http://aa.com.tr/en/economy/economists-forecast-brazils-worst-recession-since-1901/500503
It is also now believed that the economy contracted by 3.71 percent in 2015, the year in which the country entered a technical recession -- defined as two or more consecutive quarters of negative growth.
If confirmed, the recession could be the worst Brazil has experienced since reliable records began in 1901 and the first time the country has seen back-to-back years in recession since 1930-31.
Everything is alright.
>>53164467
why?
>>53164467
We are fucked, thanks brazil.
>>53164544
Too many leftist policies + an overreliance on commodities and China.
>>53164467
let it burn down tbqhwy
The youth in this country is waking up to the lie and abandoning the left; joining centrist or far right movements, we're also purging the gommies in the process so it's not a total loss.
We might see a new Vargas in a few years so it's getting pretty exciting.
>>53164517
It's okay, Brazil. Just tell me where the bad lady touched you.
>electing socialist women who promise the world over
YOU GET
WHAT
YOU PAID
FORRRRR
>>53164627
>We
Not you. At least you managed to elect an American puppet.
>>53164671
Aren't you scared that Dilma will start up guerilla groups to overthrow the government again?
>>53164467
Brazilians WILL come into this thread and blame everything on communism.
>>53164773
She won't get any support, believe it or not the political left in Brazil thinks she hasn't gone far enough in her reforms.
>>53164820
This.
The true problem is rich people fleeing the country with their money.
>>53164773
She is a puppet with zero leadership skills, the one we need to be wary of is Lula and his personal army (The MST, Movimento sem Terra) who already threatened to "unleash it" if Dilma and the PT falls.
A lot of higher-ups in the army hate Dilma and the left for "gutting" the army so we might have the armed forces on our side if there's ever a conflict.
>>53164872
t. PSOL
There's a reason they are leaving the country and that is our retarded protectionist market, "protecting" things that aren't even there in the first place.
And it's not even the "rich people", it's the skilled middle class that's leaving.
What did you expect from a country under socialism for 13 years?
People fell for the free lunch myth and now have 5 months worth of their work stolen by the government every year in taxes. Since the Petrobras and BNDES corruption scandals were revealed, the financial crisis began, and what the government is going to do about it you might ask?
Of course tell the slaves to work harder and raise taxes so they can cover the losses that are their own fault, whether through mismanagement or outright theft.
This is the situation we live in now.
Remember to give 50% of all you produce to the government and everything will be FREE. Let big daddy government take care of you, bureaucrats are infalible, morally inviolable and know better than you what you need and how your money should be spent.
Take a look at our FREE healthcare.
>>53164969
Yeah, buying 1 million dollar apartment in Miami is totally middle class right...
>>53164820
I think we know better than you why ourselves are in such a bad situation.
>>53164969
Oh of fucking course it's the protectionist policies that make people FROM THIS COUNTRY go AWAY from the country protecting.
Jesus fucking christ I legit mad. I'm not even that one BR this moron is answering to.
How do you guys feel about your gun control being repealed? Do you think it will cause crime to rise or will you be getting one for self defense?
>>53164686
>where the bad lady touched you.
in the economy
>>53165222
First world people have better education and better economists.
>>53165275
if only it was just that...
>>53165267
No hard feelings either way. It is not for civil liberties that this is being done so whatever. The actual referendum on the issue kind of mad it clear that this is what the people wants and this is what democracy is about.
Do I think we'll turn into a hellhole where people with power will have more power and the average citizen will see none of the benefits? Kinda.
>>53165267
Of course it's gonna be the law-abiding civilians who will buy guns for self-defense.
Do you think a criminal gives a fuck about gun laws or any law for that matter? Here it's extremely easy for anyone who doesn't care about the law to buy a gun, you can go to the nearest favela and buy even an automatic weapon if you have enough money.
We never approved this gun control, it was IMPOSED on us by the government. There was a referendum held in 2005 about it and nearly 70 million people voted against it, that's more votes than any president ever had to give you a perspective.
We have so much crime now and people live in so much fear of being robbed or assassinated on the streets, on the work and even inside their own homes. The gun control must be repealed at all costs, it had fuck all to do with safety or preventing crime, it was always about control.
>>53165284
(You)
>>53164467
I don't fucking care...better to be allied to Russia and China than to the cock-holder of Israel...Fuck you all fascists from north to south America we will find you and we will kill you!
