Can anyone really defend Norway, Scandinavia, or socialism after this?
http://mobile.wnd.com/2015/12/norway-seizes-kids-over-familys-christian-indoctrination/
>your children are your property
Children are also humans
They have rights
The children will service Muslim cock now.
Allah Akbar (pbuhc)
>>52817167
Repo-ing children treats them as property too.
>>52817069
>Can anyone really defend Norway
Yes
>>52817069
>>52817481
Indoctrinating children with extremist ideology is considered abuse, and like with any abuse your children can be taken because of it. Same applies with mohammedans, which is more common than this example. So >>52817231 can fuck off etc.
Religious schools are also routinely shut down/have their funding cut for not sticking to scientific truths, again this applies equally regardless of what faith they belong to.
Then again, Burgers think hitting your kids is ah-ok as well.
>>52817069
>norway seizes kids over christian indoctrination
I bet if you replaced christian with muslim they wouldn't dare to do that
Norway's constitution defends Christianity officially. Idk what this has to do with socialism, capitalist countries also have child protection services.
they literally come on here to defend it
>>52819292
Last time this was posted, plenty of Norwegians posted that Muslims actually have had their children taken from them in similar cases all the time. Norway has some of the strictest refugee/immigrant restrictions in Europe, they're not very YES.
>>52819360
You can still be YES and take kids for this reason from muslims as well (christians are rare in this since extreme christianity is rare as fuck in the noridcs), even in Sweden, undoubltably YES, muslims have kids taken for this reason.
It bothers me that Norway has now fallen victim to the 'SWEDEN YES' ideology.
Why do those swedecucks have to ruin everything that is good in this world?
Scandinavian are quite literally drones programmed by progressive liberal propaganda, I'm an atheist and I find this appalling, I'm sue this would have never happened to a family of a non christian denomination. This is pure hatred
Shame on>>52819182 >>52817167 for even attempting to defend this senseless act
>>52819517
>I'm sue this would have never happened to a family of a non christian denomination
Yeah, you know, except that it does
>Can anyone really defend Norway, Scandinavia, or socialism after this?
If they're Westboro Baptist Church-tier, then I wouldn't be entirely opposed to it.
>Jana Holomkova of Portugal, wrote, “The Kingdom of Norway should consider to alter the name to ‘The Kingdom of Norway – Nazi.’”
Alberto Barbosa, a Muslim, thinks this went too far. Smh
>>52819599
Probably was. They only do this if the parents are teachign their kids that violence is a viable means for the cause and shit like that. Like muslim parents who support ISIS or some shit, or christian parents who are like "son, you must kill faggots to please Jesus" or something. Extremist but peaceful is ok as long as the kids are healthy and cared for, we have a small conclave of Plymouth Brethren, for example, and they're left alone, though their school gets flak sometimes because they try to get away with not teaching evolution now and then.
>>52819739
>Probably
Not bad to save kids from radical religion
But do they have the same treatment for kids in radical islam family, I wonder? I bet they do not. Or many of the muslim kids would be in custody, and a shitstorm would be made
>>52819790
What, are social services files open to anyone to read in Burgerland? We don't know exactly what happened since that shit's not public, the parents will have access to it as will their lawyer though. Stop crying, I know that kids are the parents property in the US and you think that = "freedhums", but civiized nations such as Norway know better.
>>52819739
>Plymouth Brethren
Part of my family is in the Exclusive Brethren, the hardcore fringe version of that. They're fucking feral pieces of shit.
>>52819877
The Brethren are fucking creepy, the ones here all look the same.
>>52819698
>Jana Holomkova of Portugal
Sounds very Slavic
Probably Czech or Slovak desu
>>52820534
Sure enough. She's Czech
https://cz.linkedin.com/in/janah
Right-wingers here are going crazy over juvenile justice in the Nordics
>>52819877
>>52820402
Weird thing is that none of them are locals, they all came over from Britain for some reason.
>>52819499
Sweden don't have any influence to Norway other than Ikea and snus
>>52817069
>wnd
Obese bible belt tabloid trash
Let me guess, they're Romanian. There's a lot of subhuman shits coming here thinking they can abuse their kids in various forms and then proceed to cry to their government when the kids are taken into protection. Surprise, we have better child protective services than some second world murder nations.
>>52821349
Probably, or some nutty cult. I was homeschooled a year in the US and got to meet a few extremists (they always homeschool kids). A black supremacist family, jewish supremacists, two families of christian fundies. It's no wonder they end up with child care intervention all the time.
OP is some evangelical christian
Why do some people falsly belive that Norway is a anarchy place? There have been lots of incidents here over the years done by all kinds of nationalities. Enough is enough
>>52821927
>anarchy
Why would anyone even believe that? It seems everyone labels us socialist.
>>52819599
>westboro baptist church
>bad
They do literally nothing wrong, only protest things they disagree with.
Why people have such a hate boner for a harmless sect is beyond me
>>52821927
>Lithuanian stepfather hangs 8 year old daughter
>A british muslim stepfather drowning a 1 year old sri lankan girl
>Somalian mother starves her 10 year old son to death
and the list goes on
>>52822211
They literally do plenty of wrong things, like harassing grieving people at funerals, or baiting people into lawsuits.
>>52821744
>protesting the state determining your family's "thought legality" makes OP an evangelical
t. Statist
>>52822211
If your family member died fighting for your country, would you appreciate religious fundamentalists protesting the funeral saying they deserved it and shit? Probably not.
>>52822362
>>52822721
Free speech doesn't end where your feelings begin.
>>52821927
Norway is a very anarchic place
t. a norwegian
>>52823024
We're not talking about free speech, we're talking about what's socially unacceptable.
