Discuss urban developement, planning, urbanization, growth of metropolies and future of cities, urban life style.
All discussion about architecture, it's impact on daily life, trends(both historical and contemporary) is welcomed here aswell.
Post pics of cities, urban areas, buildings, physical structures. Comment and rate.
>>52949173
How many people who post here live in suburbs/rural areas?
>>52949365
I do live in kinda rural area now.
>>52949437
Have you ever visited a large city before?
>>52949543
I lived in a large city atleast if you consider Warsaw is large.
>>52949663
Yeah it's pretty big. How was it? People like to exaggerate how bad some cities are.
>>52949778
living in the city>living in the rural area
atleast if you want to succeed/have some social life/go to cinema kek
and Warsaw is pretty nice though commuting is pain in ass(spending more than 2 hours on commuting every day sucks), it's developing quite nicely recently too
but I visited Western European cities and Warsaw isn't quite there, commies fucked up too many things
>>52949986
>living in the city>living in the rural area
Oh I agree, I'm visiting family right now and I'm remembering why I left in the first place.
>spending more than 2 hours on commuting every day sucks
Is that public transportation or car? That's how long it would take to go from one end of NYC to the other.
posting some Helsinki :3
>>52950733
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>>52950901
Noice, looks like a more colorful version of other european cities.
>>52950527
>That's how long it would take to go from one end of NYC to the other.
Of course not everyone in Warsaw spend so much time to get to work but some do. I guess NYC is better because you have an actual metro system and in Warsaw if you live by the metro station commuting is fine but if you don't it suck.
only the city center is colorful though :D
>>52950733
>>52950855
>>52950901
great pics lad, saved
Helsinki looks pretty good, though im not really into nordic cities
>>52951312
it's still isn't that bad
how is the climate in Helsinki though?
is it a frozen wasteland? I can't imagine myself living in a colder climate than Poland
>>52949173
urbanism vs nig nogs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq_SpRBXRmE
>>52951203
Yeah the public transport is pretty good here. Even people that live far away from Manhattan in Long Island suburbs can just take the Express bus that has comfy airplane tier seats.
>>52951312
What's that circular building, offices?
Also rate.
>>52951431
>is it a frozen wasteland? I can't imagine myself living in a colder climate than Poland
It's definitely colder there than in Poland, but because it's located by the sea and in the southermost Finland the winters are not that snowy nor extremely cold but it's windy.
Modern Finnish architecture is extremely dull...
>>52951867
...or overly colorful
Göteborg/Gothenburg, Sweden second biggest city (979 818 in the greater area). It's also have the biggest port in scandinavia.
>>52951984
City center
>>52951984
It's funny that in Sweden the new architecture is more classical and traditional than in Finland :D We're much more "progressive" on that field.
>tfw cozy neighborhood in a big city
Mexico City
Visby, old hanseatic city, located on Gotland. You access it by plane or by boat that goes from Nynäshamn and Oskarshamn.
>>52952473
The future is now. Do you actually live there?
Gamla stan/ old city. Central Stockholm.
Wish we had less open parking lots. Could be worse though.
These plans for Pasila remind me of East Germany...
Västerås, 6th biggest city
>>52953047
That looks awful
my city
My city's "architecture".
>>52952085
maybe it's the picture but that looks like some greenland tier shit
>>52953201
Most cities on the plains look like shit from above. Not too mention Denver had it's biggest period of construction in the 80's, which is a pretty ugly time for architecture in the States.
>>52953297
looks depressive as fuck
>>52953346
Yeah, bad quality, also taken early in the year.
>>52953297
Helsingborg look better :)
I unironically live in Brescia
>>52953404
my home town :^) called the ugliest town of Finland
>>52953736
urgh
>>52953822
And have to admit it really was depressing to grow up there.
>>52949173
Do interiors count?
The Police Building, I believe it's apartments now.
>>52953857
That one ain't even that bad. Just a little blocky.
>>52953905
Reminds me of Nässjö, sort of..
Reök Palace, Szeged, Hungary.
Hungarian art nouveau.Reminds me a bit of Barcelona. Creepy melted buildings.
