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Let's talk about Libya

Why did NATO want to take out Gaddafi so bad?

How is the condition of the country now?
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sic semper tyrannis :^))))
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>>52689595
I don't follow
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Ghaddafi was too based for them
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>>52689595
sic semper trannies
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He was a target of opportunity. They wanted to keep the Arab rebellions going, and they thought that the rebels (the NTC they called themselves) were way more unified than they turned out to be. The country now is worse off and the only way you can justify what happened is by taking a long view. In the long run they likely will be better off. Also, something like a third of the population moved to other countries.
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>>52689923
>Also, something like a third of the population moved to other countries.
Isn't that bad for everyone?
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>>52689552
>Let's talk about Libya
It's a shithole

>Why did NATO want to take out Gaddafi so bad?
Shitholes shouldn't act on their impulses

>How is the condition of the country now?
Still a shithole
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>>52690039
yes
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>>52689552
Better question - WHY did Russia and China didn't defend Saddam and Gaddafi like they do with Assad?

I'd prefer them to stay, Asia and North Africa would be less fucked
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>>52690105
based Algeria
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>>52690174
They couldn't. Plus Libya and Iraq are nowhere near as important to Russia as Syria. They don't have bases there, they don't have thousands of their citizens living there (at least pre-war) and they don't have the type of military cooperation. Plus, Russia would never intervene when US ground troops were directly involved like in Iraq.
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FUCK NATO

I HOPE ALL NATO COUNTRIES GET FLOODED WITH MEHMETS, ABDIS AND AHMEDS
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Eh, we were out of our league the whole time, trying to expand our sphere of influence, fighting proxy wars in Africa with France and funding guys like the IRA and even the Black Panthers
So yeah, troublesome guy got gotten rid of by the west.
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>>52690279
t. Gaddafi's ghost
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>>52690427
Holy shit lol, was not expecting an actual Libyan from Libya to post ITT

Was Gaddafi as bad as the western media made him out to be? That is, oppressing the people, torturing political opponents, killing protestors, raping women, etc?

Was the revolution supported by the majority of the country?
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>>52690844
He oppressed minorities, must've killed some protesters, probably prisoners could've been tortured, but these things happen all over the world. I don't know if gulf states, America and others can make it seem like those are the ultimate taboos. Of course they are crimes inexcusable, but the judges are just laughable.
Raping women thing was a meme. It's impossible to do it in such an Islamic tribal society, and doesn't even make sense. If you're that rich just get prostitutes or import sex slaves to rape from Thailand.

Anyways, believing in villains is retarded.
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>>52691480
Do you miss pre-2011 Libya?
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>>52690844
He bombed a civil plane, took nurses in hostage for a ransom and blackmailed our president.

I don't know if he was really as bad as the Jew said or only half of it, I know it's a good thing he was killed by angry mobs.

What is not a good thing is that the new ones are so corrupt they take the money that was supposed to buy peace (free electricity and fucking housing projects and so on) and now it's another civil war.
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The "rebels" started building a central bank there so you know why
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>>52691480
UNCOMMON
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>>52691575
Not really. Nostalgia is a powerful drug I personally avoid.
>>52691653
Those nurses were accused and found guilty of crimes.
>b-b-but only my european courts are just and third worlders are lying if they accuse foreigners of committing crimes
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>>52689552
They were socialist and the African country with the highest hdi index. They weren't in debt to anyone and Gadaffi was trying to create some form of Nort African gold standard currency thing. NATO were probably really mad that someone would challenge the western financial dominance
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>>52690174
Russia is not defending Assad, Russia is defending the pipeline. If there's no need for Russia to intervene then why do it.
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>>52691862
True. Best to look forward and not back.

How's Libya now? Heard that the groups fighting for control agreed to talks in Geneva or something.

