As my time here in Finland comes to an end, I thought I would post something here before going back home.
White South Africans don't want to live in Europe because it's not our home. We love South Africa and want to see it thriving. My biggest problem with racist posts on the internet is that I imagine tons of black people, people who are not happy with the current situation in South Africa either and who would be willing to vote for the same opposition that 99% of white South Africans support, think twice when they come across selfishly racist posts. They only serve to destroy national unity and are usually posted by angry and bitter loser expats who couldn't make it at home.
Instead of slinging mud at the other side, because each side has its faults, it would be better to work together with likeminded people, regardless of race, to improve our country.
This. Come home white man!
Your home is Kazakstan!
>>52756445
Where do you live?
>>52756522
Beautiful country. Wouldn't mind visiting.
Fuck dude I get it you're proud and everything but why do you pimp out South Africa so hard every fuckign day on /int/?
>>52756445
Fuck off, Boer. Next week noggers will rape you to death for fun and your opinion wont matter.
>>52756522
Where do you live?
>>52756552
I leave in 2 days so fuck it.
>>52756547
South Africa
>>52756587
But where do you live in Finland?
>>52756577
In yurt
>>52756603
The cold hard North.
>>52756616
what city?
>>52756623
Do you stay at home most of the time and where do you live in South Africa?
>>52756445
Are you that SA guy living in finland cause he is working for a mining company there or something?
>>52756665
I live own a house in Cape Town
>>52756701
Yep. Can't wait to get back!
>>52756728
Have you visited other African countries?
Is it painful to breathe in the Finnish winter?
>>52756728
Ayy I also live in Cape Town. The weather is lekker here right now. I think on Wednesday it's gonna be 37°C
>>52756728
Come home fellow white man, we are not made for the cold.
>>52756833
>37°C
It's -17 where I'm at right now :D
>>52756833
> saffer slang
wew, reminds me of living in perth
dog bless you, John Van Der Merwe
>>52756881
it's 34*c right now and it's 9pm. got up to 42 today
t-trade?
>>52756833
Lecker means tasty in german.
I only have heard nice things about Cape town also fro mmy father who was often there on business.
That was before the crime rate skyrocketed and before the end of apartheid though.
>>52756907
>John
What am I? A soutie?
>>52756796
>Have you visited other African countries?
Yes, a few.
>Is it painful to breathe in the Finnish winter?
Not really. You get used to it pretty quickly.
>>52756866
Lekker by die see
>>52756728
I know a guy from Zambia
He always wears shorts, even in the dead of winter
>From Southernmost tip of Africa to Northmost tip of Europe
How the hell did you survive?
>>52756958
Cape Town isn't that bad compared to Joburg. Joburg is fucked m8
>>52756968
Sorry Christian ;^)
>>52757012
elaborate
>>52756972
Which cities did you visit in Africa?
How much time did you spent in Finland until now?
>>52756933
R.I.P.
>>52757039
The ANC run Joburg and they have fucked it up completely. The crime is really bad there and the infrastructure is fucked. Lots of people from Joburg are moving to the Cape because it's better and safer
>>52756445
You are a fucking idiot if you believe that.
>>52756445
By the way man, you are doing the right thing, just wantedt o say that before I leave for today.
It is just fucking hard to turn the other cheek if you get shit on all the time and nations like Saudi Arabia exist.
Dog Bless.
>>52757039
The greener the area on the map, the more black people
>>52757190
You should really split South Africa in 2. It will finally create a rich country in Africa.
>>52756993
>How the hell did you survive?
I have experience working in the South African Arctic bases.
>>52757040
I've driven through Namibia, Botswana, Zimbabwe and Zambia. I've also been to Tanzania, Nigeria and Uganda.
>>52757190
Coloreds aren't white tbqh
>>52757190
>>52757246
/volkstaat/ wanneer?
>>52756445
>>52757271
Culturally they are as close as it gets. They also speak Afrikaans.
>>52757246
>You should really split South Africa in 2. It will finally create a rich country in Africa.
Too simplistic. There are more rich people in Johannesburg than Cape Town.
>>52757251
Are you white and which countries/cities had better climates than others?
Do you like the climate in Finland more than the climate of your city?
>>52757398
>There are more rich people in Johannesburg than Cape Town.
That's the most retarded metric I've ever heard of.
>>52757343
Nooit. If you really want to live amongst only white people there are several 80%-90%+ white towns.
>>52757012
>>52757054
>Joburg
Fuck, that triggers me. We have a city of Yekaterinburg which is commonly shortened to basically the same word.
>>52757410
Read the OP, yes, I'm an Afrikaner. It's bard to comoare places like that because they change by the season.
I don't mind the climate here, you get used to it, especially if you get properly rewarded for enduring it. Home is always best.
>>52757434
Please posit your superior metric.
What are the biggest socioeconomic problems in South Africa? What are the most commonly proposed solutions (I assume conflicting opinions based on your post).
