Tell me about the language in your country.
Does your language have dialects? Mine doesn't, but we have different regional accents.
(btw there IS a difference between the two, make sure you know them m8s)
>>52822192
This map sucks.
>>52822192
What a shitty map.
>>52822192
Yes we have northern and western German which is basically normal German and we have Bavarian/southern German and eastern German. Southern German sounds funny and eastern German sounds absolutely stupid.
>>52822260
>>52822301
here is a much more detailed one
>>52822192
>>52822192
>implying Northern Virginia falls in old southern range anymore
I don't know what exactly it could be classified as now, but it's not that. And even still, most of Virginia is rhotic no matter where you go so is it even a southern accent disregarding Northern Virginia?
>>52822358
I live near Gettysburg and I don't get this whatsoever. Pennsylvania is so fucked up.
>live in Florida
>people keep asking where in NY do I have as I have a NY accent when im on Skype with them
>>52822192
My accent is basically a general american accent except I pronounce quarter differently
Yay connecticut, we're so special we say quarter differently
>>52822746
A lot of people near me pronounce it KOR-DER.
>tfw from rural kentucky and i'm the only person i know without a detectable accent
>>52822909
we pronounce it QUAR-DER
>>52822973
>tfw from virginia and literally every other person has a slightly different accent
kinda
>>52822192
Arizona doesn't have the Californian valley accent you fucking quivering cunt.
Holy shit this map triggers me so hard.
It should be at least 75% Midwest.
>>52822192
0/10 map. Kill self.
>>52822358
Don't use this map, it is fucked and the creator clearly guessed a shitton.
>>52823131
I know a guy with an 18th century ancestral plantation near Smithfield. The guy has the coolest fucking accent I've ever heard, he sounds like a South African Colonel Sanders.
>>52823757
>ywn have a plantation accent like frank underwood
>>52822192
http://vocaroo.com/i/s07AeR0Q6SOk
Born and raised in Minnesota, and those here who have accents have very strong ones.
>>52824065
i can't get the association of the minnesotan accent and a mid-40s obese and short soccer mom out of my head
pls tell me not all women there sound like that
or atleast that's not how you normally talk
My girlfriend is from Texas and doesn't have a Texan accent. I'm from the valley and don't have a "val" accent
>>52822192
Uh. No. Your map is fake and gay.
>tfw no more transatlantic accent
>tfw Appalachian accent but not retarded
Hard vowel sounds and obscure sayings everywhere, son.
>>52824200
kek
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1XYFC8nFEMy
I'm from a smaller town with a Norwegian grandmother which is why mine is so bad.
>>52822192
>>52822604
I can understand a lot of Venetian, my grandfather was from Belluno
>>52823547
I think its just based on data that is outdated in some cases. Modern southern is definitely rhotic, but on that map it claims most of south GA drops word final r. i.e. number -> numbah. Only older people do that now, and blacks but their speech develops and changes separately from ours.
>>52822192
>canadian accent
>not Minneh-sotah accent
>>52824987
please don't bully our accent friend
>>52823343
nice memel
>>52822973
>>52822358
>map gore
>>52824065
Why do you sound like Sarah Palin who was raised on the mean streets?
>>52822192
We have strong dialects, but very few people speak them any more. I speak a south west central dialect of scots, but only with a few friends and i spoke with my father (who died a few years ago). I have family who speak insular scots, and it is slightly mutually intelligible.
Also, it hefty pisses me off when people say that it is just wrong english - this was the worst in school, when our teacher (who came from england) couldn't understand any scots. It should be her responsibility to learn the local dialect, not all the kids to abandon their culture.
I was fucking sent home from school for speaking my own language - in 2000. This is still ongoing and will continue until the language dies.
>>52826058
Are you from/near Ayrshire? I knew people from Ayrshire once. I'm sure they were nice and all, but I couldn't understand anything they were saying.
t. london
>>52826058
a little west of ayrshire
and that was probably our dialect of english that you couldnt understand. The dialect of scots would be much harder to pick words out of
I remember being in london, and speaking as clear english as I could manage - no-one could understand me. Decent place though, lots to do etc
>>52826449
Fuck, i'm a retard - east of ayrshire
>>52822358
>newfie being the same as the rest of atlantic canada
someone has never heard a Newfie
>>52824586
>indefinido
What did he mean by this?
