS elsewhere.
if you take into account that we have 10 percent foreigners and only 55 muslims you will see that "not all muslims" is no shield against being blown up by one.
I am so sick of this...we do more for muslim refugees then fucking saudi arabia.
>taking religion any serious in [current year]
Yeah no, praise Wodan.
I actually bought a copy of the koran recently to learn more about islam. I don't have a solid opinion on muslims but some are cool guys and some are not like any other group has bad or dislikable people.
>>56483399
depends on the sect
>>56498810
Same here, but the more I read the more I can see why some nutjobs want to subjugate us.
It makes me mad.
I feel threatened by ISlam, not muslims.
Big difference.
>>56483399
If they keep their religion/themselves inside their own borders, it's ok. Otherwise major dislike
>>56498777
lol you're probably as much as a mong or more of a mong than the people who actually follow religion
you suck, do you feel special because you're an atheist refugee? want some free cash?
>>56498831
Alevites are great guys.
>>56483598
t. mehmet
>>56498899
might i add that i don't participate in any religions but putting people down just because you're a neckbeard fedora-tipping atheist doesn't mean you're a superior person
if religions stay in their own borders im all for it, just dont try to stomp all over other people's heritage and culture like the refugees are doing
>>56498899
Did I trigger you, you fat, unlifting piece of beta shit? Americans are literally bigger subhumans than *rabs.
Great food. Kebab is awesome.
>>56483593
>mfw you literally described Moses
Alien culture I won't pretend to understand, but I will not treat them worse or better for it.
I'd really love to go to Turkey though, despite not having any relations to anyone there. Something about Anatolia just interests me and I don't know what it is.
>>56499222
>Something about Anatolia just interests me and I don't know what it is.
Their genitals, most likely.
>>56499222
You want to visit the great cave churches, nothing wrong there. After all asia minor is one of the first big places for christianity.
>>56498414
>Rouhani!
>>56498472
lol why are you so angry Roberto?
Religion is based on the concept of God which is a supernatural entity, for such an entity by definition we cannot have any empirical evidence, there are plenty logical arguments for both God and Islam which you have decided to ignore since Hume. He taught you to close your eyes, put your hand on your ears and shout "where da evidance be at" whenever presented with logical arguments.
Islam is the only religion that takes itself seriously, the rest are a joke, the Catholic Church has a lot to learn from Islam
>>56499435
As in, reinstating crusades and forgetting about forcing yourself on others being evil?
Maybe.
>>56499435
>the Catholic Church has a lot to learn from Islam
all Christians churches learned how to make money without killing. Islam is on a his way to be graduated in it
>>56499435
First world countries don't need to take religion serious. Something you'll never learn.
>>56499435
goDDD SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>56496878
>t. Someone who knows shit about the New Testament or Jeebus.
Jesus wasn't diddling little girls and waging a war in which he never stopped violently conquering people who didn't think like him.
>>56496305
>Jews liked us, but fuck 'em lmao
Iran is "JUST - the country".
>>56496878
That was the case till the Reformation happend and split churches started to become a thing and the Catholic Church reformed itself as reaction as well.
The Islam never had a reformation.
>>56499769
You're such a white male
>>56499769
The difference is he did not write that book himself and christianity has enough poles (hah!) so I can choose my peace loving variant of it.
10 commandments and the Sermon on the Mount.
Bamm, done.
>>56499809
We just want Jerusalem back man, I personally like Jews, they're a resilient people. The general feeling about Jews in Iran is like one of the least hateful in the middle east.
>>56497334
>Yes and you are autistic if you thought I was using that term super precisely
Irony.
>lately on 4chan meme is being used as a synonymous of bullshit.
No it's not.
>Either way while Christianity has indirectly caused a lot of wars and tragedies
Indeed it has.
>the actual message of Christianity is to be peaceful and loving to everyone.
And you seriously think people follow that? We're not talking about Christianity here anyway, we're talking about Catholicism which I think is a religion founded on unnatural, counter productive and weakening principles which has severely crippled the western world.
>The message of Islam is to slaughter and enslave the non believers, to submit your women and that raping children is ok.
Looks like we have a real Quran expert here.
>>56499562
That's why shit is going wrong here t bh fedoras work almost like condoms which is why every western country is importing immigrants which are needed for our infinite economic growth now you could say that the idea of infinite economic groeth is stupid but to stay competetive he government still adheres to it.
>>56497074
>Going on heaven
>Think you're going to heaven
Fat chance Reza, you're burning in hell with the rest off us.
>>56500168
This is wierd, it is their and our most holy city and muslims start an intifada because they can't keep the temple mound to themselves.
It can't be for religious reason ,can it?
