>tfw going to have to vote for Hillary since Trump is going to be the GOP nominee
Is this the darkest timeline?
>>56460865
No, but
>voting for women
fucking KEK
>>56460865
>g to be the GOP nominee
wut?
>>56460865
How did it come to this?
OPEC would embargo us if Hillary got elected
>>56460865
What is GOP?
>>56460865
Hillary Clinton will win
>>56461008
GOP is a shorthand term for the Republican party
>The Republican Party, commonly referred to as the GOP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_%28United_States%29
>voting for a woman
>>56461121
grand old party
the republicans
>>56461121
>>56461157
missed you senpai
>>56461008
GOP is the "grand ol' party". Its another name for republican
>>56460983
this
>>56461108
t. mustafa al-queda
>>56460865
So basically America is gone as a religious right country?
Man, the times we live in are truly interesting
Hopefully Poland will remain christian
We're fucked. I hope the next 4 years go by fast.
>>56461278
bush destroyed the religious right
>>56461108
Daily reminder that Clinton played a part in causing the current mess in the Middle East and Libya
>>56460865
>Trump is bad meme
Daily reminder there is no real criticism for Trump other than baseless claims of "racism" and "sexism".
>>56461278
Trump openly mocks religion, so pretty much, yeah.
>>56461278
Christianity will be seen as the religion of servants and slaves in the new world.
I'll be converting to sunni Islam.
It looks like Trump is going to be the Republican nominee, which means Hillary automatically wins (since whites are a minority and Trump is completely unelectable). Hillary will basically be an extension of Obama's presidency, which is a steady forward path.
Why don't you like republicans?
>>56461416
Hilary is more right wing and less pro black than Obama.
>>56461398
He's openly Christian though.
>>56461310
Not Bush, but the overall cultural process in the USA
And in addition you now have a ravaging social division in the country. At least there are no muslims to take you over
>>56461483
social division is as old as reconstruction
>>56461466
He pretends to be Christian because he was running on the GOP ticket but everybody knows its a fucking joke.
>>56461463
She sounds like crazy nut and Trump not sane too so it's funny to watch
>>56461555
Yeah, but then it was more of a division on whether the USA is a confederacy or a united federal state
Now however, when christianity is going to play a way smaller role than it used to, the US will somewhat follow the degenerate steps of western Europe
>>56461565
Believe what ever you want to believe, vote for Ted "kill the gays" Cruz instead.
>>56461688
What makes you think I'm religious?
You can sign the petition to stump the Trump if you care about America
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/world_vs_trump_v5/?bcwfWbb&v=74058&cl=9666020505
>>56461684
you don't need religion to be conservative
and you don't need religion to be anti-immigrantion
>>56461796
You cannot stump the unstumpable
Cascadia and independent New England when
>>56460865
>not voting for trump
GET EM OUTTA HERE! OUT!
>>56461800
Conservative without religion is pretty much liberalism which declares that it's for a limited state and low taxes, meaning that no one will judge anyone's behavior, people will become totally indifferent towards morality
I wonder tho, how will it take for the USA to lose its superpower state, because ill society in the end leads to an ill state
>>56460865
Wait, white Americans would rather vote for Hillary over Trump?
Why?
>>56461983
Conservatism is poop.
Nationalism + socialism is the way to go.
>>56461796
Totally worked so far
>>56461375
How about that he supports protectionism which is bad for the economy? It reduces competition, which makes goods and services more expensive while decreasing the quality.
>>56462031
>thinking any of the current ideologies are "good"
>>56462083
Bad for the economy, good for the citizens.
Guess which one actually matters for non-Jews?
>>56461463
PROOFS? Hillary is a hawk with foreign policy, but on domestic issues she's been courting the black vote pretty well.
>>56460865
>voting for women
Didn't you learn literally nothing from us, Chile and Brazil?..
>>56462083
>(citation needed)
>>56461796
Is this even possible? Petitioning for someone to not be allowed to do things?
>>56462031
Socialism is a rebellion against the natural, hierarchical state of a society and will never work
Nationalism is ok when it has a proper, non-french shape
>>56461278
Nah.
Mostly just some young city slickers and some young left wingers.
They're a vocal minority.
They usually calm down in their 30's, some even become born-again Christians lel.
>>56462148
And I forgot, fucking Germany man..
>>56461983
>this whole line of reasoning
>>56461796
I'd rather stump an ANTIFA Slovakian.
>>56462007
Many would, but not the majority. But because whites are like 65% of the US, progressive whites + minorities will almost always outnumber conservatives.
>>56462083
>A liberal talking about reduced competition and quality
Hilary and Bernie both believe threshold merit is better than Competitive merit and support Affirmative action, bad statistics and quotas. But I'm sure you believe the multi-billionaire entrepreneur will tank the economy.