Atlanta here. Nobody within 40 miles of Atlanta has a country/southern accent except old people.
>>52827016
>muh special snowflake dialects
>>52827095
>duhh, so which dialect do you speak, Cody: Texas or uh...the other one?
>>52827016
I think the "2030" side on pic related is more accurate nowadays.
This is based on my own experience, growing up in Portsmouth, and living in Nottingham (1 year), Ipswich (nearly 1 year), and London (3 years).
There is a midlands accent in Notts, and they use different words too (like "cob" for a bread roll... what's all that about). People in Ipswich have a very similar accent to Hampshire though, I didn't really notice a difference. And then in London, obviously you have a ton of different accents, but among people I know who *grew up* in London, I think they have a distinctive accent, influenced by Afro-Carribean slang.
I've noticed a lot of young suburban southerners have much weaker southern accents than their parents. I know that my parents came from the rural deep south and their accents are strong, but in Atlanta and its wealthy surrounding areas, it's sometimes not that prevalent. I have never said y'all but many people do.
>>52827241
>2030
>scouse still exists
Also, as someone who comes from Portsmouth, why do half of people randomly sound like retarded farmers and the other half like normal southerners? What's up with that?
>>52824065
HEY FUCK YOU MINNESOTA THE UP IS WISCONSIN CLAY.
I'd fuck you up for talking shit about Wisconsin but your Somalian friends will probably rape and kill your whole family anyway.
Your accent is shit and you sound 14.
>>52822443
Northern Virginia, like most densely populated places in the US, has a General American accent. I think the map is more referring to the rural areas.
>the current year
>not having a newfie accent
do you even trying even ?
>>52826995
speak for yourself mr transplant.
>40 miles
I grew up about 35 miles away and I have an accent. Remove yankee desu
>>52824065
Goddamn, are you putting on that accent?
I thought that thick kind of Minnesotan accent was just a myth.
>>52822192
>Does your language have dialects?
No, they're almost dead. I guess some old people in rural areas still speak it, but usually a Russian "dialect" only differs from the standard language in that it has a little bit different accent and several local words.
>>52824065
You must be 18 or older to browse 4chan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HNCkXk-Pw0
>>52827457
>UP IS WISCONSIN CLAY.
AHAHAHA
No.
There are a bunch of dialects, Zeeuws, low Saxon, Limburghish, Flemish, Brabantian, ect...
And one complete seperate language that is spoken in addition to dutch is some regions, namely Frisian.
>>52822192
There are so many different german dialects, it's actually insane. The differences are so enormous, that you could sometimes speak of different languages instead of just dialects. This basically means, that people from the north are unable to understand those from the south and vice versa when not speaking standard german (high german). There are even different dialects for each town in the region where I'm living...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_dialects
>>52822192
>>52822358
According to some people I have a New Orleans accent which still isn't nearly as thick/strong Cajun accent in the surrounding Parishes. St. Bernard and Lafourche are the ones from my experience who have the strongest Bayou accents
>>52827016
It surprised me how quite a few British/Irish accents actually sound pretty close to the standard American accent. I'm not sure which one exactly, but I've heard quite a few Brits and even more Irish who I didn't realize were Irish or British at first
>be from SoCal
>post a vocaroo
>people ask me if I am mexican
every time
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Bfo8pazdGq
>>52827241
>Jafaican
>>52826058
>it hefty pisses me off when people say that it is just wrong english
>>52827578
I wouldn't say it's general American exactly. It's subtly different but I couldn't place why.
>>52828170
People ask if you're Mexican because you speak broken English
>>52826676
Are you actually a native american?
>"ain't no"
>>52828170
Heck you really sound mexican
>>52828170
S A N D I E G O
A
N
D
I
E
G
O
>>52827873
AHAHA
>What is the Toledo war
The UP was literally a consolation prize for Michigan so they didn't cry and try to start a small civil war, Wisconsin wasn't even a state yet so they just drew a random border and gave it to them.
