are scandis fairies?
green= banned in school AND home btw, blue is just school
They believe the government knows better than the parents of the child, they have cucked all their rights to the state even family matters
>Oh, so you killed our cat Bob, you insulted your mother and you're communist ?
>...
>That's okay !!!
>>52819651
I seriously doubt that you can beat your children legally on the UK and not int he balkans
>>52819743
idk the specific laws, youre probably right
>>52819703
>the right to beat your kids
why
>>52819733
Psychological punishments are more effective anyway. Because you insulted your mother, the Christmas is cancelled for you!
>>52819923
USA is one of the few western countries that do not recognise children's rights. Basically kids are considered as property in USA and you can do whatever you like to them.
>>52819923
I believe in maximizing freedom of the individual, but there is certainly a fine level between a reasonable spanking and child abuse
>>52819703
let the collective act as an equalizer to lift the stupid and hamper the smart. The children of the first will have more of a fair chance in society and the latter are most likely able to rise above the limitations put up
>>52819651
Like children know the law
>>52820062
There isn't a fine line between a spank and full on beating. There is a huge fucking difference. Spanking is literally harmless, unless your mother happens to be fucking wolverine there is nothing to worry about.
>>52820044
Where I live kids are rowdy and mischievous actling like children ought, not like docile little scandi fairies. They know when they do something wrong they can expect a small beating from mom but they can handle it because they know she loves them and they deserve it.
>>52819946
>Psychological punishments are more effective
Questionable. Us nordics are quite big hypocrites when it comes to this. For example:
Pretty much all psychologists agree that "time outs" are harmful to a child, a psychological equivalent to corporal punishment yet it is not banned.
Our laws are not based on pragmatism nor actually helping the child, they're based on feel good
>>52819651
>Spain
Residual Scandi blood is there, huh?
>>52820062
>maximizing freedom of the individual
so it should be your "individual" right to spank your child? what about the individual right of the child not to be spanked?
or my individual right to touch your butt
>>52820158
Spanking is not harmless.
The research shows that spanking is horrible for kids development.
loose discipline = shit life
if you dont beat children, they grow up to be irresponsible worthless shits who end up junkies or studying art or some shit like that
by beating I mean small physical punishment, nothing too serious and nothing that would leave permanent damage
>>52820364
>>52820224
So are time outs and other psychological punishments, yet they aren't banned.
As i said, feelgood.
>>52820364
>muh SJW research
If tomorrow they'll tell you that letting your child do whatever they want is healthy for them, will you believe that as well?
>>52820458
Actually kids who are spanked are more likely to become criminals than kids who aren't.
>>52820158
It's not always the mom spanking.
My mom's previous boyfriend used to spank me.
>>52820476
>Not understanding how research works
Wow, you're pretty stupid for a Jew.
I spank my wife's son all the time and he is fine.
>>52820502
>My mom's boyfriend
>>52820502
>getting spanked by somebody who isn't your parent
iktf
>>52819651
>are scandis fairies?
Kek I doubt a lot of people outside stockholm and gothenburg follows that law
t. My father used to beat the shit out of me
>>52820529
>Wife's son
Stop this shitty meme
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>>52819743
You obviously cant completely thrash them but smacking them is fine.
>>52820487
>>52820364
Its correlation not causation, think of all the other factors in play, and if the spanking is severe like child abuse of course there is going to be trauma
>>52820529
He is also dead. Like your wife.
>>52820567
My wife's boyfriend?
>>52819703
yep its unfortunate too cause theyre nice countries, pretty and ahve lots of history etc
though my countries going down the same path lel
>>52820578
You're an idiot.
Researchers take into account extraneous variables.
Stop skipping school.
>green countries
>>52820527
I just don't believe most of these bullshit researches. Every few months come sout a new research that tells us how to live our lives, what eat, what read, what to watch, and to think and what to feel, I'm legit sick of it. Today comes out a research that says "tomatoes are bad" and in 6 months there is another one that says it is actually the cucumbers who are bad. The should focus on things a bit more important than this kind of crap.
