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Who do you support in the upcoming war and why?
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Saudi Arabia, because an Iranian victory would destabilise the Middle-East to extents the likes of which have never before been seen.

Why do you think America and Israel (semi-covertly) support Saudi-Arabia? It's not like America couldn't deliver freedom to other oil-rich countries.
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Saudi Arabia, because an Iranian victory would destabilise the Middle-East to extents the likes of which have never before been seen.

Why do you think America and Israel (semi-covertly) support Saudi-Arabia? It's not like America couldn't deliver freedom to other oil-rich countries.
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>>53098912
Iran because the saudi have been financing ISIS since day 1. Also sunnis are some degenerate fucks who constantly commit genocides and mass killings. Also Iran is a republic while Saudi arabia is full of entitled sheikhs who own ridiculous amounts of oils while the rest of the population lives in utter poverty.
If some sort of dialogue is possible with islam that is with the shiites
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My government supports KSA generally, but I hope they kill each other off. They're both just different flavors of cancer.
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>>53098912
>upcoming war

there will be no war. there is a defensive agreement between KSA and UK. if iran somehow attacks KSA eternal anglo will come and rape the shit out of iran in front of russia.
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Saudi Arabia, because an Iranian victory would destabilise the Middle-East to extents the likes of which have never before been seen.

Why do you think America and Israel (semi-covertly) support Saudi-Arabia? It's not like America couldn't deliver freedom to other oil-rich countries.

t. abdullah ibn al-wahab
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Saudi Arabia, because an Iranian victory would destabilise the Middle-East to extents the likes of which have never before been seen.

Why do you think America and Israel (semi-covertly) support Saudi-Arabia? It's not like America couldn't deliver freedom to other oil-rich countries.
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Saudi Arabia, because an Iranian victory would destabilise the Middle-East to extents the likes of which have never before been seen.

Why do you think America and Israel (semi-covertly) support Saudi-Arabia? It's not like America couldn't deliver freedom to other oil-rich countries.
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>>53099371
America and the saudi have been destabilizing the region for decades since the Gulf War.
Al Qaeda and ISIS are both the biggest and deadliest terrorist groups ever created and they were entirely financed by USA and the Saudis.
Also the saudis support the kikes.

Iran is literally better than Saudi Arabia in any aspect, but imo all muslims should fuck off, i would rather have the Persian Empire with Zoroasthrism rather than Iran with a muslim republic
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Memes aside, an Iranian victory really would be destabilising as fuck. A Shia nation is not going to exert the same soft power as a Sunni one.

Then again the wahabiism.

Fuck I don't even know man.

Can't Turkey just sweep in, win, and bring law and order to the region? Fuck.
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>>53099311
>22:22:22
Fucking dank time, pal.
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>>53099536

It is not a meme, they're copying my post because it's literally a 10/10 view of the situation.

>Can't Turkey just sweep in

Top key brah, Erdogan is literally a Sultan, he is the chosen won, he will save Saudi Arabia from Iran and reinstate the Khilafa, if anything.
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>>53098912
Saudi Arabia is a backwards, disgusting country, and I hate that the US is friends with them. That said, Iran certainly isn't our friend. So neither.
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>>53099519
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>>53099621
There isn't a better option, is there?
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Saudi Arabia, because an Iranian victory would destabilise the Middle-East to extents the likes of which have never before been seen.

Why do you think America and Israel (semi-covertly) support Saudi-Arabia? It's not like America couldn't deliver freedom to other oil-rich countries.
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>>53099706
Nobody likes the Turks either.
Regional order is set up as Sunni-centric, just because of the demographics. Iran's attempts to change that may or may not succeed, but it'll be bloody either way.
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>>53099706

No better option than what? Turkey sweeping in and winning? It would make many people cream their pants (Saudis), but I doubt the Turkish population would want to be involved in the Middle-East.

But yes, of course, Turkey is preferable to Saudi Arabia and Iran.
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>>53098912
>It's in French
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>>53099325
this
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>>53099325
I'm going to have to agree with you on that.
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>>53099819
>Turkey sweeping in and winning?
Yes. They're like the only stable powerful republic in the area.