>>56462215
And us
>>56461983
religion as a political force was never a thing in the us since the beginning because of the church and state
religion will never go away in america
>>56462083
How about that Hillary supports protectionism which is bad for the economy? It reduces competition, which makes goods and services more expensive while decreasing the quality.
>>56462131
>good for the citizens.
Nope. Paying more for decreased quality is not good for citizens.
>>56462297
>>A liberal
Nope. Just not a Trump supporter. I'm more of a centrist who would prefer a competent center right politician as president.
>>56462232
>this whole picture and everything it implies
>>56462338
Tariffs do not necessarily do what you're saying. Also, why are we discussing something the president has no control over?
Protectionism in the 21st century sense does. But tariffs do not equal protectionism. They just usually go together.
Ever heard of an optimum tariff?
>>56462305
So twice now I've gotten the
>if you don't support x you support y
argument.
>>56462386
Name a better alternative to trump then if you're going to talk about the economy. I'm indifferent about the man himself but he'd help Canada. You're our biggest trading partner by a lot.
>>56462386
Yeah then you have no one to vote for. Even Kasich is socially conservative and heavily religious.
Welcome to 2016.
I voted for McCain in 2008.
I voted for Romney in 2012.
If Trump's the nominee, I'll vote for Hillary. It seems the GOP should not be in the Executive Branch of the government for another 4 years. It'll be a slap in the face for Trump's comments on women. I still think Trump is a plant for Hillary's campaign.
>>56462433
>Also, why are we discussing something the president has no control over?
Because Trump is talking like he has control over those things. It is the job of the president to be the leader of his party, so IF he can get congressional republicans on his side he would sort of have power over it.
>>56462505
>Name a better alternative to trump
Why? I admit all the candidates are shit, doesn't mean I have to refrain from criticizing them.
>>56462458
>even though there are two choices for president, degrading one and not the other does not reveal my preferences
>>56460865
>voting for a war criminal
You fucked up.
Memes aside, can /int/ name even one reason why one shouldn't vote for Trump?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lK6pz_nktM
>>56462549
>Trump is a plant
That's 30 years in the making
He's been talking about elections since first bush
>>56462305
Trump isn't protectionist though, he's just in favour of economically bullying the countries that are abusing the system and forcing US companies to come back.
>>56462549
His comments on women are tame as fuck though, they're just insults that happen to be directed towards a woman.
Also Trump will absolutely devastate Hillary in a debate, there's way too much dirt.
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DEP0RT
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>>56462583
>degrading one and not the other does
Ah, so because I didn't talk about the other in response to a comment that wasn't about Hillary, I automatically support her? Gee, great logic there.
>>56462549
>It'll be a slap in the face for Trump's comments on women
[citation needed]
>>56462572
>doesn't mean I have to refrain from criticizing them.
Obviously, but if you're criticizing one candidates platform, compare and contrast with the others and pick your poison.
>>56462572
>Trump
>leader of the Republican party ever
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH
Trump cannot implement any of his economic plans. All that should matter is his foreign policy, which I believe is the best of all the candidates.
Therefore I voted for him. As long as my president has good foreign policy arguments, and isn't advocating for economic socialism or more economic neoliberalism I'm okay.
Words on economics != actions. Especially with Presidents.
>>56462720
>compare and contrast with the others and pick your poison.
How about you fuck off? You're just doing this to shut down any criticism of Trump.
>>56462729
Trump is the only candidate that would not wage another war.
He's the best for people outside the US.
>>56462690
No. I never said you did. And indicating preferences does not reveal support.
But when you attack one candidate over a policy without attacking the other candidate who supports the same policy, 98% of the time you are revealing your preferences. It's something called bias.
I hope your autistic mind can understand that.
>>56460865
Does socialism work?
>>56462195
Is slavery part of natural hierarchical order?
Because I wish to own a man and make him so miserable his suffering would become legendary even in hell.
>>56460865
I'm just not voting for either, man. If Trump wins then we probably deserve him.
>>56462829
He was replying to a post saying there's no valid criticism for Trump.
>>56462791
How did you even arrive at that?
>Le epic fence sitter everybody is shit maymay
Trump is the only answer Imo but I'm not telling you who to vote for. It's cool if you can't give me any reasoning to your decisions. You don't need to lash out like a child.
>>56462791
No the leaf is trying to point out your criticism of Trump should also be directed at Hillary.
Does this not make sense>>56462829
>>56462829
Dude, this conversation started off when I responded to this comment >>56461375 . They said there is no real criticism of Trump, so I took that as a challenge to give a legitimate criticism of him. If they had said the same thing about Hillary, I would have responded with a criticism of Hillary.
>>56462847
Slavery as a legal institution isn't natural, have you not read about the history of Europe, the USA etc.?
Equal society however will never work, because even societies without slavery aren't equal
>>56462897
And that post was replying to OP discussing the TWO candidates.
