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Will Japanese economy ever start to grow again? It's been 20 years already...
>>52886039
as long as US exists, nothing can be better.
the same goes for most western countries.
>>52886039
Poland. Worry about your economy.
You may not know, but Japan is third place of economy.
>>52886176
not for long, designated shitting streets are coming for you
>>52886039
Government bond reduction
Nope, they can't grow more with their declining population. It's good tho, because they are just an island with few natural resources and it's insane to be so populated. They will still be a great technological country.
>>52886375
>designated shitting streets are coming for you
Both is an island nation, but indisputably you're mistaking Japan for Britain.
>>52886590
(what economy need to rebuild)
>>52886176
lol. Polish men are far right catholic, japanese men are addicted to hentai.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_AhReQDqcU
>>52886636
But even their GDP per capita doesn't improve. It's not all about declining population, they just suck.
And no they are barely in top most technologically advanced countries now, surpassed by all Nordics, South Korea etc.
>>52886736
Shitting streets/poo in loo = India.
>>52886039
We have to wait for another 20 yrs because population of our elderly gets decent then.
only idiot can be pro-american after nuclear weapon.
you have to hate murrican even more than arabs do it
>>52886039
Maybe if they stimulated growth through social policies that address their rapidly aging population and relax their immigration policies. And then fuck off with lifetime employment.
Basically everything conservative-ass Japan would never do.
>>52886887
Japan is not pro America, but Jewish capital always give us the wealth and honor from 16 century.
>>52886908
>relax their immigration policies
That sure worked well for Sweden :^)
>>52887009
but I guess most immigrants would be Filipino, Vietnamese or Chinese anyway, much better than fucking shariah law or some shit
US is all built on immigrants the thing is they don't take the retarded ones in, even mexcrements are better than ahmeds.
>>52887271
Because european immigration is handled by an idiot from the EU who spent years in university on the subject but has absolutely no firsthand experience on immigration from foreign countries.
>>52886039
When the population will start to grow again, mmmkay?
>>52887368
well arabs and turks are potentially the largest immigrating group to the EU anyway it's not like we could choose it, and generally it's not so easy to get to the US/Canada(even apart of immigration policy, you have to get through the ocean after all) so I guess you get more decent people,
christ in your history you got people like Bell or Einstein and we got what? burka durka kebab
I know you got mexcrements and other shitty immigrants too but I still think immigration in the US is managed much better
The United States was afraid of the expansion of the communism for the cold war era.
The important local one to suppress the expansion was Japan. Therefore the Japanese economy grew up under the protection of the United States. But, the Cold War terminated. So the present status is the ability of Japan. Japanese work well. It is very good thing. But the Japanese economy will not grow up again if we do not change the way of thinking other than it.
>>52886039
Probably it is going to rise in another 20 years. The decliment of population is going to make Japan stronger as most jobs can be replaced by automation within the next 20 years. Thats why Germany is going to get very very weak.
Because of the problem of s●x sl●ves, Japan has been demanded lots of money, and will.
Damn it.
>>52886836
Japan’s population is shrinking in both total and working age (15-65yo), which prevent both total and per capita growth because increased productivity is offset by increased retired population. As the proportion of non-woking age population is already largest among developed nations and increasing at the fastest rate, conventional economic growth is pretty hard for us.
That said, Japan’s GDP is to increase by at least 3% next year, because it finally complies with the 2008 SNA (calculating method for GDP), with which most countries including US and EU have already complied, and the new method counts R&D expenses, which Japan pays a lot every year compared to common countries, as investment, making Japan’s GDP look larger than it was considered. Also, in terms of tech, Japan is still pretty good-tier.
>>52886836
UK will overtake Japan tho
>>52889250
COMFORT WOMEN
>>52889387
FRANCE
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A HAPPY NEW YEAR
>>52890851
HAPPY NEW YEAR NIPPON
>>52889387
>patent volume
lad ...
>>52889743
when?
I highly doubt it they still have 100m+ population and they won't lag that much behind
>>52886039
>>52886375
Why are you trying to bully the japanese now also?
>>52886836
>surpassed by all Nordics, South Korea etc
A Japanese car is still better than a German or Korean car, if by nordic you mean scandinavian countries they simply have nothing comparably relevant apart Norwegian oil.
Also, said by Poland this is funny.
