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>>53012708
>cities should only have short buildings = autism.
funny thing I never saw an inhabitant of city with skyscrapers complaining about them and wanting to have only short buildings
it's almost always Europeans and mostly inhabitants of small cities and villages
their "arguments" are so fucking ridiculous, like this brit last thread who was saying "just make Manhattan 3x larger" that I guess it's just pure jealousity
I actually like the mix of old and new buildings of Frankfurt.
>>53012988
Thanks, op.
>>53013274
Frankfurt looks pretty nice. Is there a reason why people hate it so much? Looking aside from its tall buildings, at least.
>>53013274
And they do it quite good, at least if I compare it to the clusterfuck my city is doing.
>>53013327
>as your usual skyscrapers rarely reflect the culture of the place they're in.
most of them yes but there are examples like pagoda styled skyscrapers - Taipei 101, Jin Mao Tower or Burj Khalifa which design is based on the desert flower
>>53013447
Criminality and migrants. There are quite a lot of bad suburbs.
>>53013294
lovely HK, saved
>9 replies in
>no Japan
ABSOLUTELY HARAM
>>53012988
Where have you been? It's been weeks since I've seen anything architecture related on this board. I've been fiending for my fix, so much so that I would accept even your bland chinktowers and commieblocks at this point
>>53014406
>Where have you been?
ded
>>53014406
>so much so that I would accept even your bland chinktowers
they aren't as bland as american concrete boxes
>>53014117
norway weaboo obligatory : ^ )
>>53014117
You want Japan?
>>53017009
woops
>>53017009
kek
>>53017040
japan is kind of urban paradise
or hell
why no love for the Middle East?
Doha, Qatar
>>53017272
>>53017305
oh dog this pic is so lovely
>>53017337
How do we fix the suburbs?
>>53017451
notthing to fix desu
suburbs came to exist in the US because you ahve a lot of FREE space
>>53017450
>>53017451
We get rid of them. Or we just make the buildings higher and thinner as done in asia
>>53017500
Will Eko Atlantic ever work?
>>53017500
Is that a condom?
>>53017600
why the second part has "jobs/sq.mile" too
isn't it supposed to be people/sq.mile?
>>53017705
what is this desu
>>53017650
>>53017925
https://www.wikipedia.com/en/Eko_Atlantic
Chicago is a shithole. Most skyscrapers in Chicago are empty and are there just for show (read: for the enjoyment of tourists). Vacant office space is a serious problem in Shitcago.
>>53017451
Increase the diversity of house designs and plant/import more trees when the neighbor hood is going up. Also make sure to maintain the trees so you don't end up with those pathetic half-dead stunted trees.
>>53017975
are you this meme belgian
>>53017925
>>53018209
>>53021965
posting korea off of google
>HDI (2014) 0.898
very high · 17th
Surprised that SK isnt top 10 in terms of HDI, below fucking UK.
>Seoul (서울; Korean: [sʰʌ.ul] ( listen)) – officially the Seoul Special City – is the capital and largest metropolis of South Korea, forming the heart of the Seoul Capital Area, which includes the surrounding Incheon metropolis and Gyeonggi province, the world's 14th largest city and fourth largest metropolitan area with over 25.6 million people.[5] It is home to over half of all South Koreans along with 678,102 international residents.[6]
>>53017040
that is so vaporwave
Why is it that the Polish Dubai shill always makes these threads? Dubai is a dump.
>>53024237
Commie blocks aren't that nice to live in.
>b-but I like how they look in aerial photography
>>53027016
Dubai is a shithole, but there hasn't really been much /mena/ posting at all these past threads. And if that's what he likes, then so be it.
>>53012988
>all those phallus dick buildings
>they're mostly empty as fuck and only owned by the 1%
At least North Korea's lone hotel actually has visitors.
Reutlingen
Beautiful, rustic.
r8
>>53027253
SHHHHH we need to build upwards kilometers high even when no one buys the space because it makes for interesting skylines and what matters is how a skyline looks from 1km high in the air even though 99.9% of people will never be at that height to look at the skyline.
>>53027311
Has anyone here ever been to the Maldives (malé specifically)?
>>53027356
>>53027384
That's like a SimCity map...
Mopti Grand Mosque, Mali.
>>53027410
SUDANO SAHELIAN TIME
Runcorn.
How can one country be so free?
>>53027483
>what are windows
>this thread
damn, being a 3rd worlder who lives in an ugly city really hurts
>>53027142
>seoul
>commie blocks
Am I missing out on some hot meme here ?