>>53099786
That's why I was saying Iran winning would be destabilising. Turkey though is primarily Sunni, although ostensibly secular at a federal level.
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Iran looks like the lesser of two evils if you're not from Israel or USA. But I wonder what's the opinion of the Sunnis about the power of KSA and the alleged loyalty that should be retained for controlling the holy places of Islam.
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>>53098912
Jews.
Want to be on winner's side.
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>>53098912
>made by jalal hajir
Totally not self appreciation. Jesus Christ Iranians are so desperate
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>>53098912
>all those books
>can't even spell

L.M.A.O
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>>53098912
Iran.
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i just want them to kill off each other.
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>>53098912
Everyone else in the world.
I hope it does nuclear.
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>>53098912
I support neither but i sure lean towards saudi since every retarded westerner is dickriding le based iran
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Iran all the way. G'wan de boiz!
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>>53098912
Saudi Arabia
Iranians are dickless lunatics who will never accept their 2nd place in the region and I love seeing them so butthurt. I mean imagine if you had to strip off your nuclear enrichment reactors without a single enemy bullet being fired at you, let alone an invasion, you'd be perpetually butthurt too.
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fuck I can't stand another wave of refugees
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I have no choice but to support Iran, and the end of OPEC
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>>53100473
So you're admitting to basing your opinions based on what's more or less popular.

Are you old enough to vote?
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Is is even question? Ofc, Iran. Hope they will buy some our weapons and destroy terrorist supporters.
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Iranians are pretty cool but their government is shit. Saudi Arabia is just shit all around. So I'd support Iran.
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>>53098912
Iran because they complete fucking savages who behead more people than ISIS
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>>53100431
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>>53100525
I would have thought Americans would admire their drive to succeed. I thought you boys were all about that?
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>>53098912
>Iran: shia theocracy, executes people for stupid reasons
>Saudi Arabia: sunni theocracy, execute people for stupid reasons
>support
why exactly should I support one?
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>>53100634
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>>53098912
Israel, the obvious winner of this confrontation
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Iran is objectively the lesser evil.

I would rather not see Europe get involved, though. Secure the European borders and let them sort out their own shit.
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>>53100097
This
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Iran obviously

They were cucked into that awful religion by the arabs in the first place anyway
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>>53100567
Yes i am

any more questions
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>>53099536
Turkey can't even keep total control of their own country, how could they control another?
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Iran because Persian qts
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>>53099621
>he will save Saudi Arabia from Iran and reinstate the Khilafa, if anything
My bet would be that he will fuck up Saudi Arabia when they are down and annex mekka and medina
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saudis can't even fight
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I hope they nuke each other

No side has my sympathy
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>>53100764
Do you consider yourself a reasonable person?
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>>53100543
Iran sends its """""refugees"""" all around the year fAm
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>>53100554
Iran is in OPEC genius.
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Fuck them both.
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>>53100675
Because you're sunni right?
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>>53098912
Iran, because honestly the Saudis have been the ones fucking us all along.
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israel
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>>53100815
i do
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>>53100824
But with them warring it'd be undermined. Glorious CAD comes back swinging and with spruced up step
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http://strawpoll.me/6451938

http://strawpoll.me/6451938

http://strawpoll.me/6451938
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>>53100784
>american flag

lel. ur browsing pol too much my fellow hewal
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>>53100824
>implying what he said was mutually exclusiv
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>>53100645
>drive to succeed
Yeah i forget it's the trait of a certain ethnicity
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>>53100817
but there is absolutely no conflict in Iran

Iran is literally as safe as the countries those people are fleeing to.

What the fuck.
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>>53100803
Because both are authorian theocracies that support terrorism
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>>53100891
T. Alisalehzadehpour
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>shia are bros, westernized and secularized

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/01/sunni-mosques-bombed-town-south-baghdad-160104102900367.html

>Three Sunni mosques in Iraq have been bombed and partially destroyed while at least two people have been killed in suspected retaliation for the execution of a Shia leader in Saudi Arabia, officials and police say.
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>>53100839
no bubba. I want to know why I should support one of these radical states. I know americunts like to pick the lesser evil but that will bit you in the ass after that. Just like the thing with al quaida.
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>>53099819
We gave up on Middle East long ago.
We would only send a couple hundred just to stop America barking
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>>53100861
You shouldn't. Being contrarian for the sake of it is retard-tier stuff.
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>>53098912

