Why do Americans fear this with such intensity? I don't mean Bernie
Because when you think socialism, you don't think Scandanavia, you think USSR
What the hell actually happened here? Did he sneeze?
Also I'm alright with socialism and a lot of other people are too. It's just that they went a little to hard with the anti-commie propaganda in the cold war.
>>56283448
As one should.
>>56283529
But that was ~3 decades ago
Because cold war.
Some aspects of socialism are good but capitalism is what drives progress and innovation.
>>56283557
So when's the last time you had to wait in a bread line? There's nothing wrong with opposing both, but conflating social democracy type socialism with the kind of the USSR is incredibly disingenuous.
socialism is anathema to Liberty.
>>56283529
This, wtf happened here? Bernie went full autistic
bernie was like square up senpai
i'd be fine with aspects of socialism in a homogeneous society
Socialism was tried and abandoned at Jamestown
>>56283629
>So when's the last time you had to wait in a bread line?
That has never happened here, because we've never had socialism.
Or did you misunderstand?
>>56283124
Don't worry about it
>>56283529
It's a dumfuck talk show and sanders mentioned how he played as a bear or something for his grandkids, and the guy asked him to do it right there. It's kinda funny how obviously uncomfortable and reluctant he was to do it.
>>56283605
Why are all of the fantastical new technological innovations always coming out of places like Germany and Scandinavia where higher education is socialized?
I don't think capitalism like we have it drives progress and innovation at all. Maybe at first, but these companies get large enough and then they change gears to trying to kill out the competition because that's easier than offering a superior product.
>>56283740
Don't you mean New Harmony?
>>56283124
Democratic socialism is not socialism at all, it's just capitalism + lots of welfare.
If you call yourself a socialist and you believe in Scandinavia-tier "socialism" you should be sent to a labour camp tbch
WU TANG CLAN AINT NOTHING TO FUCK WITH
>>56283878
Just to be clear: we don't have democratic socialism. We've never had democratic socialism, or any kind of socialism.
because socialism would never work in the United States
Americans value hard work like no other. Most blue collar Americans would rather work their asses off to pay the bills than to have taxes raised and get things for "free".
>>56283775
That's why I said some aspects. Capitalism is not without flaws, legislators need to put laws in place to prevent anti competitive practices. Problem is our government is inherently flawed because businesses are allowed to """donate""" to politicians and you end up with these massive government backed monopolies.
>>56283746
Ok sorry, I toon your comment as you saying Scandinavia was similar to the USSR. My bad.
>>56283124
Because their level of education is >>56283878 tier.
It can't be helped.
>>56283910
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>>56283946
>Americans value hard work like no other
>>56283935
I know, I explicitly said that Scandinavian countries don't, they just have the biggest welfare states.
>>56284029
If you aren't trying to abolish capitalism you're not a socialist famalam
>>56283935
What?
The Nordic model is democractic socialism.
Sweden's government taxes 55% of GDP and spend 60%.
How is that not Demcratic socialism/Social democracy/capitalism+lots of welfare?
>>56283946
Ummmm that's not what the last 5/6 presidential elections showed.
Blue collar Americans vote for union rights and blue-dog Democrats in droves.
>>56283825
No, I mean Jamestown, it was failing because there was no incentive to work so John Smith had to come in and kick everyone's teeth in with capitalism in order to get the colony to succeed
>>56283910
CLAN IN DA FRONT
LET YA FEET STOMP
NIGGAS ON THE LEFT RATCHET TO DEATH
HOODS ON THA RIGHT WILD FOR THE NIGHT
>>56284237
Because if you want to be autistic about definitions, democratic socialism is the workers owning the means of production in a democratic society (so basically worker owned coops like Mondragon are the dominant form of production). Social democracy is different because the dominant form of production is still hierarchical capitalist enterprises.
>>56283124
because Wu Tang Clan ain't nothing to fuck with
