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This country deserves to burn if we actually put this dipshit into power.
Who /sanders here/
>>52864647
Believe me we won't, but it's fun watching his party fall apart
>>52864696
Sjw anders here >>52864696
>>52864697
>but it's fun watching his party fall apart
kek republicans are literally dying off.
In a decade they are done.
>>52864696
This.
>>52864697
I'm really not so sure.
>>52864772
If there were a litteral Republican who actually had experience and knowledge that isn't Rand Paul than trump wouldn't be in the lead
>>52864766
Ahem
http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/minorities-line-up-behind-donald-trump/#RgUokOwvlQXh4CLv.99
What, did you think white people were the ones stupid enough to vote for Trump?
>>52864858
>Sweden
>superpower
This is new
>>52864851
Jeb! >>52864851
>>52864851
But the thing is, there is no such Republican.
Sitting back and saying "There's no way he can win, it's just a joke, and even if it's not, I'm sure someone will appear to unseat him" is dangerous.
>>52864858
>http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/minorities-line-up-behind-donald-trump/#RgUokOwvlQXh4CLv.99
kek really?
This site is a really right wing and for nutjobs.
>telephone
oh jesus!
>>52864978
Hence why you have an opposing political entity to pick up the slack when no republican candidates are suitable.
>>52864978
Dangerous sure but very likely
>>52864748
>muh sjw bogeyman
/pol pls
>>>>52865068
No I'm just an American from reddit who thinks all of 4chan is /b/
>>52865061
People don't like Hillary, and either don't know about Sanders or buy into the dank essjaydubya/soshilisum maymays.
sup
>>52865144
Then Rubio or that black guy Christian will win. Maybe even ted Cruz
>>52864858
That's only Ohio.
Would be better if the poll was taken in California, Texas, New York, and the south
>>52864601
>>52865144
What's wrong with Hillary?
>>52865230
Is this because only Ohio makes it work or because they're the worst off?
>>52865204
Ted Cruz is most likely out of that trio.
>more right-wing than Trump
>Spanish last name
>>52865266
Can't whitewash your image that easily after 30 years on the howard stern show.
>>52865336
>cruz
Nope. Just like Trump.
Not good for the establishment.
>>52865298
>what's wrong with Hillary
She's a corrupt last generation moderate who will just do what advisors say
>>52865298
>What's wrong with Hillary?
She's just another corporate-sponsored D.C. insider with a history of blatantly changing her positions to suit what's popular at the time. She's also got the issues of going head-to-head with Sanders, who has been far more consistent in his views - I think she'd be doing a lot better if he weren't an alternative.
>>52865298
Because the states I mentioned have more minorities
I just want to watch trump in office from outside and see what happens to 'murica
>>52864696
Da Tovarishsch. I too am an American and a supporter of Bernard Sanders. We must all do our part to ensure the end of the fascist Donald Trump and to ensure the revolution reaches our country.
>>52865470
This pretty much, he doesn't want to do unnecessary wars so that's good for me.
>>52865524
2bh, if you want the revolution to reach America, vote for Republicans and keep us on our current economic path.
>>52865394
>>52865431
That's every candidate in every election ever, except maybe Trump. Hillary is just worse at hiding it, is that really what it comes down to between her and Sanders or is there some other issue?
>>52865440
Seems odd that they would out-vote the white population in favor of Trump, what minorities live in Ohio? Not muslims, I assume.
>>52865537
Like just to observe all of the things he does and the support/backlash that follows
>>52865537
America doesn't start wars, wars come to America by threatening their foreign influence. I don't think who's president will decide whether there's war or not.
>>52865584
>implying there's a difference between the democratic/republican economic policy.
>being this bluepilled.
>>52865590
If anyone, it's Sanders.
Trump has historically been a dye-in-the-wool Democrat supporter. It's just that whenever he gets called out on it, he makes another dank politically incorrect quote and his supporters forget about it.