I choose to support both sides to reach out to each-other to end this conflict so we can all grow and prosper together.


jk the Sauds
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ITT: Historias de de los 70

>es 1975
>tengo 20 años
>mi primer trabajo
>voy a explicarle matemática a la hija de una vecina amiga
>estoy en la mitad del camino
>se detiene un auto lo que me impide cruzar y seguir camino
>dos tipos en los asientos delanteros, no logro ver quien está atrás
> asumo que son montoneros
> "Cagué, me van a secuestrar"
>Baja la ventanilla
>"Disculpe, sabé donde queda la calle XXXXX"
>"N-no, no soy de acá" (mentiras!)
> Se vé un poco molesto
>"Ahh disculpemé"
>Arranca el auto, veo que atrás va una nena con una bolsita
> Creo que buscaban un salon de fiestas

A ver si alguien escribe la suya pongo algunas mas interesante que involucran milicos
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>>53101087
Last part was redundant. With that flag and that post it was apparent you were lying from the start.
Dirty kike
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>>53101131
Shut the fuck up homo
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>>53101131
>>tengo 20 años
>I HAVE TWENTY YEARS
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>>53101131

puta
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>>53101131
Hola abuelito.
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>>53100682
he thought its Soviet Union
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>>53101053
i'm not ideologically driven and never lie

I side with saudia arabia but don't change my view about them. Being a contrarian is reminding retarded white people that iran is the #1 country in both sponsored terrorism and executions
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>>53101335

ur obviously a muslim sympathizer. ur mom is my beurette cockwasher
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>>53098912
Neither.

It seems like Saudi is trying to drag their ally into an all-out war before the Americans can reconcile with Iran.

I would love to see this push the Americans out of the Gulf and let some bigger sucker come in and try to run it, but I expect it will just mire them deeper in the pit.

I wouldn't be surprised to see "Iranian" terrorist attacks materialize to nudge them down the right path.
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Saudis
I wanna see some sweet Iranian butthurt. Their diaspora gets too cocky whereas they have nothing to show for it. Also, big fail trying to get into big league and calling for destruction of Israel. Fell flat on their faces.
>inb4 Ali diaspora calls me a kike
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>>53101404
Ali Al Irani please fuck off
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They should be left to kill eachother off. Would be entertaining. Iran has shittier weapons, while the Saudis are incompetent idiots.
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The Saudis are the only ally America needs
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Saudi is responsible for so much terrorism in the world. They fund ISIS and are the biggest greedy degenerates.

I hope Saudi Arabia gets nuked and the politicians in bed with them get exposed
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>>53101404
It's obviously an algerian monkey.
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>>53101448
Saudi diaspora is not cocky
Their Royal family with thousands of members is above the law when they do something abroad
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>>53098912
SA. Thanks for the oil prices.
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>Rooting for the saudis
You're either a kike, or a dirty sunni head cutter goatfucker.
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iran
they are our distant muslim cousins
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Only people who dont know KSA's history would support them. Literally ISIS-tier what they did to assertt control over the peninsula.
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I, the khan and sultan of Turan, padishah of Persia, caliph of Mecca, emir of Syria, Bosnia, Egypt and Mongolia and king of all of the lands of the Netherlands, Germany and soon all of Europe; Son of Ottoman, Son of Seljuk, vizier of Allah, the probhet and Hitler, and you governor of the Russia Province, Putin, have an issue to settle. You dare to send metal bird into my domain. This will be the greatest mistake of your life. I will crush your weak Slavic bones into dust and make myself a tea out of your ashes. I will burn Moscow to the ground and unleash the Åžeytan on all Russians. May Allah have mercy on your soles.
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>>53101762
Don't even need to know history. They're literally ISIS tier today as well.
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Lul I wish KSA wins. Iran takes on projects too big for themselves just like their buttbuddy Russia.
Also I am gonna shove my cock up your throat if you call me an Isis sympathizer. That's what Iranians love doing these days
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Iranians.
Saudis are savages with too much money, barbarians thatwere riding through the desert on camels, lopping each others heads off with scimitars 100 years ago, and they will go back to doing so as soon as their oil wells run dry. The Iranians, the Persians, however have been civilised people for millenia. Also Germany always was at good terms with Iran and Persia before that. Also Saudis support Al Quaida and ISIS, while Iranians do not, so there is that.
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>>53101669
This

15 out of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi. People talk about Iran's terror but like 9 times out of 10 they are usually Saudi

Saudi royal family are also massive perverted degenerates.