>>53165423
>Of course it's gonna be the law-abiding civilians who will buy guns for self-defense.
>>53165499
brazil suffered dictatorship when it was your "ally"
>>53165528
What makes you think we aren't under a dictatorship now?
It just changed the symbol from a military badge to the hammer and sickle.
>>53165570
you are shitposting right now
>>53165275
I HUEHUEd
>>53165448
Brazilian mentality.
>>53165267
INSECURE, ANGRY AND FUCKING INCAPABLE OF DEFENDING MY OWN LIFE!
I feel like a constant victim, frustrated, can't walk on the streets with the max volume of my favorites songs, cuz i gotta to hear if is someone following me.
When i go out i got 2 cellphones with me and you know why, right?
>>53165528
God willed it.
>>53165607
t. Datena
>>53165581
>no guns
>more than 50% of taxes in every product
>covered censorship
>protectionist policies
>populism
>all the 3 powers conducted by the ruler party
>>53165607
>I feel like a constant victim, frustrated, can't walk on the streets with the max volume of my favorites songs, cuz i gotta to hear if is someone following me.
Even if it gets repealed, it will be for having a gun inside your house only.
>>53165635
T. Reality of someone trying to survive
>>53165669
I know, thats sucks.
>>53165581
So what?
I still have 5 months of my work stolen from me in taxes, i still have to obey authoritarian laws or else i will go to jail, i'm not allowed to legally own a gun to protect myself and my family and am obligated to stay a sheep who never knows when the wolves will appear, we have a lot of press censorship and the politicians in charge of the country now can do anything they want because the laws don't apply to them.
We do live under a veiled dictatorship.
>>53165669
The text mentions carrying.
>authorities will be allowed to carry a gun based on their position
>already corrupt and powerful MPs from bumfuck-GO now have a federal permit to play wild wild west
>HUEHUEHUEHUEHEUHEUHEUEHUEHU
We can't do shit right
>>53165736
Judges are already allowed to carry. Now politicians can have guns everywhere with them.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-04/mexico-growth-beats-brazil-slowdown-as-yield-gap-keeps-widening?hootPostID=bc83fd9ba7274f013b2de44c9d4d0dbb
>>53165771
exactly.
>>53165788
does this shit helps me?
>>53165817
Well, you are getting the benefit of being a cuck to the US by not having your economy be totally destroyed by leftists, so yes.
>>53165665
>picture
>highlighting the aggressive propagandistic phrase
It made me laugh at least. It's kind of sad to know that this is what passes for information in BR internet though.
>>53165817
Yes. The more your economy expands the better.
>>53165843
>you are getting the benefit of being a cuck to the US
all those beheadings sure help us hehe
>>53164872
>their money.
That sounds reasonable.
>>53165855
Watch the fucking video, there's a video where himself EMPHASIS that shit.
>>53165882
A few beheadings > collapsing your economy
Poor Brazilians. They're in for a hell of a ride. They were doing so well too.
>>53165882
Nah, I mean a cuck to our corporations, not our drug consumers. So long as we do well, you do well.
>>53165949
>So long as we do well, you do well.
damn i cannot deny this
>>53165913
>hurr please open the economy
>hurrr please help us succeed
>hurrrr please attract investors
>hurrrrr please invest in the industry
sometimes I give our elite too much credit, there is obviously a interest gap between the real rich people and the middle class that think they are rich. If only that translated well in political parties.
>>53165855
>ignoring the "he was caught carrying 200k in a case and 100k in his undewear."
>>53165916
your pics are pretty funny bait I'll have to admit
I want to watch Brazil implode and those monkeys fall from their banana tree.
>Real at over 4 to the dollar.
Does this mean I can party hard and have lots of sex in Brazil now?
>>53166075
>Does this mean I can party hard and have lots of sex in Brazil now?
Yes.
>>53166075
before or after you get robbed?
>>53166012
>there is obviously a interest gap between the real rich people and the middle class
Of course there is, the working middle class get fucked by FREE SHIT policies taking their money and giving it to useless people and pocket the other half.
Dont talk like I dont know what the midclass is, the reality is alot of midclass people think they are actually poor and wouldbenefit from this crap.
>>53166019
that's not the highlight I'm talking about you moron. This is already a propagandistic piece and it shouldn't need the highlights. It's actually quite well written at that.