>>52820662
You're an idiot since I bet you didnt even check to make sure they did, you just blindly believe what is presented to you because it comes from an authority
>>52819651
It's banned here either. We have some angry lawers that chimp out everytime they see anything slightly offensive to children. They try too hard sometimes but maybe it's for better since in some other countries they perform sex change operations to kids without consent. It's a cime and barbaric. Fuck these savages to be honest.
To be honest, corporal punishment isn't really necessary in any way.
Discipline is necessary, but I don't really think there are children who absolutely cannot be dealt with without using violence. Or if it does get that far, it's only because you'd have been doing a shitty fucking job at parenting for the first years of the kid's life.
That being said, it's probably easier and simpler. Just spanking your child right now does make him regret misbehaving, and it's just easier than having to remember what games he's allowed to play or not until however long the punishment is supposed to last.
Slapping on the face is too far. Spanking, sure. It's a bit humiliating, but it's the only part of the body where you can strike kinda hard and be sure you won't do much damage. Avoid the face at all cost.
>>52820682
It's no one elses fault that you don't understand the validity of the scientific method.
>>52820752
>scientific
seriously kids who grow up without discipline tend to end up as manual laborers or something like that
you need strict discipline and instilling good habits and behaviors in the kid, rewarding it when ever it achieves results and punishing it everytime it fucks up
without this fear, it might not care and no kids know what's good for them, they still dont know anything about the world, that's why they have parents for...
>>52820458
>>52820553
I wasn't beaten even once in my life. I'm doing breddy good now, made it to the uni for free. Physical punishment? Might as well be Inquisition.
>>52820502
Very nice
>>52820752
>"""""""""""""""scientific """"""""""""""
>>52820718
>it's only because you'd have been doing a shitty fucking job at parenting for the first years of the kid's life.
When I see this argument I feel like its an ad hominem, it all boils down to nature vs nuture and we all know a child will act according to a mixture of the two.
There are certainly children with natures where using corporal punishment is effective
>be me 7-10 years old
>have super strict parents
>parents would beat me whenever i get in trouble or do anything bad
>our school had a zero tolerance policy so i got in trouble for self defense
>parents beat the shit out of me
>develop PTSD to getting in trouble
skip a few years
>In 6th grade, got a tardy for being late on accident
>have a panic attack
>in 9th grade, get in trouble for violating dress code
>panic attack
>12th grade, get suspended for some drug thing i wasn't involved in
>collapse and rushed to ER
If I wasn't a faggot kid and actually raised a weapon to my parents, I could've erased my PTSD away.
>>52820699
>you just blindly believe what is presented to you
>believe
Why do anti-science kids always say this?
Anyways
>What is peer-review
If you get to the point where you have to hit your child, you've long since failed as a parent.
>>52820476
Isn't it common knowledge already? Like since 80s or so? I heard it many times on TV.
>>52820682
>Today comes out a research that says "tomatoes are bad" and in 6 months there is another one that says it is actually the cucumbers who are bad.
Well, actually the actual research would probably say something like "Research found correlation between eating ridiculous amounts of tomatoes and slightly increased cancer risk." whereas media would blow it out of proportions with headlines like " A NEW RESEARCH FINDS THAT TOMATOES CAUSE CANCER!". It does not really mean that the research was wrong, it just means that full retards are interpreting it.
>>52820850
>Why do anti-science kids always say this?
>kid
>anti-science
Brilliant ad Hominem, 10/10
>>52820773
>>52820826
>They don't know the scientific method is used in Psychology research
Fuck, it's this thread is like teaching inner city 10th graders
>>52820718
the question is do parents who spank their fucking morveux deserve to jail or not, and which is more damaging : having a parent go to jail or getting a deserved and physically harmless punishement
>>52820874
This. Like 2 + 2.
>>52820912
>common knowledge
>I heard it many times on TV.
