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This was America.

Before the White Men came.
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>>56430587
Damn cumskins
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>>56430587
Looks boring needs more burgers and guns
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I would that horse
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You know it, cuz.
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>>56430587
Must have been pretty sweet to get first dibs on that native cunny.
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>>56430587
>horses
>Before the White Men came
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>horses
>before European contact
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>>56430587
Well actually, there were no horses native to North America at that time.
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>>56430587
No it wasn't, they didn't have horses like that.
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>horse
these west haters aren't even trying anymore
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>>56430626
>>56430622
>>56430605
t. Sitting Bull
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>horses
>in america

nice try

the closest thing would be yamas
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>>56430587
Why does this artstyle exist is poop
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>>56430587
>Feathers on a wolf
>Wolf being domesticated in any sense.

I don't think so. They are sacred and you don't fuck with sacred animals.
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there needs to be more porn of white settlers capturing young naive innocent native women and having their way with them
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This is a cat
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It was a lot cleaner and more beautiful. That's about it
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>>56430587
>before the white men came
>horses
great meme lad
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>>56430672
nice kot
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>>56430587
wtf I hate USA now
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Just a reminder that our culture didn't have a written language and no real art. Our history is shared through song and dance.
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>>56430849
Found this Indian artifact. How much do you wager it is worth?
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>>56430818
>Spain
>Upset about destroying American heritage
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Not just
>>>horses

There's also a gun.
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>>56430587
You damn right they came
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>>56430871
A nickle. Give me two and I will go down to the depot and exchange it for you.
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>>56430872
Uh, Hispanic America is still full of full blooded natives and mestizos. They make up around 1% of the US and a slightly higher % of Canada.
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>>56430872
you what?
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>>56430909
Oh right, the Spaniards were all chill and shit when they showed up in the South.

>Worshipping idols? Nah that is cool but check out all that gold, bro.

Spain royally fucked the South Americans when they showed up.
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>>56430872
Do you know what Peru, Bolivia and mexico are?
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>>56430952
Shit-holes?
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>>56430940
Culturally. They still let the natives live (if they didn't rebel). Anglos weren't so nice.
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>>56430952
Ain't no problem finding bloods up here in Canada either, don't mean shit when it comes to what happened in history.
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WE
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Literally the coolest fucking thing ever
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>>56431182
Ancient Aliens
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>>56431236
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9QuO09z-SI
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>>56431182

Abandoned 100s of years before any European ever got to it. People still have no idea what happened to the Mayans.
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>>56431223
Stop spreading your fake propaganda.
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>>56431256
That was built by the Inca you moron and the Mayans didn't mysteriously vanish overnight either.
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America after the white man came.
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>>56430587
I wish NA women actually looked like that

Fug
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>>56431256
>this whole post
That's an Inca site for one. Also Mayans are still around, a few million people even speak the language still. It's just their big cities declined before European arrival, probably due to climate change.
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>>56431287
That's basically what Mexicans look like.
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>>56431182

Pictures doesn't really do it justice though it obviously looks impressive.

I've seen it in real life and my mind was blown, I don't think any place has made an impact on me as much as that.
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>>56430587
well shit, learn to have immunity system next time
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>>56431285
I'm okay with it, I just want more say in the politics of North America as a whole. Like Immigrants from the Middle East. They can come but this is not their land.
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>>56431276
>>56431288

machu pichu is inca? well ok then nvm
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>>56431287
This
>>56431300

There are lots of good looking cousins around but they mostly go for the white cock cause they are stable.
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>>56431314
Just look at this, built without the wheel or beasts of burden

4chan won't even let me post it because the MAP is too big

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Inca_road_system_map-en.svg
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>>56431300
>t. I've never seen a Mexican in my life
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>>56430940
Spain was making them catholics and colonizing them years before discovering the gold
they even have part of their cultures and languages, and for the first moment the crown wanted to give them rights
the big difference with the rest of european countries is that they considered natives to be part of the crown in a near future instead of slaves

>>56431325
mayans were dying too but you were referring to incas
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>>56431366
I live in California. I've seen too many.
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>>56431300
>>56431357
only .001 of women here look like that
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>>56431386
.001%*
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>>56431366
I don't know, there are a lot of Mexican girls who are genuinely beautiful.