But because you fucks either think your intended targets are too stupid or that these highlights are adding to legitimacy in some way, you churn out those pictures that are so obvious I'd file them together with political charges.
But eh well it fucking works. How can I fault at you for doing stuff that actually works.
>>53166262
Watching the Brazilian fans during that game was fucking painful. They just sat there crying like they were being raped.
>>53166331
u srs nigga that has hilarious
i despise football but man that day at /sp/ was probably the best one i had in a while
>>53166431
This
Fuck that stupid shit and the stupid people that take cancerball serious.
>>53165916
>Coração
I hav eno idea what this means, but it makes me uncomfortable. Don't get any funny ideas, Brazil.
>>53166535
Heart.
>>53166566
I asked because Curaçao
>Etymology: Ilha da Curação" (Curação means healing in Portuguese)
Huh.
>>53164467
Brazilian economy is FUBAR. No other way to describe it.
It's like a Dutch disease but done on purpose.
>>53166620
It comes from "cura".
But is kind wierd really.
>Brazil has a more advanced and diverse economy than the rest of SA.
L
O
L
typical Brazilian argument
Brazil is even more Banana than the rest of the continent
http://atlas.cid.harvard.edu/rankings/country/2013/
>>53166842
If your country isn't red on this map, you're destined to a future of economic stagnation and irrelevancy. Prove me wrong.
>>53166535
1:Oh, mother dilma....Brave heart, i'm sure good things are coming. The opposition is horrible. They are so pessimists
2:Who believes on their data? The inflation is under control. Those coxinhas("neo-liberals") dont know what they are talking about, they need to study history. Cut ministries and privatize? Only those who doesnt has social conscience complains about paying fair taxes. Do you really think that i'm going to believe on this PIG media? ("Pro-coup Press Party")
3: The gasoline is expensive, isn't?
We have a lot of resource on gas but still expensive because the gov fuck it up.
>>53166931
I'm red and still doomed to a future of economic stagnation and irrelevancy.
Your argument is invalid
>>53166842
>banana part of the economy alone is comparatively humongous
>still the most diverse economy because macaquitos are pretty incompetent
try harder Congolombia
>>53166842
CONGOLOMBIA!
>muh communist boogiemen
>quick sell out to the US
>be good goys hues if not you are going to SINK INTO MINUS ELEVEN HUNDRED PERCENT
bulgar woman stronk
>>53167577
>tries to slow down government intervention and call in private capital
>plan out decade long infrastructure projects all over brazil and even south america
>gives out incentives to home capital for these projects
>pretty much what everyfuckingone does in the serious world
>economists who pranced these abominations in the first place go apeshit
>industry backpedals and asks for more and more incentives
>private sector does not show up at all
>media goes apeshit
>win second term ellections anyway
>shitstorm of epic proportions has been going for an entire fucking year
>corruption scandals everywhere
>never, arguably the only real option, messes with investigations
>those fucking same people who helped create this monstrosity stabbed her in the back
>population more and more reactionary and angry
>anger leads to hate etc
>still pulls through
>keeps to the program
>ain't falling for bullshit
She is strong. She did everything I did not wanted her to do and she betrayed me for people that then betrayed her, but I have to give her that she is strong.
>>53167411
>You need to be socialist to not be an "American" puppet.
>>53167769
You gotta be tough to be a bank robber.
>>53167769
Typical genes of a bulgarian politician.
Everyone, even the ones who were considered allies, are against her and still not 'letting the bone go' (a bulgar saying).
so what happened to the brics?
>>53165229
What kind of protectionism exists in Brazil?
I heard you don't even have welfare. So the dilma couldn't have reigned, too bad, could she?
>>53165730
>I still have 5 months of my work stolen from me in taxes,
In Germany it's 6 or 7 Months of wage from people in taxes
>i still have to obey authoritarian laws or else i will go to jail,
Shit same in Germany, you don't obey the law, you spend time in jail or even prison
>i'm not allowed to legally own a gun to protect myself and my family
Fuck we suffer exactly like you. Althou most victims of murder are victims of fimily members...So I guess more guns for your family members would totally help to get less murders....
>and am obligated to stay a sheep who never knows when the wolves will appear,
So wolfes are allowed in your society? consider yourself lucky and become a wolf. Stop crying. We don't even have wolfes in Germany.
