Can someone please tell me the downsides to living in Estonia?
I've always wanted to get out of the US but now all the nice countries are cucked and Estonia seems like the next best thing.
Seriously give me reasons why I shouldn't go there because right now I'm too hype and it seems unrealistic
>wired
>even minorities are white
>no neocolonial geopolitics
>rising nordic
>best general
Russians
>>53923121
But Estona is Russia 2bh
>>53923061
There are no downsides, just don't live in Tallinn which has >>53923121
>>53923061
It's just a cheap vodka source for Finns.
>>53923061
hmm.. foreigners are not so welcome?
>>53923121
Are Russians really that bad though? We really don't have any in my part of the US so I have no experience with them.
I mean, they're white at least and they mostly don't snackbar
>>53924007
They are the one's giving us the title Aidstonia
Russians are not that bad desu rather have russians than muslims or nigras.
A huge downside is the shitty weather and depressed people
>>53925519
>the shitty weather and depressed people
It's Lietuva, isn't it?
>>53923061
I just love it for it's easily available, cheap chemicals. Just like Ukraine.
How are like the politics though? Like, do you feel like the government has a lot of efficacy and do you agree with the things your country does? Or no
>>53923061
i'm guessing the language would be hard as fuck to learn because its one of those mongol meme languages
>>53924007
Russians dislike murricans. It's your choice.
Heathenish.
>>53926993
The daily reminder that being NATO and EU and FREE of Russians won't make you happy.
>>53923061
>the downsides to living in Estonia
You will be living in Estonia.
shit wages
except IT sector
>>53927572
Eesti are murrican bitches and paranoid about Russia.
>>53927677
>mongol meme languages
Of course noup. Raver Finns
>>53927858
It's a start though.
>>53927956
Finnish master race
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLSs7iH4l4k
>>53928141
wtf those aren't the lyrics
>>53923061
the weather is like a less sunny version of britain
there are no mountains, only forest and bogs and some villages scattered between them
people are diametrically opposed in temperament and interaction style to americans
you wont have any social guarantees or anyone wiping your ass like in the nordic countries (but being an american, you're probably used to that)
the culture life takes time to adapt to
the "russians" are really not bad at all, the bydlo is universal, there are bydlo russians and bydlo estonians if you know where to go looking for them...
what else...
language barrier is not a thing...
...
actually pretty good beer and tip top tier vodka :DD
>>53928287
Britain has a national emergency if they get a bit of snow. Meanwhile we get -30C n shiet.
>>53928026
After staying under Soviets for so long, you readily gave up its recently obtained sovereignty and independency.
Czech Republic is occupied again. Some like it though.
>>53928257
In the beginning, it is. Then it becomes just funny sounds.
>>53927572
their fiscal and monetary policies are alright on a macro level
their social policies have basically been every man for himself for the past 25 years (socialists are kept away from government like the plague)
foreign policies are somewhat questionable to an outsider, a large part of what surfaces in the media gives a somewhat skewed picture: that the emphasis is on one topic only: russia
in actuality the foreign policy of late has been directed towards maintaining and developing relations with (and not limited to): u.s.a, germany, switzerland, japan... (notice the lack of certain memetic value things here? like the n-word?) and of course the pri-baltic + finland theme is a recurrent thing
nationalism seems to be the undercurrent in all parties of government...
dunno, too tired to think of more right now :D ask for specifics if you want
>>53928898
>the emphasis is on one topic only: russia
being a paranoid murrican bitch.
What can you expect?
>>53928898
you utter complete retard
go google what fiscal and monetary policies mean. Estonia has NO independent fiscal nor monetary policy.
>>53929048
Whatever Ivan, you don't know shit. America isn't setting our foreign policy like you 70IQ rooskies think.
>>53923061
>mfw no face
>>53928898
one very big issue of course is lack of vision
they have received a lot of criticism (which imho is entirely justified) that they are running the state like a formulaic excel sheet... (ironically, the minister of finance does exactly that)
the buzz-word atm. is "fine-tuning"
whereas it should be: where the fuck do we want to be in 10-50 years and how are we gonna get there
>>53929070
anon... pls contain your ignorance
>>53929137
stfu, faggot. I have an economic masters from TTÜ. I want normies to stop talking in "fancy terms" they do not understand.
>>53929098
No, it's not murrica. It's Russia who is setting your "foreign" policy. LOL
>>53929213
no you don't, pls stop pretending you're not an angry neet... if you did have a degree, you would know about keskpank and the maksusüsteem
>>53929228
Is that why we give Putin the middle finger while oppressing Russian scum?