>>52823024
And nobody advocated taking away WBC's free speech. We just called them fundamentalist assholes. I know it's hard for you to comprehend, but you can disagree with people without trying to censor them.
>>52823533
>>52823583
>"The government should have absolutely no part in censoring people, but we should still stop them by causing them to lose their job if they say anything that deviates from the norm."
What makes you think that just because the government isn't doing it, it isn't censorship?
>>52823514
If it is, then why do so many east european lads are complaining on /int/ about norwegian cps?
>>52823680
Why should private institutions be forced to employ people that they don't like and/or are ruining their image?
>>52823680
Are you just arguing for the sake of it? Because nobody mentioned jobs. Nobody even mentioned doing anything against them.
>>52823680
stfu, you dumb nutter
why do you think they should be able to disrespect soldiers' funerals and we shouldn't be able to excersise our free speech in condemning them?
>>52817069
Jesus fuck the writing in that article is atrocious.
>>52822555
If you teach your kids to be violent towards other people you are infringing upon the rights of the people you are teaching your kids to hurt.
Your right to physically hurt or premeditate violence on anyone isn't in country's constitution.
>>52823758
right-wingers complain they cannot beat their children and have to respect laws of a country in which they live
they hate it when the cps work the way they should
![familia1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AU2geCr.jpg "familia1[1].jpg")
need to go back to the good ol days
>>52824159
Chances are, you'd be a slave in the "good ol' days"
>>52823970
Ah it's a christian site.
>For 18 years, WND has been the world’s best-kept secret in Christian content and marketing. But the word is getting out.
I'm sure their reporting of the situation is perfectly impartial.
>>52817069
Norway is a christian nation who also allows other religious practices/faiths.
However, no adult or institution are allowed to indoctrinate kids into extremists no matter what religion or way of life.
You're parents who teach your kids to be nazis? No more kids for you.
You like to teach your kids the wonders of suicide bombing in the name of your god?
No more kids for you.
You like to beat your kids?
No more kids for you
You're a drug addict?
No more kids for you
You can't even afford a roof over your head, and even food on the table?
No more kids for you
The early ages for a kid is the most important moment which determines how they handle the adult world later in life, letting people fuck up their kids creates a less safe society for all of us.
If all those ghetto kids had been taken care of you would've had less gang related activity, since it's almost exclusively those at the bottom of the economic ladder with no education who adopt the activity of drive-by's, etc...
>a Romanian-Norwegian couple
Yeah, they're probably loonies.
>>52823024
Taking away their kids isn't censoring though.
They're still able to say and mean exactly what they want, but those kids will not be involved in it.
So what did they actually do?
>>52824088
You can premeditate, but not act. That's literally trying to police someone's thoughts.
East european bad parents need to stop this bullshit, they think norwegian cps are there to ruin their life just because they are east europeans. It also happens to Americans who are bad parents. This happend in the holy bible belt of Norway. 0:58, police are there taking away the american child https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1UucuCQsRE
>>52824602
The parents should count themselves lucky for not being taken to court under the Terror law.
Indoctrinating kids into extremism could be counted as recruitment to terrorism.
>>52824918
this desu
>>52819499
>>52819517
>I have decided that this is exactly the way it happened, and am outraged. Why do liberal drones have to ruin everything?
I'm sick of people just making up bullshit facts like "they have been influenced by Sweden, known for confiscating christians back in the viking age!"
You have no idea how extreme this case was and just because the current version of the story goes against your ideology, you will not stand for it.
Retarded fucking nutjobs should not be raising children, because they have a very high chance of turning into retarded fucking nutjobs.
Good on you, brethren in the West.
>>52824767
She's got a weird accent in English, sounds like she can't decide whether she's from Belfast or Boston. Has she got a strange Norwegian accent?
>>52825173
Sounds like she have some of the norwegian dialect which they speak in that bible belt. It's a small place but with lots of americans who living there
>>52817069
I can't.
The CPS isn't doing enough.
Too many kids have starved to death, too many kids have been beaten to death, too many have been abused as kids and continued the tradition with their own kids.
They're simply to little that's being done, and foreigners be damned if they live here or not.
Abuse your kid inside our kingdom and we will take your kid away from you, because it's clear we simply know what's best.
Americans may represent freedom, but we represent moral itself and what is right.
The moral has always favored the Norwegians and always will be.
>>52824767
This bitch deserves to have her kid taken away for recording with the phone vertically.
>>52825457
"false allegations" are also the standard aswer which east europeans give, so she follows the same pattern as them.
>>52825706
What do the papers say at the end? The ones with the allegations on them.
>>52826106
Just that the child probably feels insecure at the moment. She also says that the child is given medicine to calm him down. The irony in all of this is that it's american medicine. All medicine in Norway are american made, so she should calm down a littlebit
>>52826428
>All medicine in Norway are american made
Really? That seems odd, I wouldn't think that even in America, it's all American made.
>>52827141
american owned companies
>>52817069
Would you let this guy have a child?
>>52824383
This.
>>52817167
Isn't seizing them also treating them as property.
>>52827780
They're not being kept in cages or storage containers bruh
>>52824918
Where are the proofs about this "extremism" this family was allegedly supporting?
>>52827780
They go to school and do activities together with children their own age.
>>52827962
*american reporting in after watching a youtube film about an american*
LONG LIVE THE NORDIC RESISTANCE.
>>52828059
freedom my friend, frreedom
>>52827962
They can't tell us yet due to laws protecting the childrens right to privacy. If it ever comes out it will be at the discretion of the Police, or trough freedom of information once the children turn 18.
Though I can tell you, they are only allowed to take away children in cases with severe negligence and/or abuse. And only if there is proper evidence.