>This is where people get their beliefs
>>52820364
research also says humoring the mentally disabled (trannies) is good for them, and yet over half of them still kill themselves
>>52820950
you keep dodging their point
>>52820950
>Psychology
>scientific
>>52820972
You can punish parents in other way. Of course imprisonment will break the child's life forever. It depends on a case if we're not talking about complete degenerates.
>>52820845
Just wait for your retarded parents to get old and beat the shit out of them when the piss themselves
>>52820950
>psychology
>research
>>52820950
>>52820850
>some unnamed study which coming from a soft science field concerning a highly political matter has declared that i'm right, and all studies are right
you
you are a moron
>>52820990
Yes, an M.D. tells something on TV and you're like "oh, i dun believes TV :DD". Better hit my 3 y.o. daughter with a frying pan XD
Come on, don't act stupid.
>>52820850
I smell a /b/tard
>>52820943
>Ignoring the part about peer-review because you have nothing to refute it with.
>>52821025
What is their point?
>>52821006
How is research saying that transexualism is okay if it says that over half of them kill themselves?
>>52821111
Quads speak the truth
>>52820836
>a child will act according to a mixture of the two
Obviously, but what I mean is, I don't think there is any child - of normal intelligence - that can't, in one way or another, be raised to be a relatively decent and functional person.
Sure, parents don't have complete control of how their children will behave, but I don't think that a good parent will ever get to a point where the only way their child will understand the punishment is by using violence.
If your children is the kind where only violence works on them, then how the fuck have you been raising that child before getting to that point, seriously? Unless you've been completely spoiling them, or if they have some sort of undiagnosised mental issues, you probably shouldn't ever get to that point.
>>52820912
Not sure what you mean.
>>52820913
Agree, same thing that happened with WHO's report on meat. They founf some data that claims that if you eat too much meat you have a slight chance of getting cancer or something, the next day all the internet was filled with "WHO CONFIRMS, MEAT GIVES YOU CANCER!!!!!!", I saw endless amount of vegans and PETAfags jerking to it until WHO released a statement that it's not what they meant, which made all those hippie fags yelling that the meat companies bought WHO.
>>52820950
>psychology
>science
>>52821138
Isn't that a recursion?
>>52821138
/thread
>>52820224
It's not like people don't "hit" their kids anyway. Sure, spanking is probably rare, but I don't know anyone who didn't get smacked over the head by their parents when they were acting retarded as children.
>>52821030
>>52821088
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>>52821122
>i dun believes TV :DD". Better hit my 3 y.o. daughter with a frying pan
Nice straw man, look I can do it as well
>"TV is da truths machine! >:D Loog dis is a doctar on da tv :0 I bedder lisen to everyding he sayz :O"
>>52821218
lmao
>>52820343
Tää :D
(which means 'good post, bro')
>>52821218
>>52821218
DO YOU
WANT ME SHOT
>>52821245
>>52821122
Turn off your proxies you damn finns.
>>52821111
>Multiple peer reviewed studies show that spanking is bad for children.
FTFY
>MAH CHILLRENS ARE MAH PROPATHAY!!!
>AM I BEING DETAINED!?!
can not fabricate such things
>>52821182
I mean hitting children results in some trauma. Holy shit, I'm mad even hearing of it on a proofless Virgin Islans beach cafe forum meetup.
>>52821308
>still unnamed
>still soft science
>still highly political
wow i can repeat myself too !
wanna go again ?
>>52821245
Alright, I won't do that anymore. I just wanted to say I trust legit medical research.
I have children and I don't plan on hitting them. I will probably never have to, because they're raised in a very nice environment. They've got both parents, they go to excellent schools and they basically live in a bubble. I realised yesterday that they have never used a bus, which is something I should probably teach them if they have to in an emergency.
Anyway, when I was growing up we had corporal punishment in school (I went to a boarding school) and I was hit, though rarely, at home. At the time I felt very hard done by, but in hindsight it was fair. I don't think it necessarily "fixed" me or was key to my development as an adult, but it did give a good incentive not to do something wrong twice.
Hitting your kids won't turn them into murderous psychopaths, nor will it is it vital to turn them into a model citizen. It's just a punishment. If it's necessary, do it. If not, don't.