>>56462600
Too many policies he hasn't detailed with anything but it's gonna be great or we'll fix it together
>>56462924
>Does this not make sense>>56462829
Yes, it doesn't. I'm sorry everyone ITT has really short attention spans, but I LITERALLY jumped in when someone asked for a legitimate criticism of Trump, and didn't say anything about Hillary.
>>56462982
The other candidates are the same, it's hard to talk about policy when you only have a minute or so to talk.
>>56462962
Except for the fact slaves existed since the beginning of mankind and still do.
>>56462953
And that anon was replying to OP who was discussing the two candidates.
>>56462250
>he is not opposing fascism
as a Mexican American (legal, don't worry buds), am I crazy to vote for Trump? Hillary is a war criminal and a liar, and as our friends have pointed out, women as leaders of a country is a disaster always.
Trump only wants refugees and illegals out right? he doesn't actually hate legal Mexicans? :(
>>56463015
Look>>56462966
>>56462982
Tell me Hillary's policies. Or Cruz's.
Politicians in America promise the world and deliver India.
You don't get elected by promising India, and no one does.
>>56462962
Is it just be or do conservatives confuse equality before law with physiological equality?
>>56463080
I'm fairly certain you can't be deported if you're legal. Don't worry m8.
I'll vote for trump if hillary wins the dem nominee.
>>56463029
>And that anon was replying to OP who was discussing the two candidates.
I'm having trouble keeping up with your mental gymnastics. It is completely normal for a conversation to progress and not be laser focused on the starting point. I was simply responding to the comment asking for a criticism of Trump. Nowhere in that comment or the OP did that obligate me to dedicate an equal amount of time discussing Hillary.
>>56461375
>no real criticism for Trump
lmao you have to be kidding me. He's flip flopped on almost all major issues central to his campaign, an obvious con man. He will literally say anything he thinks he needs to say to get elected. He views people protesting at his rallies as a violation of his free speech, while simultaneously wanting to alter libel laws so that he can more easily sue people.
Forget all the 'racist' 'sexist' stuff, the guy has the least details pertaining to how he'll actually do what he intends, and there's no way of knowing what he intends considering he is completely full of shit.
I'd rather see him than Hillary though, we know what we'll get with that old cunt and at least with Trump it's a roll of the dice with the possibility of positive improvement.
You just can't pretend he is what he isn't.
>>56460865
you mean the dankest timeline
>>56463080
No he probably LOVES them.
Trump cannot deport illegals. You get this right? Trump isn't our future dictator. He's gonna be in control of a veto that can be overruled, and our armed forces with congressional oversight.
>>56463080
No he doesn't. He wants illegals out. The oldest liberal trick in the fucking book is to call their opponents irrational racists, nazis, and like hitler. Baseless accusations. I know quite a few legal Mexicans voting Trump.
>>56463167
tl;dr he's a politician!
>>56462549
nigga you is hella dumb
>>56461463
>Hillary will be progressive because it is mainstream to be so, unless her donors tell her in some instances to completely abandon her principles. Ultimately she will do whatever is necessary to maintain the status quo
fixed
>>56462982
Hillary is literally the same though.
Honestly, the only ones who have clear policies and are still in the run is Bernie and Kasich.
>>56463278
he is a special kind of a politician: a populist demagogue
Trump's a shit, but Hillary is a monster.
>>56463167
>He's flip flopped
Haha turn off MSNBC. It's called evaluating and weighing your options and viewpoints. That's a good thing. Every other candidate has actually "flip flopped" when they went from criticizing his platform to half ass emulating him for support. Trump researches everything he does and he's not a stupid man.
>>56460865
I would make fun of you Ameribro, but 2017 looks just as dark from over here.
We are in this together, best ally.
>>56463352
They're all doing that though, even Bernie.
>>56463397
>cruz stealing trump's platform
>cruz calling trump the establishment candidate
>>56463152
I was simply using your logic against you.
>>56462549
>I voted
>>56463540
And you're fucking shit at it. Can't you just admit you were wrong and/or have a short attention span and forgot that I was specifically replying to a comment that was only about Trump?
>>56460865
Trump isn't even the worst of the remaining Republican candidates. What the fuck is Kasich even doing? Is he promoting something?
And you don't have to vote for Hilary. You could be reasonable and vote for an independent candidate.
>>56463506
>cruz calling trump a bigot and criticizing the building a wall meme
>cruz caved and said he'd build a wall after it gained so much traction
Stones in glass houses.
>>56463352
>Politicians that do what they say they will are populist demagogues
Well thanks democracy.
>>56463167
As far as fiscal policies go (which is objectively the only policy that actually matters), he's been very consistent about his plans and ideas.
Any rational person will reevaluate their stance as much as needed. He modified his stance on complete non issues anyway so really theres no problem.
>>56463278
>>56463278
Yeah the guy that constantly says "i'm not a politician"
>He ACTUALLY thinks his vote matters
This is fucking hilarious.
