Pic related is Romania's national hero.
>Hunted, having his army defeated and finally cornered by Roman detachments seeking his head. Rather than being captured to be exhibited and humiliated at Rome, Decebalus committed suicide by slashing his own throat, as depicted on Trajan's Column (spiral 22, panel b).
>It is likely that he killed himself as a Roman cavalry scout named Tiberius Claudius Maximus from Legio VII Claudia was approaching.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decebalus#Death
>>52687975
Did he steal copper from the roman's armor like a typical gypsy?
>inb4 romanians aren't gypsy
noiosa la vita in canada eh?
>>52688077
Rooooomaaaaaniaaaaaanssss! Wheeeeeere aaaaaare youuuuuuu?
>tfw forced to VENERATE Trajan,the guy that slaughtered your ancestors
>>52688692
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/filename/pep.jpg/country/ro/
>>52688765
>tfw all posts are made by me
sue me bitch ;^)
also you will never be romans, only a tiny piece like 5-10% of you can be considered romans.
Dont forget that you are called lombards and romanians romans :)
>>52688765
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/%3Emfw%20left%20my%20pregnant/
>>52688919
The only romans today are the italians from Rome.
>>52689182
pro-tip:
italians NOT romans
genetically speaking you are not romans
linguistically speaking you are not romans
so how can you be romans?
>>52689235
>being roman is genetic
HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Once again, the only romans today are the italians from the city of Rome and the ancient italian romans are modern italians' forefathers. No amount of memeing will change this reality.
As for you romanians, you are NOT part of the: ''Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, French'' group. Sorry.
>>52689319
what constitute being a roman?
By your logic a chinese from Norway is norwegian or a spanish guy from Spain who emmigrated 3 generations ago to Turkey is turk.
>>52689438
>what constitute being a roman?
Being romanized. As for Dacia it was part of the Roman Empire for only 164 years, unlike Gaul and Iberia (more than 500 years). Romania also got de-latinized like many other provinces, unlike Gaul and Iberia.
You're literally a culturally and linguistically cucked nation named by italian humanists who wanted to be nice and called you ''romani'' when they learned about ''your roman past''.
>Romania derives from the Latin romanus, meaning "citizen of Rome". The first known use of the appellation was attested in the 16th-century by Italian humanists travelling in Transylvania, Moldavia, and Wallachia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania#Etymology
''sheeit we wuz tah be roman citizens and sheit, dem italians be right yall''
>>52689652
we are not called romani, romani/rroma is the PC term for gypsy.
Romanians are called Români and the country România.
Even tough we were only 164 years under Roman Empire we will always be more roman than all the others combined, especially germans/slavs from north and n.africans/berbers from south playing roman.
>>52689764
>we will always be more roman than all the others combined
You may not have been as de-latinized as the other descendants of the roman provinces but you've still been de-latinized.
Once again, you are NOT part of the: ''Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, French'' group.
>>52689842
>''Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, French'' group
so we are not part of the bastards of romans because we are real romans ;)
Autism: The Thread (tm)
>>52689889
>bastards
More like the neo-latin descendants.
>we are real romans ;)
pic related
It's ITALY, SPAIN, PORTUGAL and FRANCE
Not ITALY, SPAIN, PORTUGAL, FRANCE and romania (top cuck)
>>52689652
Kinda unrelated, but it's funny
We call Italians "Włosi" and Rumanians were historically refered to as "Wołosi" (Vlachs)
I wonder how it's related, only your two nations were called like that. Heirs to West and East Rome respectively
>>52687975
Romania is an okay country, sadly they have the same problem as Bulgaria where the gypsies are taking over and they can't even genocide them anymore.
>>52690051
>East Rome respectively
kek no, see >>52689652 they were barely part of it.
>>52690137
>Romania is an okay country
t. ''WE WUZ'' #2
>>52689652
>we wuz tah
>wuz
fuck...used*
The quality of canadian posting has reached yet another new low.
>>52690449
t. Romanian in the Netherlands
>>52690172
lol idiot you have no knowledge of history
România is called exactly like the Eastern Roman Empire because it is a country made to gather and contain EVERY eastern latin populations after Byzantium fell.
Non-officialy we dont have a name, firstly we were called Dacia Trajana, then after Roman Empire fell we were called by the slavs wallachia, its a termen from germans that slavs borrowed, its used for ex-roman empire citizens.
But Wallachia is a barbaric name so we needed another name, thus Tara Româneasca came.
>>52691417
Anothe extra thing.
In 18th century Romania was almost called Dacia, but the pro-latins supported by the italians and french won and thus we are called Romania.
>>52691417
You were barely part of it. See this gif >>52689652
You also eventually became de-latinized. Deal with it.