>religious indoctrination isn't child abuse
Murica
>>52817069
Socialism is fine as long as the society is homogeneous
>>52828391
This
Went on a trip to the religious south and had to explain to people how atheism doesn't mean that I worship the devil. (People would ask if Norway was a religious country and such)
If you seriously think they were taken away solely for being Christian, then you're incredibly retarded, especially considering how Christian of a country we still are. Naturally these """parents""" are gonna make up some bullshit sobstory to the media for the purpose of gaining mad sympathy points. The child services just do their job, and literally never do they take kids away purely based on religious beliefs. If you feel compelled to hate on Scandinavia, then at least find some more believable bullshit than this to support your case with.
>>52828416
Are there any homogeneous countries at all in the whole world!?!
>>52828118
I hope you're right, lad, but this just proves that literally everyone is projecting their own opinions on this case. I found out about this via my Christian German friends who won't stop posting about this on FB but the way she presents it, the whole thing is an attack against Christian people based on faith.
>>52827998
Sans their family, which is a big deal to people who don't have intense socialist convictions and who don't consider people to be identical numbers in a system. Provable abuse obviously changes the system.
>>52828839
I know plenty who've had an Christian upbringing without being "persecuted", even went to a Christian school for 6 years. No problem, and still atheist.
It's just that a lot of people take it too far in their area (case we're discussing). Lets just say it our bible belt and those who were last in easing alcohol restrictions and those who fought the hardest against cable TV and the internet. There were even crazy "colonies" of cult like followers there in the 70s and 80s.
I'll give you an example to put this into perspective. There is an island where nearly everyone reject vaccines just outside of Oslo, and even that isn't enough to let Barnevernet take their children away/force vax them.
(They are risking their children contracting dangerous childhood illnesses, many [inc me] think they should be forced to vaccinate, or at least the MMR vaccine)
>>52828839
>I found out about this via my Christian German friends
Maybe it was those germans who kidnapped their children in Bergen city.
Bergen city is not the place to live for abusive parents right now,not after the scandal there which a lituanian stepdad killed his 8 year old daughter. Imagine if the Bergen cps had done their job and taken that poor 8 year old girl away from the home before it went so far.
>>52829460
Ang BTW the germans was chased all the way to Denmark before they were caught. Germans ended in prison and the children went back to safty
Viking stealing christian children again?
>>52817069
>be norwegian
>get arrested because your a christian
cant make this shit up.
seriously tho , only islamic and jewish doctrines should be considered radical.
>>52830787
The reason you don't consider Christianity to be as bad as Islam and Judaism is because Christians deal with their radicals. Giving Christians a free pass to be more radical because of that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
>>52830937
christian doctrine teaches people to be a good goy and shit, like jesus does.
>>52824450
How is
>do as we say or we'll take your children off of you despite them being completely healthy with no signs of abuse and you not actually breaking any laws
ok?
The fact you even try to defend something as reprehensible as this is disgusting
>>52831473
>No signs of abuse
How do you know?
I trust more in our CPS than some stupid foreigner who thinks they're above the law, because child abuse is allowed in their shit tier country.
>>52819182
>sweden
>>52831555
The adults weren't charged for child abuse, the government seized their children and gave them to foster families because someone in the community accused them of being radical Christians who were indoctrinating their children
Please tell me how this is okay without tipping a fedora and calling christians evil or stupid
>>52824589
this
and nobody responds
>>52831718
We don't know the details yet Kiwi.
Take a look at >>52828118 and >>52829335
You never really know your neighbours m8.
>>52824589
>>52831825
Take a look at >>52828118
We don't know for sure, but it was probably some nasty shit, look to >>52829335
We have religious extremism as well you know, they just terrorise children instead of planting bombs.
>>52831718
>Please tell me how this is okay without tipping a fedora and calling christians evil or stupid
Because this isn't done exclusively to christians but to all parents of all religion or other beliefs.
There's plenty of muslim parents who gets their kids taken away.
Do you honestly think that it was only one person who tipped them off to the CPS?
They've probably gotten several tips from people in the neighborhood, like it always is in cases like this.
>>52831825
Hard to say from an biased article like the one in the OP, and CPS not giving out public reports since children under 18 have a right of privacy and not being covered in media.
>>52831858
The Norwegian government is keeping mum on this since they've fucked up and don't want to admit it
It's nice to stand up for your government and all but you have to remember they're their to represent the people not control them
>>52831975
>Government covers it up
They don't give a shit about this, not a care in the world. It's a "non-case" as we like to call it. Regjeringen and Stortinget have better things to tend to.
I advice you to read >>52831937
norways freedom of religion goes pretty far, there are some nutty christians here that get to practice their religion in peace
in my city there are even christians who speak in tongues but we don't interfere with their community we let them practice religion how they want.
so christian indoctrination is by my understanding not illegal, because people do that all the time here
also, I know for a fact that in Norways bible belt there are things like incest and abuse going on, because I live very close to it
I bet these parents are not dindu nuffin christians whos only mistake is to love Jesus
they must have done something to those children that made someone else react
>>52817069
>tfw europe will collapse in your lifetime
CANNOT
>>52832207
>freedom of religion
>government taking children off their parents since local officials disagree with their religious beliefs
Pick one you commie bastard
>>52832403
Do you just spout shit for the sake of it?
>>52831718
>The adults weren't charged for child abuse
yes they were, it's just that OP and his source purposefully choose to only focus on the religious """"""persecution"""""""
barnevernet is claiming that there was abuse
>>52832419
I'm not the childless autist snow nigger saying it's okay for the government to remove children from their parents without warning
>>52832403
meh, forget this dumbass discussion
you guys have no idea how norwegian society is and when people who actually live in Norway try to explain how things work over here you choose to flat out ignore everything we say
it's literally "let me tell you about your country: the thread"
I just seriously hope you're a consistent troll and not being serious
for your own sake
>>52831718
Barnevernet never takes the parents kid away unless they're charged for child abuse, or deemed unfit taking care of a child.