>>53027311
Sorry senpai, the best business area title goes to this city
>>53027510
>emerging
The Northeast and Southern California already are megaregions.
A lot of those "megaregions" are mostly empty. I just drove through the Central Valley of California (part of the "Northern California" "megaregion") and it was mostly dust, dead almond trees, and Taco Bells.
>>53027538
3rd world can be pretty and you're only 2nd world anyways stop whining
Leiria, Portugal, with Leiria castle in the background.
>>53027597
i know that 3rd world could be pretty as well, but that's the reason why i said i live in an ugly city.
Pic related is the only cool thing of my city, it looks beautifull, but when you are there, it is like India
>>53027384
Tropico?
>>53027597
>3rd world can be pretty
>>53027849
memes aside, i think India has nice places
>>53027564
>dead almond trees
It begins
Modern, 98m^2 housing in Saint Maur des Fossés
Modern house in Ramat HaSharon, Israel.
>>53027553
Seoul has a shit-ton of commies, though. Like a good chunk of the city consists of them, and there's even more in the rest of Korea. Even relatively close to the centre, which you can see if you follow the highways there.
>>53027564
>A lot of those "megaregions" are mostly empty.
Seems so because Germany houses 1.3 times the population of the Great Lakes "megaregion" on territory the size of Montana, and we're just a regular fucking country.
>>53028243
North korea is best korea for something hehe
Dunkirk town hall during a carnival.
Modern house in Toronto, Canada.
Modern house in Konan, Japan.
Classical city hall, Krefeld.
Cottage terrace housing, Lymm, Cheshire.
>>53028243
When the fuck did high rise apartments start equating to commieblocks ?
Commieblocks = dreary government constructions for poor fucks
Those do not look like commieblocks at all.
>>53028010
We have TONS of nice places actually, but outside of the said nice places, life is ...shitty.
Château de Meung-sur-Loire. The oldest still existing parts date from the 12th century and were built by Manassès de Seignelay (bishop from 1207 to 1221)
>>53012988
which city?
Poynton shared space centre.
Shared space = no firm boundary between sidewalk and road. Similar to how a town centre in olden times would have shared spaces between horse and cart and the pedestrians.
>>53028683
>he cant instantly recognize cities by their skylines
Hello new friend, welcome to /urban/.
>>53028654
I have been there, pretty cool for being so old.
My favorite is still Chenonceau (even though I got attacked by two black swans in their garden)
>>53028642
Commie-blocks are just cheaply built concrete towers with little to no details and more often than not built in large clusters, so yes, these are commies. Even by your definition they are commies. This for example could be Russia for all I knew, but it's in the middle of Seoul.
>be into engineering
>hear about 'city engineering'
>think to myself "how hard can it be? it's just placing buildings together and ensuring you can move around
Jesus Christ this is impossible, it's like a thousand Kobayashi Marus in sequence. Down to "which kind of tree do we plant, given its leafage and the impact this will have on shadows in the streets, dead leaf collection, wildlife, ..."
>>53029229
So these buildings are commieblocks eh ? they are exact replicas of each other, and extremely nondescript. But they are situated in fucking Hong Kong and a flat costs millions of Dollars.
a traditional Finnish dwelling, some families lived like this till the 1950's in remote areas.
>>53027409
It's the city Male: capital of the Maldives.
>>53029505
It's all about the architecture. Merihaka is a quite expensive neighborhood in Helsinki but it's architecture is still 100% commie.
>>53029505
Those obviously aren't simple or cheap, though. They are made with mixed materials and have variation in the facade, and even a more distinct shape and base. If we wanna talk about Hong Kong commies, then Kowloon as a whole is a good candidate.
>>53028977
Neat.
>Today, I will remind them
Average American house.
>>53029983
Urban sprawl should be punishable by prison. What rationally thinking person would allow places like Houston and Phoenix to exist?
>>53029983
>Houston has a relatively low population density despite it's population size
H-TOWN
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>>53031146
I don't know, but "muh freedum" seems to be a recurring argument. I still can't believe they decided to build those suburbian sprawls in semi-arid climates, such a waste.
Though stupidity seems contagious. Individual houses (not buildings though, luckily) have to be built completely separated from each other now. This caused otherwise small and dense villages in France to start sprawling further out which is extremely wasteful in ressources and infrastructure. While older houses in the center of villages are being abandonned and left to rot rather than being revamped.
>>53012988
As someone living in UAE, I prefer the planning of Abu Dhabi more than Dubai.