>it is a country made to gather and contain EVERY eastern latin populations after Byzantium fell
[citation needed]
>>52691863
okay genius explain this.
Why Romania has:
>the most churches in the world by far, all byzantine themed
>why we speak the only east romance language
>>52691981
>>the most churches in the world by far, all byzantine themed
whoopty fuckin doo
>why we speak the only east romance language
Reminder:
>During the Middle Ages, Romanian became influenced by the Slavic languages and to some degree by Greek.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_language#Prehistory
>Romanian has had a greater share of foreign influence than some other Romance languages such as Italian in terms of vocabulary and other aspects.
>In modern times Romanian vocabulary has been strongly influenced by French, Italian and other languages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_language#Classification
>The Slavic influences on Romanian are especially noticeable and can be observed at all linguistic levels: lexis, phonetics, morphology and syntax. About 20% of modern Romanian words are of Slavic origin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_language#Slavic_languages
>>52691417
Romania is called like this from from Tara Romaneasca/Terrae Romanus, a name gievn by the roman colonists to designate that this zone is formed from pure blood romans
>>52692119
Nice lie but in reality:
>Romania derives from the Latin romanus, meaning "citizen of Rome". The first known use of the appellation was attested in the 16th-century by Italian humanists travelling in Transylvania, Moldavia, and Wallachia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania#Etymology
>>52692094
your entire post didnt explain anything.
You just proven we have slavic words in it.
So?
Soon all languages will have atleast 15% english words in it
We barely use the words from your pic related
>>52692335
>We barely use the words from your pic related
Sure thing pal.
>>52692190
an mistake.
Thats Romania, aka the term used for Byzantine Empire.
Romania comes from Tara Romaneasca/Wallachia.
>>52692359
it does not matter how many words we borrowed, what matters on a structure is the grammar
Italiane ven tough it lives where romans were, it still cannot compare to romanian grammar, who we lived for thousands of years with barbars
>>52692473
>muh romanian grammar
It doesn't matter when your language sounds like turkish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz0K-0c0nT8
>>52688692
>>52688919
>>52689053
>>52689235
>>52689438
>>52689764
>>52689889
>>52691417
>>52691541
>>52691981
>>52692119
>>52692335
>>52692414
>>52692473
>disgusting gypsies
>>52693148
ok you have officialy lost the debate.
Look how insecure you are man,you post manele aka gypsy songs with gypsy words in it sang by gypsies with gypsy accent.Thats like me posting a nigerian rapper singing a nigerian song in english and calling it english
Deal with it, you will never be able to call yourself romans because there is a population in South-East population that already calls itself like this.If Italians beleived they were romans they would have called themselvs Romania not us.
Ignore >>52693234
he is a pro-separatist from Gagauzia, a slav-rape baby.
>>52693234
Hello Vladimir, why dont you come to /balk/ anymore?Is it cause you got btfoed?
>>52690172
hmm, aren't they related to those arumanian people and latin speaking people living in balkans before south slavic invasion?
justinianic dynasty, most prominent in byzantine history is said to come from there
>>52693234
yes
>>52693234
KEK ive been to that thread.
Fake troll thread, the cock image was cut from a guy from /soc/ and the image are not even from the same guy
>>52689235
sure all romans, in italy and gaul just vanished and all off them settled down in romania right? top kek seriously, memes aside is this really what romanians believe?
>>52693323
>muh manele
>muh gypsies
Here's a romanian folk song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Ol0t3_Clo
Compare it to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGs3QAraXOY
>>52693323
>you will never be able to call yourself romans
The only romans today are the italians from the city of Rome and the ancient italian romans are modern italians' forefathers.
Deal with it.
>>52693429
No.
But after Roman Empire fell , the North was raped by barbars,avars,huns,goths,berbers etc while the South is made from imported n.africans and arabs
A fact attested by history and today even genetics
>>52693527
All the words from that song are latin in origin.
>>52693557
italians != romans
>>52693557
interestingly Romania is the only statal latin formation that was formed by romans and thus only us can claim we are romans, all the others were formed by german populations.
>>52693653
> South is made from imported n.africans and arabs
citiation badly needed.besides sicilia south italy hardly ever invaded. and sorry for breaking you down, but there is no "roman genes" or haplogroups I should say.
And you need to show when romans mass migrated to romania.
>>52693653
It still doesn't sound neo-latin at all. It sounds turkish (language which actually sounds better) mixed with polish.
Here's an italian song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woSQDYu0g8M
Unmistakably neo-latin.