>>52894992
>A Japanese car is still better than a German or Korean car
kek
>>52886375
designated post
>>52895148
Wonderful reply. Sure showed him there.
nips are working hard and likes to dring alcohol
>>52894875
Probably in the 2030s. We have serious advantages: a more 21st century economy oriented towards services, the European Single Market which will make it easier to grow British businesses larger when it opens more to services (it's happening in Cameron's renegotiation), there is London, a larger proportion of working age people which will continue into the future, and total population growth which will take us closer to Japan - we should hit 70 million in the 2020s. Still much smaller than Japan but as I said, our situation is helped by the combination of the Single Market (500 million consumers on tap) and close relations with important markets outside of Europe, either cultural links (like the USA) or ties that date from Empire
>>52895148
German cars have good reliable engines but most of them are literally the same car copypasted in different versions, anyway the VW scandal showed how they simply aren't as exceptional as they pretend to be.
I don't think Korean car industry can compete yet, but they make excellent LCD panels I can agree with that.
>>52889387
>Innovation hotspot
>country that still uses fax machine and still didn't unlock tech tree branches for thermal insulation and central heating
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>>52894875
>>52895578
Forgot to link what Google's Eric Schmidt said about the UK with regards to the Single Market:
>Speaking to BBC Radio 4's Today programme, Mr Schmidt said that "Britain is the leader in e-commerce in the world, far ahead of the United States.
>"Britain has every aspect to build billion pound, ten billion pound, hundred billion pound companies.
>"You have the right regulatory environment. You've got the right role within [the European] continent. [Just] look at the e-commerce plays and service plays that are now happening in London.
>"Europe is pushing on a European digital single market and in the timeframe of you building a small start-up, the Europeans will figure out a way of building a single digital market for your products."
>He added there were no barriers to launching "a European-scale corporation that is larger than a US-scale corporation".
>>52895677
And I forgot the link again. Here we go
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35196245
Why has japan forsaken its warrior philosophy?
>>52895666
Fax machines are still popular in many places for simply practical reasons, especially when you have not-so-young workers.
Nothing wrong with tree branches IMO, sounds pretty eco friendly and cool.
>>52895214
nothing to reply to, it's about opinions
>>52895578
>>52895677
>>52895729
Why the fuck so many Brits spam about their alleged growth and success in future. Your country got some positive media recently and you got excited or what?
>>52896664
You asked a question and got a reply with an explanation justifying my prediction. If you don't want to hear about the UK, don't ask about it. Alright?
>>52896880
I just don't think you are going to surpass 127m country. You know maybe Japan didn't move at all since last 20 years... but I wouldn't say it's not going to grow next 20 years too.
>>52897092
>I just don't think you are going to surpass 127m country
And why not? We have a larger economy than countries with much larger populations than Japan.
>You know maybe Japan didn't move at all since last 20 years... but I wouldn't say it's not going to grow next 20 years too.
I never said Japan isn't going to grow at all. But I don't think it can grow as much as the UK. This isn't all about population or workforce/elderly ratio. It's about the structure of the economy, the fundamentals, some of the things that Schmidt was talking about.
Put simply I think the UK has been developing a more modern economy which will a greater asset in the future than it has been the past, as the emerging economies (like China and India) are coming out of basic development, and will want to become advanced economies. In that transition the demand will shift from manufactured goods more towards services.
Another article for you:
>In a first for a major economy, Britain's exports of services from debt swaps to Downton Abbey are close to overtaking those of manufactured goods, offering a way to narrow a persistent trade deficit.
>Britain was the world's biggest exporter of manufactured goods in the 19th century before it was overtaken by Germany and the United States, and later by Japan, South Korea and China.
>Services, by contrast, have been a more durable source of advantage for Britain and in recent years they have become easier to sell around the world, thanks to the spread of the English language and the Internet, and greater demand for the kind of financial and business services in which Britain specialises.
>Sometimes dubbed 'invisible exports', Britain sold 220 billion pounds of services abroad last year, second only to the United States.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-economy-exports-analysis-idUKKCN0T40QI20151115
>>52897535
>>52897092
In particular
>For rich countries, manufacturing still tends to make up the lion's share of exports. But Britain has proved an exception.
>Some of this is due to advantages that date back centuries, such as the global influence of the City of London, the English language and its legal and educational systems.
>But it also reflects how Britain is further along a path of deindustrialisation affecting most advanced economies.
This is one of those developments that most people may not notice for a while. Nevertheless it's happening. That the UK is leading the way once again should not come as a surprise to those familiar with our history
>>52898019
>That the UK is leading the way once again should not come as a surprise to those familiar with our history
The empire will not come back m8, this time you have nobody to exploit.