>>56431386
I need a gf like this... so, so bad ;-;
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>>56431420
me 2 family
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>>56431440
I met this Mexican girl from my state on /r9k/ one time. She's so gorgeous

Hispanic girls make for the best gf's tb h
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you will never be a fraction of the man he was. never. imagine you are the last of your people. you cannot even speak your true name to anyone, as only your own people can know it. Ishi rules
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>>56431386
I was not trying to be realistic with my comment.
Don't take my word about it.
Pic related, my cousin.
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>>56431467
I get to play video games tho
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>>56431487
so cute
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>>56431487
>>56431465
I have an idea

ill find a qt spic gf and send it to america, ameican anon sends a white qt to canada and canadian anon sends me a qt chink gf

NAFTA exist people
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>>56431520
You've got yourself a deal, anon.
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Horses aren't native to America.
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>>56431520
What about a qt Injun gf that is half black?
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>>56431321

I don't know how that would work, given the states of America effectively shut down any expansion both political and demographic for the Native Americans, this goes for Mexico to Canada.

Giving them more political power now in a democratic system in terms of policy is a move I can't see happening.

>>56431373

>Spanish history education

Slavery was introduced to the Americas by the Spanish Crown in the early 16h, the only slavery of the natives stopped was that most slaves died early on either from overworking or epidemics, later which caused African slavery to become a more economic choice.
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>>56431587

*16th century
*the only reason
*which later caused

No idea what happened to my post there.
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>>56430587
>chinese girls
>horses
>and probably some generic wolf like dog from europe
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>>56431675
>Chinese girls
But anon, native Americans came from Asia and share many features with them.
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>>56431563
actually they are, but the indians ate them all
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>>56431578
2 much makeup in that pic

curly hair is the best

>tfw ur mummy has curly hair
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>>56431733
your ancestors came from africa m8. can you put some niggas to represent you?
native americans have high cheek bones and actually have noses.

if you cant tell apart a chinese from a NA, just fuck you
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>>56431790
Her mom was a whore and got knocked up by a nigger.
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>>56431852
Europeans and Africans have been separated for much longer than Asians and native Americans. And I didn't say that they look exactly the same, just that they share many features. Those girls don't look Chinese.
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>>56431285
>actual Europoors still haven't gone to the moon
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>>56430587
desu, Native americans society sound comfy as fuck, when there's no war.

Imagine being a man and your only worry in the world is to hunt or farm a carefree crop, you have a wife that walks naked and takes care of the children and cook. Spend your days having sex and just doing whatever the fuck you want.
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>>56430622
came into this thread to post this
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>>56430622
>>56433335
You know West/plain tribes had minimal contact with the white men, but they still had horses, right?

They didn't lost their land until the 18-19th century.
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>>56430622
Came to post this, also checked.
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>>56432995
Ever go teepee creepin, bro?
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>>56433394
Before whitey went to Americas there weren't any horses left. Their point is valid as OP said

>This was America.
>Before the White Men came.

Natives had hunted horses in North America to extinction thousands of years earlier.
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>>56433420
But they are from the plains, the frontier. The white men didn't took their land yet.
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>>56433483
Ok, that's valid when you add the fact that OP is a retard.

Despite that, the image is not wrong though.
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WTF I hate Anglos now
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>>56431285
>america
>white man


wew
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>>56433620

Top kek coming from Italy
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>>56431587
>>56431628
Slavery was introduced by the portuguese I know its hard to tell the difference between the two countries but maybe you should spend more money on education Denmark.
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>>56433861
As trophies, one tribe at war with another could take a surrendering opponent as a slave. It was common to fight to the death and not be captured and made a slave. Maybe slavery in America was a native thing first?
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>>56431587
The First Atlantic system was the trade of enslaved Africans to, primarily, South American colonies of the Portuguese and Spanish empires; it accounted for slightly more than 3% of all Atlantic slave trade. It started (on a significant scale) in about 1502[39] and lasted until 1580 when Portugal was temporarily united with Spain. While the Portuguese were directly involved in trading enslaved peoples, the Spanish empire relied on the asiento system, awarding merchants (mostly from other countries) the license to trade enslaved people to their colonies. During the first Atlantic system most of these traders were Portuguese, giving them a near-monopoly during the era. Some Dutch, English, and French traders also participated in the slave trade.[40] After the union, Portugal came under Spanish legislation that prohibited it from directly engaging in the slave trade as a carrier. It became a target for the traditional enemies of Spain, losing a large share of the trade to the Dutch, English and French.

>lasted until 1580 when Portugal was temporarily united with Spain.


>the Spanish empire relied on the asiento system, awarding merchants (mostly from other countries) the license to trade enslaved people to their colonies.

>After the union, Portugal came under Spanish legislation that prohibited it from directly engaging in the slave trade as a carrier.