Abu Dhabi is more diverse than Dubai
>>53031273
HOUSTON, FUCK YEA
SPACE CITY
>>53024237
>Surprised that SK isnt top 10 in terms of HDI, below fucking UK.
living in SK is not that good though it's definitely a very interesting country
also HDI is a kind of western circjelerk anyway...
>>53027142
nah new ones in SK and HK are actually pretty good to live in
of course you wouldn't feel good there if you like more suburban/rural environment, but residental condos really fit high density urban living
we had HK poster once he even posted his apartmnt and he was really good with living in a monstrous "commieblock"
>>53032551
Wow, look at all those roads.
I think in the future, modernist cities won't have any sidewalks. You will leave your house, enter your car, drive on nice open roads with no pedestrians around, to a building with its own parking lot, and go to work or whatever at the building. Then when your day is done, you drive back home and spend all night watching television.
Modernist life in the 21st century.
Just big cities with big buildings and big roads and big parking lots and no cafes or bars or open riverfronts or anything. Just nice big driveable cities with no one walking around. Brilliant.
>>53028642
>When the fuck did high rise apartments start equating to commieblocks ?
there is not definition for commieblocks
some people call all high-rises, even these super luxury ones with gardens and shiet "commieblocks"
I personally use term "commieblocks" only in reference to these built in Eastern Europe in the times of Soviet Union/Eastern Bloc because they are very distinctive and they are the most crappy ones
Bodmin jail.
Lets be honest. Compared to some of the commieblocks which get build these days, this isn't so bad....
>>53033006
but that road literally has sidewalks I don't know what are you talking about
>>53033006
>Just big cities with big buildings and big roads and big parking lots and no cafes or bars or open riverfronts or anything.
what the fuck dude that definitely won't happen
also if you don't like big cities you always can I don't know, live in a countryside
but I wouldn't recommend it if you want to have some nice, active and social life, or if you want to have a good education for your kids
>>53033119
did you live in a commieblock ?
don't compare it to some prisons kek
Kuwait City, Kuwait
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Doha again
>>53033048
There is a definisjon for commie-block though. The name just derives from the fact that they were most commonly built in communist nations, but the term is in no way limited to those. You'll find commies all over the world, and there is a clear gap between them and more up-class apartment blocks. Commies are just the cheapest and simplest of their kind. Pure cheap concrete with barely anything else, with no regards to looks, often built by the state, in clones, with the purpose of housing large quantities of people quickly and cheaply. It's just a name for those types of buildings, regardless of place or how pristine they might be. There are shitty commies and good commies, but a commie is a commie. In style these ones from Eastern Europe are no different from what you'll find in Asia or Western Europe. Personally I love commies, though, and I'd love to live in one. It's just that they are in fact their own thing.
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>>53033686
calling buildings built in capitalist countries "commieblocks" is retarded though
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
>>53033946
>>53033827
It really isn't, as that's the commonly accepted name for that style of construction. It can be built by anyone, but it's still what it is. Many things might have a specific country, region, era, etc. in its name, but it doesn't have to be limited to it.
>>53034026
>>53033006
That's already the case in Kuala Lumpur, I guess it must be the same in other "modern" cities. Had to enter my oh so modern skyscraper residence through the parking lot three meters away from the highway, you litteraly cannot walk or even bicycle anywhere, if you don't have a train station nearby or a car, you're screwed.
>>53034054
>It really isn't, as that's the commonly accepted name for that style of construction.
no it isn't
commonly accepted name is "highrise/residental tower/apartment block" etc
in poland we just call them blocks
why would you call them commieblocks instead of just blocks if they weren't build in a communist country
>>53034305
not sure if Kuala Lumpur is a good example
in Warsaw even in central area you can walk though it's crowded obviously
>>53034396
Because an apartment block can be something much better. The thought around the name probably went something like this:
"Hey, what do we call these bottom of the barrel apartment blocks that are reminiscent of communist era public housing?"
"Commie-blockâ„¢"
"GENIUS"
It's not a name to be taken 100% literally, but rather more mockingly in regard to those types of buildings.
>>53034539
>Because an apartment block can be something much better.
not for the masses anyway
good residental towers are pretty expensive and only the rich can afford them
>>53034452
Warsaw is a European city which has been there for quite some time. Kuala Lumpur litteraly sprung out of nothingness in the past 30 years, like a number of south asian cities, and some African cities. Some deal with pedestrians better than others, but always more poorly than "classical" urban designs.
>>53034924
In the west, where this term is most commonly used, commie-blocks were obsolete by the 80's and what followed after was really quite a different. Southern European condos too and newer style apartments are also quite different, while still cheap. You also have places like Japan that hardly even have commies. So it's good to have one term specifically for those.