>>52898628
I was referring to the past innovations like the industrial and scientific revolutions, and the economic revolution that was the pioneering use of the central bank in the Napoleonic wars. Those are examples of forward thinking which made Britain successful
I wish foreigners would stop talking about the empire coming back. The 21st century is no time for colonial empires, that is obvious as hell. The world has changed, you need to adapt to the new circumstances or fall behind
>>52899518
>scientific revolutions
Which was started by Galileo Galilei and the Italian Reinassance ;)
>>52899957
Yes the Italian city states made an important contribution
>>52897535
>And why not? We have a larger economy than countries with much larger populations than Japan.
And what you compare fucking Japan to Indonesia or Nigeria? It's not the same league.
While I don't think Japan will grow significantly, but I'm pretty sure Britain won't magically catch up - it'd require almost some revolution/large scale innovation. And Pacific is the centre of the world now, not Atlantic, I'm sure nothing of significance will come from Europe in incoming centuries.
>>52886039
the glorious days would never come back again. even most of younger generation of works and teenagers know Japan never arise again.
>>52900350
>And what you compare fucking Japan to Indonesia or Nigeria? It's not the same league.
It's nice to see you admit there's more to this than population alone.
>I'm pretty sure Britain won't magically catch up
You keep saying we won't catch up. That doesn't make it true. Here's another article for you, this one references a think tank which explicitly says the UK will overtake Japan
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/12068319/Booming-Britain-to-become-worlds-fourth-largest-economy-as-France-and-Italy-face-G8-exclusion.html
Quote from article:
>Bumper growth will put Britain on course to become the world's fourth largest economic powerhouse ahead of an ageing Japan and Germany in the 2030s, according to the CEBR's latest world economic league table.
>And Pacific is the centre of the world now, not Atlantic
The Pacific is becoming more important, which is why Britain is putting more effort into forming closer relationships with important countries of the Asia-Pacific, such as China and Japan. The UK's geographical location continues to be an advantage. One of the reasons China wants London to be the Western hub of the Renminbi, is because - unlike in the Asia-Pacific and America - in London you can do forex trading across all major trading timezones in the same day. You get Asia in the morning and America in the afternoon.
Furthermore, there is no reason why Britain can't strengthen its presence in the Asia-Pacific itself. Indeed it's already doing this.
>I'm sure nothing of significance will come from Europe in incoming centuries.
That's a nice opinion but it's supported by absolutely nothing. You may not like what I have to say, but I have at least supported my arguments with respected sources
>>52901834
>That's a nice opinion but it's supported by absolutely nothing.
It's supported by the fact we just had 500 years of European domination
it's extremely unlikely this trend will continue(especially when taking in consideration it already ended)
>>52902286
Obviously Europe isn't "dominating", but that's not what you said. Which was this:
>I'm sure nothing of significance will come from Europe in incoming centuries.
Why can't Europe produce anything of significance? Could you define what you mean by that?
>>52902485
you are not even surpassing Germany for now
>>52903047
Well yeah, we have several years of catching up to do before we can get ahead of Germany.
Why are you changing the subject though? Can you clarify what you said earlier? >>52902485
Gundams
>>52904379
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJocyv2iLhY
>>52903319
you can't repeat success infinitely
chances of Europe being STILL, after fucking 500 years dominant are none
and without that world wide domination, without some kind of boom or revolution you are not going to be top 3 economy with fucking 70m population, it's like a joke, Japan is sick though I don't think they will be top 3 or even top 5 either, they dont learn from their mistakes all they always did was building their state and economy based on Western Europe and the US
and maybe you have all of these articles but your growth in the recent years isn't particularly impressive and it has to be - if you are thinking of surpassing Japan
>>52895799
Probably because of Fat Man and Little Boy.
>>52905188
>you can't repeat success infinitely
You are absolutely right. And we haven't. Britain has had some spectacular failures amongst the successes.
>chances of Europe being STILL, after fucking 500 years dominant are none
I'm not saying Europe will be dominant. Europe isn't dominant at the moment and hasn't been for many decades. This must be a language problem; you don't need to be dominant in order to produce something of significance.
>and maybe you have all of these articles but your growth in the recent years isn't particularly impressive and it has to be - if you are thinking of surpassing Japan
I think it has been fairly impressive. Since 1980, that's 35 years, the UK has grown faster than our major Western peers. See graph related. We don't have short periods of ultra-fast growth but we have steady, decent growth over a long period of time. That combined with a stable, friendly environment for business is *exactly* what's needed to overtake other Western countries
>>52895799
you made us do it. what makes us Japanese love sucking American D so far, unlike sand niggers?
Anything Japan does, there will be an army of Japanophobes bashing them for it
>>52895666
also Galapagos phones. fucking cavemen.