>>52757649
The biggest issue is educating the masses of poor people. The education system was "modernised" after the end of Apartheid following the advice of American experts. It's completely fucked it up. The challenge now is to implement a new system.
Here are some expert opinions http://www.leader.co.za/article.aspx?s=1&f=1&a=2893
Too few South Africans in work
The quality of school education for most black people is sub standard
Poorly located and inadequate infrastructure limits social inclusion and faster economic growth
Spatial challenges continue to marginalise the poor
South Africa's growth path is highly resource intensive and hence unsustainable
The ailing public health system confronts a massive disease burden
The performance of the public service is uneven
Corruption undermines state legitimacy and service delivery
South Africa remains a divided society.
>>52757822
You forgot immigrants.
>>52757649
>Poorly located and inadequate infrastructure limits social inclusion and faster economic growth
>Spatial challenges continue to marginalise the poor
Apartheid may have ended on paper but in practice people still live in the areas designated to them during Apartheid. The map I'm posting show the 3 different races in Cape Town, white(purple), coloured(yellow) and black (green). There's some but very little overlaps where areas are becoming more integrated racially.
>>52757822
Wow, sounds really similar to my home country (America) but with more of a corruption component and less of an "our legislative process is fucked" component.
Those same experts screwed up our system too, so I see what you're talking about.
Is this a two-sided debate or are there multiple camps/parties involved?
>>52756445
Why do you want national unity?
Surely the Afrikaner culture has a better chance of survival if it seeks to go its own way? Why would you want to tie yourselves to a sinking ship?
>>52757979
Immigrants aren't a problem in South Africa unless they do business in poor townships. They provide cheaper labour than locals and sell the good in their shops at lower prices than locals and that causes friction.
>>52758080
Then why do you guys attack them?
Not even we do that, apart from that one time.
>>52756833
That's how hot it gets in Spain during g the summer. Could be worse.
>>52758069
>Surely the Afrikaner culture has a better chance of survival if it seeks to go its own way?
No, the exact opposite is true. This shows your ignorance of realities on the ground in South Africa. We own the best properties and live in cities. We make our money from black labour whether it's farming, manufacturing, banking etc. There is no us without them. It's always been thus way since we came. South Africa would have been a much better country if the Anglos just left Boers, Koi-San and Zulus alone.
Sort your rugby team out. What ever is going on in saffer land isn't working right now t.b.h
>>52758150
>why do you guys attack them?
>you guys
South Africa’s xenophobia comes from a small amount of black people who are jealous of foreign Africans. The term foreigner in South Africa refers to African and Asian non-nationals.
White immigrants are thought to be tourists or expats.
>>52758405
We fielded too many old guys at the World Cup. Our sevens team rekt you at the Commonwealth Games though.
>>52756445
are you that south african that worked in mine in Funland?
What are your impressions of Finland? Is it weird to go outside without the fear of imminent lynching at the hand of the ghouls?
>>52758665
Lol. Finland's been nice.
>>52756522
>pictured, the only place that looks like this in a sea of steppe
>>52758274
This oke has the right idea
>>52756728
Youre not a boer you poephol. Why are you roleplaying?
>>52756445
Well said my friend
>>52757634
(average life expectancy)/80 + (average years in education)/12 - (murder rate per 100 000)/6
>>52759056
that would mean the USA is a hellhole full of shit.
>>52759056
>South African President Jacob Zuma commented in 2009 on Afrikaners being "the only white tribe in a black continent or outside of Europe which is truly African." and said that "of all the white groups that are in South Africa, it is only the Afrikaners that are truly South Africans in the true sense of the word." These remarks have led to the Centre for Constitutional Rights (CCR) laying a complaint with the Human Rights Commission against Zuma.
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Zuma-Afrikaners-true-S-Africans-20090402
>>52759002
Gaan slaap
>>52759179
You would have to apply the metric to specific neighbourhoods. There are nice places in the states.
>>52759179
your point being?
>>52759298
This counts for every country.
I mean you apply this to Berlin and you would get some third world shithole.
If you apply it to Regensburg and it will be heaven on earth.
I want to know how a society does as a whole.
>>52759389
What I said is true about any metric like HDI and IHDI.
>>52759056
None of those directly take into consideration how rich people are.
>>52759441
I can do this to a rich people beighboarhood in Angola or to some rural place where people starve.
That doesn't mean you will join the rich community.
Why white South Africans are coming home
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27252307
>Lifestyle is one of the top three reasons given by white South Africans for deciding to go home, along with family connections and "a sense of belonging", according to Homecoming Revolution research.
>For the 85% who do successfully reintegrate, there are certain aspects of life back home that perhaps only those who have left and returned can appreciate.
>Ms Jones describes it as a "genuine feeling of being alive" that South Africans do not experience in new lives overseas, whether it is Britain, Australia or New Zealand.
>"It's a trade-off to come back to South Africa and it is natural that people have very mixed feelings about it. In the end, the decision to come home is an emotional one.
>>52759497
>beighboarhood
>>52759551
If only all immigrants felt this way.