>psychology
>science
keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek
physics major here, and I am sure all the math, chemistry, engineering, cs, and other hard science majors will agree with me:
psychology and other soft "sciences" arent a fucking science, they just use such name to grab more validity and authority from actual sciences
actual sciences use scientific method, aka numbers and math, actual science IS 100% CORRECT, that's what makes it a science, actual science can be 100% replicated 100% of the time in 100% the same conditions
this is what separates a rigorous, valid, solid, 0 bullshit academically legit thing we call hard science from other things:
if your """research""" relies on statistics and probabilities, ITS NOT FUCKING RESEARCH
>mfw there is stuff with "science" in its name
>but they never learned above highschool math
>and they existed for like 50 years now as a science, yet discovered no fucking laws or principles or things or discoveries with true scientific rigor
Ask a physicist or a mathematician or any hard scientist what's 1+1. He will tell you 2.
Ask any soft "scientist" what's 1+1. He will tell you:
'Well.. ugh.. erm... you see.. its such a hard question, I mean it could be 3, but if its Saturday then it can be 5, and if you are left handed it can be 57, you see, its all very scientific, I mean, in this many cases it was 512, but in this one case it can be 51252352, while in a general case it can be up to 124124124124124 there are some certain special cases according to some theories that speculate around 128412854238582358238523858235823852385'
>psychology
>science
as much as women fucking studies
>>52821403
Do you even know what soft science means?
>Corporal punishment by parents and association behaviors and experiences: A meta-analytic and theoretical review.
>Correlates and consequences of spanking and verbal punishment for low-income White, African American, and Mexican American toddlers
>Longitudinal links between spanking and children’s externalizing behaviors in a national sample of White, Black, Hispanic, and Asian American families.
We need guns to stop arrogant children.
t. American police.
>>52821352
>is disgusted by the lack of proofs
>the only argument is "common knowledge"
That's some top-tier hypocrisy.
>>52821352
Not necessarily. My mom spanked me a lot when I was a kid even slapped me a few times, at some points I was terrified of her. But as time went by I'm actually happy she did, considering how other turned out to be.
>>52821332
>can't even touch his own child
>can't even raise his child by his native gender anymore
good one
>>52821484
Rich carbonara.
>>52821484
You realize that Psychology research uses the scientific method right?
You're a fucking idiot, we don't live in the early 1900s.
>>52821509
>>52821520
So, those Nordic countries turned to be really bad, right? Not top tier?
>psychology """"""research""""""
>>52821549
>the current year
>>52821523
>can't even touch his own child
Sure I can, I just can't do violence against them. Much like how I can touch my adult family members but can't beat 'em up.
>can't even raise his child by his native gender anymore
Nice meme, shows how buttflustered you are.
>>52821549
>>52821490
Psychology has seen a renewal of internal concerns about irreproducible results. Researchers showed that in a 2006 study that, of 141 authors of a publication from the American Psychology Association (APA) empirical articles, 103 (73%) did not respond with their data over a 6-month period.[11] In a follow up study published in 2015, it was found that 246 out of 394 contacted authors of papers in APA journals did not share their data upon request (62%).[12] In a 2012 paper, it was suggested that researchers should publish data along with their works, and a dataset was released alongside as a demonstration.[13] In 2015, Psychology became the first discipline to conduct and publish an open, registered empirical study of reproducibility called the Reproducibility Project. 270 researchers from around the world collaborated to replicate 100 empirical studies from three top Psychology journals. Fewer than half of the attempted replications were successful.[14]
>>52821520
This jew got slapped and ended up in 4chan. How much more proof we need that spanking is bad for a kid?
>>52821605
yeah, complete shitholes that deserve to be wiped from the face of the Earth. How is that even a question?
>>52821549
>appealing to the current year
>>52821625
That wasn't what I was saying, it was a reference to the fact that previously Psychology did not use the scientific method but nice meming.