After all you allready have 2 other more holy sites.
A crappy religion which impacts the mindset of its followers negatively.
It was going downhill (relative to the rest of the world) with the end of the Golden Age, but since the demise of the Gunpowder Empires, it's been in a virtual free-fall.
Perhaps its more socio economic and region. Malays, Indons and brunei are fine. Besides being mildly annoyed having to make a lot of ways for just a couple person like no pork/alcohol on a certain hangout. Everything else is cool tho, no beheading and stuff.
>>56500240
>doesn't believe in god
>must wear fedora and be an unfucked autist irl
I can tell that you yet have to leave your basement you stupid idiot.
>>56500408
I am leaving my basement that's why I'm saying this ,atheists are generally more favourable towards hedonism which means that people get too busy to have children which then results in the shit I explained.
>>56499425
>Rouhani
What do you mean?
>>56500618
Hedonism pretty much has age limits though.
>>56497347
God Anarchists/Political movements are shit. They have almost as much blood on their hands as Islam.
I hate Islam but I like Turkey because of Anzu.
>>56486376
I piss on Hagia Sophia on a daily basis and spit on those roads that Justinian set foot
>>56499114
I think CEO might be the Irish guy not an American.
>>56499207
>Moses
>Pedophile
I'll need some proofs.
>>56500733
At leats they don't pretend to be sent by god.
>>56500271
An American's hell is to have the most delicious burger in the world in front of him but not being able to touch, an Iranian's hell is a white guy calling him an Arab 24/7.
>>56500656
4chan isn't banned since the new Mullah in office turkbro.
>>56500314
It is our first Qibla before Mecca and it is a place from where the prophet peace be upon him and his pure progeny went to heaven. Muslims took the land by force and laid down roots, it is ours as much as it is theirs.
Like any other religion Islam also discriminates against unbelievers not being allowed to pray in Muslim mosques.
What matters right now is this: Muslims are the only ones prepared to die and kill for their religion. For the Jews this isn't about religion, it's about home and ethnicity.
>>56501048
You do realise we have nothing against muslims praying in our churches?
A lot of guest workers that immigrated here did that when there were no mosques.
I believe sunnis and muslims in general can't handle not being top dog anymore when your religion asks you to subjugate unbelievers.
Makes being subjugated doubly painfull.
>>56500005
>You're such a white male
What a pointless post. Get the fuck out of Europe.
>>56500685
Yeah limit being 30 or so thats also the limit when women are being suggest to have children at.
>>56500026
>The difference is he did not write that book himself and christianity has enough poles (hah!) so I can choose my peace loving variant of it.
Just like Muhammad possibly only orated (like Hitler with Mein Kampf). Also, Muslim's follow all this shit outside the Koran like the sayings of Muhammad. Which is exactly what defeats the purpose of the unadulterated Koran. Christ's overall message as written down is forgiveness and acceptance.
>>56501257
>antitrumpprotester.jpg
:DDDD
Mohammeds phantom empire just keeps expanding, and for every step taken to reclaim land from the saracens europe takes two steps back by letting the rats infest their cities and capitals. At the current rate you can't even call them steps but a leap into the abyss.
Also reminder that mohammedism destroyed the roman empire after 1000 years of surviving every other threat and if the greatest european civilisation in history couldn't stand against the arab menace what the fuck do you think anyone else can do about it.
You could even go far enough to claim that islam is literally the antibody to european culture and civilisation. It kills and destroys everything it touches and what it doesn't destroy it corrupts. Just look at south spain and the balkans. Irredeemable shitholes and the only thing they have in common is that they got islam'd at some point in history.
>>56500168
>We just want Jerusalem back man
I didn't know Persians were a Levantine people.
>>56501048
That's nice to hear. 4chan is still banned here but fortunately we have google dns.
>>56501236
Yes but modern Christianity isn't a real religion, a proper faith creates discriminates against out-groups because doing so strengthens in-group bonds, a door that is open to everyone doesn't have a function.
>I believe sunnis and muslims in general can't handle not being top dog anymore when your religion asks you to subjugate unbelievers.
This is true, but they will learn. Shia Islam copes much better out of political power though.
>>56501474
ONLY MUSLIMS, NO SUCH THING AS PERSIAN, ETHNICITY IS KUFR ALLAH AKBAR, ONE UMMAH ONE NATION.
>>56501680
Well, if you think hanging gay people from cranes will make you a better person. Please continue.
I don't like it either, but the reason muslims are allowed to live here is the same as with gays.
both are minorities that are rather annoying but we don't presume to judge them.
>>56501048
>An American's hell is to have the most delicious burger in the world in front of him but not being able to touch,
I can't think of far worse things Arab.