Examples could be if they're homeless, the place they live in is too small for a family and they can't afford for a bigger place, too poor to afford sufficient food, suffer from some kind of disease that hinders them in taking care of a child, and if they suffer from some kind of addiction like drugs or gambling which potentially stands in their way of taking care of a child.
>>52832513
>>52832403
Read:
>>52832207
>>52832099
>>52831937
>>52828118
>>52829335
Dumb Maori octanesniffer
>>52832720
Another example is being too christian and putting awfully harmful ideas into their heads like jesus loves you when instead they should be teaching their kids to love the norwegian government and to defend its actions at every opportunity you can on anonymous message boards
>>52832513
>to remove children from their parents without warning
So the parents should get a chance of smuggling their kids out of the country and outside of our protection?
>>52832799
Why do you assume the government and god are in conflict? https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2013:1-2&version=ESV
>>52832799
Oh shut up untermensch
Go sniff some more gasoline
>>52819739
Point me to an article about a muslim kid getting taken into custody for radicalism in Sweden then.
I mean you had undercover filmers in mosques recording all kinds of mongering yet nothing was done.
>>52832799
A government in a christian nation supported by our king, who's under God and his righteous will.
>>52832862
Norwegian CPS is the will of God and his intention of protecting all his children from those who rejects or misinterprets his will.
You will not speak against our Holy Father any longer.
>>52832942
Doesn't happen is Sweden, they're too far gone. We need to build a wall around their southern half.
all the motherfuckers who blindly believe OPs bullshit tale better be trolling or else you're some dumbass motherfuckers goddamn foreigners don't know shit about dick
gypsy fucking shit is spinning his tale in the media because he will say literally anything to get his children back and you swallow his lies whole and why is slav media so retarded fucking nuke the slavs right now
/int/ prides itself on being critical against the mainstream politics such as immigration and religion etc. but when it comes to news and the sources you get your news from there is not a critical thought in sight it should ring some motherfucking bells when only obscure right wing christians are getting their panties in a twist over this and you can see their goddamn rhetoric is laughable holy shit you stupid ass foreigners just stop being ignorant for a goddamn second plz
>>52817069
Reminder that the family was Pentecostals.
They do really shady shit to indoctrinate the children.
https://youtu.be/LACyLTsH4ac
>>52833116
I was probably the only foreigner defending this, so can you pls stahp yapping about slavs
>>52833203
>protestants
>>52833203
God I remember watching Jesus camp for the first time, I think I actually cried tears of rage.
>>52833252
this case is big deals in eastern europe
>>52833203
Oh, so that's it. Now the muddy water became somewhat more clear.
>>52832799
Actually yes, being too much Christian can do harm a kid, especially ideas of turning the other cheek and carrying one's own cross combined together are pretty much dangerous. Been there, done that, never looked back. Stupid kiwi.
>>52833252
That's why I avoid to talk with germanics, they feel somehow superior to us.
>>52832816
Why would be Norway's safety in jeopardy just because of some religious nutjobs? They don't go an hero while bombing themselves. We have such thing here too.
>>52833555
>somehow
>>52817069
Good.
The Abrahamic religions are a plague, thank you liberals for helping Pagans by an accident, lmao.
>>52833555
> they feel somehow superior to us.
At least we have reading comprehension.
I wasn't talking about Norway's safety, but the children's safety.
>>52833555
I suppose as long as you're Norwegian citizen you have to play fair and according to the rules. I suppose if the parents in question turned down their citizenship first, they could leave the state and nobody would persecute them. I somehow doubt they were that smart, cause frankly, smart people don't bow before rules, but bend them.
Then again, you must remember that child is preciousss in that part of the world, perhaps because we live in the Aeon of Horus, as Aleister Crowley announced some century ago. So we have to save the child even if we'd have to destroy it. Or something like that. It's an irrational thing; don't expect them to explain it to you.
>>52833816
Being so over-caring with half Norwegian children. They are half Romanian as far as I read there, and this ain't abuse. In eastern, Slavic countries such as ours, there are families with 6-7 children living in some kind of huts and both parents are drunkards who beat children. And hardly the authorities are able to take them. Don't tell me that some nutjob propaganda is more harmful than what I have said.
>>5283405
>Aleister Crowley
Oh, so that guy is a model for you? Are you 13? I didn't even want to explain to me, you hardcore emo guy.
>>52834493
Certainly not for me, but somehow I think he's much influential THERE. :)))
>>52834493
Good thing all that shit doesn't fly in a developed country like ours, then. Should we just turn the cheek to abuse just because other places have it worse? And the kids aren't ethnically Norwegians, but as Norwegian citizens, they are under our states custody.
>>52834493
>Waaaaah! This isn't abuse in my home country!!!
Your standards are below ours, get with the program or keep out of our fjords.
Do the rest of you see the shit we have to put up with!?
>>52834051
>I suppose as long as you're Norwegian citizen you have to play fair and according to the rules
It's harsher than that.
Even as a tourist you can be separated from your kid in Norway, which is why so many eastern european countries are pissed at us, because their citizens thought they could beat up kids on vacation with no repercussion.
I agree with what they're doing.
Wish we did it here.
