>poor
>brown
>contributed nothing worthwhile to the world
>literally ruled by Arabs for nearly 1000 years
>corruption everywhere
so tell me, why do we consider these Spanish 'people' to be European? There is little European about them
>>53093668
>implying Umayyad rule wasn't the best thing to happen to Spain
Those filthy Visigothic barbarians owe everything to the Saracens
>>53093668
You're actually right.
Spain is indefensible
They produced ebin art and have the best gfs.
>>53093886
This
Too bad reconquista happened. Al-Andalus was goat tier
>>53093668
>1000 years
wut
>contributed nothing worthwhile
the whole americas basically.
>>53094085
>creating latinos
>contributing to the world
Hey, but how about siesta? It's the greatest contribution ever made.
>>53094049
If it was so goat then why did it get #rekt by a few asturian farmers?.
Al-Andalus was shit in many aspects.
>>53094085
>the whole americas basically.
Your argument is not helping your case, senpai.
>contributed nothing worthwhile to the world
W-What about me?
>>53093668
>>brown
easy there, India 2.0
>>53094192
Was great in the past millenium perspective of course
they weren't great at fighting, they got too vagues and acomodated
>>53094166
Latin american countries are by far in good standards of living compared to most ex-british and ex-french colonies(africa and middle east). The only ex-british/french colony with a somewhat similarity to a latin american country standard of living is South Africa, and yet they're far from that.
In latin america:
there are no tribal wars(Except in mexico)
there are no muslim majority
there are solid states with armies
there are no major conflicts between social groups
While in middle east and africa, well..
>>53093668
It sounds a lot like modern Europe to me, we were just ahead of our time
>>53094085
>the whole americas basically.
>>53094192
because of stupid Emirs and Taifas that fought among-st themselves
>>53094380
They couldn't even handle christian peasants, they got revolts every now and then, nobody wanted them nor their government/culture, they were THAT shitty.
>>53094475
700 years is a long fucking time m8
>>53094334
you're forgetting USA, Canada, Australia, India, New Zealand, The Falklands, Israel, they're all more successful than anything in Latin America
>>53094334
The Falklands is our only colony in Latin America and it's easily the nicest country on the continent, so you sound really stupid
>>53094334
>Latin America
>better than USA, India, Israel, Malta, Gibraltar, Ireland, The Falklands, Canada, New Zealand, Australia
top fucking kek
even some of the French colonies like Morocco and Tunisia are nicer places to live than most of South America
>>53094581
You're forgetting the Caribbean there friendo.
This is coming from an Australian, not some monkey.
>>53094475
sounds like spain
>>53094334
This, m8. I don't know why everybody takes the piss on LATAM. I mean, aside from banter. Some countries are shit, I admit it, but many others, specially the Southern Cone, Mexico and some places in the Caribbean have high HDI. If the USA and URSS hadn't fucked us up during the Cold War (inb4 burger saying 'u blaem ameriga :DD')we would have achieved much greater things and we would be better off, but considering we have barely above 200 years we are doing fine I suppose.
Tl;dr memes ain't good for you
>>53094522
USA, Canada, Australia, 3 countries
New zealand and the Falklands are overseas british territories(inb4 New Zealand is a country, say all you want, under my perspective they're literally british people depending on the british government)
India is a shithole
Now compare 3 countries to the gazillion of countries in africa, middle east and SEA which are obviously shitholes where people constantly flee from and come here as refugees.
How many latin american refugees did you ever met?(inb4 mexicans crossing the border, mexico is a shithole and should be nuked, it's not our fault, period)
>>53094770
Mexico is more dangerous than most African countries lmao
>>53094581
Don't take him seriously.
>>53094653
>USA
ok
>India
Literally a shithole
>Israel
Jewish state created by jews
>Malta
Meme island for money laundry
>Gibraltar
Same
>Ireland
Not british
>The Falklands
not a country
>Canada
ok
>New Zealand
not a country
>Australia
ok
Again, 3 countries.