>>56461796
Would it be a shit country it still wouldn't work, but do you really expect the US of A to accept a slight over their sovereignty ?
Americans are nothing if not overly patriotic, let the whole world tell them that "this" is a shit idea for America & the world and watch half or so of them go full contrarians and do it nonetheless because Yes, they can and "USA #1".
In any case, by all laws and organization that matters in this world, no amount of angry foreigner random people have the legitimacy to dispute the sovereignty of a people on its own land.
Unless you effectively invade them and overthrow their governments, in which case good luck since we're speaking of the US.
Don't be a delusional bug.
>>56463634
>do what they say they
Trump has never held public office here. We don't know if he'll do what he says he'll do.
>>56463607
Kasich is just there to steal Trump votes.
>>56460865
It could be darker. We've still yet to see if the GOP decides to be even more divisive than it's known for being and put someone like Paul Ryan as their nominee out of spite. Then we'll have independent Trump saying even more outlandish shit because he doesn't have to pretend to be a Republican anymore.
No, this is our timeline:
>Trump wins
>Gets into office with an overwhelmingly democrat Congress, elected so because people (even his now supporters) were scared he would fuck up the country too much
>Gets ABSOLUTELY nothing done
>Loses 2020 by a huge landslide, I'm talking 49 states going blue
>Kanye West becomes the 46th POTUS
>Last 8 years, successfully repeals the 22th amendment, and becomes God Emperor of the West
>>56462195
I'm curious, what do you mean by a "non-french" shape ?
>>56463596
Your logic is sound, but using common sense when the anon you replied to replied to OP who is discussing TWO candidates, 98% of the time when you criticize only one candidate over the policy the other candidate also holds, it reveals your preferences.
Does this not make sense to you? You think who you reply to has 100% sway over what the relevance of your words imply?
Trump and Hillary support the same protectionist policies. If you criticize only Trump about that ITT then you very likely are revealing you prefer Hillary.
Is that clear enough for you?
>>56463397
You're a fucking delusional idiot. He has literally reversed his opinions on issues that conveniently are more appealing to a conservative base. I'm not saying those other assclowns are better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcUCLwWCihE
>>56463643
He hasn't been consistent with fiscal policy, he has only been consistent with trade policy. His views on other subjects are extremely recent. You can make excuses for him all you want, he's a liar and what's worse is he will deny he even held previous views that he's espoused.
>>56463663
>a guy running for political office is not a politician
You understand how politicians work right? They lie and pander to get elected.
>>56460865
>voting for Hillary
>>56463697
So assume nothing. Just elect based upon the memes.
That's how I'll do it. Who will give me more enjoyment the next four years?
I personally think the president is a lot less powerful in the 21st century than Congress.
>>56462031
>Nationalism + socialism is the way to go.
>>56463836
>conveniently are more appealing to a conservative base
>conveniently
It's called better ideas beat worse ones. That's how the free market of ideas work. People, especially candidates DO change their minds. Regardless you make it sound like that would be a bad thing?
>>56463836
>trusting the super pac that released this advert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkSRJSUY0vs
kill yourself my man
>>56462549
>It'll be a slap in the face for Trump's comments on women.
>>56463698
Actually, Kasich won Ohio because it was an open primary.
According to the official exit poll 8% of voters were Democrats, and 27% were independents.
Trump is winning almost every closed primary.
I'd say Kasich being in or not is a wash for Trump.
>want to vote because it's important
>no matter who i vote for, i would be voting for someone i didn't want to win
>>56463783
>Does this not make sense to you?
It doesn't, because I was responding to someone who SPECIFICALLY asked for a legitimate criticism ONLY of Trump. IF I had said that out of the blue and only in response to OP, you'd have a point.
>>56463044
>he's a fascist under the mask of antifascism and progress
>>56460865
WWWOOOOW LOOK YOU DONT SUPPORT /POL/'S CHOICE FOR BEST CANDIDATE AND WANT TO VOTE FOR COMMUNIST JEW NIGGERS
UR A KEK
GET IT C U C K
KEKOLD
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>>56464028
>Only /pol/ support Trump
>Most Americans are /pol/
The American voting system is retarded desu
>>56464076
>Most Americans support Trump
>>56464008
You're logic is sound, but common sense shows that you are wrong.
See I replied to OP before that anon even posted. The Leaf and another American thought the same thing as me when you posted.
Your pure logic can be great, but if everyone thinks your being biased, maybe you need to recognize LOGIC != how the world works.
Give me a criticism of Hillary please.
>>56460865
>voting for Shillary
>ever
>EVER
mfw
man, i know it's bad, but anybody's better than that felonious grandmother
>>56464076
>>Most Americans are /pol/
I'm not him, but I doubt most Americans even support Trump. He'll probably get a lot of people to begrudgingly vote for him because they think Hillary is worse, but most people are not enthusiastic Trump supporters. And even among Trump supporters, /pol/ is a specific subset of his supporters that is pretty different from mainstream Trump supporters.