By that logic half of your state should belong to us as well.
>>52828323
Not really gonna argue with that. I can speak "proper" English if I consciously choose to, but most of my IRL interactions are either in the typical SoCal urban youth accent/dialect/vernacular (I don't know how to classify it), and I often am having conversations partially in Spanish. I'm probably also an autist and I've read that autists often have weird ways of talking so that may be a contributing factor, although I assume my environment is the main influence.
>>52828635
>The UP was literally a consolation prize for Michigan so they didn't cry and try to start a small civil war, Wisconsin wasn't even a state yet so they just drew a random border and gave it to them.
Agree
>By that logic half of your state should belong to us as well.
Don't agree. It's fine that MI got the UP from a territory since it was not a state yet. But after WI achieved statehood, the land they had left is it. In other words, unless you're a state, you can get fucked since we're gonna take yo' land.
>>52828170
You definitely are Mexican
>>52828170
Post feet to prove you're not Mexican.
>>52827016
Someone should make a clickable version of these maps so you can hear and compare samples
>>52828809
In the picture I posted Minnesota was within Wisconsin's territorial boundaries, I was merely demonstrating that borders can change a lot.
But come on Michigan isn't even connected to it we share like 200 miles of border ;_;
>>52828865
I'm not.
>>52829194
That would be awesome
>>52822192
Wisconsin/Minnesota don't really have any accent whatsoever.
Wisconsin and Minnesota are as close to generic and American as you can get as far as accents go.
>>52829292
You said you speak Spanish daily, what else would you be
>>52829381
I live in California, man...And I'm a poorfag who works in a store. So at a minimum I am at least answering "Cuanto cuesta esto?" here and there, or my coworkers will be talking in Spanish and I know enough that I am sometimes included
>>52829346
Did you hear her? >>52824065
>tfw can't pronounce "cot" and "caught" differently.
>>52829346
>Wisconsin/Minnesota don't really have any accent whatsoever.
>>52829346
I'm >>52824065, have you ever even been to Minnesota? Jesus.
>>52827663
I wish I was. My fathers is much worse.
>>52829533
They're talking shit about you. It's always the case when I hear some spicks talking about me in spanish
>>52829845
On west they speak some disgusting juntti dialect. In Helsinki they speak some faggot stadi dialect. I dont know what happens in lappland. On east they speak GOTY savonian dialect, literally most beautiful way to speak finnish. link related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QTXqTCcoNI
>>52829845
>mfw Americans pronounce "merry, "Mary" and "marry" identically
>>52829992
lol they're not
>be eight
>only know english
>think all the mexican kids are talking shit about me
>over time learn spanish
>turns out they were just talking about regular bullshit the whole time
To be honest I have only ever caught someone shit-talking about me in Spanish one time, it was some chick in jr. high
>>52829845
>tfw can't pronounce pen and pin or tin and ten differently
>>52830018
all Finnish dialects get me diamonds to be desu. When I was flying with Finnair from Sweden there was this qt flight attendant and her accent put me in a trance
>tfw no Finnish gf
>>52830158
wtf how do you pronounce them?
>>52830180
>tfw can't pronounce hock or hawk differently
>>52830158
Vocaroo then, lad m8
>>52830431
u wot. Do you also say talk like tok?
>>52830455
O-of course not.
>>52830158
like this ? http://vocaroo.com/i/s1EyxHM7R4KP
>>52830567
how do you say it then? I say it like tawk
>>52830639
a jorb well done lad
genuine attempt to say merry, Mary, and marry differently: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0lAXJmuAtB1
spoiler: it didnt work
>>52830158
Are you just memeing or do Americans really use the same vowel sound for these three words? Does that mean they pronounce Harry, hairy and cherry with the same vowel sound too?
>>52830853
yes. the marry merry mary merger is complete in almost all parts of the US.