>>52954091
>inb4 commie inland city full of nerds and lesbians
>>52954091
Lazy king i guess. He just named it Charles Harbor..
>>52954161
>Yes
Cool
>>52954311
ugly from sky
>>52954129
That town at least has some old buildings left, ours were demolished in the 60s.
>>52954485
Here's a map of city streets colored by how they run compared to the cardinal directions. Red is for roads going North-South or East-West.
Here's New York, the roads are purple because they don't run perfectly North-South:East-West.
>>52954598
Here's Chicago, poor poor Chicago. You have to interrupt the grid at least occasionally.
>>52954485
Only Helsingfors looks nice
Thatched cottages in Comberton receiving a flood.
>>52951956
Disgusting.
>>52952085
Aerial views do not do Gothenburg justice.
>>52953047
Parking is a pain There are some cities which are experimenting with just letting anyone park anywhere, I think. I'd support it as long as it doesn't result in bad parkers blocking roads.
>>52953822
Pretty bad.
Finnish towns were not destructed by wars but by communist city planners.
>>52954665
Now Boston. Probably the least "griddy" US city.
>>52954786
Paris seems kind irregular but I feel like there is reason in the madness.
>>52954864
Is there any for Stockholm?
>>52954864
London was all "just fuck my shit up gov". I mean you could be on shrooms and see less fucking colors.
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>>52954598
Interactive maps here with a few more cities.
http://www.datapointed.net/2014/10/maps-of-street-grids-by-orientation/
>>52954864
Paris is much older.
>>52954953
No, this was done by some psychiatric patient btw.
Burg Kempen, Deutschland
>>52954990
Most of Paris intra-muros actual street layout is actually pretty young by European standard, most of it being done by Haussman around 1860.
Extra-muros it's anarchy and indeed some of the streets date back to the Romans...
Wambrechies, France.
>>52954698
>Finnish towns were not destructed by wars but by communist city planners.
Planners and bad architects ruined most English settlements, too. 50s/60s/70s. I guess by the 80s things started to improve. The planning was still mostly bad, but the suburbs being built were more and more often featuring traditional styles of architecture with a modern touch, and managed not to look like housing for prisoners, which is more than can be said for what came before.
>>52953404
it doesn't look that bad it's just I dont know, lego tier architecture?
you should build something like pic related
>>52955158
But compared to to American car-suburbs most of Paris is ancient :D And Haussmann didn't completely change the street layout, he just added some boulevards.
>>52953929
yes, you can post anything architecture related
The fantastic museum of Orsay.
>>52954598
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>>52954971
nice pics really interesting
Ely cathedral. One of the most fine cathedrals you'll come across in England.
>>52955288
Wow
Since everybody is posting cities by the water, Hamburg
I honestly don't understand why people hate stalinist architecture
>>52955512
>>52955618
Ribe cathedral, Denmark.
The main tower is completed without any spire or other ornament, making for an uninteresting silhouette. Shameful
>>52955522
my fav
>>52955522
Beautiful.
>>52955718
And this one is pretty much neo-stalinism.
>>52955688
That's it.
Fort Provintia, Tainan.
Fort Provintia was built in 1653 by the Dutch during their colonization of Taiwan and was eventually surrendered to Koxinga.
>>52955771
what is that it's causing me to feel stirrings
Basílica Menor de San Lorenzo
Santa Cruz, Bolivia
>>52955700
Danes are shameful
Also, guess this city:
A suburb in Cape Town called Claremont
Meet the new Paris. The baby was born today.
7 million inhabitants, quite a big baby.
Museum of Contemporary Art, Rosario, Argentina.
>>52955964
its Triumph Palace in Moscow
>>52956225
Are the whites already a minority?
>>52956225
So what changed? Now this Grand Paris Area with 7 million is statistically offical Paris instead of this core which had 2 mill or something before?
>>52956315
I feel like an autist for not knowing that actually
but then again when I was on the staryy arbat yesterday I thought the ministry of foreign affairs was the MGU kek
>>52956204
do you have any pictures of Pretoria? the architecture there is amazing
We're much more green than most people realize.
Kuwait National Assembly Building
>>52956470
I love the Jacaranda trees
who /urbanhell/ here?