I'm so happy for their deficit. Thank God for ethanol
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>>53101736
arabs are your cousing?=
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>>53101847
>you don't support us? You must be an Isis supporter
Get your head out of your as already
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>>53101949
I think he means because Iranians speak an Indo-European language, so there is some shared ancestry, even if very diluted, between Europeans and Iranians.
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>>53098912
Iran

Saudi is one of the most corrupt nation on this planet.
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Guys both countries are highly corrupt, incompetent and would be falling apart if it wasn't for the authoritarianism. I would rather support the guys with money. Iran is just going to destabilize the region more. They have no allies in the region except Lebanese Shias.
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>>53099348
UK?
do they have the power to do that?
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>>53102003
There's a meme hypothesis alleging that Croats got their name from an ancient Iranic tribe, which is possible given that Scythians and Sarmatians were Iranic
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>>53101448
kike
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>>53101949
How is life in Dominican republic?
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>>53102161
Ah, so moreso than what I thought.

Heh
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Saudi Arabia, because an Iranian victory would destabilise the Middle-East to extents the likes of which have never before been seen.

Why do you think America and Israel (semi-covertly) support Saudi-Arabia? It's not like America couldn't deliver freedom to other oil-rich countrie
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>>53100753
they are arabs
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>>53098912
blessed iran and syria of course
thank you for not recognizing kosovo, brothers
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>>53102106
>They have no allies in the region except Lebanese Shias.
And Syria -- rebellion over. And Yemen -- that war would end. Pretty cozy with Iraq these days too.
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Not a single reply from Iranian flag. Only coward Alireza diaspora pretending to be westerner. That's everyday on /int/
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>>53098912
Iran.
But I would rather see if they both lose equally.
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>>53102174
nice if you have some money, with 1000 dollars a month you are fine
>>53102003
they are arabs speaking iranian language
or mixed
>>53102161
that doesnt mean you are iranian
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in a iran-saudi arabia war the winner is turkey and isis obivisli
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>>53098912
Iran
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>>53102225
Iran Syria Serbia Russia
Boy what a club! I know everybody is just trying to flock to these countries
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>>53101329
keked
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>>53102281
why?
so US can put puppets and fuck the region more ?

i dont know why the US hasnt invaded Iran yet, maybe because they dont have the money to do it and Iran isnt iraq
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>>53102189
Yeah, it is interesting

Similar thing exists for the Serbs>>53102225

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_hypotheses_of_the_Serbs#Iranian_theory
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>>53102272
Fuck off Ahmed
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>>53102281
This
I wanna see some heavy damages on both sides
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>>53102294
>that doesnt mean you are iranian
No, I'm a Slovak
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>>53102213
>>53102106
So you both prefer that SA continues their shitfest of sending wahabbis to kill westerners and blow all their money on coke and hoes meanwhile?

Iran's government might be the same dog with a different collar but at least they will be able to survive after the desert runs out of oil. Plus their people don't seem to be as religiously oppressed as the SA people.
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LEAVE SAUDIS TO ME
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>>53102371
It doesn't stop there. I know most of the self loathing ""American"" posters are you. And you people make up for a big chunk here on Int. a lot more than you get credit for
>as American I believe we should be supporting Iran hurr
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>>53102328
Don't forget North Korea.
And Venezuela.
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>>53102465
Again, fuck off Ahmed you KSA shill
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>>53099621
>Erdogan is literally a Sultan
This
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Fuck them both tbqh senpai
Also fuck Turkey
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Iran, because fuck the Sunni and fuck Saudi Arabia in general. It's about time Riyadh gets carpetbombed.
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>>53102465
Where has being KSA's buttboy gotten you, Chad?
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>>53102216
No. They're Persians.
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>>53102505
No it's only fair you win the media war though. It's usually entities that lose the war in real world, win the battles on Twitter or kamchatkan cartoon board.
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>>53102328
>>53102491
>americans think that the world is divided into good and bad guys