>>52830853
please vocaroo
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1tgwVNUDhoQ
>>52830853
Are you messing with me? Those are all the same, right?
>>52830961
>>52830998
I would vocaroo but I don't have a mic, although you could check the pronunciation on forvo. It's interesting though, apparently it's spreading across the USA.
>Full Mary–marry–merry merger (also known, in context, as the three-way merger): This is found throughout much of the United States (particularly the American West) and in all of Canada except Montreal. This is found in about 57% of U.S. English speakers, according to a 2003 dialect survey.[1]
>No merger whatsoever (also known, in context, as the three-way contrast): A lack of this merger in North America exists primarily in the Northeastern United States, e.g. in the accents of Philadelphia, New York City, and Rhode Island. 17% of Americans have no merger.
>>52830853
>Does that mean they pronounce Harry, hairy and cherry with the same vowel sound too?
what the fug
I'm pretty sure you lads are memeing us but here
http://vocaroo.com/i/s158d6B331ae
>>52831132
oh shi-
http://forvo.com/word/merry/#en
http://forvo.com/word/mary/#en
http://forvo.com/word/marry/#en
I had to listen to the UK ones several times but they actually do say these 3 differently
>>52825851
Sarah Palin was raised in Wisconsin, which is very similar to Minnesota.
>>52824065
r u a grill?
>>52831346
Yes.
>>52831314
Was she really now? I didn't know that. But people from Wisconsin have very different accents.
>>52824065
i really like your accent and it's almost hard to believe it's real
t. >>52828170
>>52831162
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s158d6B331ae
das strange man, how did I go my entire life without realising this. I'm probably never going to stop noticing it for the rest of my life
>>52831398
You sound like a pretentious, damaged bitch
What's ya digits darl, lets bump bellies, thump thighs and get abit of horizontal refreshment going
Show us where ya piss from and then ill smash ya back out
Hope you love big dicks baby, because i like to dissapoint women i put one through and leave them unsatisfied
nah for real though hit me up and ill pump you like im pumping the neighbours cat
>>52831702
are you rapping?
>>52827957
>The language in Overijssel being Gueldrish
Triggered.
>>52832818
Correct me if I'm wrong but the only mutually unintelligible languages with standard Dutch here is Fries and French, right?
>>52832730
lets pash and after you give me a terrible gobby ill let you make me a sanga
>>52832921
Luxembourgish is more unintelligible then Frisian to most speakers. Other then that, Low Saxon and Limburgish extend very far into Germany and the dialects in the east are more similiar to German then to Dutch . Afrikaans is more similiar to Low Franconian dialects than Limburgish and Low Saxon to be quite fair. According to European law, Frisian, Limburgish and Low Saxon are formally minority languages of the Netherlands.
>>52833107
*than, half asleep
Standard Mexican Bajío Spanish accent.
Simmilar to the one used in dubs.
>>52827684
Your are basically right but not quite.
>Old Southern
That's actually Georgia+Alabama+South Carolina. North Carolina is sorta a mix of Light Southern and Appalachian, Virginia is a mixture of Northern and Appalachian.
>>52833204
I thought most Russian dialects are gone since mass education in the USSR.
>>52827987
I'm a 504-fag. Where you from lad? I've been around this state, I know my accents. When people say you have a NOLA accent, do they mean y@?
>>52822192
Ebonics and Scots are dialects, Africa has its own dialects, Jamaica as well. Im sure there are more.
>>52833222
Almost gone. You can stil notice a difference even in urban population's speech (mostly in stress and some vowel pronounciation though) and in rural areas you have some difference in vocabulary as well.
>tfw general american accent
>>52833107
To expand on this, Zeeuws, Limburgish, Dutch Low Saxon, Afrikaans, West-Flemish and Luxembourgish all have their own Wikipedias, though nearly no-one uses them (Except Afrikaans and Luxembourgish due to their legal status). There's also a West Frisian, and Standard Dutch one, obviously.
https://zea.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B2blad
https://li.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veurblaad
https://nds-nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veurblad
https://af.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuisblad
https://vls.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voorblad
https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haadside
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoofdpagina
>>52833204
Yeah, I've seen this map, it doesn't seem very accurate. Do you have a source of it? I'd like to know how did they gather the information.