>>52835164
>beat up kids on vacation
That's cruel enough for me. Yes, a spanking is, in extreme cases, needed, but not on his birthday, on Christmas, on vacation, on Easter and so on. The children must have joyful memories about that, and shouldn't be beaten anyway beside extreme cases (if he has beaten another child at school, if he has thrown with rocks after a dog or a cat). Sometimes, the only cure for violence is violence itself, sadly; for animal abuse as well, if your kid throws with rocks after an animal be sure he is going to turn into a goddamn fiend - that must be cured (and by beating I surely mean spanking without letting bruises and without swearing him).
>>52835058
Physical abuse is considered abuse, if one of your parents is a banter animal you may grow into a banter animal as well, but that doesn't cause harm nor jeopardize the society. If your parents instills sick religious values into you, that's not harmful either as long as the religion doesn't promote blatant aggression to the so-called ”heathens”.
>>52835309
Hello, fedora.
>>52834605
Indeed, he's so influential that no one older than 14 talks about him. You haven't grown up yet.
>>52834690
I guess your parents are that kind of sissies that they even don't buy children specific video games for having age restriction.
>>52835349
>I guess your parents are that kind of sissies that they even don't buy children specific video games for having age restriction.
Wrong on so many accounts. Just the other day it was a thing in the news that parents literally don't give two shits about the age ratings on video games, and my upbringing wasn't any different. Keep up the projecting, though. :^)
>>52817069
lol fucking gipsys
>>52835472
It was just an example, I meant that the parent should raise his kid teaching him his own lessons, spending time with him, be jolly, not a robot.
If you search ”parenting” on Google, at least in my region, the first result is ”parenting lessons”. If you've searched that unironically that means you are unworthy of having children. It's a natural thing for mother having the abilities to raise the children; and if it's a boy and the father does lack neither IQ nor memory skills he might let his child have things that he dreamed of in his childhood.
>>52835533
The Romanian is whiter than you, I guess, Abdul.
>>52819182
>Indoctrinating children with extremist ideology is considered abuse
I don't understand. Is the Swedish school system considered abuse?
>>52832207
>no submissive christian norwegian wife
>>52835655
>>52832513
>snow nigger
I have to remind you that, while in my town there are -6C, in Bergen there are 12C and in Tromso 0C.
This meme has to end, Norway is a warm country like Ireland and UK.
>>52833203
What the fug, religion is so weird.
>>52817069
>Norway, Scandinavia
>socialism
Read a book
>>52835655
>Abdul
Relax, mate. I doubt they are kids and I can assure you that I am not You literally beat yourself now and not us.
god i want to bomb that faggot country
>>52835809
its 9*c in bergen currently
for the last 2-3 days there was snow and close to -5*c
but around 8pm + yesterday it started raining
>>52835349
>torture children psychologically with tales of hell
>not abuse
I remember reading a story of a polish girl who killed herself because her dad had died and she wanted to meet up with him on heaven.
>>52835809
This year has literally been confirmed to be one of the warmest Decembers in our country's history, coupled with the fact that our weather is typically very inconsistent. Still, when it's cold, you can bet your ass it's way worse than your slav shithole. Also, the coast =/= all of Norway. Here's the report from a couple of days ago, for your leisure.
>>52836804
Allah kept the weather warm to allow the Ummah to penetrate Europe.
>>52836804
>tfw colder than in Finnmark
You have some cold in Lillehammer, but still the most inhabited cities lie in the coast area (Trondheim, Bergen, Narvik, Tromso).
Anyway, Norway has the warmest weather among its neighbors.
>>52836961
How the fuck do you know so many Norwegian cities and about it's climate?
>>52836961
>tfw colder than in Finnmark
Keep dreaming, and you haven't even seen the worst of it.
Also, Oslo is expecting -10 next week, and Trondheim -8. Even my southern coastal town is getting -8. Besides, calling us snowniggers isn't wrong, because constant temperatures around freezing will still produce snow much to everyone's knowledge.
>>52836981
Autism.
>>52837116
Here we're expecting -13. Yes, I know there gets snowy everytime it drops under 0 because you have lots of precipitations, we're more of a dry country, with 40 degrees in July and -15 in January, but snow only produces when the temperature is between -5 and 0.
>>52836981
I don't know SO many, but some of them. I have an European map in my room which I see since I was 11. And when I get bored I look on it without any purpose, and it has happened to know lots of European cities, especially Scandinavian and Balkanic, from my area. And climate - well, I know all the world's climates and European micro-climates.
>>52824383
Except this translates into
Barnevernet doesn't like you?
No more kids for you
>>52837326
Snow can come with +1 too, but that's besides the point. Romania isn't a coastal country getting warm currents from Mexico and the US like we are. Even with that in mind, temperatures will go far beyond freezing in even Bergen and Stavanger every winter. Our inlands is especially cold, particularly in the south and far north. Here's a town in the south for ya, for example. Sure, there are colder countries, but literally nothing in western Europe can compare, aside from northern Sweden and northern Finland. Saying we're as warm as the UK is incredibly wrong, and you're literally basing that off a single thin strip of land in the west.
>>52817069
I see nothing wrong with that desu. Religion is cancer. Tho they should be doing it to people of all religions, not just christians
>>52837638
*tips fedora*
It's not even about religion.
Doesn't matter if you're a mudslime, a christcuck, a buddhist, atheist, shinto, pagan, sikh, whatever the fuck. Just don't treat your kids like shit here.
>>52837754
>don't treat your kids like shit
Who decides what is "treating kids like shit"? Ah, it's Barnevernet.
>>52837969
Yeah? It's their fucking job. Every civilized country has a responsible child protection service, and shit has to be pretty bad for them to go as far as taking your kids. Bad by our standards is bad by most of Western Europe's standards.