>>56464028
>so far no one has even used those words or mentioned /pol/
>>56460865
Yeah, I'm gonna vote for Hillary with the taste of vomit in my mouth
>>56464154
Are you having a fucking stroke? Stop damage controlling so hard.
>>56464208
I think we're underestimating how popular he really is. Time will tell.
>>56464172
She's coming back for you
>>56464220
Why?
I'd just flip a coin
>>56464154
>See I replied to OP before that anon even posted.
Holy fucking shit you're getting so dug in. Sure, you probably posted ITT before the first person I responded to, but you were not having a conversation with him. The person I responded to quoted OP his his post, so in the conversation I was in, OP was the first, the person I was responding to was second, and I was the third comment in that conversation. You were not a part of that specific conversation, what you posted doesn't matter.
If you really want a criticism of Hillary, she's in bed with the banks and wall street that keep fucking us over, and she's a war hawk.
>>56464253
Nigga from my second response I admitted anon's logic was fine.
But common sense is exactly what I spelled out.
It's why three separate anon's thought the same thing as me
Look>>56462083
>>56464430
You three just went into damage control mode because someone brought up a somewhat valid criticism.
If Hillary wins, I move to Cali.
>>56464395
No. By sayin I posted first I'm explaining that I understood the cotext of the thread and wasn't just "short attention span" like you claim.
Your post was in response to an anon who was replying to OP. So I kept that in mind when you only criticized Trump even though Hillary supports the same policy.
I already said your logic was sound, but common sense shows you are wrong. Three separate anons thought like me.
This is pointless.
>>56464486
It was a pathetic criticism that rests upon strict logic.
There's a reason all three of us responded quickly with the same thought.
I'm done here. 4chan is autistic.
>>56463846
Not all politicians
>>56463944
The issue with Trump is that it's completely disingenuous. Why on Earth would he suddenly be pro-life? Why did he go from liking and admiring Obama to fucking accusing him of being born in Africa? You think these are all 'better ideas'? Fuck outta here
>>56463945
>Literally videos of Trump saying his opinions
>heh nope don't wanna believe it kys if you don't love Trump :^)
>>56464563
>Three separate anons thought like me.
>three anons panicked and deflected to Hillary/accusing me of being a liberal when faced with a valid criticism of Trump
FTFY
>>56464208
I'm half expecting him to rebrand himself very quickly as of now. He has the preselection in the bag, so he's got to make himself more appealing to the general population. I wouldn't be surprised if he takes some position to the left of Hilary (such as on healthcare) just because she's so establishment and there's nothing she can do about it.
>>56464666
>Why on Earth would he suddenly be pro-life?
Have you ever actually seriously considered abortion? I really doubt you have and you're probably a smelly neet and not a billionaire businessman.
>>56464154
haha dude you already lost just shut the fuck up pussy
>>56464666
>completely disingenuous.
But it's not. Name a politician who's never changed his stance. Is it not when other people do it? He even went on a tangent talking about his decision to change stances on torture because he researched it more and talked with modern military advisers. Why wouldn't he go after Obama after Obama called him a mistake. To do otherwise would make him look week. It's tact. People do change their minds. It's shows he has no confirmation bias if he's so willing to research some facts. Why did Obama get major support for his "hurr We're going to shut down Guantanamo" and then just completely abandon that idea? He learned firsthand the logistics. You're clearly biased here.
Holy shit are you people retarded? I like Trump too, but do you REALLY believe he actually takes the stuff he says seriously? He's obviously doing this to appeal to the conservatives and if you don't realize that you're stupid idiots.
>>56464922
He's a billionaire businessman, why would he lie his way to president just for power? He already has all the power a man could want.
>>56464922
Everybody wants to win and appeal to more voters but the subtle difference is he's not bought and paid for. Might be surprising to you but he might actually mean the things he says.
The one who tried to assassinate Trump was Clinton's supporter anyway, not Bernie's supporter.
>>56464981
>why would people that are addicted to power lie to get more power?
People that want positions of power are often not normal people, they're addicts. Studies show that CEOs have psychopaths over represented in their ranks and doctors are like the least likely to be psychopaths. People who do different types of jobs have different motivations.
>>56465080
Studies also show a lot of psychopaths choose careers like being a doctor or... a teacher. Like Trudeau.
>>56460865
>voting for Abu Baghdadi's top weapon supplier
>>56464981
Because he's a narcissist
>>56464922
No
A lot of us are first time voters, NEETs, autistic, or saying we're going to vote even though we aren't.
Don't take 4chan a objectively representative.
>>56465231
And what about Clinton? Obama?
The Clintons earned $250 million over the last 10 years doing speeches.
They donated $80 million of that to the Clinton Foundation to get tax relief.
