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Are there any examples of right governments dealing good with economy? They don't know how economy works, and have never known. From Thatcher to Yeltsyn and from Pinochet to Franco, they always ruined the economy making mass privatization that destroyed industry, diminished an amount of jobs and decreased people's income. They always sell their country to Western corporations who destroy your national economy to eliminate the competitor. Believing right parties and liberal economy is an idiocy.
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Our economy had been good before Gorbi decided to perform shitty free market reforms and destroyed our country. Britain had based industry and now it's deindustrialized country with no jobs, as well as all the countries which tried right reforms.
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We just need le free market! All these people have acually been communists in disguise, if we just remove safety regulations and bans on child labor, and get an ACTUAL free market, everything will be good. Everyone will have a job, everyone will get high wages and lots of vacation time, and there will be no more poverty.
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Liberal values and economy are just tools of the West and Europe to rob the others and their own low classes.
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>>56139307
>Right wing equates to capitalist
wew lad
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Ivan, ty opyat' obosralsya, vstavay suka, u nas opyat' net teploy vody, yobanie kapitalisty, eto oni vinovaty! Blyat'!
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>>56139669
>cockhole
Do you like your liberal government with his glorious anti-soviet right reforms? 100$ salary is good, isn't it?
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>>56140101
All post-soviet countries are literally shitholes, because of fucking unfinished communism. "Just wait about 250 years and we will build true communsim, but now you need live in shit, lads".
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>>56139307
Johan gillar inte snoriga kommunister
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>>56140285
Блять, и нaхyя я этo нa aнглийcкoм пиcaл, pyccкий жe, лoл.
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>>56140285
speak for yourself girl, there is nothing wrong with hungary.
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>>56140341
IMF bailed you out.
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>>56140383
because the burgers single handedly destroyed the world economy yes. how is that our fault?
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>>56140341
>fascists run the cunt
>hordes of hobos on the streets
>nothing wrong
>>56140285
Keep on fighting the communism, lol, I would see where the Kukraine would come in the end. Making industry full private and praising nazis would inevitably lead you to success.
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>>56140478
Your government performed market economy and sucked Murrica dick, otherwise you'd be better.
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>>56139399
The Soviet economy was tied to the hope that people would keep buying Russian oil at reasonably high prices. Once OPEC started producing more, the price of oil went to shit and so did the Soviet economy, which shrunk by almost 30% throughout the 80's and had slowed down dramatically by the end of the 70's.

Gorbachav failed to fix a system that was doomed to dysfunction in the first place.
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>>56140524
>>fascists run the cunt
actually they're right wing only by name. Their policies are quite reminiscent of pre-1988 times.
>hordes of hobos on the streets
Where? In Budapest for example, they're banned from sleeping on the streets :^)
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>>56139399
>Our economy had been good before
lmfao
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>>56140592
Everything was okay before the Gorbi came in charge. We had problems with oil, but our economy was not really tied to it as it is now. We had ton of different industries from electronics to machinery.
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>>56140586
>Your government performed market economy and sucked Murrica dick, otherwise you'd be better.

And whose dicks should we be sucking then? Yours? haha,you can't even take Ukraine, and the EU is bleeding you dry.
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>>56140654
One of my friends was in Hungary in 2014 and reported about hobos on the streets, shitty right wing TV propaganda and so on.
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>>56140783
How about stop sucking dicks at all?
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>>56140586
>Your government performed market economy
What do you suggest instead? Literally every other economic system that has been tried has failed.
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>>56140808
>One of my friends was in Hungary in 2014 and reported about hobos on the streets
Well I don't see any homeless where I live - though it's not Budapest. Do you know where he went?
>shitty right wing TV propaganda and so on.
okay I'll give you that, but pretty much in every country the TV spews government propaganda, whether its rightwing or left.
>>56140859
That'd be great. Please consult with our politicians. And by consult I mean shoot up the pairlament with an AK 47 rifle. Please. I beg of you.
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>>56139307
>Are there any examples of right governments dealing good with economy?
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>>56140726
Initially yes, but by the 80's, the Soviet electronics industry and its engineers were being outpaced by West German, Japanese, and American ones. The personal computer never got a strong foothold in the USSR. It's robotics were considered outdated, and it's industrial machinery was comparabley inefficient. Unlike the West which was transitioning to service based economies, the Soviet economy was still mostly labor based and it's leaders saw little need to invest in more efficient factories that needed less workers to operate. This worked as long as the oil prices remained high to help stimulate other, struggling industries.
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>>56139307
I think that the failure of the communism came from not being itself but beginning in Russia, 2bh.
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If you think Thatcher ruined the economy you know nothing about economics and British history
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>>56139307

Jewish cuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEATiGKOTEs
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which isn't surprising
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>>56139399
>Our economy had been good before Gorbi decided to perform shitty free market reforms and destroyed our country.
ROFL
Due to it being ties to natural resources it was unstable (can't believe you guys haven't learned that one yet). Also trying to keep up military spending with us was like falling on your own sword.
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>he isn't a mutualist

top pleb
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>>56140101
>Your president props up their scumbag who embezles a shit ton (as well as other corrupt government and military officials)
>Get assblasted when they want to increase trade with Europe
>Take a large chunk of land with a major port which you were paying them access for.
>Haha now it's ours we owe you nothing.
>Support bydlos in the East where a lot of industrial production (thanks to the Soviets) as well as coal mining is located.
>Haha why are you so poor
Your country as well as officials who grew up in the USSR might have something to do with their poverty.
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>>56140478
Don't forget the British.
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>>56140859
Countries can't be islands. Not even N.Korea is one. The smaller ones
will always be I'm the gravity of larger ones.
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>>56139307

>They don't know how economy works

Nobody does. The economy is rooted in the social habits of a bunch of crazy, hairless apes who can do math. You can study patterns in the economy, but you can never predict where it'll be next. EXCEPT that human nature lends to centralization of wealth, which is why the best regulation would be to break up businesses that have too much marketshare.

>ruined the economy making mass privatization that destroyed industry

This destroyed some markets. Helps others. Stop being an extremist. There is no all-or-nothing when it comes to the economy.

>They always sell their country to Western corporations who destroy your national economy to eliminate the competitor.

This is nothing new. we use to call corporations guilds, or the nobility, or royal families, merchant kings, or whatever. Powerful groups with a lot of wealth. There is no left or right dynamic to human nature. Just delusions that there is. That Capitalism is something new, as oppose to a natural state of human interaction and civilization.

The economy is more like the weather. You can build shelter to make the bad economy feel less shit, but the economy cycles, up and down. Good and bad. If an economy tornado hits your town, guess what? it's no one's fault usually (with the exception of war or imposed control of the economy which just dumps money into a useless bureaucracy.

That isn't to say that I'm an extremist capitalist. I think capitalism should be the foundation of everyone's market philosophy, and socialist policies on markets that are needed by all people all the time (food/water, education, health care, public safety/military, with infrastructure being partially government run but allow private corporations to compete with the government).
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>>56140478

The United States ruining other economies is not because of the capitalist boogeyman. It's because that's what Empires do.

The Soviets ruined the economy of Eastern Europe and large parts of Asia to feed it's retarded competition and arms race and desires for expansion.

you want to know what killed every Empire in human history? Over expansion. Literally what happened to the Soviets.

Why are you ignoring literally all of history before WWI? As if we're a different specie now because we have internet.
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>>56145846
The USSR was killed by oil prices not over expansion
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>>56146173

if oil prices can destroy your country, then I got some bad news about your attempt to establish any type of economic system other than what human nature allows for.
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