>>52833555
B-but Romanians aren't Slavs
>>52838116
We, Moldovans, are eastern Slavic and Muntenians are southern Slavic. You can judge by everything besides language.
>>52838077
>shit has to be pretty bad for them to go as far as taking your kids
Who makes sure Barnevernet doesn't abuse its power? What sort of oversight is there? Also, is the children taking permanent? Because I've been reading a lot of "The kids have gotten used to the foster family, they don't want to see their real parents" when it comes to Barnevernet.
>>52837583
That is beyond any limit. In Svalbard is 4 degrees and it's raining while here is -5 degrees.
>>52817069
Honestly, I wish our child protection authorities were more vigilant with our extreme Christians.
The amount of pedophilia going on inside the Laestadian community is Catholic church tier.
Those fuckers shouldn't be allowed to reproduce.
>>52838505
It's warm all over the west Nordics right now, but the average temperature for Svalbard this past month has been -6,5 degrees, coldest day measured at -19. This also keeping in mind that Svalbard is infamous for its temperate climate, and this having been one of the warmer Decembers for us. Temperature is inconsistent for everyone. Some days will naturally be warmer in one area than another, even for frozen hellholes in Siberia.
>>52838632
Also our mudslimes (together with the Jews) are throwing hissy fits about how Finns are persecuting them because Finnish law treats non-medical circumcision as severe child abuse.
Which is why the fuckers go outside the country to mutilate their children or do it in secret with varying degrees of "success".
Unfortunately they are "winning" as the highest level court said in 2008 that non-medical circumcision is in "some cases" legal even though the law requires the police to investigate every case as severe child abuse.
>>52838796
Yes, it doesn't dazzle me that it's colder there, but still, there shouldn't be temperatures over 0 in these winter months (late Dec, Jan, Feb and early Mar). Indeed it's too warm.
>>52838359
>Who makes sure Barnevernet doesn't abuse its power?
The state, or rather, a split between 3 of their departments. Prosecution is harsh if they do abuse their power, too. Luckily we actually put trust in our services, and luckily corruption in Norway is pretty much nil.
>is the children taking permanent?
If by "permanent", you mean until they're 18, then it can be. You can also be given another chance. You can talk them out of it, and you can even see an attorney if you believe you've been falsely accused, but rarely does that work out, because there is always a solid case for it to begin with from the barnevernets side.
>Because I've been reading a lot of "The kids have gotten used to the foster family, they don't want to see their real parents"
No you haven't. That's a quote from this case, and this case only. The most common complaint to barnevernet is actually that they should be even harsher when doing their job.
>>52839119
>Prosecution is harsh if they do abuse their power, too. Luckily we actually put trust in our services, and luckily corruption in Norway is pretty much nil.
So the penalties are harsh but everyone trusts one another except them bloody foreigners who can't take care of their kids so nobody gets prosecuted.
>No you haven't. That's a quote from this case, and this case only. The most common complaint to barnevernet is actually that they should be even harsher when doing their job.
Yes, I have. There is a case where Barnevernet has taken kids from Czech parents and the quote is the same. I'm betting the foster parents are programming those kids to say that.
Which makes me wonder, do YOU work for Barnevernet? Seems like only an employee would defend a government agency so staunchly.
>>52839609
>So the penalties are harsh but everyone trusts one another except them bloody foreigners who can't take care of their kids so nobody gets prosecuted.
I really can't understand what you're getting at here.
>Yes, I have
Prove it
>do YOU work for Barnevernet?
Did YOU have your child taken from you? We can both play this game. And the answer is no. I just don't like people spreading false shit about my country.
>>52839798
http://www.lidovky.cz/proc-vam-nevratime-syny-uz-si-u-pestounu-zvykli-vzkazal-norsky-urad-michalakove-g1a-/zpravy-domov.aspx?c=A151012_154727_ln_domov_hm
Children get taken, they are raised in foster families, contact with real parents is limited and then Barnvernet argues that they won't give the kids back since they have already gotten used to the new family and they don't want to see their original family. Which is kind of self-explanatory when they haven't had any contact with them for who knows how long.
Norwegians literally kidnap foreign children from schools and send them to undisclosed foster homes (of fat old lesbians) under made up pretexts with no warning, trial, or ability to contact them. All of that so their lazy inbred natives don't have to go through the trouble of pregnancy and don't inbreed even more.
You know the reasons they give are bullshit when the kids themselves contact a detective to organize their escape.
http://www.thelocal.no/20111109/action-hero-rescues-kid-from-foster-care
>>52838359
>>52839609
barnevernet has a duty of confidentiality, so when eastern europeans are saying hurr durr they took my children for no reason, barnevernet can't say anything against them, even though they probably have been raping and abusing their children on regular basis.
i've worked temporarily at a school, and my impression is that they are too soft. i overheard a polish girl like 12 years old saying that she wouldn't put on mascara because then her father would hit her again. when i told the teacher in charge of it, she said that barnevernet already had been involved, and they wouldn't do anything.
another boy, like 10, was sent home because he literally pissed all over himself, next day he showed up with the same pants with dried piss marks all over it. same case, barnevernet had already been tipped off, didn't do anything.
many eastern european girls were bullied or socially isolated because their parents dressed them up like a 90's bad taste party and got them cheap windows phones unable to run snapchat. i met one of those girls hiding outside school, waiting to enter until just before the class started, because she was too embarrassed over her clothes. unleashing barnevernet on these parents would be pointless, even though they objectively deserved it.
also, you can't just tip barnevernet off anonymously, there's lot of paperwork and you have to talk to the police.
tl:dr; if barnevernet takes your kids, you do really deserve it
>>52840126
>barnevernet can't say anything against them
How convenient. "We would like to tell you what horrible things those awful parents did to these children but unfortunately there is this law so we can't say shit, you'll just have to trust us it's really, really bad"
>many eastern european girls were bullied or socially isolated because their parents dressed them up like a 90's bad taste party and got them cheap windows phones unable to run snapchat. i met one of those girls hiding outside school, waiting to enter until just before the class started, because she was too embarrassed over her clothes. unleashing barnevernet on these parents would be pointless, even though they objectively deserved it.