>>52821605
>people who are loosing their identity, live in a fairy tale world, afraid to fght, wiling to sacrifice their own well being for the sake of others are completely fine
Yep
>>52821605
They're sparsely populated, were up until very recently homogeneous, had virtually no political issues, no large industrialised working class, no illiterate peasantry, no history of dictatorship or extreme politics and generally a very stable lifestyle. Thus, they never had the sort of environment that required strict rules or punishment at any level - childhood included.
It's the same as looking at their prison system. It might work for them, but it wouldn't work in the USA or South Africa.
I was beaten by my dad when I was a child. Thanks to him, I am the mature person that I am nowadays. Thanks dad.
>>52820364
What research?
>>52821658
>Latvia
>>52821634
Unless you have a list of which studies weren't able to be replicated it means fuck all to the ones I mentioned.
>>52821549
It's pasta or extreme autism. These >>52821509
>>52821520 guys have a point. the Serb is just a Rain Man. the most reasonable one here is >>52820718.
>>52821709
then why are you on 4chan
>>52821655
>4chan
>bad
I may ended up here but I didn't end up becoming a spoiled, rude and lazy brat like the country others
>>52821740
Latvia will be a superpower by 2030
>>52821697
>thinks that all nordics are the same as swedish leftists
in to the ovens you go
>>52821698
>had virtually no political issues, no large industrialised working class, no illiterate peasantry, no history of dictatorship or extreme politics and generally a very stable lifestyle
>british education
>>52821740
Hey, I didn't mean Funland, though. It's a good country
>>52821758
Most reasonable post is >>52820836 and this retort>>52821177
>>52821803
You've had none of those things.
Until recently all you did was fish, cut wood and lose wars to Russia.
>>52821672
It still isn't science, its mostly theories and methods that change constantly, especially with the morals of who study it
>>52821745
http://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9216383/irreproducibility-research
>>52821866
This
>>52821866
>its mostly theories and methods that change constantly, especially with the morals of who study it
According to whom? Anonymous Jew?
>>52821864
Just because you don't know about them doesn't mean they haven't happened. I thought being 110% retarded while acting knowledgeable was an american thing but I guess you guys taught them that after all.
>>52821549
NO
Science I study (applied physics, still didnt specialize but I'd like to go into computational physics) is a science. Psychology isnt.
What makes something a science? In science, you are unable to present a counter argument.
You see, we like to separate things in a "general case" (force for example, F=ma) and a "special case" (mx= -kx -miQ). You can always derive a special case from a general case....
and THERE ARE NO COUNTER ARGUMENTS! No counter examples. No counters. No exceptions. No statistics. No room for error.
Just pure academic rigor we call "science".
For example 1+1=2. No fucking counter arguments. No counter examples. Just a pure factual objective verifiable (as long as we stick to the same axioms) truth. Science.
Psychology is a cesspit of quasi science at best, full of counter examples, half theories, half studies, irregularities, exceptions, special cases tied to no general case..........
Psychology (and all other soft sciences) are NOT A FUCKING SCIENCE. Take your pretending bullshit somewhere else. You dont have HALF A FUCKING ACADEMIC RIGOR actual sciences have.
>>52821866
>It still isn't science, its mostly theories and methods
L MAO
>>52821871
That is not a list.
That is an article.
>>52821871
>vox
Not him but I recognize the name, they are incredibly leftist and I would be suspicious of anything they produce or write, they are like leftist brietbart but even worse
>>52821763
There are nice posters and it's cool to learn about other cultures, even having those retards who are like "muh brown eyes not 100% European" and so on.
>>52821803
But you aren't Nordic. I was talking more about Norway, Sweden and Denmark
>>52821933
>>52821944
Here's the full paper if you want to purchase it
The article is valid
>>52821954
>it's cool to learn about other cultures
After being here two and half years, I still havent learned a thing
>>52822044
Forgot link
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/349/6251/910.full.pdf
>>52822030
>Finland isn't nordic
The only reason the term "nordic" exists is to include Finland and Scandinavia in one term
>kike logic
>>52822030
Finland is nordic, dumbass. It's not Scandinavian
I see you beat a child, I will kick your skull in.