You think anything will get done?
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>>52691862
wish you all the best. Please don't die
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>>52690105
Nah you´re very wrong

North African jealousy?
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>>52689552
It's bad.
It's a new syria.
France plan to invade with Algeria.
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Becaue Jew hate muslim.
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>>52691931
They even agreed on a government
Knowing the names, it's made up of neoliberal shills who'll probably sell schools and hospitals in a firesale
Oh well
>>52691936
Thanks man
>>52691963
He's butthurt we had larger dicks/higher hdi
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>>52691862
Nurses are not know for smuggling drugs or murdering people. The parody of tribunal you had found them guilty. They would find me guilty of cloning dinosaurs if I gave them money.
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>>52692228
t. expert
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>>52692201
Wasn't Libya the most influential country in the Muslim world before Saudi/Iran took over?
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>>52692306
Best Korea found Canadian nurses guilty of selling weapons on the black market during the war.

Would you say it was true?
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>>52689552
>A sand shithole with the most Oil reserves in Africa
>tiny population of disfranchised tribal primitives
>easy to conquer terrain, unlike afghanistan

Honestly, Egypt not invading Libya is just the stupidest thing the Arabs have done. At least with the sand nig's oil Egypt could become an actual regional super power and boost up the economy of the entire region.
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>>52692429
Egypt is so corrupt though
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>>52692396
how the fuck should I know?
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>>52692429
t.egyptian nigger
egypt used to have alot of gaz and did shit with it at least libya doesnt have garbage cities like your egypsy shithole
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>>52692551
why is Egypsy such a horrible place?

it's truly revolting, really
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>>52692506
Do you ever saw a nurse? They are like, the least dangerous people on earth. And Canadian ones....

That would be a first time in history.
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>>52692347
Libya and Turkey yeah
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>>52692228
That could be said about anyone
>Accountants are not known for x crime or y crime
>>52692347
Could be right after Abdenasser died and before KSA got to spread Wahabism
>>52692429
It took Italy 30 years to
Do you think the Egyptian are more competent than the Italian?
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>>52692590
pan ayrabism/military rule / british colonization / the successors of based mohamed ali were shit
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>>52692654
This is the most retarded argument of the century. Congratulations.
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>>52692709
>Do you think the Egyptian are more competent than the Italian?
Italians didn't have the troops and yes
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It's priceless how the Brits can't take the USA's shit everytime that easily.

>Libya: another neocon war

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/apr/21/libya-muammar-gaddafi
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>>52692347
That would be Egypt
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>>52692791
If a tribunal in Liberia found the engineers of GDF Suez guilty of murder, I would not believe it too, because it is unlikely. If Achmed is found guilty to make a bomb for whatever reason, I will belive it, because it happen all the time.

That's just logic. What happen all the time is more likely to happen again that something that go on the exact opposite of the everyday life.

55 year old bankers usually not beat the shit out of cops. Biker gangs usually not create offshore smoke society to make a company save money on taxes.
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>>52692551
>having a country with the same name as a plant
it's funny cause you're just as useless and irrelevant as that plant
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>>52692661
>Libya and Turkey yeah
No and no
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>>52692888
>>52693043
Libya was doing proxy wars in the 80s and 90s and leading the anti-west rhetoric
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>>52692999
lol that plant name isnt tunis its ma3danous or ba9danous in arabic you idiot (>inb4 arabic egyptian)
>>52692850
>reposting this pic 6 times
you lost the war idiot Israel btfoed egypt countless times and still controls you
dog bless the jews
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>>52693075
>Libya was doing proxy wars in the 80s and 90s and leading the anti-west rhetoric
name one of those wars then
>>52693096
>bkdunis
>tunis
no difference, city-state demilitarized monkey. You will also be appropriated into greater Egypt.
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>>52692850
>yom kippur war
let me know how that worked out for you senpai
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>>52692709
Anyone's more competent than the Italian.
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>>52693186
yeah lol and greater egypt will be appropriated into greater israel
>>52693273
not really. the french are worse in some aspects
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>>52692709
Ey bossman where in Libya do you live?
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>>52693273
except the austro-hungarians
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>>52693358
Such as?
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>>52693249
>forgetting your daddy
don't act strong lil boi
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>>52693411
fashion sense / cuisine / debating / agriculture/ shoes and other apparels production
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>>52693507
Agreed, except you forgot olive oil
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>>52693186
All over Africa like Mali, Chad, Uganda, Nigeria