Because not having the latest phone is grounds for social services...
>>52840116
There are an estimated 200 000 poles who are living in Norway. About 1 procent are crocks and bandits. Why do you speak for the 1 procent?
>>52817069
Stealing children is totally normal in Norway
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3038084/Norway-taking-foreign-children-away-parents-highest-rates-inbreeding-world-Country-forced-deny-claims-Lithuanian-child-taken-care.html
>https://www.rt.com/news/263625-norway-children-welfare-protest/
>http://baltic-review.com/scandinavia/norway-has-a-habit-of-stealing-foreign-children/
Fucking Norshits
>>52824159
>back to the good old days of the pre medieval mediterranean family structure
>in Norway
I'm not calling Americans stupid, but you're acting the stereotype.
>>52840831
Some people just get upset because they think Norway still lives in viking anarchy times, then they find out that there are actually laws here.
>>52840501
>how convenient for the authorities
Actually, it's more convenient for the parents. They are in full control of what information the press and the public gets.
The child protective service really don't have to convince an autistic Czech poster on a French Polynesian image board.
>>52817069
>http://mobile.wnd.com/2015/12/norway-seizes-kids-over-familys-christian-indoctrination/
that sounds like a good idea, they're eliminating our society's problems by attacking the roots. We should do the same thing to fundamentalist muslims too tbqh.
I'm perfectly fine with this
>b-but our christian heritage
>>52840501
you obviously don't know how 12 year old girls work. they might look cute and innocent, but no-one can be as cruel and they are cruel in such a smart way that it's impossible to take them for it.
this makes it impossible to beat them at their game, you just have to play by their rules. not giving your daughter the right clothes is child abuse, because the psychological pain you're causing if you're making it impossible for her to fit in is extreme.
>>52841444
>you just have to play by their rules
>adults have to play by the rules set up by 12 year olds
>not giving your daughter the right clothes is child abuse
At this point I'm not sure whether you're seriously defending your warped laws or you're trolling by deliberately making your country look even worse.
Why do some people get upset because there are laws in Norway? What do you actually think about us? That we are uncivilized bastards?
>>52824383
>However, no adult or institution are allowed to indoctrinate kids into extremists no matter what religion or way of life.
Who decides what "extremists" are? And what does the state have to do with what parents teach their own children?
What you are arguing for is literally thought crime. You can't teach children to think a certain way because that's wrong, even if they are your own children. Their thought must conform with the mainstream propaganda of our schools, such as multiculturalism and moral relativism.
>B-but you're a hypocrite muh Muslims
I'm not, because even for Muslims I will argue that the state has nothing to do with how children are raised. Instead, we must throw into the public sphere that Islam and Western sensibilities cannot be harmonized. Because that's how a democracy works: public debate, not ensuring everyone learns the same things and accepts them unthinkingly because the state demands it.
>>52843186
There are cps in all western countries, Even in the USA. Just del with it
>>52841726
you have probably never been a twelve year old Norwegian girl. I have, so I know what I'm talking about
>>52845029
Did you somehow convince yourself you have monopoly on having been a kid?
>>52817167
>Kids are the property of the state
Try again.
>>52843525
Our child services literally cannot take your kids away based on teaching them certain things. Maybe the fundamental difference between our countries is your refusal to acknowledge the right of freedom of thought.
Why are Lithuanians such shitty parents?
>>52817069
>One, Jana Holomkova of Portugal, wrote, “The Kingdom of Norway should consider to alter the name to ‘The Kingdom of Norway – Nazi.’”
>>52848715
It's the same thing here, so why all the fuzz?
American cps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3v6mFIRVCI
>>52841184
Yes, how convenient for the parents. They get to have their kids abducted but hey, they can tell the press what they want. Meanwhile, Barnevernet doesn't have reveal shit about how it actually works.
>>52841444
>not giving your daughter the right clothes is child abuse
This is exactly that sort of retarded mentality that leads to kids spoiled beyond belief. When I was a kid, all I had was shitty city provided Wi-fi. Couldn't play online, couldn't torrent, couldn't shitpost on 4chan. Did it suck and had me not able to participate in many areas? Yes. Was it child abuse and grounds for social services? Fuck no.
>I have, so I know what I'm talking about
Ah, that explains everything
>>52849254
she is kind of exaggerating
it's known that poorfag families have trouble giving their children fashionable clothes and their kids can be bullied but that's just things they have to deal with.
It's not enough to call CPS.
>>52838632
>Those fuckers shouldn't be allowed to reproduce.
They are the only ones still having Finnish babies. Helsinki is at 1.4 birth rates, foreigners included.
>>52848895
>Norwegians can't breed anymore, either too old of gay
>Has to steal kids
Pathetic piece of shit of a nation.
>>52845029
Vennligst vær i Oslo.
Better send them to the nearest mosque Norway you racist piece of shit
>>52849515
We breed with thais so what is your problem german prick?
>>52849515
norway has a higher birth rate than both lithuania and germany though
>>52849681
All of it are africans and arabs i bet
>>52849515
>Germans can't breed anymore
>Import one million Muslims
Nice plan Hans.
>>52849707
No not all of them, some brazilians too, ain't that cute!?!