If you think corporal punishment is alright, you will probably understand the lesson.
>>52822118
Beating a child is different to spanking them. A slap in the bum hurts no one but it reinforces ideas to a small child.
>>52821919
Do you even understand how research is conducted?
We are not talking about "Sigmund Freud believes..."
It is entirely objective it is not theoretical. If I set up a group of randomly selected females, show them pictures of clean shaven, and bearded men and ask them to rate their attractiveness and I find that they prefered men with beards. Assuming that we have eliminated all possible extraneous variables (I.E. making sure the images are of the same man clean shaven and bearded, etc.) then it is entirely objective.
Any theories as to WHY is entirely different.
>>52822118
What if i'm fighting with a child fair and square? Like, if I give him a weapon
>>52822088
>>52822030
Quick cheat sheet:
Nordic countries:
>Denmark (and territories)
>Sweden
>Norway (and territories)
>Finland (including Åland)
>Iceland
>Faroese Islands
Scandinavia:
>Sweden
>Norway (excluding territories)
>Denmark (Excluding territories)
Fennoscandia:
>Sweden
>Norway (Excluding territories)
>Finland (including Åland)
>>52822118
Fuck off hitler.
>>52821892
According to what real science is.
>>52822088
>>52822117
Ohy mistake. But you have to agree that Finland has a different mentality than the rest of them, it is more socially conservative, or at least that's what I understood so far from Finns
>>52822245
>having no respect for uncle Adolf
No, YOU fuck off. Unintelligent amphibian submitter
>>52820845
Once I actually grabbed a knife and hid under my blanket, if my dad had come back to beat me some more, I would have stabbed him.
I had to see a psychiatrist because I was extremely violent as a kid.
Fucking idiots could have saved a lot of money if they hadn't hit me all the time.
Not to mention that the only thing I learned was behavior modification, I still feel rage all the time.
>>52822118
>slapping a child=beating him
nice one friend
>>52821897
>not knowing some bullshit that probably didn't happen in finland a hundred years ago
WHY AREN'T YOU EDUCATED ABOUT MY IRRELEVANT COUNTRY WAH
>>52822222
QUINTS CONFIRM PSYCHOLOGY IS A SCIENCE
thank you mother for slapping me as a kid.
>>52822336
>>52822118
>if he had done it again, i swear i would have stabbed him!
>if i see someone doing something, i'm sure to do something
You won't. You've never done anything in your entire life. It's why your dad beat you, he knew he could get away with it and he could still whip you now.
>>52822149
Depends, a while back we had a kid that died because he was spanked so hard, his pelvis fractured and a couple of organs ripped.
I know what you mean and that is more of a little shove than anything else.
>>52822077
I've learned that Finns are autistic mongols
>>52822222
>36.1% replication rate
>>52822375
Now you will seek slapping from other females in your life.
t: Freud
>>52821484
>>52821919
this is a linguistic problem, not a fundamental one. For example, here we sometimes call History, Sociology and whatnot "ilim" (knowledge(s)), instead of "bilim" (science) to emphasize the difference between positive sciences like Physics, Biology and other "sciences".
So don't get so hung up on this detail and try to teach yourself that words can apply to other things than you want/think
>>52822351
>makes retarded claim
>then cries when people call him out on it
At least the israeli has the guts to admit he was wrong like a real man
>>52822467
>implying that's bad
>>52822440
>A lack of researchers not following procedure means that the procedure is bad
>>52821925
It must be some higher form of banter. I retreat.
>>52820224
All forms of psychological punishment is illegal in Norway, in addition to physical ones. If you tell your kid to stay in their room, you may get convicted of child abuse and getting your children taken away from you. So not all Nordic countries are hypocrites.