>>52833358
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0fBBZo84dfN
>>52833455
Not sure, just googled it. Is that one more precise?
>>52822909
Im from Chicago and i do this
>>52833400
I don't know why, but I find Afrikaans more easily 'understandable' than Dutch even though they should be the same to me.
With Dutch, someone says something and I'll not likely get a word of it.
But when I heard Afrikaans being spoken, every few sentence or so was like "huh? Was that English?" It was interesting to hear.
>>52829346
You must be smoking something good because you're completely wrong. My ass has a general american accent. I should know.
>>52833358
I rep it. Nothing like having what is generic English now.
>>52833536
Well to me Afrikaans sounds like an American trying to speak Dutch, so you're far from the only one.
tangentially related, people in non-anglophone countries, if someone speaks your language fluently but with an english accent, how much can you tell about what english speaking country they're from? Like if someone spoke your language with a very minor accent, could you tell apart an english/american/australian accent etc?
>>52833551
>>52833358
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0eEpWnvxwMm
>>52833493
Well, the soviet map is more reliable than the one drawn by a random guy from the internet, but it's definitely outdated by now.
>>52833595
I doubt it's possible. I mean could you tell apart a Norwegian and Swede based on how they spoke English? You probably could if you paid enough attention but it would be pretty difficult
>>52833595
I stayed with a host family in Germany once and I practiced my German with them and they all noticed right away my American accent. They said it was funny sounding
>>52828170
Are you Pinay?
>>52833708
Yeah but I think American English accents and real English accents are a lot more distinct than Norwegian accents and Swedish accents, I don't know maybe it's just me.
>>52829230
>Michigan isn't even connected to it
SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE ISN'T AWARE OF THE MIGHTY MAC!
>>52833708
If you're familiar with both Norwegian and Swedish lanugages why not? Otherwise it would be close to impossible though.
>>52833725
I meant more like someone who has been living in the country and speaking just that language for years, I think if you had a very faint english accent it would be harder to tell than if you were just a student.
>>52830158
I dont. Mary = marry != merry
dawn = don
cot = caught
hock != hawk
>>52833828
Can you vocaroo your pronunciation for "dawn/don" and "cot/caught"? It seems weird to pronounce those the same.
>>52830288
>miery
>mary
>mar-ry
>>52830431
>hahk
>hauk
It's not that hard anons what back woods are you from
>>52833828
I pronounce all of those differently to each other. I really don't get how people pronounce marry like merry at all.
Yes we do, although the differences aren't that big (aside from the South Australian 'Ch-AH-nce' vs the rest of Australia's 'Chance'). It's pretty bizarre given that places like Perth, which is (from memory) the most isolated capital city in the world, have the same accent as those from Tasmania.
how do you pronounce it
>>52833957
Travel and live amongst the states and territories more. There are hundreds of differences. After awhile you can get good enough to pick which state people are from 90% of the time just through accent.
>>52833957
From experience, the biggest offenders in different accents to the base are SA and North Queensland. Melbourne also have a thing where they pronounce "el" as "al"
>>52833983
Mehlk
>>52833983
http://vocaroo.com/i/s00rBdTXURy3
>>52833983
melk desu
>>52833983
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Xx5RLFcAYt
>>52822192
We have a few accents, but mostly they've died off, to some degree due to the government programs aptly named "language hygiene" in the early 20th century. Quite a bit of accents though, the southern parts in particular got a very distinct accent.
>>52828170
I can hear your disgusting shitskin gook pinoy accent. Your pathetic attempt to make it sound civilized failed completely.
>>52834060
>We have a few dialects*
tired, sorry
>tfw can't even understand half my compatriots if they're drunk
>>52834060
>the southern parts in particular got a very distinct accent.