>the North was raped by barbars,avars,huns,goths,berbers etc while the South is made from imported n.africans and arabs
Well meme'd but Italy NEVER got de-latinized and the ancient italian romans = modern italians' forefathers. That's reality.
pic related
>>52693769
The only romans today are the italians from the city of Rome, not you, silly dacoboy.
>>52693791
this
>>52693791
>And you need to show when romans mass migrated to romania.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanians#Ancient_times
South Italians and Sardinians non-european and thus NOT white.
Proven by genetics.J2 semitic is dominant in South also the R1B celtic is dominant in North
>>52693795
we also have the words from that image so your image means null
The italian song does not sound latin, firstly not the same grammar and topic.
It sounds girly.
>>52693791
Southern Italy was heavily populated in the ancient past by the Greeks and received immigrants from Phoenicia and other seafaring Mediterannean populations, while northern Italy received influxes of Celtic and Germanic peoples. This overall trend continued pretty much up until present day--Arabs and Spaniards (who in turn had plenty of Arabic influence themselves) conquered and settled in the South from the Dark Ages through the 19th century, while the north mingled more with the French, Austrians, Swiss, and others.
>>52693984
>The italian song does not sound latin
It sounds like what the romans spoke: VULGAR LATIN.
>we also have the words from that image
They are not as close as the italian ones and your language sounds like a mix between turkish and polish.
You should ask yourself, "why can italians sound naturally fluent by simply reading latin but I can't?"
You've been cucked culturally and linguistically. Dry those tears now.
>>52693791
The Italian people have somewhat varied European origins apart from the original Ancient Italic peoples: Northern Italy had a strong Celtic presence in Cisalpine Gaul until the Romans conquered and colonised the area in the 2nd century; the central portion of the Italian peninsula was inhabited by the Etruscans and Italic people; and southern Italy and Sicily was settled significantly by Greeks (see Magna Graecia).
The Romans Romanized the entire peninsula and preserved common unity until the 5th century AD. After the collapse of the Roman Empire in the West in 476 AD, the Italian peninsula was invaded by Germanic peoples crossing the Alps, establishing settlements in north-central Italy and to a lesser degree in the south. The Germanic tribes underwent rapid Romanization.
The Byzantine Greeks were an important power in southern Italy for five centuries, fighting for supremacy first against the Ostrogoths and later against the Lombards of Benevento. Greek speakers were fairly common in Calabria and Apulia until the 11th century when their rule ended: a few small Greek-speaking communities still exist in southern Italy and Sicily.
In 827 AD, the island of Sicily was invaded starting the period of Arab and North African influence in Sicily and Apulia, especially Bari. Arabs controlled Sicily until the Norman Christians conquered much of southern Italy and all of Sicily in 1091 AD, and began expelling them.
SOURCE:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italians
>>52694051
Trigger warning:
>The Etruscan civilization reached its peak about the 7th century, but by 509 BC, when the Romans overthrew their Etruscan monarchs, its control in Italy was on the wane. By 350 BC, after a series of wars with both Greeks and Etruscans, the Latins, with Rome as their capital, gained the ascendancy by 272 BC, and they managed to unite the entire Italian peninsula.
>Augustus created for the first time an administrative region called Italia with inhabitants called "Italicus populus", stretching from the Alps to Sicily: for this reason historians like Emilio Gentile called him Father of Italians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italians#Roman_era
ancient italians = modern italians' forefathers and ''Ancient Rome'' = ancient italian civilization
Deal with it.
>>52693948
J1 is semitic you dumbass, not J2.It's common in medditerenean countries and caucasia, J2 is most likely core of greco-roman or medditerenean genetic..
>>52694051
>>52693948
Until you show south italy is invaded by arabs, you have no point. And That wiki article does talk about a theory, but saying all romania is descended from legions seems wrong.
>>52694099
Still no info about southern italy being invaded by arabs.
>>52689652
>gaul and iberia
>not delatinized
Germonkeys should be honest
>>52694099
>The Germanic tribes underwent rapid Romanization.
Do you even read what you copy and paste? lel
Once again, Italy NEVER EVER EVER got de-latinized. Unlike your nation which has been cucked culturally and linguistically.
>>52694161
what's good about the romans? theu hardly invented anything and most of their "innovations" were directly taken from the etruscans
their literature is shit, their philosophy and religion is a shallow copy of the greeks and they were horrific to anyone not roman
pic related, greeks to egyptians are the same as romans to greeks
>>52694310
>what's good about the romans?
>>52694072
>"why can italians sound naturally fluent by simply reading latin but I can't?"
pro-tip:sounding
romanian>italian in grammar
>They are not as close as the italian ones and your language sounds like a mix between turkish and polish.
albus:alb
bellum:frumos(formōsus.)
cogitare:cuget
cruor:sange
domus:casa/camin
edere:mancare
emere:cumparare
etc
>>52694161
1.Etruscans were I2 proto-europeans,nothing to do with romans or even italians.
