A lot of people on /int/ claim to support fascism or some kind of authoritarian right-wing regime
How many of you earnestly believe it would be a good thing for your country and how many do it just ironically or in order to be edgy?
Don't you think that you, your family and friends might also end up in the fascist meat grinder?
>>56440496
slovakia must pay for 1939
this Slovakian leftist is getting tiring tbqh
This meme that fascism is automatically right wing needs to end.
This meme that right wing is automatically fascism needs to end.
It's /pol/acks ignore them.
They've brain washed themselves into believing the far right narrative about the world in which nazism is the only solution to all problems and the jews are the cause of all of said problems.
They are 100% for real.
I'm just contrarian to whatever the thread is to provoke discussion.
>le nazis were right-wing maymay
>>56440496
Weak people seek a strong rule.
If you know what I mean.
>>56440647
Much the opposite, the far right is trying to save the jews from getting all beheaded by muslims
>>56440749
I know what you mean.
>>56440496
>how many do it just ironically or in order to be edgy?
most of them unironically do it and directly try to be edgy with that ideologies (memes). basically they dont have the self-awareness you point out. they simply get indoctrinated into it by the discourses(memes) on muh internet and that kind of yellow journalism.
I unironically support right-wing authoritarianism, but that's nowhere near supporting fascism. Being right-wing doesn't translate to flogging gays, burning Jews and hanging Serbs.
>>56440794
savage
Extremes are all shit tbqh.
>>56440496
Get rid of all Niggers and Arabs and we can have a liberal society
>>56440794
kek
>>56442413
True, but left wing extremists are wors atm because they actually get accepted. Not very widely supported outside of 25 years and older group but definetly accepted.
>>56440496
>right wing
ayy
>>56440496
I lean towards libertarian ideas with a strong immigration policy.
>>56440496
The support for the far right is the result of failure of the left and center to realize that a society still needs to look after its own interests and prioritize its own values. They refuse to reject mass third world immigration and multiculturalism, and that leaves little in the way of alternatives.
>>56440905
I'm all for hanging Serbs alright
You secretly want these gods in power OP
>>56442627
OP is more about this
>mfw all these fedoras think they won't get persecuted and shot under an fascist government
>>56442533
i'm center center too. there's literally no reason to take things to exterme, just follow the goddamn rules that exist already
>>56440496
I like authoritarian regimes, because it's kinda my fetish. Just like it, and can't do anything with it. And I prefer right-wing because I hate niggers and muslims (before is was popular).
I'm a Hobbesian-absolutist White-nationalist anarcho-monarcho-libertarian.
That's right-wing authoritarian, of course, but where's the meat-grinder?
>>56443207
I forgot social-Darwinist, neo-militarist, colonial-imperialist, and offensive-realist
Nazism and fascism pursue right-wing ends through left-wing means. It's a toxic combination.
>>56442785
>just follow the goddamn rules that exist already
I don't really agree with this, and I'm not sure that libertarianism is "center center" especially economically. I'd like us to have a lot freer of a market and virtually no welfare so all these nigs stop out breeding us.
>>56443271
>through left-wing means
not sure what you're talking about. "National Socialism" is only by name, Hitler hijacked that party to his own means
AFAIK there was right to private property and free enterprise under nazi regime.. as long as you weren't a jew that is
then more and more liberties were taken away with the war efforts, but that's because martial law and losing the war
>>56443362
you're center right then. my mistake
>>56443628
These regimes depended (though often dishonestly) upon democratic devices such as popular sovereignty, elections, political parties, etc., to gain support and legitimacy. They were also revolutionaries and "radicals" (in action, though not in the typical ideological sense). This is what I mean by "left-wing means".
Contrast with the Empire under Wilhelm II, which had broadly similar values, but justified itself on traditional bases such as hereditary right and the supremacy of the nobility and military.