>>52864601
>voting for a frogposter
>>52865590
Mostly blacks
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/39000.html
>>52864601
THE
ABSOLUTE
MADMAN
>>52865708
Well, as far as mainstream politics go, the only calls for social democratic reform seem to be coming from (individual) Democrats.
The party itself is typical neoliberal shit, I'll grant you that.
>>52865721
Makes sense, he's not a conditioned suit taught to only follow his party's interests after all. I always thought 2-party structures were strange, why would you ever classify something a republican did as "democratic"?
>>52864601
>voting for sanders
ISHYGDDT.
NO to xenophobia
YES to racism
>>52865947
I will wager you can't give a good argument against it that doesn't involve...
>Fox News tier economic memes that my grandparents get in chain emails from their retiree friends
>The buzzwords words "cuck" or "SJW"
>The argument that "he can't win/he'll just be a lame duck so you should vote for someone whose policy you find reprehensible instead"
>>52866031
The costs of his proposal greatly outweigh his proposed plans to pay for them.
There are approximately 20 million students in higher education in america. If each one was subsidized on average say, $5k a semester, that would already be 200 billion dollars a year. And the actual price would probably be even higher, as universities would jack their prices to reap government gibs me dat, and more people would enroll because they don't have to pay.
And that's just education. He also wants to give everyone free healthcare. Pick up an economics book, will ya?
>>52866088
>he literally fails the first memetext restriction
Can't Trump of all people afford better shills?
>mfw the Republican nominee will be a far-right candidate such as Ted Cruz, Donald Trump or the negroe
>mfw when even """libertarian""" Rand moved to a more conservative position
>mfw it all will be a free pass to Hillary
>>52866135
Excellent counter argument xe!
>>52866088
lel
>>52866167
I'm going to count "xe" as a permutation of the dank essjaydubya meme, so you've failed 2/3 so far.
>>52866088
Education is already subsidized
I dont think hes actually trying to be president really. I think hes doing the thing where you go in asking for way more than you ever expect to get, and then when you ask for what you want, you look reasonable and willing to compromise.
Hes basically combating political correctness by being so inflammatory that the people just saying things how it is dont get looked at like some sort of radical crazy person.
Would be fun if hes president though. I hope either him or hillary get in, everyone else would be boring.
>>52866206
>blocking out the name so you can't see if these are real accounts or troll accounts
>>52866088
That's the ideal though, in reality they only intend to subsidize a smaller number of students. If you only give money to people of "practical" education that's not only manageable but should yield great results.
Or you could just keep leeching off our good will and send your students here for free education. Just don't complain if we brainwash them with anti-american sentiments.
>>52866228
No but really. Let's hear your rebuttal about why this senile old man has the right of it. Why do you think I should be punished by taxation to care for some limp wristed faggot to go to college to get his liberal arts degree. Or to take care of Tyrone and Jamarcus who shot each other up over a sidewalk territorial dispute?
>>52866229
Note the "higher education" part.
Why does /pol/ suddenly care so much about the national debt?
>>52866031
If Sanders were to get elected, his presidency would be less noteworthy than Obama's. I'm sure Congress would love to veto every thing he wants, and has promised to pass.
>>52864696
>socialists
>superpowers
Im going to vote for Bernie Sanders because hes going to give me free shit. who DOESNT like free shit?
>>52866381
Note that it already is.
>>52866381
>conservatives literally cannot argue without resorting to buzzwords, fox news memes and racist stereotypes
This is why your """""""ideology""""""" is dying off with the Baby Boomers, lad.
>>52866334
Doesn't matter to me. The kids who can't afford college (which is pretty pathetic in the first place) are your typical dude weed lmao guys. I could afford to pay 4k a semester with financial aid covering up about half of my school education. All the whIle I work in a machinists shop making $15 an hour at part time.