>>Augustus created for the first time an administrative region called Italia with inhabitants called "Italicus populus", stretching from the Alps to Sicily: for this reason historians like Emilio Gentile called him Father of Italians.
yes italian population aka a mix of everything after Rome fell.
>>52694183
>Still no info about southern italy being invaded by arabs.
i just gave you a link from literally Italy wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italians
>>52694352
You literally confirmed what I said with those shit-tier comparisons. The derived words from latin in italian are a lot more similar and you're still ignoring the fact that they spoke VULGAR LATIN.
>>52694310
They made the west what it is today, they were huge improvment for europeans.That's why western people like to wanking around roman history.
>>52694444
I still cannot see south italy(besides sicily as I said above) invaded by arabs.
>>52694346
>>what's good about the romans?
it's an actual question you retard, they have objectively not done a single good thing.
>>52694444
>muh genetics
The etruscans were ancient italians, same as the minoans, mycaeneans, macedonians, spartans etc. being ancient greeks.
Pic related, stay triggered and once again, Italy NEVER EVER EVER got de-latinized and unlike your silly nation it isn't cucked culturally and linguistically.
>>52694515
c'mon know, you're exaggerating.
>>52694445
actually the romanian ones sound closer to latin and we have more amoutn of ancient latin words aka classical latin than anyone.
>>52694515
>objectively not done a single good thing
Jesus Christ, american education is THAT bad?
Arches, grid based cities, sewers, sanitation, roads, aqueducts, roman numerals, surgery tools/techniques, julian calendar, newspapers, concrete, bound books, welfare, the twelve tables and the corpus Juris Civilis etc. etc. etc. etc.
Literally just read a book you clueless little turd.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_technology
>>52694529
>etruscans
Etruscans were exterminated and enslaved by the romans, none of their genetics remain
>>52694573
I'm not, roman empire was an empire of injustice and tyranny to anyone not from their archipelago
>>52694529
but etruscans have nothing do with italian
They had hap E1b1b aka proto-european balkanic
Not only that but etruscans not spoke italian
How can you even bring estruscans into this discussion?
>>52694623
>the romanian ones sound closer to latin
They don't. See >>52693795
Also, once again, the romans spoke VULGAR LATIN.
>>52694690
>They had hap E1b1b aka proto-european balkanic
it's retarded that you even think that can be ascertained
>>52694705
What?
albo sounds closer than albus?
coitare sounds closer than cugetare?
duomo closer than dom?
>>52693795
>2 italiano
wtf nigga
>>52694680
>I'm not, roman empire was an empire of injustice and tyranny to anyone not from their archipelago
That's basically all empires.Also I despise how they systematially destoyed etruscan statues and their arts.
>>52694794
I agree.But they came from Caucasus and were proto-europeans so E and G were their main
"One study showed that the areas of historical Etruscan occupation share a relatively high concentration of y-haplogroup G with Anatolians and the people of the Caucasus, where the haplogroup reaches its greatest presence, particularly amongst the Georgians and Ossetians. This evidence is not specific to any period or calendar date, and might reflect contiguous populations or significant migration far back in the Stone Age. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruscan_origins
>again the non-white arab rape baby italian making this thread
Never existed a "Roman race" and not even a "Roman ethnicity". Since the beginnings Romans were of mixed ethnicities or tribes (in the primordial Rome: Latins, Sabines and Etruscans). People could have been "Roman" only by citizenship ("civis romanus sum"). After the Social wars Roman citizenship was extended to all the tribes living in the peninsular Italy and at the time of Augustus to the tribes living in Cisalpine Gaul too when the borders of Italy were brought to the Alps. In 212 AD with the constitutio antoniniana Roman citizenship was extended to all free peoples living inside the Empire.
>>52694795
Are you retarded? This is a serious question.
Yes, albo (IT) is closer to albus (LA) than the romanian ''alb''.
Yes, coitare (IT) is closer to cogitare (LA) than the romanian ''cuget''.
Yes, duomo (IT) is closer to domus (LA) than the romanian ''camin''.
>>52694837
They're all the derived words.
>>52694690
Full retard and I'm not the one who brought them up. They were still italic people of the italian peninsula, therefore ancient italians.
>>52694996
>muh whiteness
Your nation is 3rd world and you're cucked linguistically and culturally. What's with your superiority complex you silly romani turd?