I think different nations should be different ideologies
New world nations should be capitalist and progressive, we don't have culture to protect or rigid values to uphold, we should be the world's innovaters, experimenters etc. Young cultures get young, rebellious values.
Some niche places among those should even go a step further and try things like anarcho-capitalism or pure libertarianism. People who like those ideologies can voluntarily move there, those who don't want the ayn rand ideas can leave. I think places like Las Vegas should become anarcho-capitalist experimentation grounds
Old world nations should be right-conservative. They have culture, heritage, monarchies, values, architecture to preserve and cherish. Mature cultures should have protectionist values
>>56440496
Not here, chum.
These are the same types of /pol/acks who think that Hitler was a good thing for white people. I wouldn't give them much attention.
>>56444172
Come on,comrade,our government is pretty right-leaning already,maybe not on paper,but de facto.
>>56446786
De-facto it stopped anti-Caucasian movement and all "Russia is for Russians" thing that was gaining power.
>>56446841
Because it's not a nationalistic right-wing,it's a authoritarian right-wing government. Russia is for Russian is still alive and well btw,they just have no reason to act out too much since the mudslimes toned it down with waving guns around around the time Manezhnaya happened.
>>56446841
By supporting that wierd tschetschen neraly dictator.
Or is that just buzz words?
>>56440496
I'd prefer left wing economic nationalism.
I just think that humanity as a whole would be better without a few certain retrograde cultures, like ghetto niggers, islamists or indians, and without other toxic ideologies like cultural marxism, marxism in general, anarchists/ancaps and anything else libertarians preach.
While at it, you have to recognize that democracy as we know it is a failure and an ideal form of government would be meritocratic in nature.
>>56446936
Muslims don't need guns anymore.
>>56440496
>tfw no traditionalist, Catholic Canadian fascist state
>>56440496
>Don't you think that you, your family and friends might also end up in the fascist meat grinder?
Well, we're all Irish, and I would push hard for an ethno-nationalist Government, so I highly doubt it.
>>56447109
>muh dotations
Would you rather the animals from Chechnya moved to the civilized parts of the country to try to earn money? Dig a bit into the Chechen wars. It is obvious that you cannot pacify the mudslimes,so Putin picked a leader which does what he wants him to do,who is loyal to him,and will even send his men to fight for him. He basically integrated a huge criminal organisation into the government structure,and while some might say that that was a wrong thing to do,the alternative was Chechen campaign 3.0(and we know how well those turn out) or a potential hot spot akin to Afghanistan,which isn't an exactly favorable outcome either.
>>56447271
The saxons conquered england, killed all men and fucked all women, at least that was a soruce I read.
Savage but ensured peace.
>>56447271
I know, right? But this can't go on forever. Our fucking capital has 2-3 millions of muslims according to info from mosques. There are LOTS of them from -stans, they
> moved to the civilized parts of the country to try to earn money
>>56447483
>comparing 7th century warfare to modern warfare
For the sake of your wellbeing,I hope you were joking.
>>56447583
Sort of am.
I just dislike we have to be "nicer" than the groups of people moving to our countries.
Lebannon is no longer christian by majority and don't even ask about the former Patriarchats.
Really should get an angry etjopian orthodox to speak about their stance regarding Islam.
After all , black people can't be racist.
>>56447532
I know,I live in Moscow. But most of them work in marketplaces or construction sites. I visit the centre regularly,before the whole thing with Manezhnaya went down,Ohotniy ryad was downright dangerous closer to midnight because all the shitskins. Now,when they tried to fuck around and got their shit pushed in,it's much more enjoyable there.
And even disregarding all that from above,-stans immigrants are very different from chechens. -stans don't demand money,they work for it. They might be taking up the menial job market,but that's a separate issue.
>>56447691
Hell,I agree with you,there shouldn't be preferrential treatment just because someone is islamic or some shit. But the fact of the matter is there are only to ways to deal with the chechens - pay them off or wipe them out. They can't cohabitate peacefully with the rest of the country on the same terms. And frankly,I,personally feel that the way it is now is better than another chechen campaign.