>>52956517
My local park.
>>52956470
>>52956642
>>52956731
thats so beautiful. pretoria is so comfy
>>52956403
Stastically, official Paris is the urban area and is much wider than the Grand Paris and the intra muros-core. (Grand Paris is roughly the sum of the 92 + 93 + 94 + 75 départements, and bits of 95 of 91).
Soon many powers of the old communes, including the old intra-muros 2 million inhabitants core, will be transfered to the Grand Paris, including urban planning, managment of the streets and tax levying.
>>52956646
not into soviet commieblocks but I like chinese ones
>>52956819
or Singaporean ones
Master plan for Kunshan, China.
>>52956642
Planted manually.
Amsterdam is pretty neat.
>>52956990
Urban architecture isn't done naturally, it all has some form of human intervention
>tfw you will never get to plan a city from the ground in real life
Nettetal, Germany
>>52955288
>>52955507
He posted a rendering some art student made for a skyscraper in midtown manhattan
>>52957071
I wish canals were more common. So cozy
>>52957128
I would probably be shit at urban planning. My city would likely be grid system with soulless commieblocks in downtown and soulless suburbs outside. I like cities but I can't make them.
>>52959918
Fund it.
>>52960687
Grids are the best desu.
Palazzo dei Consoli is a medieval building in Gubbio, Umbria, central Italy.
The palace was built in 1332-1349 under design by Angelo da Orvieto, who is mentioned in the inscription on the portal.
American "houses"
>b-but we don't have t-terrace houses in the Land of the free and the brave, I s-swear!
A proper house in England.
>>52959918
it's really nice though
instead of 432 avenue and other boxes they should build the ones like this, I hope there will be some art deco revival in nyc
>>52961068
The people who say that live in rural areas, and look down on populated areas that have them mate.
Cottage house, March, Cambridgeshire
typical Finnish new family houses
Saint-Jean-de-Braye, France
>>52962344
it's sad you have so many lakes but you can't swim because they are frozen
why people hate skyscrapers and the modern architecture in general?
>>52962393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw_etnfujEo
yeah, you shouldn't
>>52962471
It is built to drive to/past, not walk past, the opposite of old architecture.
Burghley House (1555–1587), seat of the Marquess of Exeter, hereditary Lord Paramount of Peterborough
Who /snow/ here? Montreal last night.
>>52962471
They will build a nicer one in Chongqing
>>52961068
Why are you butthurt?
Southbank Place, London
Not bad. They sort of go with the existing tower. Minimalist pieces with large windows can be alright.
>>52962632
architecture serves to us, not the opposite
with the current populations, and the sizes of cities it's far more efficient/economical/ecological to build skyscraper which can deliver housing, office units, retail space all of this in 1 fucking building
people don't want to drive hours to their jobs, highrise architecture can vastly cut the commuting time
I dont know how do you even imagine a large metropolis without highrises and skyscrapers
like really I dont fucking get your logic, you would prefer to commute 2 hours a day to your job, live in some shitty suburbs or to have everything necessary in one place and having a good connection to the city centre?
even in ancient or middle ages metropolies like Rome or Hangzhou they already were building multiple stories to get more space
>>52953297
Brutalism can look cool.
>>52962756
is it U/C or just proposed?
>>52963227
honestly I prefer glass to concrete
or just anything else ;_;
>>52963185
>architecture serves to us, not the opposite
When we serve architecture, we build this: >>52956470, when architecture serves us, we build this >>52956646
I don't mind the size of the building, per se. I care what it looks like. If you build a city that looks like a prison, don't expect people to like it.
You don't need any more than 5 stories, anyway.
Building upwards is more of a bragging contest between architects, anyway. The scrapers going up in London tend to have a hard time selling space, IIRC.
>>52953297
Birmingham is currenty in the process of taking down its disgusting brutalist library. Hurrah.
>>52963665
To be replaced by a modern scheme.
Much better.
>>52963553
Depends on where you live. NYC obviously needs the space, we have a lot of business here.