>>53094821
and Israel, Hong Kong, Ireland, Malta, etc
most of them have turned out nice, except the nigger ones because niggers can't into civilisation
>>53094518
They invaded the peninsula in 711 ad. By 1100-1200 ad there was hardly moor occupation, just the area of Andalucia
>>53094522
> India
>>53094653
> Gibraltar
You have never been there right? Its the Mexico of Europe, fucking druglords, money launderers and bitches everywhere
> Morocco
Half of the country was Spanish, actually the best parts of the country. And you clearly havent gone to Morocco in your whole life, I live in Melilla (Morocco is 1 km far away from my house) and when you visit Morocco, all you see is missery, dirt and violence. In non spanish areas is even worse.
> Malta
> India
>>53094912
>i-it's not a country because I say so!
our colonies are better than yours, it's easily reflected in the domination of Anglo economics and culture compared to Hispania, get over it
>>53094989
you can make excuses all you like, but they're still way better than Latin America, I think the only reason Argentina and Uruguay are okay is because of the Italian and German immigration there
>>53095012
Falklands are classified as overseas british territory, they're under british government's rule.
New Zealand pretty much the same but it's not said publicly
>>53095110
>colony
>a country or area under the full or partial political control of another country and occupied by settlers from that country.
>>53094989
>Galician
>Portuguese
wut, wasn't it literally same language?
>>53095282
yes
shitty map, asturleonese wasn't spoken in the whole extremadura.
>>53095012
>What is Jamaica?
>What is Guyana?
>What is Belize?
respective shitholes in each region
>>53093668
Stop bully, Spain is nice. Great food, great summer, friendly people and beautiful cities.
>>53093668
don quijote de la mancha is the best book i've ever read in my life
>>53095088
http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20151230-the-top-seven-places-to-retire
Get rekt, only 2 of your ex colonies are in the list. 2 ex spanish colonies + Spain are there.
Also, look at the ammount of shitholes you created, in Latin America you had Belize and Guyana, and are absolute trash: tiny GDPs per capita, shitty HDIs, hihgly inequal. Nearly any of the Spanish latin american countries is better than your 2 shitholes. Then you also had those caribbean nations that now are filled with serial killers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
>>53094653
>USA, Malta, Israel, Falklands (Malouines rightful French clay desu)
>British
Trigrd
>>53095110
>New Zealand pretty much the same but it's not said publicly
That's some top notch fat posting, pablo
>>53095490
Thanks neighbour :)
>>53095539
Read Lazarillo de Tormes, its even better (and shorter)
>>53095637
>Whenua
that's a Bionicle
>>53095667
Sabe pa
>>53095606
Also, look whats the most succesful African nation :^)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita
>>53095667
spanish literature is fascinating, but so is the latin american literature
>>53093668
>poor
not really comapred to most of the world
>brown
And? better than pale sissies like the ugly anglos
>litterally ruled by Arabs for 800 years
AND?
>contributed nothing to the world
Not true
>corruption everywhere
Yes and it's fixable
>>53095088
If it wasn't for far leftism Latin America would probably be near Europe's level.
>>53096243
leftism isn't the problem, corruption is
>>53095088
top kek says the albion
Is it ok to call MadrileƱas gatas?
>>53096325
>leftism isn't the problem
Haha, it always is if it goes too far.
Governments can't manage everything it leads to... well ineffectiveness and corruption apparantly.
>>53096152
Thanks medibro
I would say Spain is the best place to live in Spain
>>53096408
ussr wasn't corrupt. latin america on the other hand has always been corrupt
>>53096663
Europe*
>>53096663
Can confirm for true
>>53096710
>highly controlled market and industrial section
>no high standards of living
>officials with a great deal of power at their disposal
>not expecting black markets
>no corruption
Kek, okay well whatever you want to believe to be true.
>>53096663
>iberia 1.0
nope
>>53093668
proxy detected.
>>53093668
>There is little European about them
true, that's why spain is the most backward country in europe
>>53096663
I'd wager it would be among the best, if you have a steady job and good income.
If you don't have that I would imagine life to be stressful there. Also Spain seems to have less of a FUN culture which South America has.