I'm an alt-right Monarchist, Right-Environmentalist, selective traditionalist etc.
Support ethnic preservation, devoutly anti-American, anti-Islam, isolationist etc.
Not just on the internet, I'm doing my masters also in international relations and argue the points to our groups.
>>56440496
you don't have to go full nazi to have fascism
>>56447826
I agree on the "no war " part.
If they are treated"better" then because they basically need daycare to not start shit (refugees that is) since no one would meploy any of them right now.
Even people that are educated are basically 1 to 4 years "behind" in comparison to germans with the same field of expertise.
It is just that they play the system to get shit, live on other peoples labour while keeping their toxic "culture".
Why couldn#t we have won the first world war?
Then this would not have happened and nationalism would not be dead in western europe.
>>56447912
>international relations
A /pol/tard.
Ya good luck with getting a job mang.
>>56447912
>masters also in international relations
A very employable degree I'm sure
>>56448088
>tfw legit interest in IR
>going to study law instead because at least it's fucking marketable.
:(
>>56448088
>>56448044
Nice doubled-dubs
Yeah, I knew ahead of time that getting a think tank or analyst job is a long shot so I got an x-ray technician certification between university stays. It's such a boring job though I want the hope I can do something more dynamic
>>56447990
I feel for you,thankfully,it's nowhere near this degree here,the Chechen region just gets a bigger cut of the budget,that's pretty much it.
However,I'm not completely anti-war,if the price of wiping them out wasn't that high I would support that whole-heartedly.
I think Belarus is a good example of a modern day country without democracy, an ideal which we should all strive for.
>>56448202
That hits a bit too close to home.
>tfw a legit interest in psychiatry and studying the way the human mind works and how to treat it
>getting a electromotive engineer's degree just to have a safety net in terms of a job
>>56447912
>Latuff
literally horsey tier
>>56448290
It's far from perfect,sadly. I have family there,and a lot of young people actually work in Russia to support their families back home. It's perfect as a resort where you can enjoy the utopia,but actually living there isn't very pleasant.
>>56442445
This, tbqh.
Lifing in a fascist society for some time to get there would be worth it, probably.
i suport issi
>>56440496
>tfw no Gaelic Supremacy party
>>56442821
do you like your current gov?
I just want a real nationalist party in power that puts Canada and Canadians first and actually cares about preserving our traditions and historical identity.
I actually do it quite ironically
I'm a convinced leftist
>>56448318
>electromotive engineer
What is this?
>>56447143
>Catholic
>>56447143
>Catholic
>>56448738
I actually have no idea how to correctly translate my masters. It's a technical degree,constructing electric motors,maintaining them,creating new ones. Basically the field of my expertise is everything having to do with electric motors,so it's a pretty wide area.
>>56448437
I unironically want to make a Conservative Nationalist party for the next election but it will not go anywhere because leftism is too strong and splitting FG vote doesn't make sense
>>56448840
I think I understand it, my friend is doing something similar I think. He has to nigger rig wires and build shit for engineering.
How long is your degree?
>>56440496
I hope one day Pinochet raises from the dead and becomes ruler of Poland
It depends really. If the government cares about the people then it can be decent.
However like the united States and some other Western nations, where the government is actively trying to Genocide the native people then obvs it's a bad thing.
>>56448889
How long in terms of years for studying? 6 years,plus I'm thinking about having the additional 3 year course which is more research-oriented.
>>56448607
>Canada
>historical identity
>>56448980
I lel'd too.
>>56448913
As long as he actually kills the fleeing commies this time and doesn't send them to Sweden, I do too.
>>56448980
If there was a nationalist movement, such a thing would exist, but since there isn't, national identity failed to materialize
>>56440528
your mom must pay me for that last night lel