>>52963227
>>52963553
>When we serve architecture, we build this: >>52956470, when architecture serves us, we build this >>52956646
Dude you pick extremes. You think there wasn't piece of shit architecture in the middle ages? No one bothered to preserve some trash though. Commieblocks were a mistake and I agree with that they wanted to deliver cheap housing to masses but the quality of this housing is just so bad.
>>52963553
>You don't need any more than 5 stories, anyway.
But you do. In ridiculously high density places like Hongkong where you are limited in terms of area you need very tall residental highrises - if you want to have a developed, populous city. In places like South Korea where you are not that limited but population density is still very high you need residental highrises aswell, not that tall but still. The same with Chinese megacities. Where do you want to fit all these 10 million cities? You want them to sprawl them infinitely? Or maybe just not to have cities at all because highrise architecture is disgusting after all? In Europe where population is not that high, where areas were quite developed since centuries and urbanization started earlier you have places with high density like Paris, London, Barcelona - there is a lot of traditional, very densely packed multi stories residentals there and it's pretty much working I think but still these cities build skyscrapers for offices because traditional buildings are not enough. Even in the US with their almost infinite space and sprawling suburbs and detached houses they erect tall skyscrapers in the cities' downtowns to deliver office space because how the hell you can fit it otherwise? Build multiple lowrise buildings which will take 10x more space? And for what reason? Large city without skyscrapers and highrises either wouldn't be large or wouldn't be really working like it's supposed to.
>>52964136
this
you simply CAN'T build lowrises in Manhattan or HK if you want to have efficient and developed city
and some of skyscrapers are worldwide recognizeable symbols, they are not all just boxy pieces of glass, steel and concrete built for the single purpose of cutting the commuting time
>>52967076
is halloween nice ?
>>52957128
Get Cities: Skylines
>>52963553
>You don't need any more than 5 stories, anyway.
Do people still believe that meme vid?
It's nice as long as you don't hate other people.
>>52967292
what meme vid tho
>>52967776
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy4QjmKzF1c
>>52967798
>Place like random like teeth in a gaping mouth
>British Dentistry
Some of his examples aren't even examples of the thing he is criticizing.
Also those "same height and width" buildings were pretty ugly...
>>52968103
Yeah, not a very good video in my opinion.
>>52953297
The Hancock building and the brownstones are pretty neat. I've lived here my entire life, but I've never seen or thought about the city hall, I just thought it was paired with the capital building.
I bet that my city has more bridges than yours.
>tfw city, yet least urban city ive ever been to
god bless Newfoundland
>>52973289
Is that a single massive church compound or there like 5 churches next to each other in the entire top left corner pic?
>>52956646
Do places like this even exist in america?
>>52973399
Yes, but people usually don't post them because they are ugly and not unique to the US, unlike sprawl which is ugly and unique.
>>52973339
1 church, the basilica of St. Jean le Baptiste
pretty nice if you ask me
>>52973289
>tfw you don't live in St. John's
>>52963227
Believe it or not. Brutalism is much more expensive than Modernist.
>>52963227
Hate it, hate it!
>>52953047
That looks almost as bad as down town Dallas.
>>52973289
What the fuck is with Newfoundland urban development. Even PEI has bigger "cities".
>be me
>be 24 years old
>never have visited london
I have visited many other major world cities and all the other major cities of the UK though.
Honestly next week I might just go down on my lonesome and just walk around to appreciate it for a few days
>>52974189
thats a good one
>St. John's - 100k
>St. John's Metropolitan Area - 200k
>Charlottetown - 34k
>Charlottetown Metropolitan Area - 60k
they actually have cultural bylaws saying you cant build over a certain amount of stories.
>open thread
>see a bunch of great photos of your own city
thank you fellow new yorker and pole bro
>>52974397
you're welcome
>>52974281
But these pictures you've been posting of St. John's look almost exactly like Charlottetown except the harbour is a little different.
>>52974744
desu Atlantic Canada pretty much carries the same culture from Nova Scotia to PEI, to Newfoundland.
the main difference is that up until the 70's, St. John's was one of the world's largest navigational/trading harbours, which led to major growth, but since Canada fucked them over, the population stagnated.
the difference between most of Atlantic Canadian cities and St. John's is that St. John's is not just a harbour
>>52974920
What do you think about Guatemala?