>>52866307
>Getting BTFO by troll acounts
Ayyy
>>52866088
With nationalized healthcare we would probably end up spending less on healthcare than we currently do. Its not like medicade/cal dont cost a lot of money, and they cost a lot because health care costs so fucking much. If we had a single payer system everyone would get healthcare and i wouldnt be surprised if we ended up paying less for coverage for everyone than we do now for coverage just for medicaid/care
Not to mention all the other non directly related costs associated with no healthcare for everyone. Crime would go down, for example, meaning less cost dealing with that.
National healthcare is no more socialist than having a standing army or public scools is. Its about the appropriate level of socialism.
>>52864696
Who don't understand basic economics here?
Fixed.
>>52866492
Ah once again nice rebuttal buddy. Now off to your diversity class and remember, check your privilege you shitlord.
>>52866498
By that logic, you should charge people for highschool too. Having an educated population is the opposite of bad.
>>52866533
I agree but with today's capitalistic views on healthcare, it won't get cheaper until we cut the cancerous growth that is big pharmacy. Capitalism is nice and all, but it sure as hell does have its downfalls.
>>52866434
Grandpa, you're supposed to be napping.
>>52866498
>The kids who can't afford college (which is pretty pathetic in the first place) are your typical dude weed lmao guys.
Source? I know it's completely unlike conservatives to make baseless claims that simply appeal to your prejudices, but I'd still rather not risk that happening here.
>>52866555
>he literally does it again as a retort
>>52864696
FEEL
THE
BERN
>>52866626
>mfw people IRL either forgot about this or think Sanders made the right move/criticized the protesters
>>52866612
Because our generation doesn't fucking work and wants everything handed to them like the entitled brats we are and that's fucking disgusting and pathetic.
http://www.newsweek.com/2015/06/05/millennial-college-graduates-young-educated-jobless-335821.html
>>52866760
In a way, he did. By letting them speak they ended up ousting the BLM movement as ridiculous, and rather than looking like he wouldn't support free speech, he did and it back fired for the hecklers.
>>52866533
That's just it. I mean, nobody has free healthcare, in Sweden we have a system where you pay for your health care (to prevent abuse) but the state covers excess expenses. It's not socialism, it's just common sense.
>>52866607
Do pharmaceuticals really wield enough power to control government, or is it just a general ill will towards public health care?
>>52866760
Letting them speak was the single most damaging thing he could've done. That's how we handled the feminist party in sweden, they were allowed to share their views and have been constantly losing support ever since.
>>52866874
>>52866943
Congratulations, you're a remotely sensible person capable of basic critical thinking.
>>52866882
> or is it just a general ill will towards public health care?
It's a culture of "one-upmanism". Paying for your fellow man's health care often seems unfathomable to the american.
>>52866971
That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said on /int/
>>52866882
Thet hire lobbyists. Plus universal healthcare is seen as evil communism by a lot of Americans
>>52866882
They don't control government but do you by chance remember that guy who bought that HIV and jacked that price up insanely? While I disagree with what he did, he did expose how flawed the system is and how high leading figures in the pharmaceutical business are willing to overinflate their prices. You can take the same concept for college too. The student/loan ratio has been getting way out of control and colleges are now being filled with useless classes that you don't even need and have no need to be at a college.
>>52866612
>claims a certain rhetoric voids the argument
>proceeds to use that same kind of rhetoric in his own posts
>>52865394
>>52865431
These. She's also a gun control advocate.
I'm not even a gun enthusiast, but Second Amendment rights shouldn't be infringed.
>>52867129
Which argument would that be?
The claim that every ("pathetic") kid who can't afford college is a "typical dude weed lmao guy" ?
>>52867100
>that HIV pill
Ftfm
>>52867223
Can you prove him wrong though? Those are the typical kids who do whine about it. The same kids who wanted to be paid $15 an hour to flip burgers. The same kids who think raising minimum wage will somehow fix up everything and make small businesses thrive.