Your post is also not teaching me anything new. Besides:
>Italy (Italia in Latin and Italian) was the name of the administrative division of the Italian peninsula during the Roman era. It was not a province, but became the territory of the city of Rome, thus having a special status. Following the end of the Social War (91–88 BC), Rome had allowed its Italian allies (socii) full rights in Roman society and granted the Roman citizenship to all the Italic peoples.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Italy#Characteristics
The ancient italian romans are still the forefathers of modern italians. No memes will change this reality.
See >>52694529 >>52694161
>>52695096
you have nothing to do with Etruscans, to claim such thing means to be retarded.Not linguistically, not genetically not from name.Thats like saying that Russians are the proto-aryans because there lived the proto-aryans.
Gtfo.
Coitare is not closer to cogitare than the romanian cugetare.
Italian:Coitare
Romanian:Cugetare
Latin:Cogitare
Even a 6 year old can see
Its not romanian camin, we have tens of synonyms and camin is used for orphanage.
also
Italian:albo
Romanian:alb
Latin:albus
6 year old can see
>>52695196
Stop linking etruscans, genetically and linguistically you have nothing to do with them.
Never existed a "Roman race" and not even a "Roman ethnicity". Since the beginnings Romans were of mixed ethnicities or tribes (in the primordial Rome: Latins, Sabines and Etruscans). People could have been "Roman" only by citizenship ("civis romanus sum"). After the Social wars Roman citizenship was extended to all the tribes living in the peninsular Italy and at the time of Augustus to the tribes living in Cisalpine Gaul too when the borders of Italy were brought to the Alps. In 212 AD with the constitutio antoniniana Roman citizenship was extended to all free peoples living inside the Empire.
>>52695196
Dude since nobody is answering bs resbond :DD
Has south Italy besides sicilia is ever invaded by arabs?
>>52695287
read >>52694099
its from Italians wiki
also
"Because the majority of people living in Southern Italy are descendants of Greeks. The Southern half of Italy was part of Magna Graecia from 900BC meaning Greater Greece. The various Greeks would often refer to the Greeks in Italy as Italiotes. The first cities in Italy were Greek and over one hundred colonies and more than twenty cities were founded by Greeks in Southern Italy. After the medieval period only the lower parts of Italy remained Hellenistic. The north of Italy was overrun by Germanic tribes who were taller and larger in size. The Northern parts of Italy have less Hellenic features and more Germanic Features. Today Calabria, Sicily, Apulia and Bascilicata (forming the boot of Italy) are the only places you will find large numbers of the descendants of the original Italiotes, who were of Greek descent.
About Magna Graecia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utv6YzdalRY
About the dying dialect of Greek of Southern Italy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griko_dialect
Basically you could say because Southern Italians were once Greeks. Infact the word Italian or Italiotes was only used to refer to the Greeks living on the Italian peninsula. After the Medieval period and the division of the church, Latin dominated Italy along with Germanic people from the north."
>>52695271
>literally can't read latin
>language sounds like turkish
>''muh language is more latin than yours!!''
Cringe.gif
>you have nothing to do with Etruscans
When did I ever claim this? Besides, the Etruscans are still ancient italians. It's like saying to a greek ''hurr you have nothing to do with the minoans!''. They're part of the country's history you imbecile.
>alb is closer to albus than albo
Full retard.
>reposting useless text like an autist
See the reply that I already gave you >>52695196
>>52695347
Northern italians are Celts and Lombards (a germanic people who came from Sweden) also in the Middle Age many Germans settled in Northern Italy..particularly Veneto Friuli and near the Swiss border in the North-West
Southern Italians are predominantly greeks but there are many Southern italians nordic looking...don't forget that the Normans settled in Southern italy..
>>52687975
Better than the Russian national hero who was a cuckold to the Mongols
>>52695347
>900BC
>ignoring the complete Romanization of Italy
>ignoring >>52694161
>ignoring >>52695196
Italy never got de-latinized. Meme harder.
>>52695394
alb is closer, We also have albus but used very rarely
>>52695347
>Being Greeks
>Being still more Latin than Romania
Greeks are more Latin than you tbqh
Cultural but not linguistical
Don't forget who Rome took as inspiration and forefather
>>52695458
You can't read latin and your language sounds like turkish. Sorry but Romania will never be a part of the neo-latin ''Italy, Spain, Portugal and France'' group.
You've been cucked culturally and linguistically. Dry those tears now and deal with it.
>>52695347
You know even the descedants of builders of rome are migrants right?I mean if you are implying south italy is not italian, that does not proving it at all.
>>52695394
Our language is very systematic lad, stop insulting us.
>>52695506
I love turkish music and Turkey has a rich history. It's a shame about Islam but Turkey will always be superior to Romania.