>>52759650
they feel like this as long as they are from nice places.
>sadly Arabs are from shitholes
>>52759693
Bullshit.
Turkey is way nicer than South Africa.
>>52759740
>Turkey is way nicer than South Africa.
t. been to neither places
>>52759740
Turks aren't Arabs tho.
And they return to Turkey as pensioneers quite often.
>>52759777
Turkey is really very beautiful as except the east.
>>52756445
Good luck back in South Africa.
>>52756552
When he gets back to South Africa he won't be able to access 4chan on most ISPs because it's banned for hate speech
>>52759740
>Turkey is way nicer than South Africa.
Turks in the West come from the shithole parts of Turkey. Poor black South Africans don't leave the country.
>>52759803
Thanks.
>>52759909
Not true.
>>52760018
>Not true.
Jokes friend, lighten up
>>52756445
Why are south africans such huge country cucks? They are always talking about this feeling of missing their """home""" full of homicidal mouth-foaming blacks on a kill whitey crusade?
The ones that are not even living anywhere near SA are the worst with this desu
>>52756445
You can't fix shit if you're cuck, and you are a cuck. The niggers don't give a shit about you, and cheer on every missery that comes to you or your people.
>>52761819
Ah Johannesburg, a beautiful place
>>52761220
>>52761419
Stormfags gtfo please
>>52761889
>Stormfag
Hey SAnon what are you going to miss about Finland?
>>52761419
>making fun of parents who completely lose their mind after their kid dies
not cool, really
>>52761419
>1993
The guys who did that weren't part of the ANC. It's some fringe group who got no votes.
>>52761819
t. Oscar Pistorius
>>52762047
>Hey SAnon what are you going to miss about Finland?
Their tomato ketchup called Felix. It's the best I've ever had anywhere.
>>52761220
>country cucks
I think it's called being Nationalist
We don't have any South Africans
They all come from Somalia, which is doomed hellhole
I know what even other Africans hate Somalis
>>52757822
>Corruption undermines state legitimacy and service delivery
What do you mean here? That could mean anything.
>>52759056
Years in education isn't even a real metric, since you could do anything during those years.
Go back to your Reddit cuck country already
>>52756522
nice landscaping
>>52765942
>What do you mean here?
There can be no debate as to whether the South African public service is corrupt or not. This has been openly stated by leaders in government and the trade union movement.
There are clear ways out of this situation:
The assumption and support for a shared vision and values as inter alia expressed in our constitution.
Leadership commitment and examples are crucial as these set the culture in which others act. The reality is that ethics are driven from above and therefore succeeds or fails with those in leadership positions.
Codes of conduct are already formulated and signed. The problem lies in the enforcement of the codes with appropriate sanctions where people dishonour the expected behaviour. This may include legal action that is swift and sends a clear message that codes are not just words on paper.
Performance evaluation should include living of values and be linked to appropriate forms of development and reward.
On a longer term, the institutions of moral formation should be strengthened: a strong family life; functional schools with teachers as moral examples; religious communities that reinforce commitment to truth and honesty; and workplaces that embody good values.
To turn corruption around is an inter-generational task: If we do all of the above at the same time, we might see changes over the next decade or two. There is no quick fix.
>>52765814
Are they more hated than Nigerians? I've never read anything about Somalia, but I've read about many African countries hating Nigerian immigrants
>>52766354
>There can be no debate as to whether the South African public service is corrupt or not.
What kind of corruption, asshole?
>be South African
>get turned into an alien
>>52767272
>Tenderpreneurism
Tenderpreneur is a term that describes individuals who enrich themselves through corrupting the awarding of government tender contracts, mostly based on personal connections and corrupt relationships - although outright bribery might also take place - and sometimes involving an elected or politically appointed official (or his or her family members) holding simultaneous business interests. eg. http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Zuma-calls-on-businesses-to-fund-the-ANC-20150111
>BEE Fronting
BEE-fronting is an abuse of the rules governing Black Economic Empowerment (BEE), where qualifying persons are given a seat on the Board of Directors of a company while having no decision-making power in the company, in order to qualify the company for government contracts in terms of BEE. eg. http://www.fin24.com/Economy/Commission-to-police-BEE-fronting-20150812
>>52766121
>>52768208
There should be Bantustan for Afrikaners
>>52756522
my waifu is from there, how hard is to get citizenship?
Cecil John Rhodes was worse than Hitler. He was the architect of the Anglo-Boer war.
>>52757506
>Yeburg
lol
>>52756522
>having to learn cyrillic
>>52756522
Is Kazakstan like Russia without all that posturing and delusions of grandeur?
>>52757434
Berlin that shit then.
>>52759179
This is claimed on /int/ at least once per hour
>>52772783
At least it looks like poverty like in africa meets people who are richer than anyone can imagine here.
Giant gaps between being born lucky or being destined for life long slave labour and pitty.
>>52771817
>without all that posturing and delusions of grandeur?
His picture points to the contrary