Yes, It's called "Danish"
:^)
>>52834060
There's a reason for that
>force Danes to assimilate in Skåne through programs
>Let shitskins and towelheads move into Skåne and take over the entire county
>"cultural assimilation is racist"
Swedes confirmed for traitors to fellow white countries
>>52833828
Merry = Mary = merry
Dawn =! don
Cot =! caught
Hock =! hawk
>>52833983
This isn't a dialect thing like "aunt" or "caught" the only actual way to pronounce it is "milk". Not only the only correct way, but people don't say anything else unless it's just one of their own personal quirks.
>>52834288
They're all the same. Eat that other dialects.
>>52834319
Do you say dawn as "dawn" or "dahn"? Same question for don.
Also same for hock and hawk.
>>52833777
Nice trips
Is that a bridge or something?
>>52834354
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0qSikwmtDL2
>>52824065
MINNEAPOLIS
>>52834315
MELK
E
L
K
>>52833957
The differences are existent, sure. However there's too many exceptions to rely upon them. Tasmania is a place where nearly the entire population uses the exact same vowel sounds. From a study I saw somewhere, nearly all the respondents from Hobart used common vowel sounds. Adelaide was similar.
>>52834011
Agreed. People from Melbourne saying "twalve" for the number twelve gives me the shits.
>>52834315
Quite a lot of people say "melk" and it does occur semi-regularly in some dialects. It's part of a vowel shift.
>>52834129
The funny thing is that, in my experience, Danes have an easier time understanding "standard" Swedish(rikssvenska) than they have with scanian.
>>52834148
Scania has been Swedish for longer than Australia have been a country. Everyone forced people to assimilate back then.
The fact of the matter is that no one really knows why scanian speak the way they do. They do peculiar things that isn't shared wither either Swedish or Danish.
It's probably for the better though that they learned how to speak somewhat comprehencibly.
>>52827684
I heard Russia diesn't really have dialects or accents because everyone was forced to go to school learning one specific variant of Russian or something like that once everyone was moved from villages to cities. It was posted here a long time ago
>>52833828
Mary = merry = marry
dawn (almost) = don
caught (almost) = cot
hock = hawk
Mary = Mairey
Merry = Merry
Marry = Marry
Caught = Court
Hawk = Hork
>>52830018
are you the guy who keeps posting that scary looking fish bread?
>>52834362
It is. The grandest of bridges. People in Yugos get knocked off of it.
>>52834960
That sounds fun but I'm talking about natural borders.
Could you imagine how great Wisconsin would look with it's mitten turned into a claw pointing straight into the great lakes? Michigan doesn't deserve the UP
>>52834362
>>52834960
And a link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mackinac_Bridge
>>52835005
>how great Wisconsin would look with it's mitten
Its what now? Wisconsin's a fucking tumor. The only mitten is Michigan.
>>52835021
Damn that's a nice bridge
>>52835040
The only tumor I see here is Detroit.
>>52828170
You sound confused. Definitely don't sound Mexican. I'm in San Diego. Maybe I'm just used to the Mexicans.
>>52834646
If you pronounce Mary, merry and marry all the same, which one does it sound like?
Do you pronounce them all as merry, all as Mary or all as marry?
>>52834453
W-what? How? It's an "e", surrounded by regular consonants. That baffles me.
Then again, a lot of people in my city pronounce oil the same as Earl, so I guess I can't talk.
>>52830180
What sound do you make in between those consonants? An 'i' sound like "Indian" or an "e" sound like English? I lived in Virginia for 2 years and never bothered to notice how people pronounced things.
>>52835510
Mare [like the horse] - ee
>>52835828
Yea so like Mary
After I posted that I tried pronouncing them with an American accent and Mary sounded correct
>>52822192
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/12/20/sunday-review/dialect-quiz-map.html
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1DxubmfPzzD
what do y'all think of my Faroese accent?
>>52829346
Are you serious? Us Wisconsinites sound more Canadian than most Canadians. I can't travel west, south, or east without every qt I talk to going "aww" when they hear me speak. Also I agree with the other Wisconsin anon. Geographically-speaking the UP is Wisconsin Clay.
>>52835912
Id buy that for a dollar!
JUST
>>52828170
Are you native?
Cause you sound native