>>53929098
>America isn't setting our foreign policy
>>53929400
kek, that camo design is some dank mathematical shit developed in eesti btw :DDD
>>53929357
>>53929400
You're a retarded bunch, keep watching RT or whatever the shit you watch in there.
>>53929281
Lmao. just stop, you fucking dense retard. We have no independent federal bank and our macroeconomic conditions are mostly influenced by our trade countries. Go read a book with your "I sometimes read the news" level understanding of the economy.
>>53929330
This is why you got murrican troops in your tiny country. More than your own military forces.
You are irrelevant in this Big Boys' Game.
>>53929357
>>53929400
our foreign policy towards russia has remained the same for two decades, the fact that it happens to coincide with americans atm. is only beneficial to us so i don't see there being any point of banter here ;)
>>53929511
explain then oh master of economushon (which is a lie btw), what is the central bank and what are taxes and how does it all tie to macroeconomics? i'm waiting with the eagerness of a new student!
so far you have not said a thing about the topic, only called me a retard, twice...
>>53929454
Being an eesti you didn't get the joke in dat picture.
>>53929693
i have to admit i didn't :DD (still don't btw)
>>53929534
The Finnish foreign policy toward Russia remains the same since Paasikivi–Kekkonen.
And the winner is.... FINNLAND!
>>53929522
We wanted them here, our defense minister went to Washington DC and said why not move some troops to the flank of NATO that is bordering a genocidal maniacs run by soviet KGB invading other countries because they shit their pants over NATO enlargement as it threatens their authoritarian state control over the brainwashed populace.
>>53923061
Estonia is literally the shitbucket of europe
Its as big as german Denmark with half the population and nothing impressive ever came out of it
Never won a war or start an empire
Sucks ball at sports of any kind
Implied huge jewish population but sucks shit at finance and economics
Hitler literally see the Estonians as subhumans and wants Estonian clay so he can populate the aryans from germany in it.
Any average person will only know Estonia as "that country that was annihilated by the germans in the WWII".
Most are surprised it still exist.
Most people cant even find Estonia on the map and consistently mistook Estonia for either Belarus or Russia.
Its a country that is consistently bullied by countries around it and have absolutely no power to fight back due to its absolute low morale within its army and people.
Estonia is so uninteresting and dull that nobody, even the arabs or the indians(well known for their immigration to western countries) wants to live there
Estonia was supposed to be extinct and the amazement of it continuing its pathetic life like a dying rat is what makes Estonia literally the shithole of europe.
So fucking useless and incompetent you mistook it as a 3rd world country.
>>53929739
(spoiler)Canada is not great either(/spoiler)
>>53929807
wow, someone is really mad :DDDD
back to your shed now
>>53929790
>they shit their pants over NATO enlargement
They are about to build another pipeline to NATO member Germany surpassing the butthurt belt to which Estonia belongs.
Yes, you wanted them there. How old are you, kid?
>>53929807
You Ivans sure can use proxies. Doesn't fly round these parts, though. Do you even have an external passport?
>>53929639
Do you realize that explaining everything on a base level is usually a 6 month semester course? I am just saying that if you have no understanding of how things work, you should not talk about it. Keep your mouth shut. I will just point out a few details: 1) European central bank is the institution in charge of our monetary policies, Estonia has no say in the matter, so there are no "Estonian monetary policies". 2) It's been proven by academic research that changing Estonian "fiscal policy attributes" does next to nothing to the macroeconomic attributes. How -for example- Finland, Sweden and European economy as whole is doing at that time is the main factor that influences our unemp. rate, savings etc. so using the term "Estonian fiscal policy" is also irrelevant.
>>53929807
>Estonia is literally the shitbucket of europe
What is Sweden.
>Its as big as german Denmark with half the population and nothing impressive ever came out of it
All that nature and stuff has to fit somewhere.
>Never won a war or start an empire
We have been in two wars: WW1 which we won and WW2 which we lost.
>Sucks ball at sports of any kind
Not true. We have one of the highest medals per capita in the world...
>Implied huge jewish population but sucks shit at finance and economics
That's just a blatant lie.
>Hitler literally see the Estonians as subhumans and wants Estonian clay so he can populate the aryans from germany in it.
Hitler... really... that's the level or agument here? What Hitler thought? lmao
>Any average person will only know Estonia as "that country that was annihilated by the germans in the WWII".
Average people are not too bright are they?
>Most are surprised it still exist.
So are we to be honest. We truly are a miracle!
>Most people cant even find Estonia on the map and consistently mistook Estonia for either Belarus or Russia.
We can't fix the whole world and its ignorance. We're very sorry.
>Its a country that is consistently bullied by countries around it and have absolutely no power to fight back due to its absolute low morale within its army and people.
Subjectively I think the morale is higher than in say Sweden.