>Oil monkey education
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>>56431587
The Black Legend is a style of nonobjective historical writing or propaganda that demonizes the Spanish Empire, its people and its culture in an intentional attempt to damage its reputation. The Black Legend propaganda originated in the 16th century, a time of strong rivalry between European colonial powers. The first to describe and denounce this phenomenon was Julián Juderías in his book The Black Legend and the Historical Truth (Spanish: La Leyenda Negra y la Verdad Histórica), a critique published in 1914 that explains how this type of biased historiography has presented Spanish history in a deeply negative light, purposely ignoring positive achievements or advances. For this anti-Spanish literature, Juderías coined the term black legend. Later writers have supported and developed Juderías' critique. In 1958, Charles Gibson explained that Spain and the Spanish Empire were historically presented as "cruel, bigoted, exploitative and self-righteous in excess of reality."
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Alright Germany, calm down and come on a vision quest with me.
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>>56434139
Hes telling it like it is you filthy chichimec
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>>56434139
Sure thing niggs
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Which natives are the qtiest? Canadian ,american, mexican, or south american
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>>56433999
They also tried taking the First Nations as slaves, but they kept dying of smallpox and other Old World diseases. So at some point they gave up and started importing more Africain slaves over taking more indigenous ones.
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>>56434139
>I'm flustered that someone knows more about a topic than I do.
Good morning, Alberta.
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WTF i hate white people now!
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>>56434321
That was completely forbidden by the Crown, the thing is the same Brits sent felons to Australia the first spanish conquistadors were among the lowest tier of the spanish society on the exception of Cortés. Read about the encomiendas.

Also

>Blacks
>People
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>>56431971
Dude, we built the Rocket! Read some history books.
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>>56434321
>First Nations as slaves
encomienda =/= slavery and it lasted only a few decades for the reasons that you listed anyway.
Natives, unlike blacks, were considered to have a soul and thus it was illegal to enslave them. This was decreed by Isabella herself after Columbus first expedition
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>>56434227
Alright first step. Fast for a day, do you know of any cow pastures near by? Go to then, its time to go mushroom picking. Fine the whitest skinned shrooms you can but thats all black under the cap, should also have some blue in it. These are good, take them home and sort them. Use foogle for caution when sorting mushrooms. Now dry those shrooms out, you should still be fasting s bythis point you should be hungry. Now with the shrooms dry, grind them into powder and make a tea. I know, your German but just boil some water and strain whats left of the powdered shrooms. Slam down thatteaas much as you can since its the only thing you take during this quest. Starvation s really important. So now bagthat mush for later and get ready for a hike in the woods alone at nighy. Find a nice and quiet place in a forest a eat that mush, suck on it and just savour it. At this point in your journey you should be hungry and desperate enough to eat that mess and your high will take off with your body in a weaken state from lack of food, the exercise of hiking and the toxins in your systm. Meditate there under the stars and focus on your breathing to bring yourself to the spirit realm and then its in your hands from there. Best of luck to you my brother, I mean this in complete honesty and is a practice done by my band still.
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>>56434320
Eskimos
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>>56434378
>lowest tier of the spanish society on the exception of Cortés
actually thats false, most conquistadors were hidalgos that gained nobility but didn't have the means (lands) to sustain themselves.
Vollagers were legally required to be of christian blood (no close muslim family), and to have financial stability as expeditions were funded on the colonists side, and thus had to account for ships, supplies and equipment. The lowest classes that went to the americas were mostly merchants, impoverished veterans and galleon sailors which unlike galley seamen were requiered to have certain education to operate the ships, but not criminals.
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>>56434474
If you go on a vision quest in Germany I can assure you that you will experience fucking hell
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Before white man came

And brought his nigger slaves

Jewish merchants and money lenders

Chink railroad builders

Mediterranian cooks and farmers


And behold, babylon 2.0 was born
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>>56434501
>actually thats false, most conquistadors were hidalgos that gained nobility but didn't have the means (lands) to sustain themselves.

Going to the Indias was considered a punishment for most of the spanish nobility. It was a way for the crown to dispose of political families that could be rivals and for the rest of the settlers they way low tier and unexperienced, Most of the skilled people stayed in Spain to fight in Flandes or in Napoli like the tercios. Maybe the example with Australia is a bit far-fetched i'll give you that but the only educated people that went to the New World willingly were priests.
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>>56430587
Afaik women were not allowed to be warriors. It was a good society.
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>>56434502
Is your land that far out of balance?
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>>56434591
Unless you go to the black forest or to Bayern which is full of fucking Bavarians you dont have really cool landscapes
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>>56434578
thats debatable m8.
For the rich landowners of course going to the americas was a step down from being in the court or performing as an army official in the european wars, but for hidalgos, the lesser nobility that had gained little from the italian campaigns, it was the only alternative to be granted lands. In what respects to educated men, aside from priests obviously, most cantabrian merchant guilds were also very interested in lending resoursces and agents to develop trade routes, and thus there was also a very big community of spanish merchants settling in the americas that would become enormously influential amongst the viceroyalties.
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>>56434629
Thats okay, you only need the open sky and be around wilderness. After all, thats all you need to get in touch with the spirits and energy around you. No matts to sit on, no candles or incense and mostly no holy books. We are all people of the earth and our bodies are what we communicate through with the physical and spiritual world.
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>>56434583
Well, to be a bit pedantic (I can't help it, I've been reading a bit about it recently and I find the topic interesting), that would depend on the ethnic group. A lot of North American cultures had berdaches. Now, granted, in the majority of cultures, berdaches were basically effeminate men who took female roles and duties, but there were some in which there were female berdaches who were basically women who took male roles and duties.