>we have a lot of press censorship
What is censored in Brazil? What kind of statements are illegal in Brazil?
You can't have more censorship than Germany. Over here it's even illegal to call the people to erridicate foreign races.
>and the politicians in charge of the country now can do anything they want
You voted them. Vote others or become a politician yourself if you think you have higher ethos. Democracy is not about spectating from the ranks , it's about kicking some ball yourself.
>because the laws don't apply to them.
In Germany the laws officially don't apply to politicians. No joke. The have immunity and some extra laws that give them a ton of privileges.
>We do live under a veiled dictatorship.
You just don't do anything to change it. You choose to be a spectator.
Democracy is about participation. Participate!
>>53164467
Gommies, not even once
>>53172314
Fuck those commies but fuck those defeatist twice.
>>53167886
you need to know what is a socialist and not just gargle american semen you stupid monkey
go ahead and sell your cuntry to amerifats, see how far it gets you
>>53172314
also fuck Milton-friedman and Adam-Smith
The Anglo Saxon macroeconomic paradigm is just garbage.
Leibnitzian economic paradigm is the way to go.
Keynsinists ruin you fast, Monetarists ruin you slow and destabilze you fast. Neoclassics will never ruin your economy but your society.
You need to look at society and economy as a whole, like it's done by Leibnitz.
>>53164467
>mfw I voted for Bolsonaro
THE FUTURE GREAT LEADER
NIGGERS WILL BE PUT BACK IN ZOOS WHERE THEY BELONG
SLUMS WILL BURN DOWN
BR WILL BE GREAT
You keep going down because not enough white men.
No hope for Brazil.
Can I get some (You)s?
>mfw brazilians thought they were going to become USA v2.0 2years ago
>>53164726
nigger we have co-dependent economies
we are going down
>>53175295
We never believed that. We believed we'd become a relevant power, which we will, only some years later than predicted. The only reason this recession (which is by far not the worst in history, remember the early 90's) happened is Dilma and her retarded economy minister which by the way wasn't even born in Brazil but Italy.
>>53165946
>They were doing so well too
Just a mirage. The hot potato would eventually find a clenching hand.
>>53172554
>not just gargle american semen
>Hungary is part of NATO
oh well lad
all according to plan
>>53175933
I remember on /int/ there was lots of laughing at us when you temporarily overtook us. Then again, French anons were even worse
>>53175933
>We believed we'd become a relevant power, which we will
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>53166842
Please stop bullying faggot, our economy is shit
>>53178364
You will, it is inevitable because of your population and stable position in the world. The current recession is just a temporary setback and doesn't change the fundamentals. The only way it won't happen is if there's a big war or epidemic in South America.
Arguably you are already relevant, as you have a top 10 economy in nominal terms. You may fall out of the top 10 for a year or two, but not for long
>Brazil bond 10y yield
>16.030%
Wow
>>53164698
"""socialist""""
>>53164726
If Brazils economy falls all of South America will take a hit. Brazil is the economic center of South America. Similar that the world economy would take a hit if the US, UK or China had a recession
How long can I live in Brazil with 2000€? I am looking to live a hedonistic lifestyle for a while.
Mostly want to get my dick wet, though.
>>53164820
The crisis has nothing to do with communism or socialism. It could have happened with a far-right gov given the variables. There isn't one thing that you can solely blame ideologically.
The only thing that cause this crisis is corruption.
Don't listen to illiterate monkeys who say that socialism/communism is the reason. You also have retards in your country and I chose to ignore them, I suggest you do the same with ours.
>>53172265
Disregard what he said. He is a revolted Carioca.
>>53179036
I'm very skeptic of that.
I think it'll be like when Venezuela became socialist. Noone around took any hit.
Countries like Argentina, Colombia, Chile, etc. are competent enough to live without Brazil and even surpass Brazil if they do their homework right.
>>53164467
He was right
>>53178912
Only retail investors buy that shit. Brazil is rated junk right now.
>>53179377
I don't think Brazil is going to default, so it is still payable :DDD
>>53179485
Ssshh, shut it down;
good, the blood must continue to flow! ;)
>>53179197
Lel. After Venezuela's socialist ruling party took control, the new government started to give aid to a considerable amount of Islands and some Central American countries in exchange of political support, now some of them completely rely upon our socialist oil aid. It will all be over soon, though.