>>52867100
That's basically every university though, except in Japan where they're getting rid of "useless" classes like art.
>do you by chance remember that guy who bought that HIV and jacked that price up insanely
I looked it up and it's making me physically ill. It's the opposite of the polio vaccine, how hated is this guy?
>>52867306
Pretty much universally hated. Imo a nesscesary evil to expose the shit show that is our healthcare.
>>52867290
What am I proving wrong, exactly?
>Those are the typical kids who do whine about it
[citation needed]
>The same kids who wanted to be paid $15 an hour to flip burgers.
[citation needed]
>The same kids who think raising minimum wage will somehow fix up everything and make small businesses thrive.
[citation needed]
Again, these sound a lot like baseless accusations that appeal solely to crude prejudice.
>>52867397
See
>>52866853
We're all entitled little kids playing at adult life.
>>52867385
Any mad gunmen on the job or has he secluded himself in some evil fortress?
>>52867509
He got arrested for security fraud iirc
>>52867473
There is nothing in that article suggesting an unwarranted sense of entitlement.
>>52866853
Nothing new, all throughout history there have been worthless people. We're just noticing them more because they're not relegated to the gutter, and they've grown larger due to, as you said, being pampered.
That doesn't mean it's hopeless, eventually they'll have to work.
>>52866943
Preach, Sweden. Lend us your knowledge of the ridiculous progressives.
>>52867473
>Baby boomers don't want to retire
>voted for politicians that sent jobs overseas and gave visas to any Indian and Chinese
>Brought in illegals to do work that teenagers and poor people could have done
>Millennials are all spoiled brats!!!
>>52866882
>Do pharmaceuticals really wield enough power to control government,
Yes, They have a massive amount of money and very strong lobbies
You know all those 'anti piracy' acts that threaten the safety of the internet? IF you read the fine print they are actually about pharmaceuticals. They all include parts that talk about 'counterfeit drugs'.
The truth is it costs almost nothing to make most medicines.
Do you know what iran has? A bunch of counterfeit viagra factories. And look who the US hates...
Oil and drugs, those are probably the two strongest things on the planet right now.
>>52867592
>most of the millennial generation doesn't work
>these are the same millennials who're gonna vote for senile sanders cause dude free stuff lmao.
You really can't put two and two together huh?
>>52867619
You're right but caving into these lazy brats is wrong. When my father was growing up, he didn't have his hand held throughout life. He worked and bought his own things like insurance and all that jazz. I won't help you if you don't help yourself and look where that has gotten me. 2 daughters, a decent paying job while I go through college to get an mechanical engineering degree. I do enough to get by while supporting my family and use the already available resources that are given to me.
>>52867727
Tbf we are spoiled. We complain how it was easier for them to get a job right out of high school and live their life. Well, at 22, I'm doing that just fine.
>>52867841
>most of the millennial generation doesn't work
Why don't they work? Did you read the article?
>these are the same millennials who're gonna vote for senile sanders cause dude free stuff lmao.
Sauce?
>>52864696
Best of the bunch tbhf
Maybe O'malley or one of the tiny republicans is sane too, but I wouldn't know
>>52865584
>he still buys into the red vs blue fairy tale
Holy shit dude, do you still think Santa is real too?
I would vote for this man
>>52868519
This was addressed quite a while ago
>>52865790
>>52868585
Social democratic reform is a bunch of ludicrous buzzwords pasted together to appear smart though. You said nothing of substance. Define it.
Also
>he tried to bash the amash
>>52869045
>social democracy
>reform
Neither of these are buzzwords, nor are they particularly ludicrous.
Let's take two of the biggest social democratic policies at the moment...
>adoption of a single payer universal healthcare system
>adoption of tax-funded, tuition free public university system
Exclusively coming from Democratic lawmakers, as far as I know.
Did you actually think pretending you didn't know this would sink my argument?
>"ludicrous"
>mfw