>tfw no attractive people running for office
>>56464727
Ha nice defense, and yes I've thought a lot about abortion. Rarely does a middle aged man go from Pro-choice to pro-life, but it's pretty common with politicians who lie about what they believe.
But your'e right to be honest, he's really rich so he is also the perfect human.
>>56460865
>Is this the darkest timeline?
Nope. Democrats aren't perfect, but Hilary is the best candidate of all the nominees.
>Hilary 2016 already in the talks since she jumped on to Obama band wagon in 2008
>Republicans know they have no chance thus threw out some trash to get wrecked by Hilary like Trump (a headliner they picked or secret Clinton double agent), Rubio(lame manlet who isn't important), and Cruz (the guy who everyone hates anyways).
Experience, connections, funding, record, etc
Clinton wins every way hands down in just about every aspect.
Sure Trump and Bennie talk a good game but they are nothing but talk.
Someone needs to shop Hilary on to this pic.
>>56464899
Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders are two in recent memory that have held extremely consistent views throughout their political careers. Trump has changed multiple views in a short period of time in order to be more appealing to conservatives. Of course it's disingenuous when others do it, but he does it more than them, and then denies that he does it in the first place. I'm not the biased one, you are. That is why your only way to defend Trump is to compare him to politicians who he calls 'talkers' and 'liars', showing that he's actually very similar to them.
>>56464981
Wow you're a fucking idiot, The President is much much more powerful than a real estate mogul.
>>56465661
He may have had an existential crisis and realised the only worth of humanity is producing offspring, I know a lot of older people who have changed their opinions later in life, when people get old they have a lot more time to think about this sort of thing.
>But your'e right to be honest, he's really rich so he is also the perfect human.
I was more pointing out a billionaire businessman doesn't have much time to be thinking about abortion when he's running a global business empire.
>>56461375
Net migration has been negative for the past decade. Most illegals come via expired visas. The I-10 has not been finished. Building a wall would be a total failure. Trump is a con man. Preffering a con man to a con woman is not much of a step up.
>trump on isis
>theres a lotta hate we gotta figure out whats going on
>a 60 year old conflict that is constantly being studied by diplomats and scholars
How did all this happen, anons? Why in 2016 are ~100 million americans voting for a populist demagogue? This has to be more than just being discontent with the economy, it has to be something deeper than that right?
I pulled the 100 million figure out of my ass since i figure trump has the support of about 30% of the population, but maybe even more millions would vote for him.
This is just a really shocking development.
I'm relieved Hillary will win, she is a continuation of Obama which I like overall, he's been a good president even though he's been unable to pursue his politics, that's not his fault. He's been a lot better than Bush that's for sure.
>>56466158
>Why in 2016 are ~100 million americans voting for a populist demagogue
But all of the candidates are populist demagogues, all the others have dropped out already.
>>56466217
If you think that then you do not understand what a populist demagogue is.
>>56466248
All of them are though, don't you watch the debates?
>>56465817
Ron paul changes his mind all the time m8. He's a goddamn conspiracy theorist. Being consistent in your views isn't always a good thing when new information comes to light. Trump changed some of his stances when confronted by how he might of been wrong and sought out experts. That is a good thing. You're calling him disingenuous based on a subjective opinion.
>That is why your only way to defend Trump is to compare him to politicians who he calls 'talkers' and 'liars', showing that he's actually very similar to them.
And you just compared him to Ron paul and Sanders. Comparing and contrasting candidates is the only thing we can do when deciding who to vote for unless you want to run yourself(kek). I don't need to defend trump. He's the one making the most sense. Me, like Trump don't have confirmation bias. If you can sway me with your argument and it's convincing, I won't simply tell you too fuck off because I want to be consistent with my previous beliefs.
>>56461463
>lets end the deportations
t. hillary
first time I heard her talking which was yesterday
>>56466158
You could't get more Swede, Sweden.
>>56463192
came here to post this, my Islamic brother
>>56465523
TRUDEAU'D
>>56461463
>Hilary is more right wing and less pro black than Obama.
>less pro black than Obama.
Yep you know NOTHING about the Clintons.
The black community wouldn't love the Clintons if Bill and Hilary whores both their asses out to them all. Blacks voted Obama because he was black. They actually like the Clintons because the Clintons were pro-minority as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tXv_PJPycA
>>56466158
>>56466571
>>56466158
of course youre releived about hillary, the merkel wannabe swede-german super savior
she's about the most mediocre thing that could happen to usa, just like obongo
>not voting for Trump
Its like you want Hillary in office
>>56466571
Trump is already claimed
>>56463743
i do believe even if trumps gonna lose, elections have changed for ever for america.
from now one every election will be more meme worthy and edgy our controversial then the other, just cause people see it works making them having a change.
if you didn't think Americans fucking up the the learning and history channel up, ooh boy the elections gonna be next big thing they entertainment-nize.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGUNPMPrxvA
also people do forget the default woman votes Hilary will get, but there are many Americans that think Obama is the anti-christ so idk.
default racist votes and other shit will vote trump too.