>>52695452
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_Italy
lmao you literally CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP :)))
>>52695481
Latin where?The only thing more latin at italians is the zone they live
>>52695505
>you can't read latin
how do you know?
as far asi know numerous Popes called us the only romans descendents
>>52695506
interestingly Romania is the only statal latin formation that was formed by romans and thus only us can claim we are romans, all the others were formed by german populations.
>>52695547
>I love turkish music and Turkey has a rich history. It's a shame about Islam but Turkey will always be superior to Romania.
it's pretty retarded that you keep talking about how great the Romans were when Islam eclipsed all their achievements. It's not even close.
Stop bullying Ros lads
Wtf at the Canadian muh heritage that talks bullshit here
We had enough Dacian memeposting th last days
>>52695583
>muh genetics
Italy never got de-latinized. It's been latin since the time of Augustus. When will you learn?
See >>52694161 >>52694529 >>52695196
I don't even click on your silly genetic maps. They're irrelevant.
>>52695583
>how do you know?
Because you can't easily read this and naturally sound fluent like us italians can:
In principio creavit Deus caelum et terram. Terra autem erat inanis et vacua, et tenebrae super faciem abyssi, et spiritus Dei ferebatur super aquas. Dixitque Deus: “Fiat lux”. Et facta est lux. Et vidit Deus lucem quod esset bona et divisit Deus lucem ac tenebras. Appellavitque Deus lucem Diem et tenebras Noctem. Factumque est vespere et mane, dies unus.
>the only romans descendents
pic related, see >>52692190
>>52695681
>jihading your way all over deserts makes you superior to the romans
kekkity kek, see >>52694667
Romanian is the closest to ancient latin.Stop your gelous and insecure attempt.Not only that but after living with barbarians for thousands of years our grammar is closer than that of italian, who lived in centre of Roman Empire.
No doubt.So close that the immigrants here could learn romanian and trick others that its latin
>>52695547
thanks lad, hope all of us can get better in future.
>>52695617
So what?Besides north italy which mixed wth gauls and germans rest of the italy is very italic.Before roman conquests in italy, other italian states spoke different languages you know?They were still latin and genetically closer to romans than romanians.
>>52695681
Tbh land mass is irrelevant.Medditerenean coasts are more important than, conquerering a sand town.
>>52695688
>muh heritage
I've been here for 3 years, I'm not one of the ''''''''''italian''''''''''-american clowns who can't speak a word of italian. I'll be leaving Canada very soon.
>>52695812
>Besides north italy
LMAO South is not even european genetically speaking.They are a mix of greeks,n.africans and berbers + arabs tribes.Look up, proven genetically and historically,ltierally Italians wiki.
>>52695807
>this level of delusion
>>52695792
>>jihading your way all over deserts makes you superior to the romans
No but building and maintaining a bigger empire than the Romans ever have is. We're not talking about the mongols, idiot. The Abassaids and Ottomans both outlasted and defeated what remained of the romans, they were a shit empire.
>>52695885
you cant prove otherwise.
That romanians is closer to latin than italian is a linguistical FACT.
>>52695876
>South is not even european genetically speaking
I haven't seen a proof that south italy is invaded by arabs or all of them attended arabic orgies.Their genetic is close to greeks which is very expected.
>>52695812
>Tbh land mass is irrelevant.Medditerenean coasts are more important than, conquerering a sand town.
You have it the other way around, the ME had several kingdoms, ancient civilizations while Europe was a bunch of tribal clannish niggers running around. The Europeans were the easy pickings, not Middle East, all the way to the indian kush and Visigoth territory.
>>52695914
Controlling the mediterranean world is more important.
>>52695876
See >>52695724
>>52695962
GO TO WIKIPEDIA LINK OF ITALIANS
also even if they are greeks those nulls their pretentions to romans as greeks @= romans so GG
>>52695940
See >>52692094
Your language doesn't even sound neo-latin. Sorry, dacoboy.
>>52696001
1.Your langauge is not closer to latin in grammar than romanian.
2.Proto-romanian was closest language to latin
3.Genetically you are not what ancient italians were formed of
>>52696038
you are right, we are latin.
>>52696001
>Controlling the mediterranean world is more important.
it's not, most of the mediterranean was not composed of cities and kingdoms like the Middle East.
>>52695975
Dude I already know that, what I'm saying just because you have more landmass that does not make you automatcally better.
>>52696012
>ctrl+f arab orgies
>0 matches
>ctrl+f southern italy looking for arab invasion
>besides sicilia literally nothing
So, what is the average romanian's opinion on Vlad the Impaler? Wasn't he basically the Che Guevara of his time?
>>52696061
>muh closest
Reminder that they spoke VULGAR LATIN.