There has been some drama around the Norwegian child protection services, there are stories about them destroying families over misunderstandings, and them pressuring children into admitting their parents did abuse while they didn't, so not everything is perfect. However, most of these stories come from parents, and even the most abusive parents will say that they are innocent, so we'll have to wait ten years or so and hear from the kids when they grow up until we truly know. Too bad that at that time, if the claims are true, thousands and possibly ten thousands of lives will already have been destroyed. We'll know the truth eventually, but maybe too late.
>>52822222
>>52822519
please tell me all about finnish social history, i'll make sure to revise it seriously
>>52822432
What did they spank him with, a forklift?
>>52822565
you cannot make this up
>>52822565
that's beyond cuckdom
>>52822533
Procedures they use in psychology are majorly flawed, and you get different results every time you measure.
I passed psychology 1, 2 and 3 just for the lols, it was an optional course and it was worth 3 points and I took it since its a piss easy thing.
Psychology is subjective. And there is not a single thing in it with 100% replication value.
>researchers not following a procedure
Lmao that's because "researchers" are psychologists.....
Its a quasi science. No real scientist consider it a legit thing.
>>52822565
but, if the home is yours, don't you have the right to remove the person who is not your ward? And does not wardness imply a sort of control?
>>52822599
read grigoriy petrov's book on finland
>>52822423
My life would probably have been a lot easier if I had been that shut in kid later on.
I went the path of self destruction. Being a super edgy asshole all the way.
>>52822524
Hey, I'm not judging. I'd want to get slapped by that hot mum of yours too.
>>52822491
Volkan gets it.
>>52822565
Is this even real. Just another opposite extreme.
>>52822730
>read grigoriy petrov's book on finland
Never heard of that before now, apparently it was kind of a big deal in Turkey back in the day? If you've read it, can you give a tl;dr?
>>52822637
Crutches, but according to the hospital the fractures were caused by beating the kid with his bare hands for a long time.
>>52822565
That reminds be of the time I was so scared to go home from school, I told my teacher my dad was going to hit me, so they called my dad to pick me up from school.
He was so nice I actually believed he wasn't mad.
The second the door opened I was hit on the back of the head so hard I hit the floor face first.
>>52822890
sure. the guy is a russian priest who wants to renovate/upbring his own country too. so he looks up to finland as an example. Your land, as you know, isn't too rich and never exploited other lands, so to reach prosperity Finnish people had to work hard and make a communal, systematic sacrifice. He tells this process. There were many names involved which I now can't remember, who lead this process and who organised all this etc etc.
I have to study now, but tomorrow I may post those names on /mammi/ if you want
>>52823048
I read that it was a mandatory book in military schools in Turkey, does it talk about military matters as well? If so what was the lesson?
>>52823048
don't the fins mainly rely on natural ressources like petrol tho
>>52822989
>mrs Löffelgröss I don't want to go home my dad is going to beat me
>proceeds to call dad
What a dick
>>52823127
it doesn't, our Atajew just loved the book and wanted it to be an example, so he made it mandatory. The language he uses in the book is on a dialogue level, so it is as if he speaks to you: "This is how you must be soldiers/officers/teachers: Look up to the Finns if you need inspiration, and how they made their country great" etc
>>52823158
as far as i know the biggest natural resource Finns have are forests, that's it.
was this a bait btw?
>>52823158
Nah, we have only wood and water here. Basically no worthwhile other resources.
>>52823236
At least her brain rotted away slowly. She got like alzheimer, parkinsons and a stroke at the same time.
>>52823158
We have absolutely no fuel resources here wtf
>>52823242
Okay. Well I guess during that age we were still considered mongols/eastern by the general public and not just /int/ nerds so maybe he also felt there was some kindred spirit thing going on
>>52823513
I would say it is more about the "sacrifice" of public officials Ataturk wanted to point out. Ataturk had abandoned Turanist/idealist ideas, he only used mythological themes to justify republic's nation-making.
>>52823614
Well it is true that our country has never experienced anything akin to your turks vs kurds thing for example. Finns will banter and curse each other, but if any outsider does the same or let alone attacks us we will all unite with a singular purpose (although the current generation seems to be abandoning that ideal due to globalism).