>>53096902
of course leftism is shitty, but what i'm saying is once you clean up their corruption they will get their heads straight and start voting for the right things
>>53097018
Hello Sudica
>>53093668
we shouldn't. Europe ends on Catalan border of France and Western Germany
2moorish4me. too bad they spread their shit genes all over americas
>>53093668
I'd rather live in Mexico than Spain.
>>53094085
>the whole americas basically.
XDDDDDDD
*robs gold*
*build favelas*
*race-mixes*
nothing personnel, amerindians
>>53097213
Sure thing, good luck being beheaded
>>53097039
I think that the closer you are to the Equator, the funnier everything is. Southern areas of Spain seem funnier than Northern ones, I dont know
>>53097286
Better than living in Spain
>>53094834
That's not true. I've been at midnight in MĆ©xico City and nothing happens.
>>53097342
Why? If youre not Mexican, you're retarded
>>53095637
LEAF
>>53097389
Because I will at least die soon when I go to Mexico, in Spain I will live longer surronded by moors
>>53097449
>actually using memes to justify decisions
Nice
I hate Spaniards cuz they always win us in basketball
Aside from that they are bro tier
>>53097369
You were in the capital of the country and lucky.
>>53097544
t. Juanito Barbosa
>>53097057
I suppose somewhat from the way I look at it, the shitty systems and people will just drag a nation down until change is desired enough. Just like what happened in Argentina and especially Venezuela.
>>53097655
Sorry bro, wish we could tie someday
>>53097657
No the Spanish had another
>white
Hero.
>>53094334
>>53097774
>all that cherrypicking
>selectively leaving out Guyana
>Implying Jamaica is safe
toppest of keks
>>53097726
Senpai your power lvl is off the charts.
>https://el.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ī Ī±Ī³kĻĻĪ¼Ī¹Ī±_ĪĪ±ĻĪ¬ĻĪ±Ī¾Ī·_FIBA
I have to say the British were the best at their colonies, all other european countries didn't do a good job. USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are proof, and then you get Singapore and Hong Kong.
>>53097774
>Ireland
XDDDDDD
Oslo where is Acadia, Quebec and Acadiana on French side?
why do people say spanish people are white when they are brown?
>>53098091
No one says that, we are as dark as night
>>53097198
>shit genes
spanish blood is god tier. spain conquered the world, invented modern infantry and marines, had a god tier navy and dominated europe militarily.
>>53097774
>Egypt
>Jamaica
>South Africa(Mandela?, rly?, that guy fought british apartheid)
>India(Mahatma ghandi was anti-british as well)
>trinidad y tobago
>Jordan
All these countries are shitholes, and most pictures in the spanish side are just random people, many of those didn't even had important roles in the country
>>53097774
Cherrypicking: the image
We are not a British colony. Only the 13 states on the east coast are
>>53098376
yeah you have more of a french and spanish colony LOL
>>53093668
Why are Salamanca Valladolid and LeĆ³n in this map
>>53098221
Because beating up natives with shit technology was a giant achievement.
>>53097774
Tired of this meme. British colonies actually tried to develop.
We didn't try because we didn't care about their wellbeing, just about the resources. There was never a competition.
>>53097342
t. Mestizio
>>53097897
Thanks for pointing that out my boricua friend. BTW you guys should be an overseas department of Spain instead of being a part of the degenerate state that is the US. Be European
>>53098494
spain walked all over the dutch too. the spanish pillaged and raped the netherlands.
>>53098757
Too bad they weren't bad enough to actually hold on to it.
Apparantly they didn't walk over shit.
>>53093668
The most shameful fact of us is that 2/3 of your genetic herigate comes from Spain.
https://www.google.es/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34175224&ved=0ahUKEwiP3p7ViJHKAhXKuhQKHWELBEAQFggoMAM&usg=AFQjCNFB54u0QAgNDdKlBwspIXLVZL7M8Q&sig2=rN_4YaNAVkNzTN30aD6fdg
And the 1/3 of the another gene pool comes from Saxons and other barbarians that make your DNA even worse.