>>56460865
I honestly don't think I can put myself behind a candidate who strongly supports Israel and Netanyahu, is anti-environmentalist, and has flip-flopped back and forth on pretty much every single issue more times than any other public figure of the last 30 years.
Hillary may be rotten and have a billion fucking skeletons in her closet, but people only make a big deal out of them because they're already publicly known, what with virtually every politician being a Tricky Dick with a hundred different -gates waiting to be unmasked.
That being said, Nixon was a great president.
>>56460865
>She's going to jail
>They're building a solid case against her
>I hope she wins, than will she have to serve time?
It's ironic that both David Duke's white supremacist posse and vast numbers of Zionist Jews enthusiastically support Trump even while each one sees the other as the all-time singular, paramount enemy of all humankind, while Trump himself probably doesn't give a shit and just wants build the Great Wall of America and continue various unconstitutional measures aimed at Muslims in the U.S.
>>56469114
>>56460865
I didn't know that Ted had shills on /int/ too
>>56469323
>unconstitutional
Literally nothing in your constitution about not letting foreigners into a sovereign nation
>>56463674
>he is too cynical to take advantage in the most influential democracy in the world
Wew lad. 2kool4skool?
Our democracy is far from perfect but it's still a democracy. The only thing that makes your vote not matter is you not casting it. The numbers add up. The numbers are what the delegates and superdelegates look at. The people may be herded but they have smartphones these days that can detect the first scent of bullshit. Whether they like that smell or not is what determines how your tax dollar is spent.
>>56469323
>unconstitutional
It is 100% constitutional to keep any kind of foreigner out
How fucking retarded are you to think that diversity was ever on the minds of the founding fathers when one of the reasons for the american revolution was jamaican, german and irish soldiers fucking shit up in american cities?
>>56469555
The Republicans and Democrats are private institutions
They are not under any law required to honor the popular vote for a particular candidate
They are parasites, they use our tax money and control of our government to put themselves at an advantage in terms of funding and airtime over third parties and independent candidates
A vote for Trump is a vote to further dismantle/change the Republican Party and 4 years of Prime Time TV Presidency
A vote for Hilary is a vote for more war and 'muh too big to fail friends on wall street' shennanigans
A vote for Bernie is weed lamo free stuff and more memes
If you don't think Trump and Bernie race for POTUS would be the most fun you have top tier shit taste.Hilary voters are the the worst kinds of people.
>>56463343
This
>>56462549
Not wanting to vote for him is one thing, but not wanting to vote for him because of his "comments on women" is just plain retarded, the kind of shit only Buzzfeed readers who listen to the same echoed rhetoric could think.
You do realize that, by opposing Islam, he's supporting the most significant plight for women's rights this day in age, right?
>>56460983
/thread
>>56462600
Censorship of the internet, wire-tapping, lack of substance in many political claims, expressing a desire to kill innocent civilians because of the crimes of their relatives (I hope he's exaggerating but it just shows how anti-freedom he is), etc.
>>56470197
>>56460983
normally I would agree but...
>Anti-Immigration party winning support in Germany is headed by a grill
Saving Germany >> voting for grill
>>56469498
>>56469565
sure, because muslims who were born in the U.S. years before 9/11 and whose relatives had furthermore been either born in or moved to the U.S. long before even that are foreigners and guilty of being terrorists until proven otherwise. oh sorry I forgot that 100% of ALL muslims in the U.S. came here only in the wake of recent middle eastern conflicts because being factually accurate either on here or on /pol/ automatically makes you a liberal c u c k, forget the issue of being "politically correct". they're suspect because of their religion and their ancestry and without constitutionally valid premises our courts already decided years ago that the fourteenth amendment doesn't apply to them. so legally they're foreigners because people who look like them and follow the same religion happen to be foreigners, and because many of those such foreigners are terrorists every last one of them must be for the sake of national security.
and you dumbfucks all actually consider yourselves "libertarians".
>>56461375
He's a fuckin' idiot, pal.
>>56463343
>implying trump actually can or will change the status quo or otherwise somehow manage not to disappoint tens of millions of his supporters
>>56470224
Shit, you're right..
USA friends, take a moment and think of the Five basic protections in the 1st Amendment of Le Constitution.
Post results, everyone should get this right or you shouldn't be voting in the first place.
>>56470290
If he doesn't change the status quo with his army of support, he will do a good job of shining a light on how rigged and corrupt our political system is. That would be the first step towards a much-needed revolution.
>>56470224
kick out all the dindu refugees, but don't make an ideology out of it or you'll just doom yourself
>>56470313
Life, liberdy, and the pursuid of burger :DDD
>>56462301
What could possibly be causing him to laugh in this scenario?