>we are latin
You aren't. You've been cucked linguistically and culturally. You will never be part of the real neo-latin ''Italy, Spain, Portugal and France'' group. Sorry dacoboy.
>>52696038
Priscus of Panium [18]
In 545, Procopius of Caesarea mentions[not in citation given] [19] "The trick played by an Ant from present-day Moldavia who is supposed to have passed himself off as a Byzantine General by speaking a form of Latin which he had learned in these regions."
At the Nicaean Synod in 787, the following person is signaled on the 73rd seat: “Ursus Avaritianensium ecclesiae episcopus.” [20] The name of the episcope of the Avaritians (i.e. people ruled by the Avars), being Ursus, is of Romanic origin. [21]
Lmao this was 105 years afte romanian formed so proto-romanian is closest thing to latin.
>>52696089
they got in from greeks
also there is nothing to discuss
North Italians and South italians have genetics that ancient italians did not have.
Ancient Italians were a mix of E,G and I
>>52696139
You have 5 minutes to prove that italian is closer to latin in grammar than romanian.Also prove that your language is older than ours.
>>52696089
>Dude I already know that, what I'm saying just because you have more landmass that does not make you automatically better.
More landmass, population and civilized territories sure does. On every metric it's better.
>>52696219
the clock is ticking.3 more minutes
Antonio Bonfini wrote: “Because the Romanians are descendants of the Romans, a fact that even today is attested by their language, a language that, even though they are surrounded by diverse barbarian peoples, could not be destroyed.... even if all kinds of barbarian attacks flooded over the province of Dacia and the Roman people, we can see that the Roman colonies and legions that had been established there could not be annihilated” [25]
In 1532, Francesco della Valle (Secretary of Aloisio Gritti, a natural son to Doge Andrea Gritti) [50] wrote: "the emperor Trajan, after conquering this country, divided it among his soldiers and made it into a Roman colony, so that these Romanians are descendants, as it is said, of these ancient colonists, and they preserve the name of the Romans" [25]
Despot Voda(Heraclit) wrote in 1561: "they are a brave people of a warrior race, descendants of the illustrious Romans, who made the world tremor"
>>52696169
>>52696219
Also:
>Romanian is a part of the Balkan-Romance group that evolved from several dialects of Vulgar Latin separated from the Western Romance during the 5th-8th centuries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_language
You can stop the whole ''owa language be older n sheit'' now.
>>52696272
Our language is attested in 5th, by the oldest documents founds.When is italian? :))
>>52696268
Hungarian historian András Huszti affirms, in his posthumous work, also dated 1791: “No other nation has a language as similar to Latin as the Vlachs. This is a sure sign which cannot deceive us that they are the followers of the old Roman colonies in Transylvania.” [25]
>>52696305
See what?You have 2 more minutes to prove that:
italian has closer grammar to latin than romanian
proto-romanian is not the closest language to latin
2 MORE MINUTES
>>52696232
On coastal areas and in europe generally there were more people per acre.Because besides coast in north africa there is pretty much nothing.And in arabia cities are distant from each other and population was probably lower due to infertile lands.I'm not westernboo or claiming europeans better btw, just don't have an idea why do you claim landmass is very important.
>>52695681
Conquering piles of sand isn't an achievement mohammad.
>>52696358
>Conquering piles of sand isn't an achievement mohammad.
as opposed to conquering forests?
>>52696355
whole of persia was taken m8, that's a whole civilization on its own.
>>52696339
t. speaker of a language which doesn't even sound neo-latin
>b-but muh grammar
>>52696446
OK
Time's up
What we know untill now as facts:
>proto-romanian was closest thing to latin
>romanian is closer than italian in grammar to latin
>romanian are the roman colonists brought by Trajan
>italians in North are a mix of western europeans
>italians in South can't even be considered white
>an butthurt italian claims that they are romans because they live in ex-roman land
>>52696421
I know, but most of the inner arabia has pretty much nothing.And as you said it's important because the civilization not the landmass.
József Benko writes in 1777: “What remains of the Roman colonists who mixed with others are the Romanians.”
The English historian Gibbon writes in “Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” in 1777 that after the withdrawal of the Roman legions from Dacia, done by Aurelian, a significant part of the province’s population stayed behind, being more afraid of moving than of Gothic rule. Later, he adds “These people became a great nation” and then writes “The Vlachs preserve many elements from Latin, and they are proud of their Roman heritage. Even surrounded, they did not mix with the barbarians.”
>>52696462
>>>>>italians in South can't even be considered white
t./pol/ pro
>>52696552
non-pink nipples = nonwhite
>>52696462
>proto-romanian was closest thing to latin
See >>52696272
>muh grammar
Unimportant when your language sounds like turkish.