>All these Eastern Euros shilling for more glass boxes
wew lads.
I'm really starting to get tired of modern architecture. Here in Chicago they are destroying the early 20th century buildings with beautiful stone facades in favor of extremely ugly glass highrises with absolute shit parking garages below them which does absolute shit for the streetscape. There is more to a city than the skyline. The only reason people love NYC so much is because it's really the only city (alongside Chicago) to really do the skyscraper right (i.e. focusing on what it looks like from the ground as a pedestrian).
This is probably the best/most unique building in the my city.
>>52975336
this
aerial view is only ever used for news stations and tourism adverts
Does your city have giant parks? New York has Central Park, San Francisco has Golden Gate Park, and San Diego has the terribly underrated Balboa Park.
>>52953822
is this an industrial town?
>>52963227
This one looks great.
>>52975717
Hyde and Regents parks lad
>>52975801
Noice.
>>52975336
Yeah walking through downtown Chicago is pretty fucking boring. You'd never guess there are beautiful tall buildings above your head. And looking up doesn't help much either.
>>52975717
>>52975801
Boston Common and Public Garden, the oldest city park in the country.
>>52975419
Hints of art deco
>>52975419
reminds me of the german film "metropolis" from '37 or somewhere around that
>>52975419
Looks like a 8 year old designed it. Modern Architecture is a joke
>>52975801
>>52975717
>>52975990
Cuts off a bit of the park but shows how the greenery continues into the residential areas.
Montreal city
>>52976412
nice skyline, too bad its french
>>52976444
>>52976444
Best looking cities in Canada are French. Best Maple syrup is French. Best food is French. French Canada best Canada.
French Canadians are also worst tourists.
>>52976544
Best looking city in Canada is Toronto but Montreal is nice
>>52976756
Utterly soulless. Even Quebec City crushes Toronto.
>>52976814
Ålesund is pretty based, as it feels the criteria for both great nature and great architecture.
It is however an incredibly warm and rainy town, which might turn people off.
>>52962471
For Finland specifically, skyscrapers do not mesh with our geography or climate. The sun is at a low angle for most of the year, so tall buildings will put everything in a near-permanent shade. Helsinki in particular is windy, and skyscrapers would funnel the winds more which would make being outside unbearable, especially in winter.
As far as personal reasons go, I don't like light pollution or the of the steel/glass/concrete combo. The latter especially has a factory/prison aesthetic that doesn't feel appropriate for something meant for being lived in by normal people. Skyscrapers don't have just one symbolic dimension of "wow they're so high I'm gonna aim high too!" but they also create a looming, oppressive atmosphere.
The economic arguments for skyscrapers are flimsy because they are self-inflicted. Population growth and economic activity concentrating in a few cities aren't unsolvable problems, and tall buildings are just a bad bandaid.
>>52949365
Less than 3,000 people with pretty much no crime. Cozy as fuck but will probably leave again soon for work or "dreams" idk
>>52953297
Boston has great architecture, you just picked the worst shit here.
>>52964829
I disagree. Only in extreme cases like HK is density a problem.
In NYC and the like, the solution is to simply grow the centre outwards. You don't need the external non-central boundaries to increase. If you look at a population density in NYC, it'd look something like graph 1. It should look like graph 2. This could be achieved by building mixed use cities, as used to be done before the car. Then you wouldn't need oversized buildings.
Worcester, Englel.
Not as impressive as other cities of its type, like Lincoln or York, and therefore is oft forgotten.
>>52980587
And here is Bancraft Tower, in Worcester's twin city of Worcester, MA.
Catherine Palace in Pushkin, Saint Petersburg
Sizergh Castle and Gardens, Cumbria
It annoys me when they call stately homes "castles". Germans do it all the time.
>New World cities
LOL
O
L
>>52976162
>Modern Architecture is a joke
that's postmodernism. There is nothing modern about it.
>image limit
>>52973289
I couldn't be living in a place like this.
>>52975948
you see them if you are outside of the downtown though
>>52980861
new one
>>52984868
>>52956037
Jönköping