>>56470242
But that's literally not what Trump is advocating for you fucking idiot. He's not going to deport Muslims who are legal citizens. He's going to limit Muslims and people coming from the middle east because there isn't a good way of vetting islamic terrorism yet and there has been a global terrorist crisis now for a few decades. That's literally the smartest thing you can do when you're at war with extremists that fight in plain clothes and use immigration as a weapon. There is nothing unconstitutional about not letting in new foreigners.
>>56470313
Freedom of press, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of the press, freedom of religion.
>>56470358
and I'm referring to the patriot act you fucking autistic child. but I guess you don't have something exactly like that in canuckistan now do you
>>56470358
You vastly overestimate the power of the president himself.
>>56469605
In most parliaments around the world you aren't voting for the party leader, you're voting for the specific party you deem most fit to assume the role as leader, and then the party members vote for their prime minister
>>56470327
I think she will just give the people what they want. News from the WH will be framed in a 'revolution' mindset rather than changes
>we busted a oil company for a spill, but it's a revolution!!
>>>56470337
Would you mind expanding on that point?
>>56460865
>not voting trump
>believing the media and your leftie friends
>>56470398
Your post was talking about Trumps plan to limit immigration, nothing about the Patriot act. Regardless that's the smart thing to do. Islam is a violent cancer and incompatible with the west. Retarded cuck.
>>56470379
You listed 'freedom of press' twice senpai,
4/5
>>56470415
Maybe, but that was the initial idea Trump proposed that idiots take issue with.
>>56470428
don't turn literally every fucking argument about immigration in europe into calls to begin the much-coveted race war extending to any person, muslim or not, who doesn't meet the classical nazi definition of aryan.
>>56460865
>unironically voting for shillary
>>56470490
I'm surprised some of my ultra liberal friends are siding with the anti-immigration policies. The arguments that the refugees out number some local townships and the rapid changing of the culture are two of the biggest arguments I've heard so far.
Does Trump have anything concrete to say because all i see is him spewing the same shit he did six months ago
>We're gonna make it great again, we're going to win, China is done
Do people still buy this? Isn't the approaching election supposed to enable some actual discussion and not just campaign drivel?
>>56470582
You'll just be ultimately mad and disappointed whether Jew-lover Trump wins or not. No need to try to look super fucking edgy as a means of thinly veiling your extreme self-righteousness.
Since you're not even American and can't vote as one, as far as I'm concerned you have no credible opinion whatsoever.
>>56470455
>being a britfag
>not even knowing left from right
Want to vote for Trump but that's like a fucking backstab to my parents. I don't know what I should do
>>56470698
>Hilary
>not a jew lover
so you're voting for a more corrupt American version of Angela Merkel? And you think that is the answer for our country?
What kind of buttblasted cuck are you?
>>56470815
>>56470698
>sincerely caring about Judaism in politics
>>>/pol/
>>56470790
side with qties, your potential wife is voting Trump.
>>56463397
>Trump researches everything he does and he's not a stupid man.
like how climate change is a hoax and vaccines cause autism? maybe he actually has done his research and is lying about in public to earn the supprt of the most intellectually degenerate people in the country, but there are currently no definitive indications that this is so.
>Voting against cuties in favor of niggers/spics
shiggy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tXv_PJPycA
>>56470695
no
that's what all politicians do, spew unrealistic stuff and make promises
>>56470790
You don't have to tell people who you voted for. Either lie or refuse to discuss politics if it makes you uncomfortable.
>>56460865
Jeb please.
>>56470698
>as far as I'm concerned you have no credible opinion whatsoever
Good argument. I mean, it's not like I have access to the same media outlets, watch the same debates and various other information as you do. I mean that's bizarre, that'd require the world to be connected through a series of tubes or something.
So once again, great argument. You really put me in my place there. 911/10
PS kill yourself
>>56470695
He's basically just banking on immigration reform and capitalist job creation IE: pulling some jobs from China/Mexico/India.
Thats enough to get elected though, thats better than any other candidate is offering Americans.
Is the world prepared for a Trump presidency?
Describe the scenario in your cunt when it's announced that he's president
>>56470815
One intelligent enough to know better than you about every little subject under the sun, probably.
Do you have a touch of the downs or is cuck not in fact the cleverest thing you can come up with to sound edgy when you're pressed to defend your pretty plainly one-dimensional bullshit views from claims of rhetorical and moral equivalency?
If you hate the kike-lovers above all else then you simply can't choose one kike-lover over the other, assuming wanting to rid the world of Jews is central to your judgment of political candidates.
>>56470695
Do any of them?
Honestly what politician has a real plan?
At least he's keeping his shit short so he might actually get something done
That's not even why I'm voting for him
I'm doing it to remind the media, the corporations, the nation, etc who Americans are and what they actually value
>>56471069
>One intelligent enough to know better than you about every little subject under the sun, probably.
>>56470975
did I anguish your anus, good meme-meister?