Because of that your great contribution to humanity have been literally piracy, genocides and trying to fuck civiliced empires.
We only have to see that most of the colonies you have have become much better than your shitty island when they freed from your control.
And even worse, we have to share land with 1M of this island ex-inhabitants.
>>53094834
That was directly after operation Fast and Furious, before then it used to be safer than living in the U.S.
>>53098376
This is true, lots of USA states were under Spanish jurisdiction
>>53098494
This was the size of the Spanish army in Mexico according to wikipedia
90ā100 cavalry
900ā1,300 infantry
6 guns
13 brigantines
With that they managed to destroy the Aztec Empire, which had around 300000 soldiers. Btw, we also destroyed and colonized those swamps known as Netherlands
>>53098543
> USA
> Canada
> Australia
Enormous ammounts of land and natural resources such as oil
>>53094518
Genetic proofs talks against you.
>>53098659
sadly, we can't enjoy the Euro benefits like Aruba, Bonaire, CuraƧao, Sint Maarten, Saba, Saint Martin, Martinique, etc...
like, some of these islands actually use the Euro
>>53097198
Lol, thus spoke the subhuman slav
>>53099069
haplogroups mean very little, still yeah Spanish people cluster very close to other Europeans genetically.
>>53095539
Miguel de Cervantes>>>William Shitespeare
>>53099011
Gibraltar has 1M people?
that sounds like too much
>>53099160
hamlet is pretty good tho
>>53099024
Why do you people always tell half of the story? They also enlisted many native allies which was 80.000 to 200.000 men so apparantly you read very selectively. Montezuma also thought they were Gods and invited them in so it was way easier to take their capital.
So all in all your manipulation of the facts seems to show.
>>53099240
No, but there are a lot of british expats living in Spain, the number that appears here is from 2006
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_diaspora
>>53099024
I'm usually the one to come and defend Spain, but come on dude
>Who are the Tlaxcalans
>New Mexico was the only current US state that had a substantial and long lasting Spanish presence/descended native population
>>53098991
No shit, we were fighting the ottomans, the catalonians, the portuguese, the english, the french, the northern africans, the german protestants and the dutch at the same time. If you were next to Spain instead of covered by two of the most powerful nations of the moment the story would have been pretty different.
>>53099385
Yes, we did, but those werent under our complete control, also different languages, so imagine to understand what they wanted. And people still believe that we just genocided the shit out of America, when natives even helped us in campaigns and later got privileges
>>53099538
> all that german
You also have spanish presence in Puerto Rico and maybe the Marianas and Guam
5/10
It's a decent attempt at trolling since some people responded, but now you're basically Pakistan you don't have room to mock our Arabic past at all.
>>53099538
>Central Florida
>NYC
>a little county in Niew Joysy
sounds about right
>>53099538
didn't expect so many germans
>>53099660
not really, we've interbred so much that the only Spanish heritage remaining are the last names lmao
>>53099702
>>53099660
it's not the most common altogether in the USA but it is the most widespread group
>>53099011
They're not "islands ex-inhabitants", they're a collection of maltese, moors, jews etc the Britshits transplanted there to serve beer and run stores and shit for their navy base.
>>53099870
cucks
>>53099549
Indeed, Spain played a shitty diplomacy game.
At any rate, thank goodness it all collapsed in the end.
Cuando usas la palabra troll te descubres como forocochero y te exponed a que se te caguen de la risa en la cara, las advertencias fueron debidamente presentadas.-
>poor
>brown
>contributed nothing worthwhile to the world
Nice try Harry
>>53100281
Still mad about Amberes, huh?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Antwerp
>>53098376
Okay retard
>>53099024
Most of those states weren't populated until the U.S took them over from Mexico. In fact they actually worsened under Mexican rule
>>53101050
Well it led to a more united effort against Spain, so I guess you should be mad you started the beginning of the end.
Spain has the best poetry
>>53099024
What the flimflammiddyfuck did I just read?
>>53102922
What kind of faggot reads spanish poetry?