Plus there was the rare woman even in tribes with very rigid man-woman gender roles who managed to become warriors and even warchiefs through sheer ability and force of will -- they were a bit open-minded, I guess you could say. Admittedly though, those were rare -- so rare that the most well-known one, a Crow warchief, was literally named "Woman Chief" by the Crow once she became a warchief, because she was basically the only one (though there was possibly another one -- a Crow warrior-woman named Pine Leaf, mentioned by James Beckwourth -- but it's possible and actually likely that they were the same person).
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>>56434668
European young men enlisted in the army because it was one way out of poverty. Catholic priests instructed the soldiers in mathematics, writing, theology, Latin, Greek, and history, and wrote letters and official documents for them. King's army officers taught military arts. An uneducated young recruit could become a military leader, elected by their fellow professional soldiers, perhaps based on merit. Others were born into hidalgo families, and as such they were members of the Spanish nobility with some studies but without economic resources, even some rich nobility families members become soldiers or missionaries but mostly without to be the heir firstborn.

I would say we are both right and wrong
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>>56434787
How much of that info is reliable?
I'm under the understanding that much of northern native history is unsalvageable outside of figments of oral history, biased colonist documents and archeological studies?
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>>56430622
North America had wild horses prior to European contact. There are lot's of fossils and some very old Native American art depicted them. They died off around 5,000 BC

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/greenspace/2011/06/wild-horses-nevada-blm-native-species.html
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>>56434787
Wait, I should actually mention, the Crow did have berdaches, but Crow berdaches were biologically male and basically like traps IIRC, and Woman Chief/Pine Leaf wasn't one.
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>>56431256
>People still have no idea what happened to the Mayans.

What?
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This was Australia before the convicts arrived
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>>56434830
Well I mean, you try to corroborate it with documents that probably aren't biased, or at least not as biased.
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>>56430587
>Before the White Men came.


So why is there a rifle on the horse ?
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>>56435009
I expressed myself wrongly m8, obviously no soursce is entirely without bias aside from technical scientific tests and the like, what I meant is from your knowledge on the subject how likely it seems to you that there were females asuming traditional male positions like governing and soldiering, I'm legit interested
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>>56435052
chink traders
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>>56431285
>build spaceship
>make crop circles around it
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>>56435078
Well I don't think they were ever common. Berdaches in general were rare exceptions, and female berdaches were even more rare than male ones -- specifically, there were a lot less cultures in which there were female berdaches. And of course, regular, non-berdache women becoming warriors -- much less warchiefs -- was incredibly rare AFAIK.
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>>56430587
They didn't have horses you fucking dragqueen.
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>>56434848
>They died off around 5,000 BC

American Abos were always shit-tier when it came to preservationism.

>M-muh Buffalos from underworld, no need to care how much we get to kill, they will materialize from thin air!
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WE WUZ KANGS
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>>56436193
Well they fucked up initially, so they knew what they had to do to preserve what little they had left. That's first grade experience for you.
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>>56436193
European settlers killed off the buffalos specifically to starve off the indians.
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>>56430587
Neger, there are no native American horses
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>>56430587

>Implying the women hunted
>Implying the women were warriors
>Implying they were attractive Chinese/Filipino hybrid people.
>Implying they all had perfect 10/10 genetics
>Implying they dressed even remotely like that, and not fully covered.
>Implying they domesticated wolves (Seriously, people have been trying to do this for 150+ years now and at best they've trained wolves to not bite your face off as long as you don't go near their food and respect their boundaries. Only then will they let you pet them. On the top of the head. For 25 seconds only. No kissing on the mouth.)
>Implying horses before the White man came
>Implying they had guns before the White man came (Note the fucking rifle on the horse saddle)
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>>56438382
>what is a dog
You do realize dogs are essentially domesticated wolves. I'm not saying OP isn't a faggot bit still.
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