>americans think that they don't also support a cabal of evil regimes

god you guys are so fucking stupid.
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>>53102664
If you can name me a country as horrifying as North Korea without memeing, I'd be pretty impressed.
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Saudi Arabia, because an Iranian victory would destabilise the Middle-East to extents the likes of which have never before been seen.
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>>53102664
And you are implying Russians and Iranians don't see the world as good and bad guys? That's an embarrassingly stupid post, anon.
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>>53102790
t. moroccan jew
you can go fuck yourself you mountain rat
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I unironically support iran against the gulf states but I also like Israel being a thing and cheap gas. However, a more stable middle East would mean no more refugees

Really torn tbqwyf.
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Saudi Arabia and Iran both fund the Taliban lol

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/05/wikileaks-cables-saudi-terrorist-funding

http://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-backs-taliban-with-cash-and-arms-1434065528
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>>53102775
Saudia Arabia, your ally.

Islamic Republic of Iran, the state, is 10 times more liberal than KSA. Women can drive and vote there, imagine that?
Nevermind the fact that the people in Iran are 1000 times more liberal, better educated.
Have you considered for a second that supporting (or being run by) shitheads like the alSaud family has gotten you nowhere in terms of geopolitical aims? Nevermind completely destroyed your moral mission to the world?
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>>53102636
arabs
they killed them all
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i just smoked a tabaco :D
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>>53100789
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>>53104271
Tabaco
or did you mean.... Tabasco???
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>>53104423
yeah that
im little high :DD
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>>53100097
The arabs that live in the western part of Arabia hate the saudis.
They think they're turning the holy places into tranvestites. And they're a lot more liberal than the saudis in the desert.
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>>53104476
How are the people over there?
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>>53098912
Why do you think America and Israel (semi-covertly) support Saudi-Arabia? It's not like America couldn't deliver freedom to other oil-rich countries.
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>>53098912
Saudi Arabia, because an Iranian victory would destabilise the Middle-East to extents the likes of which have never before been seen.

Why do you think America and Israel (semi-covertly) support Saudi-Arabia? It's not like America couldn't deliver freedom to other oil-rich countries.
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Allright, so. What semi-realistic scenario will cause the most havoc in Middle East?
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>>53098912
>That picture

The only one of those Iran has is culture and history.

I'm still supporting Iran obviously, fuck Arabs in fairness
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For Mexico should be Iran...

Fuck with the saudi oil production and it will render higher oil price and benefit for oil producers such as ourselves.
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>>53105246
they are nice
many rich like to come here
you want to come here?
i mean to visit¿?
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>>53105696
It most definitely has still philosophy as well, and had economy/technology/science
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>>53105584
there wont be war
If ksa go to war that means US will go to war too
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>>53105995
Quite literally americucks
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>>53098912
I R A N
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Saudi Arabia, because an Iranian victory would destabilise the Middle-East to extents the likes of which have never before been seen.

Why do you think America and Israel (semi-covertly) support Saudi-Arabia? It's not like America couldn't deliver freedom to other oil-rich countries.
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>>53098912
Saudi Arabia, because an Iranian victory would destabilise the Middle-East to extents the likes of which have never before been seen.

Why do you think America and Israel (semi-covertly) support Saudi-Arabia? It's not like America couldn't deliver freedom to other oil-rich countries.
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>>53098912
Iraq
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>>53100588
>literally holding the US flag upside down
>>I'd support Iran
Come on, it's the current year.
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>>53098912
Iran because Saudi Arabia LITERALLY did 9/11
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>>53105966
I ask this stuff whenever I see a person from a place I rarely hear of so I can construct a more valid view of the world.
I think /int/ is pretty great because of this :)
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>>53106019
well its because the petrodollar
the US control the oil from there, its like the base of the dollar i believe
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Iran should stop being Muslim
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Iran
In fact I wish all Sunnis just got exterminated and we'd have only Iranian muslims left
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>>53098912
I support as many deaths on both sides as is possible.
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>>53106120
oh ok :)
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>>53106173
That will never happen unless religion dies out altogether, which is also unlikely.
Best case scenario is moderate/non-practicing muslim population with a sizeable agnostic/irreligious minorty and a returning non-muslim population.
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>>53106235
So, Malaysia and central Asia.
Except Saudi funded madrasas are trying to change that.
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>>53106173
they wont and never will