>>53179106
2 thousand euros only? If you have to pay rent and all you can live a whole year, but that wouldn't be very hedonistic.
>Nordic white countries have high HDI
Socialism works! fucking capitalist scum bags.
>South America is in the fucking shitter
Tell me why american liberals conveniently ignore SA when it comes to talking about their ideal social democracy.
In terms of demographics, we are much more closely related to SA than any white Nordic country considering muslims and all.
>>53164905
oh yes, an army coup, that always helped your continent so much...
>>53179110
I don't believe corruption is the sole responsible for this crisis, China and India aren't hallmarks of transparency and corruption-proof institutions, but at least they'll certainly have positive growth this year.
Brazil's internal market was a credit-based economy: "I might starve and even accumulate a huge debt but as long as I can allocate a significant amount of my monthly income for 5 years to pay my brand new Gol™ everything is alright. Keeping up with with the Joneses and maintaining my bragging rights was never cheap, I guess."
This irrational consumerist behavior, while self-destructive as proved by tens of millions of Brazilians being indebted, it has also helped to spin the 'cogs of the economy' as it generated demand.
Failure to properly recover the manufacturing industry has also led to an increase of the importance of commodities on foreign trade, a very volatile source of revenue due to price fluctuations and the economic situation of consumer markets. In fact, we would be much better off if we were to use these very same resources to manufacture our own products; I mean, how many processors can we make with 1 ton of Silicon, for example?
>>53179106
One month accounting for a place to stay, car rent and having nice parties every day of the week. It could be less if you're thinking about staying on the beachfront and going on a boat.
>>53178472
> as you have a top 10 economy in nominal terms
>nominal terms
>>53181348
We are not in a credit crisis, personal debt has nothing to do with this. Sure, defaults are high but it's not out of control.
>Failure to properly recover the manufacturing industry
That's because: 1) Exchange rates are high, industries are being crunched by it adding up to the low demand, 2) Government subsidies are not going to be approved so soon due to the clusterfuck it is right now, they can't even approve the inflation ceiling.
>In fact, we would be much better off if we were to use these very same resources to manufacture our own products;
No we wouldn't. Read up on competitive advantage. We are better off buying them.
Plus why you would want to allocate more manufacturing/production to our domestic market? Look at the shitstorm we are with most of our stuff coming from China, imagine if it was made here instead.
>>53181815
>1) Exchange rates are high, industries are being crunched by it adding up to the low demand
If you're talking about monetary exchange rates, then that might be a good thing, export-oriented economies tend to have high exchange rates as it represents a competitive advantage. Look at the Chinese Yuan, the UAE Dirham, and the deliberate devaluation of the Japanese Yen (part of Abenomics) for references.
>2) Government subsidies are not going to be approved so soon due to the clusterfuck it is right now, they can't even approve the inflation ceiling.
This political crisis must be solved ASAP, as it's the major cause for the current capital flight and because it's an issue that requires attention and cooperation of all branches of the federal government.
>No we wouldn't. Read up on competitive advantage. We are better off buying them.
I believe there are a few ways to offset this, there's a large margin of improvement for our productivity which can be attained with investments in education, automation and infrastructure. Keeping the money within our borders can benefit the government in many ways.
>Look at the shitstorm we are with most of our stuff coming from China, imagine if it was made here instead.
Could you elaborate more?
>>53165188
Just like in Sweden, except much of the money goes to refugees and immigrants.
>>53183631
Go away. This is a third world thread.
Go complain about your first world problems on /pol/.
>>53182681
>If you're talking about monetary exchange rates, then that might be a good thing,
Yeah, but you're talking about how our economy was de-industrialized and relied upon commodities. What is your point after all?
>This political crisis must be solved ASAP,
Sure, but you must remember that the executive is not the only guilty of this. The congress keeps playing power games to destabilize the executive and that is causing a gridlock in our entire political/fiscal system.
>I believe there are a few ways to offset this,
This is something that required a fuckton of budget and time. If we want to improve these factors you pointed out we need to end corruption. The current public-private partnership to boost infrastructure and education has caused nothing but the enrichment of a few people in the upper ranks, meanwhile our capacity hasn't increased much.
>Could you elaborate more?