Indoctrination wasnt the reason though, stop believing everything you read online
>>52849781
>some brazilians too
JUST FUCK MY EUROPE UP
>>52849813
Yeah I know bros
>>52849473
>people seriously hate laestadians
You must hate your own country then.
>>52849879
All laesthadians are inbred and retarded, they also look the same (ugly inbred face, almost grey hair). The reason laesthadian kids always stare at people with their mouths open and act like shit is because they are genetically inferior little monsters.
t. grew up close to Oulu in a town filled with them
>>52850010
Better bring more africans :^)
>>52850010
I'm from Oulu too and thanks to them have almost replacement rate birth rates. Get drowned in your niggers in Helsinki.
>>52849795
Yes apparently the children were being "disciplined" for not doing what they were told. They were CT scanned and x-rayed after being kidnapped, but unfortunately they were fine.
>>52850088
Lmao fucking nazis
>ITT: let me tell you about your society and culture, Norway
>>52817069
Tell me about it.
>>52836981
He works as a beggar in Norway every 6 months.
>>52843186
>You can't teach children to think a certain way because that's wrong
So teaching kinds to embrace being a nazi or religious fundamentalist is okay?
>>52817069
TL;DR
Subhuman cultures think they know what constitutes child abuse or not, and tell Norwegians they're nazis.
>>52853100
ITT filthy fisherman "patriots" desperately trying to justify their state and its right to kidnap children.
Google Adele Johansen. Just read about the shit that this scum is trying to defend here.
>>52859474
regards ivan ivanovitch
>>52859474
>filthy fisherman "patriots" desperately trying to justify their state and its right to kidnap children
"to save", not "kidnap", my lowlife german friend
>>52859520
>t.Bork Scumbagsen
>>52859712
To "save" government property from its family.
>>52859474
>ITT: Another "filthy fisherman" comes and tells a stupid fuckin' nazi to go shove a dick in his ass.
The "filthy fisherman" also tells the stupid fuckin' nazi to go and look at the UN's best countries in the world list.
Maybe the stupid fuckin' nazi will understand that we have a lot to defend and maybe the stupid fuckin' nazi will shut the fuck up?
>>52859827
no no my kraut shithead friend, "to save from abuse"
>>52859712
he's not german he's a russian
last summer he kept making shitpost threads in broken english about the ukrainian conflict and called everyone who opposed his unproofed opinions and RT articles nato shills
>>52859840
>We have oil, therefore our kids are the property of the state
Not how it works, savage walrus.
>>52859949
oh ok, then he is my slav shit friend
>>52859945
Who will save them from the abuse of the state?
>>52859949
Cool story, Bork Scumbagsen on vacation.
>>52860032
>[LOUD TRIGGERING IN THE DISTANCE]
>>52860032
mad ruski detected
>>52859986
Not what I said, shithead.
>>52860064
>>52860108
You are so mad that if I was Russian I would probably hear your ass explode.
>>52860032
>Who will save them from the abuse of the state?
School, training, activities and being with kids their own age, hmm it dosn't sound like abuse to me
>>52860179
>anal status: winter warified
>>52860136
Exactly what you said, savage scum.
>Muh UN
This is what the rest of Europe thinks on your filthy matter:
>Hvis man leser menneskerettighetsdomstolens dokumenter, ser man at nesten alle henvisninger til artikkel 8 nevner «Johansen vs. Norway». I 1995 uttalte Strasbourg-representanter at norsk barnevern ble ansett som et betydelig problemområde og at de fikk mange klager herfra, men at de hadde ventet på en sak som kunne «aksentuere alle de prosessuelle sporsmålene samtidig». Derfor valgte de Johansen. Ikke fordi saken var grovere enn hauger av andre. Så mye for barnevernets påstand om at man ikke kan domme etaten ut ifra en enkeltsak.
>>52860199
Causing a mental trauma by kidnapping a child from his parents sure does sound like abuse.
>>52860375
mental trauma was already caused by abusive, alcoholics, drug addict parents.
>>52860458
Except for that thousands of occasions when the parents are neither of mentioned.
>In late March and April 2015 Barnevernet took away 2.5-month-old Maxine girl whose mother is deaf Norwegian and father is Slovak. As the main reason given was "lack of eye contact between girl and her parents".
This, foe example. You may now proceed with your justifications, piece of shit.
>>52859474
Didi you really just tell me to look at the case about Adele Johansen, retard? They basically saved a child from some white thrash mother who wasn't even able to take care of herself. If that child was born in Germany or some other shit-tier country it would probably be dead a long time ago, or locked away in some old man's basement.
What we have learned in this thread.
>Germany goes to war with Norway because they read something dick-ish the norwegian goverment did once.
>Norwegians are the real master race you Nazi scum.
>Finnish people likes to post pictures.
>>52860521
>father is a slav
sounds like abuse to me
>>52860528
I'm sure this is what your state tells you. Too bad Strasbourg has another opinion. Maybe that is because they are not stinky savage kidnapping oilniggers.
All children born to families with faith in semitic religions should be removed by the government
>>52860636
Your state told you that jews were bad and you were the "master race". But didn't you guys get butt fucked in the end by every western country?
Or am I wrong?
>>52860826
I sure hope that you guys will get butt fucked by every western country for this state propelled kidnapping industry, just like nazis like you deserve.
>>52861013
But you're a nazi? So is you calling us a nazi a good thing or are you just calling us and you a stupid fuckin' nazi ?
>>52861013
nah chill down bro.. Don't they have chill pills in Germany?
>>52821349
oh shut the fuck up.
No one cares about muslims brainwashing their kids while living on Norwegian welfare
>>52861413
I heard their SHOWERS is really chill.
I even heard they are to DIE for.
Sometimes I get really irritated when I'm GASSy.