>>53106259
>central Asia
they have some extremist there but you dont hear so much about because well there arent many central asia diaspora in the west but in russia
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>>53102465
You make it pretty obvious that you are diaspora too
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>>53101227
In that context, it means I am 20 years old
I know tengo= I have, but this is stuff you learn an year 7 spanish
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We do of support who gib of oil to us desu.
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Saudi Arabia, because an Iranian victory would destabilise the Middle-East to extents the likes of which have never before been seen.

Why do you think America and Israel (semi-covertly) support Saudi-Arabia? It's not like America couldn't deliver freedom to other oil-rich countries.
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>>53106552
To be honest any proper war between those 2 states would cause intense instability no matter the outcome.
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>>53098912
Iran
Seriously at least those idiots stick to themselves for the most part, while the Saudis are propping up radicals across the globe
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>>53106635
i always wonder how the world end up like this

i hate admitting this but truth is that white people control the world, atleast white americans or jews, what ever

this is why i want the nukes to go off

i want to know and see a world without the US
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>>53099621
>its not a meme
How new are you? You know that the first comment in most threads is often repeated in an attempt to derail the thread or to make a new ebin meme especially if it is good pasta material?
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>>53106847
I know brah. Been on 4chan for almost a decade.

You need to relax, smoke some kush
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>>53106902
there is some guy arabier in UK too
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>>53100645
>Americans
>Drive to succeed
Most of our rich were born rich, and the rest of our population is obese fucktards.
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>>53106927
Soy dominicano como tu
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>>53100402
K.E.K
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>tfw if Sean Connery hadn't overthrown the Shah, US would probably still support Iran
>Wouldn't be a shithole Islamic republic

Reminder that monarchy > republic.
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>>53106968
hahahah
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>>53106902
>smoke some kush
Ayy got you covered m8ie
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>>53106984
what Shah are you talking about?
the one before WW2?
because he was doing a good job but he didnt invest in military and that is why he got rekt
civil war after civil war really fucked up that region
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>>53107065
>one before WW2
I'm referring to his son, last Shah of Iran
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>>53106235
Europe stopped being Christian, so anything's possible
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>The public in the westernized world want a westernized middle east
>Any time a middle eastern politician tries that, they get labeled a dictator and need to be liberated by the west
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>Shit vs Piss
>Who do you support?
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>>53107143
ohhhh
he was puppet, he was fucking the country up

the Shah before WW2 was a good man and was doing a good job but UK and USSR saw Iran didnt have a good army so they invaded them to secure Oil and left his son as a puppet
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>>53107188
Most porn stars will play with piss, but not shit, unless they're german or russian
t. pornography expert
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>>53098912
Iran

Because they aren't USA pets and Saudi Arabia is
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>>53107210
>He was fucking the country up
Depends who you're asking.
Him playing around with oil prices angered the western puppet masters, but not potential foreign investors/traders.
Him trying to suppress the dumb, uneducated, violent, poor, extremely religious groups obviously angered them as well, but half the majority cities didn't care because they're more moderate and educated.
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>>53107188

Shit

t. Scat fetishist
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>>53107372
he was a US puppet
if only his father would have invested in the army none of that would have happened
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>>53107486
And British puppet as well.
But towards the end of his reign be was trying to become more independent, which angered the US/UK
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>>53107541
well if he wanted to do things right, he should have invested in the army then fuck with US and UK

i wonder when this is going to end
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>>53107658
Why would the second shah fuck with the US and UK via his army? They would get demolished. Best circumstance would be to fuck with them economically and trade with the commies full force
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>>53107728
>Why would the second shah fuck with the US and UK via his army?
not for them but for the rebels the US and UK would have funded ;)
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>>53107372
>Him trying to suppress the dumb, uneducated, violent, poor, extremely religious groups obviously angered them as well, but half the majority cities didn't care because they're more moderate and educated.