>Estonia is so uninteresting and dull that nobody, even the arabs or the indians(well known for their immigration to western countries) wants to live there
So sad that arabs and Indians don't want to come here. Literally just kill me now.
>Estonia was supposed to be extinct and the amazement of it continuing its pathetic life like a dying rat is what makes Estonia literally the shithole of europe.
Thank you! Your assmad just proves how special and unique we are. Thank you again.
>>53929861
Just call him Ivan if you dare.
>>53930004
They want cheap gas, your entire economy is based on selling oil and gas to Europe. Russians continue living in poverty and the oligarhs pocket the money.
>>53930007
Oh, shit, nigga, you really did it >>53930085
>>53930119
How's the weather in St. Petersburg?
>>53930022
you're saying that regardless of policies the expected outcome will not be entirely controlled by aforementioned policies, right?
>>53923061
Just move to somewhere in Southern Finland.
Uusimaa, Kanta-Häme, Pirkanmaa, Varsinais-Suomi -region will be your best bet.
>>53930079
>WW2 which we lost.
>Hitler... really... that's the level or agument here?
Soooo slow
>>53930149
Can't you google? That much of IT superiority. LOL
>>53930244
Who is your canton?
regards exhange student in vaud
>>53923061
>ugly landscape
>cold
>hard language
>Russians everywhere
>Russia as a neighbour country
They are like richer Russians. Go to Slovenia instead, or try to find a job in a real country if you have STEM education.
>>53924007
Russians who live in Estonia (and the rest Baltics, btw) are scum worse than criminal niggers or snackbar arabs.
>>53930414
funny, that's what the russians living here say about russians living in russia
and i tend to agree with them
>>53923061
>even minorities are white
What about the Russians, huh? Baka senpai.
>>53930518
Rissians are majority in Estonia, dude.
>>53930660
your trolling skills are very weak
>>53930660
>>53930660
Given the low birth rates, fentanyl use, homicide rate and HIV positivity, they'll self-exterminate within a few decades.
>>53930326
North-East
>>53930458
I've communicated a lot with them and they seemed to me the worst kind people ever. Not even white trash from Donbass is such bydło as these so-called Baltic Russians.
>>53930704
>>53930712
>>53930788
Eesti stronk!
>>53930814
anon, i'm very sorry that your social network consists of 'the worst kind people ever' and 'white trash from Donbass'. life must be hard with such crappy people surrounding you
>>53930879
If Russia is so stronk why is its main concern bullying three little countries that border it and want nothing to do with it?
>>53930879
bit ironic coming from someone who abandoned the mighty and glorious motherland to live in a first world country
Bravo, Estonia!
>>53930935
If you call it bullying, you don't know what bullying means.
>>53930983
I'm a master of irony.
>>53931221
79 post later it finally happened. this is a new record i think.
>>53931267
You're right, that would be more like what happens during conscription in Russia.
Are Estonians the most asspained about Russia among balts?
>>53929807
this is true, tho
i think it exists only because russia Needs them to be hated, russians love it and feel proud.
oh noes, the expats are going all out on this one :DDD
>>53931635
Latvians. One third left to Europe because of this. Confirmed.
>>53931761
More like they went to get better pay. EU has free movement. Like Russians can freely move to Kazakhstan and Belarus I guess.
Poland is better.
>>53931761
>left to Europe
>from Europe
typical latvian behavior, going somewhere you already are
>>53931809
Why no good pay in NATO and EU as in Estonia?
They would end up in Switzerland (no NATO, no EU) if the Swiss would let them.
Nobody is going either to Portugal and Spain or Baltic States. What a irony!
>>53931809
>Like Russians can freely move to Kazakhstan and Belarus
And Estonia
>>53931938
Like Ukrainians? Being the biggest European country. LOL
>>53931950
The Swiss do let us in, actually. The more you know. There's a thing called EFTA.
>>53923061
95% of mankind has never heard of Estonia. I personally don't like them, they are generally very right-wing people.
>>53931973
You made my evening, bro!
>>53932265
The more YOU know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_immigration_referendum,_February_2014
>>53932267
>95% of mankind has never heard of Estonia
how is that a downside?
>I personally don't like them,
funny, i don't feel a lot different living in estonia knowing some german doesn't like estonians
> they are generally very right-wing people.
that's true, but arguably that's a good thing (unless you happen to be one of those anti-fa chimpanzees)
>>53932478
Nobody's moving to Switzerland except Germans. Latvians probably all went to the UK and Ireland.
>>53930814
>you will never have a white trash bydlo gf from Donbass who just wants you for your passport
running out of reasons to live
Slovenia. Because it's USA's metropolia
>>53934397
>Slovenia
How?