We rely on Chinas' devaluation of the Yuan to outsource the production of the end-goods. If we did that ourselves, during a crisis like we are, the industry would be impacted even more by the inflation, low demand and etc. Sure we would benefit from exports but can you state with certainty that this would be enough to cause a break even in our current account? Imho it wouldn't.
One or two bad years is expected, we have been growing non-stop since the early 2000's.
>>53178472
Being one of the countries in GDP doesn't mean shit when your population is so big. We'll always be behind by a factor of 2 or more in GDP per capita from the true great powers and important nations.
Brazil's big GDP roughly means we have a lot of people. Any serious person will know we're a backwards, pathetic nation that shouldn't be taken too seriously. We're not even a threat to anyone. The other Latin American nations have at least the same potential as we do and they shouldn't look at Brazil as any sort of leader either.
>>53185995
>we have been growing non-stop since the early 2000's.
Because of a commodities boom which is unlikely to happen again.
![jair-bolsonaro[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sSpjhYP.jpg "jair-bolsonaro[1].jpg")
Put the memes apart, do you guys think he can put this country back on rails if he become president? Why?
>>53175933
>We believed we'd become a relevant power, which we will, only some years later than predicted.
Brazil has been the country of the future for like 200 years mang
>>53186536
Yes, because
>>53186341
Holy shit just stop posting.
>>53186654
That's for people who wanted this country to become the US m8, it won't, but it can still be good like yours.
>>53186756
nah, don't buy the memes mate we are shit.
The Empire needs to come back.
>>53186756
Being as good as Uruguay would make as a relevant power? hahaha that would make us an overachieving Latin American country and that doesn't mean much worldwide. The south and southeast is roughly as good as Uruguay and I don't think the rest of the country can catch up. We're pretty much as good as we'll ever get.
>>53186341
Erm the topic was about RELEVANCE
GDP per capita is completely irrelevant. Want to look up the GDP per capita of China?
I bet the north did this, right lads?
>>53186815
I visited you guys in 2008 and it looked really nice to me, comfy.
>>53186992
Jesus Christ can you read? Imagine a country the size of Brazil with a standard of living like Uruguay, it would make us huge in relevance. Relevance is about economy, income, military and soft power.
>>53187003
China is relevant for many other reasons besides GDP.
If you look at their neighbouring countries they're roughly as advanced as Western countries. The folks in China are genetically close to them and are very similar in any relevant quantitative trait that you can measure. Whatever the West can do the Chineses can do as well and maybe even better, and that's why they're seen as a potential superpower.
Any person with a minimal understanding of the world will know Brazilians and Chineses aren't the same.
>>53187121
As I said, the South and Southeast are already roughly equal to Uruguay. "We" don't have the same standard of living as them because of other part of the countries that probably won't ever be able to catch up.
>>53171913
Import taxes usually start at 60%. Imported electronics here usually cost double what they cost in the rest of the world. The only affordable things (food, clothing, electronics etc.) are overpriced and low quality versions of the same thing sold outside. Even with low taxes it's expensive anyway because there is no competition from imports. The government celebrated when Apple built an iPhone assembly factory in Brazil, paying less taxes than the import ones, but the prices stayed the same because they're not morons, they know people who want will buy them anyway at the same price, they just profit more. That's how protectionism works here.
As for welfare, seriously? Our government tries to give free health, education on all levels and monthly cash payments for people under a certain per capita income, with our per capita income at 1/5 of the developed countries average, how do you think that works? Everything has insane taxes built in and the public services in most cases are still africa-tier
>>53164698
If you look at old facebook screencaps during the election. She consistently called herself maemae (Mommy) and Deusa (Goddess). When a politician sees herself as a Goddess mother, maybe voting for her isn't such a good idea.
The eternal tatar destoys yet another country.
>NOT REAL SOCIALISM
>Comunists are not to blame
>Facts and data are fearmongering propaganda
How can you idiots be so delusional?
>>53188955
>country goes broke because of a bunch of fat old businessmen
>IT'S COMMUNIST'S FAULT!
Hi!
Im a swedish guy that is trying to learn brazilian portuguese! I would love if there is some cool dude out there that would like to talk about stuff!
Send your skype to
[email protected]
/lgbt/ n-no homo
>>53186536
Haha, no.