He killed too many people and the army revolted.
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>>53103174
Underrated post that nobody bothered acknowledging
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>>53108872
literally nothing wrong with that my friend :^')
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>>53098912
Iran, because they are our allies and economical partners.
Anyway, if the region is destabilized, the oil prices would change and the huge amount of refugees will flee to Europe.
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>>53098912
Saudi Arabia, because an Iranian victory would destabilise the Middle-East to extents the likes of which have never before been seen.

Why do you think America and Israel (semi-covertly) support Saudi-Arabia?

It's not like America couldn't deliver freedom to other oil-rich countries.
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>>53109110
If it's Iranians fleeing, it might not be as big as a problem because their diaspora is pretty much everywhere already, so family members can help them settle.
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>>53108915

> wikileaks
> capitalist media
> acknowledging
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I hope Saudi arabia will lose.
Because the King of Saudi arabia is cruel.
He kills people on every Friday.
Saudi arabia joined the Convention on the Rights of the Child.
To kill child as a condemned is prohibitted by that treaty, but Saudi arabia kill a lot of child as a condemned on Friday .

That monarchy must be beated.
Do your best! Iran!
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As long as there are monumental casualties and generations of infrastructure destroyed on both sides without the rest of the world being drawn into a third World War I won't really care who wins.
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>>53109255
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>shia are bros, westernized and secularized

When will this meme die? Shias are by definition not secular or western, they're the most extreme form of Islam. Unlike Sunnis where a minority is extremist (wahabbist) All of shias. ALL OF SHIAS ARE EXTREME.

>why no terrer attacks??
Cause they have a core leadership that hasn't ordered it yet, but they will blow themselves up in seconds (see human wave attacks in iran-Iraq war) if they are ordered to

pic related, The actual average shia believer
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I don't fucking know man. Jesus, what a though fucking question... I'd rather have them fight an endless bloody war that weakens them greatly than seeing either win.
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>>53109117
>an Iranian victory would destabilise the Middle-East to extents the likes of which have never before been seen.

Yes, because America has only brought more stability to Iraq in the last decade
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>>53109182
The Taliban have visited Iran without any Afghan dignitaries present

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/afghan-taliban-delegation-visits-iran-discuss-regional-issues-n361876
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>>53109227
>Because the King of Saudi arabia is cruel.He kills people on every Friday.
Iran killed 3 times more people than Saudi Arabia you Japanese retard
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>>53109117
Why America don't deliver freedom to Saudi arabia?
Saudi arabia is one of the most undemocratic country in the world.
You, american don't mind if a lot of innocent ladies are killed as a condemned in that country?
Is America really a Freedom country?
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>>53109302
t. Ahmed al-Sunni
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>>53109378
t.haydar ali
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>>53098912
Both are shit tier governments that I hope burn
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I don't like the fact that America and Japan get along with Saudi arabia.
America should attack Saudi arabia instead of Iraq.
Iraq was more democratic than Saudi arabia.
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>>53109177
keep in mind that most of the iranians diaspora are educated people, many people in iran arent different from those syrian and other arabs
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>>53098912
The sad thing is that the pic is more or less correct.

Iran had a nice history
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>>53109507
>I don't like the fact that America and Japan get along with Saudi arabia.America should attack Saudi arabia instead of Iraq.Iraq was more democratic than Saudi arabia.

Are japs retarded? how come they always score high IQ?
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>>53109507
you clearly dont know what is the deal in this mess

stay quiet
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anyone not saying Iran is truly insane