IRA in Ireland

Anti-west groups in South America
Also
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>>52693592
>what is argiculture
also language tho french music and literature is much superior to the italian music and literature
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>>52693612
>Uganda
Eh, I'd contest that
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>>52693612
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>>52693631
>I rate stuff out of my ass
You're some kind of country critic or something?
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>>52693907
>You're some kind of country critic or something?
he's your colony so he regards himself as a frenchman cause tunisia has no identity of its own.
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>>52693977
fuck off butthurt egyptian nigger
>>52693907
yes Im in expert this shit from example one of my great works is : " egypt is a fucking shitty garbage cancer producing shithole"
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Gaddafi used to be mean with the Italians living there, but yet we saved his life back in the 80's.
Our kind hearth is our biggest flaw.
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>>52694104
he became friends with you in the early 00s gioviani
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>>52694089
>triggered
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>>52694141
for a period we really thought Libya was on the path of becoming the most relevant country of north africa, and possibly a 1st world nation.
I guess it would have been so, If Gaddafi hadn't been so greedy of power.
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>>52694089
fuck! that's tribal nigger tier

Are Algeria and Tunisia the only non completely helpess shitholes in North Africa? It seems more and more to be the case.
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>>52694264
Morocco is improving and is mostly gonna surpass both of us desu
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>>52694318
>>52694264
You will not see your country anywhere near this list in your lifetimes.
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>>52694475
cause there are small countries in the world m8 at least id never see a fucking garbage city with 50000 people in the fucking capital
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>>52694089
dat some catchy title
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>>52689658

>his country doesn't possess a giant hand that crunches jets

feels lackingtbh
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>>52694538
>mad tiny city states
this is why you should be appropriated to an actual country
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>>52692995
So I guess only people with careers in drug smuggling smuggle drugs?
Bulgarian nurses sound suspicious as fuck to, especially since Bulgaria doesn't sound like the most organized European country
And usually isn't worth shit. Courts don't go with their guts, they look for evidence.
>>52693273
Not the Egyptians
>>52693379
Tripoli
>>52693612
He funded Nelson Mandela when he was still considered a terrorist by the west.
>>52694264
Wait until NATO bombs you
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>>52694830
are you the anon who used to post under the name "ravioli"?
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>>52689552
>Why did NATO want to take out Gaddafi so bad?
to install a puppet government?
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>>52694830
>Not the Egyptians
If you think Egypt wouldn't absolutely demolish Libya in a week you're literally retarded.

You literally have pride cause you fought off a bunch of retarded Italians (italy never won a war in its history). Just cause they're white doesn't mean they're inherently better than you my little sand cousin.
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>>52689552
ONE WORD: PETRODOLLAR
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>>52695067
>italy never won a war in its history

>american education
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>>52689552
>Why did NATO want to take out Gaddafi so bad?

For revenge obviously
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>>52694318
I hope they get better but I'm skeptical. Morocco has excellent PR, thety always show the polished up picture to the world.

I've been following them more closely, they have a lot of covered up problems, and their government doesn't seem to be very willing to fix them (not that they have the money, they're already a leg and arm into debt). 3rd world monarchies are shit like that.

Their hope now is that tourists will diverge from Tunisia and Egypt and go there instead. They're investing even more heavily into touristic infrastructue (malls, marinas,etc.) not exactly the most primary infrastructure.

One thing I like though is how they're making real attempts at going green, it's not a priority either but it's nice, probably the only ones in MENA to do so.
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>>52695154
>italia stronk
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>>52695281
Americally literally lost against rice farmers
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>>52695281
why were yank soldiers so evil and ape like? obviously italian fascist propaganda wouldn't lie, north koreans had similar assumptions so there must be something with their savagery
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>>52692999
edgy
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>>52689552
French and Italian butthurt
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