>>53189195
>S
>Y
>>53189124
>Businessmen leave the country because of high taxation by socialist government
Jeez this people are worse than the devil for not wanting to get fucked in the ass
>>53189195
Are you a faggot? Cuz if you are you should just post on /luso/. It's full of your kind.
No hating tho,.
>>53189389
>Businessmen go back to the country because tax deductions and private anonymous loans by the BNDES (Eike Batista)
Jeez must be so hard living under communism, they must be starving.
Is Dilma responsible?
>>53186341
>The other Latin American nations have at least the same potential as we do and they shouldn't look at Brazil as any sort of leader either.
No one does you delusional chimp.
>>53172265
>thinking "democracy" works
>thinking gun control works
look mohammed, i know they treat you nice in germany but in the first world we are already knowledgeable about how our systems work and how they cater to idiots like you who think everything can be solved by electing some idiot
it doesnt work in Brazil, it doesnt work here, and it sure as hell isnt working for your country. the best anyone can do at the immediate moment is to let them do whats best for themselves, like buy a gun to protect their family or to move to a safer place.
>>53189354
>>53189401
N-no i got a gf :c
but i just want to impress my brazilian friend and talk some português while we cuddle n-no homo
>>53189513
I know you're retarded but it isn't me saying you should look at us as any sort of leaders.
>>53189389
I don't recall any of them leaving. Our farms are stuck here, and our factories are so shitty they can only survive inside Brazil itself.
>>53189401
what is /luso/?
what expect from a politcs meme based country?
>>53189472
And still a fucking nightmare to do anything in this country, and thats a multibillionaire, not all the fat, old, evil, with their big phallic penises have that kind of money to invest.
>>53189649
Just read some of your kind posts up in the thread, muh rich leaving the country to Miami and buying mansions!!!!!11 Even if not people go out of business or cant expand.
>>53189472
You forgot Eike Batista is a guy who got R$ 7 billions from the federal government alone (and I'm not talking about what he got from a state and municipal level, tax breaks etc), but everybody else is working to give money to him.
>>53185033
>Yeah, but you're talking about how our economy was de-industrialized and relied upon commodities. What is your point after all?
I fail to see how having high exchange rates and a de-industrialized economy is mutually exclusive. Of the three examples I've listed, only UAE has been traditionally known as a commodity exporter. Having high exchange rates makes imports in comparison to locally produced goods.
>This is something that required a fuckton of budget and time.
Long-term 'solutions' for long-standing problems, something that unfortunately, the government is not very good at.
>If we did that ourselves, during a crisis like we are, the industry would be impacted even more by the inflation, low demand and etc.
Unfortunately, there isn't such a thing as a crisis-proof economy but then again I believe it's better than relying too much on commodities, you can't put all the eggs on the same basket.
>Sure we would benefit from exports but can you state with certainty that this would be enough to cause a break even in our current account? Imho it wouldn't.
Almost if not every 'successful' economy in the world has a highly developed manufacturing and services industry, they offer much more potential than a solely resource based one.
While the benefits of such a system might not be immediately obvious to society in general, things might start getting interesting when you consider that to reach such a state you must have a highly educated workforce and a functioning infrastructure, increasing the intellectual output of our population in the fields of natural and human sciences would be a driving force for positive changes in this country, IMO.
>>53186536
Bolsonaro is literally meme-tier
Also i'm gay, so if he gets ellected i'll probably get beaten up on the street because people will feel more confortable with homophobia
>>53187079
Well, they kind of got Dilma elected in the first place, so...
>>53192045
Also don't forget that one of the criticized points of Plano Real was the fact that for much of its implementation the BRL was pegged to the USD. While the closure of the internal market for much of the military dictatorship period was the major factor for the decadence of our industry as they had to compete with external companies which originated from much more competitive environments, the way how it was comparatively cheap to import stuff didn't help either.
>>53189195
Post Interpals
>>53192995
Why did he lose the elections in his own state? I'm pretty sure he was Minas Gerais's governor before the 2014 elections.
>>53193210
Meh idk i'm from Holy Spirit m8
I heard that PT made a pretty big campaign there spreading all kind of made up bullshit about him, but i don't know for sure
>>53193210
I live in Minas and Aécio is really shit, I voted in Levi Fidelix first and nullified my vote in the second turn.
Aécio did nothing, really. He promised the subway and I'm still waiting. MOVE is shit and expensive.