they should be our ally
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>>53102125
Yes they do. Cuz we say so.
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>>53100366
>>53100525
>>53100817
>>53100973
>>53102465
>>53107833
>>53109452
>>53109340
Why are you so extremely butthurt about iranians my dear """""""""""american"""""""""""" friend?
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>>53102125
The smartest move the U.K ever made was convincing the world it didn't rule over it.
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>>53109685
lol no
remember that Iran isnt Iraq
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>>53109669
I agree, but our governments don't. Also, Jews.
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>>53109783
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>>53109787
Not our call to make. In this scenario, it's on the Brits. That said, whatever they choose, we'll support.
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>>53109669
If you think you can turn around a govt whose claim to authenticity is Marg Bar Amrika and a history of putting their thoughts into deed, you're free to try.
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>>53109837
Iran can take on the british alone m8 B)
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>>53109919
The Iranian military isn't particularly impressive today, and wasn't in Iran/Iraq.
The capacity to maintain proxy groups doesn't translate into military regulars fighting on a modern battlefield. Nor do the Iranians even possess the fancy toys their Gulf neighbors are so erroneously proud of.
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>>53100817
That's childish as fuck. It's like a brat holding its breath until it gets what it wants.
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>>53109843
It's slowly happening in both countries, but more evidently in Iran.
Examples:
>Brain drain reduction
There's now a humongous attempt to reduce Iranian brain drain, which at its highest was like 40something% of the university educated population. The government's trying to entice them with huge salaries and benefits for professor/university research jobs.
>Laxer foreign restrictions
The clerics are becoming looser on their regulations, since they realize that it's economically beneficial to allow western merchandise into the country for consumption. Compare Iran in the 1980s where everything western was either banned or heavily edited during Khomeini's reign, until other clerics told him to tone it down because it could cause additional outrage. Now compare them, where humongous malls in mashad, tehran, and isfahan are filled with western goods (both real, and copies). Also, Considering Iran's going into an incoming decade long drought and requires a better sustainable economy, they'll strike deals with foreign markets and further loosen restrictions.
>Cultural attitude
Due to an influx of western goods, the people are becoming more open to western values, at least in urban areas. Electing a more moderate president, and more public dissatisfaction with the religious police are evidence.
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>>53110037
>and wasn't in Iran/Iraq.
the iran army was beginning to take form at that time
remember the iran revolution?
iran didnt have a proper army before that

>Nor do the Iranians even possess the fancy toys their Gulf neighbors are so erroneously proud of.
we will have to see

its weird the US hasnt invaded Iran after some general said they would invade iran, its because they know it would be impossible and they would have some many deads soldiers
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>>53100939
Not if you're a homo.
Or a drunk.

So.... basically, nor if you're British.

Hey-o! :)
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>>53100817
look at him, now say iranians arent arabs
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>>53110037
>Nor do the Iranians even possess the fancy toys their Gulf neighbors are so erroneously proud of.

Weapons they have no clue how to use.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFOQ8rgiokM
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>>53110218
>after some general said they would invade iran
>some general
K. The American population isn't ready for another war yet. Invading Iran would be unpopular and pointless.
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>>53101931
I'm late to post this but Iran and its proxy Hezbollah had ties to Al Qaeda as Al Qaeda is opposed to the Saudi Royals.
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>>53110243
>2%
Some are.
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>>53099325
this
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>>53110328
those are the people that speak arab
stop playing yourself, you know what im talking about
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>>53098912
If Iran was friendlier towards Israel it would be better. As others posted in another thread, Iran would obviously win if KSA didn't have the West supporting it in a war.

I'd prefer Iran was the bigger power in MENA though. They at least treat their religious minorities better.
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>>53110169
You're hopeful, and I like that.

Foreign policy isn't based on hope.
The US is deeply entrenched in a regional order which tightly excludes Iran, despite Obama's best efforts. Walking away from this will make Obama's "red line" look like child's play. Every ally on the planet will wake up with a fever.
Iran has well established itself in the anti-US axis, and has supported any group, including Sunnis like AQ, in order to kill Americans. I just can't see a 180 turn on their orientation when it's so built into the basis for the Islamic Revolution.
Dictators aren't always the most receptive to their own people. The Ayatollah's will not take kindly to overly much Westernization, and will likely seek to retain their "resistance economy" for the rainy day everybody knows is coming when the bomb is built.

But, despite myself, I hope they do Westernize and the government moderates. But I wouldn't plan around it.

>>53110218
Nobody has any intention of invading Iran, but I'm not sure what exactly you think Iran possesses that could stop us.
They've never given a good account of themselves, ever, and their equipment is outdated, shoddy, and in poor states of maintenance.
Manpower alone has long since ceased to win wars.
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