>>53035156
yeah Kuala Lumpur may be some kind of urban failure, it grew from poor area in the time of economical boom and I don't think anyone cared how the city will work and look like
rapid urbanization is not easy to pull off and do it properly
>>53035348
and why this terms is used even regrading buildings which have nothing in common with original commieblocks?
I've seen people calling Singaporean luxury first class apartments "commieblocks"
it's just seems like another example of western contemptuous attitude towards everything which isn't western
Dubai, UAE
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>>53036202
The "original commieblock" isn't something that even started in soviet countries, but it became most popular there, and when similar urbanization was attempted in Western Europe and the Americas, they named it this mockingly. It was during the cold war after all, so anything reminiscent of the soviets would get derogatory terms. It just stuck around, and became a more general term for these types of apartments no matter location. Both IRL and on internet forums like SSC. It doesn't really have much deeper ulterior motives to it nowadays, and I'm sorry it offends you.
>I've seen people calling Singaporean luxury first class apartments "commieblocks"
Then that's wrong, unless the exterior looked like your average bare-bones commie.
>>53036871
>It doesn't really have much deeper ulterior motives to it nowadays, and I'm sorry it offends you.
It doesn't offend me just I don't see a reason to call blocks not built in the commie countries as "commieblocks".
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>>53038069
battle of skylines was pretty fun
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>>53038195
Should host a battle or urban designs desu senpai
>>53039266
of what? it'd too hard to rate and comprehend for average people
I dont really even know which cities are designed well and which aren't it's pretty complex I imagine
Rich people move to places like Bude when they can afford to move away from the ugly, modernist cities.
>>53039337
urban planning I meant, could keep it simple, something like
Haussmanian
Hippodamian Grid
Suburbian Individualism
Modernism
Laissez-Faire
Cellular
>>53039337
Modern housing done in the traditional style in Ergué-Gabéric.
Architects should do more of this. Traditional shape but with crisp modern lines.
>>53039405
i kekd
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>>53039431
>Modernism
aka JUST
>>53039491
dude honestly this is a cheap cuckshed even in Poland
you say rich people come to rural areas but no millionaire would ever move into something like this
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>>53033006
Are you silly?
Vancouver is one of the most modernist yet one of the most walkable cities in the world.
>>53039810
he's just spewing shit against muh devil modernism
I think he is baiting or something
>>53039875
especially when he started to talking about rich people apparently moving from the "ugly, modernist" cities and showed some small middle-class houses
even in Poland rich people build almost fucking palaces in the suburbs/countryside, and a lot of them are modernist kek(especially those in suburbs, modernism obviously doesn't really fit well in the rural landscape)
>live in "the largest city in Northern Ontario"
>not even 200 000 people
>"downtown" is mostly parking lots and rail storage
>no new high-density buildings; suburban sprawl has begun
Who here actually lives in a major city? It must be nice.
>>53040021
a lot of people from major cities would talk about how they would like to move to the rural area muh comfy muh nature or something but the truth is living in a major city > living anywhere else
of course you are getting tired of big city, all these crowds etc, like all my family in Warsaw, but they wouldn't move out of it like ever, they just have very calm and comfy place in Mazuria at some lake and they go for holidays there
living in rural area/non-major city sucks - imagine what are you supposed to do to get a good, higher education - you need to move out anyway, hundreds of kilometers away so what's the purpose in the first place
imagine having you wanting to have some good job - you will most probably need to move to some major city...
or just a daily life, far less opportunities to hang out and spend free time
I have a friend in some real rural area and he is virtually NEETing all the time because what else is he supposed to do there? getting drunk with some rednecks retards all the time?
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>>53013447
25% of the "people" there are shitskin muslims.
>>53041853
rip germany
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>>53036202
>luxury first class apartments
the real luxury is having space, not living in a godamn appartment along millions of chinks
>>53042944
>implying luxury apartments don't have a lot of space
top kek
also most people who can afford having a luxurious apartment in one of the most expensive cities in the world, surely have some bungalow in the countryside too
>>53042944
>along millions of chinks
of course coming from a westerner
that's the thing I talked about earlier and what I honestly hate
you should know, fellow Frenchmen, that Singapore is far more well off than France and even according to HDI which is widely criticized for favoring western countries, Singapore has better quality of life than France
so yeah I wouldn't mind to live among "millions of chinks"
>>53043890
>>53040021
Toronto reporting in
High rises everywhere I look
If I wasn't so close to Pearson we'd have more.
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>>53043949
post pic
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>>53044089
Eh, I'll see.
This is my place