>>53194238
>I voted in Levi Fidelix
This is just sad, really
>>53194238
That really says something. Transport infrastructure is pretty much stagnant here in São Paulo. Expansions on our overloaded subway system are being constantly delayed with escalating costs, our monorail system is completely pathetic with only one station ready after more than 20 years since they started to build it and many of the bus lines are expensive as hell and are served by dirty buses that release more coal than a redneck Cummins truck on Wide Open Throttle, not very good for your lucks.
But hey, the quality of our highways are pretty amazing, don't know if it's worth having to pay for tolls every couple of kilometers or so.
IT'S OVER
BRAZIL IS FINISHED
big fucking deal
>>53165607
Nigga it's not safe nor prudent to walk around literally deaf to your surroundings, even if there was no crime.
>>53186536
Certainly, just like Collor fixed or economy with his policies. :^)
>Worst recession in its history
So... you didnt live in the 80's/90's, my friend? Today is just a reflection of a real crisis in Petrobras and chinese fucking up the economy as usual. Nothing like the last crisis when banks where bankrupting like crazy and prices in the supermarkets where changed every 10 minute (for real).
>>53164467
I mean who cares?
>>53179106
3 months, if you spend just a little.
>>53202908
I care asshole
>>53164467
So what does this mean for the Olympics? Will they finally understand that Brazil is an inept shithole and cancel it before the competitors get E.Coli?
"Brazil is the country of the future, and it always will be."
t. Charles de Gaulle
BRAZIL IS THE NEW GREECE!
http://fee.org/anythingpeaceful/brazil-is-the-new-greece/
>>53164467
Meanwhile the football stadiums are full of brazilian hooligans.
>>53164517
>>53178364
Well, sort of. International funds here like to include a nice slice of Brazil
Also fuck me, why did I invest in them
Last year Lula said the reason for brazilian education being bad is the portuguese colonization. Other common belief among brazilian leftists like him is that americans are responsible for a lot of their misery, somehow.
I'm guessing a country that elected twice someone who honestly thinks that isn't likely to succeed, despite everything they have going on for them.
>>53209516
>Also fuck me, why did I invest in them
What are the chances of Brazil going default anon? Zero.
>first woman president in the history of the country
>fuck shit up
good job feminists
i guess there really isn't equality between genders after all
>>53179377
Our bonds are junk too but they're at 2.519% today.
Rating doesn't mean shit.
>>53202908
I bet no one here on int could tell the name of your president.
>>53165423
>crime and violence on the streets
>people becoming radicalized due to twisted political views (both left and right)
>population scared of both criminals and cops
is this the country you want to have free right to buy weapons? really? you actually think that it would be a good idea to give guns to the same idiots who put FHC, Lula and Dilma, Tiririca, Bolsonaro and Cunha in power ? have you lost your fucking mind?
>>53187925
>When a politician sees herself as a Goddess mother, maybe voting for her isn't such a good idea.
Starting to see a pattern here
>>53166148
why not both?
>>53164517
Brazil's economy is so bad that people wouldn't even notice
>>53167769
i find it funny that the right wing is accusing her of destroying the economy with her new government plan, when all she did was steal the Right Wing candidate plans.
>>53172736
more like we will be the joke of the world, with a leader that imprisons gays, but let corrupt politicians walk.
oh well, we are already a joke, just fucking og ahead.
>>53188955
don't get me wrong, communism and socialism are shit. but so is capitalism. and the "reds" are not to blame here, anyone who actually thinks PT is a commie party has a brain aneurysm, or has no idea what communism is. PT is Left-wing, big government,lets help poor people no matter what party. but they are running for the money like every other party in Brazil.
you want real commies? go look at the smaller parties, like PCO, or PCB. PSTU and PCdoB are sellouts who ally with anyone who promisses them money.
>>53167411
Why can't South Americans let go of communism? It's over. Everyone thinks it's a stupid idea. Meanwhile you have European socialism, which accomplishes most of the goals of communism, even despite Europe actively trying to break their own system with dumbtarded immigration policies.
Just because the US fucked you over with some dictatorships doesn't mean
>>hurrdurr opposite US = opposite bad lolk
>>53189513
Why because of resources? If a South American country could unfuck itself long enough to make itself a Financial center for the continent (a la Hong Kong or Britain) it would trump Brazil overnight.
Don't fuck this up Colombia.