>romanian are the roman colonists brought by Trajan
A lie.
>italians in North are a mix of western europeans
>italians in South can't even be considered white
Irrelevant memeing.
>buttdevastated turd worlder calling me butthurt
pic related
>claims that they are romans
Uh? The only romans today are the italians from the city of Rome.
>>52696501
>muh 18th century commentaries
pic related
>>52696586
post nipples, and write a true roman in yur belly and timestamp pls.
>>52696499
>Egypt
>Persia
>Levant (Phoneticians)
>Mesopotamia
>Libyans
>Carthage
>Berbers
>Visigoth
>Armenia
>Turks and Indians
Whereas in Europe there are a bunch of tribes everywhere and no cities. except half populated ones in greece, the mainlands.
>>52696612
I'd rather have him do something that's actually relevant such as reading:
In principio creavit Deus caelum et terram. Terra autem erat inanis et vacua, et tenebrae super faciem abyssi, et spiritus Dei ferebatur super aquas. Dixitque Deus: “Fiat lux”. Et facta est lux. Et vidit Deus lucem quod esset bona et divisit Deus lucem ac tenebras. Appellavitque Deus lucem Diem et tenebras Noctem. Factumque est vespere et mane, dies unus.
and record his voice with vocaroo or clyp.it to prove that he can naturally sound fluent reading latin since his language is apparently ''true latin''.
>>52696501
German historian Leopold von Ranke: “Dacia was organized into a Roman province. The indigenous Romanians give the name, even today, of “The path of Trajan” to the road which leads into Transylvania, and call Turnu Rosu “The Roman gate”. They are what remains of Trajan’s colonists brought into Dacia.” [53]
Hungarian Gábor Fábián writes in the ethnography of Arad in 1835: “The Romanians are the oldest people here, and if it is true that they are the colonists of Dacia after Trajan’s conquest, then they can be considered as the aboriginals of this comitat”
>>52696599
Proto-romanian is closest thing to latin and you can't disprove it, stop changing the subject.
Also we have the closest grammar to latin and how comes that italian even tough it had no slav/german/turk/mongol invasions HAS A WEAKER GRAMMAR?
>>52696636
Dude are you even listening to me?I was agreed with that point.
>>52696659
Come on let's make him post nipples
>>52696667
>Proto-romanian is closest thing to latin
See >>52696272
Do you expect anyone to believe that vulgar latin magically stopped being spoken in Iberia, Gaul and Italy and that it was magically replaced by an alien language with no relation to latin? Seek mental help.
>>52696728
your language has relations but even close to what we have.Proof is that your langauge ven tough surrounded by other romance langauges, didnt keep its grammar while we did, even tough we were under slavic.german,turk,mongol etc invasions
And why you keep linking to >>52696272 ?
What is the point?
If anything it proves that romanian is older than your bastard language.
>this triggers the italians
>>52696777
>If anything it proves that romanian is older than your bastard language.
No. It shows that it evolved from several dialects of Vulgar Latin, same as other romance languages. What are you calling a bastard language? Italian? Yours evolved the same except the fact that it later got cucked hard, see >>52692094 and stop playing dumb.
>>52696847
This pic is cringeworthy, try again.
>>52696911
cucked WAY harder and still the closest in grammar, which means its closest to latin.You can borrow 100000 words but the grammar is what makes the language kid.
Ours evolved the first and even so we kept the most.
STAY MAD
>>52696972
>the grammar is what makes the language kid
No. It's the words and the phonetics. Once again, your language sounds like turkish and it will never be considered as part of the ''Italian, Spanish, Portuguese and French'' group. Sorry.
>>52697016
lmao you even lack basic linguistic facts
HAHAHAAH
look at you
so desperate
Kid there is a reason why you can't prove that proto-romanian wasnt closest to latin.Because lingusits alreadya rgued and agreed it is.
STAY MAD
Hungarian historian András Huszti affirms, in his posthumous work, also dated 1791: “No other nation has a language as similar to Latin as the Vlachs. This is a sure sign which cannot deceive us that they are the followers of the old Roman colonies in Transylvania.” [25]
Antonio Bonfini wrote: “Because the Romanians are descendants of the Romans, a fact that even today is attested by their language, a language that, even though they are surrounded by diverse barbarian peoples, could not be destroyed.... even if all kinds of barbarian attacks flooded over the province of Dacia and the Roman people, we can see that the Roman colonies and legions that had been established there could not be annihilated” [25]
Priscus of Panium [18]
In 545, Procopius of Caesarea mentions[not in citation given] [19] "The trick played by an Ant from present-day Moldavia who is supposed to have passed himself off as a Byzantine General by speaking a form of Latin which he had learned in these regions."
At the Nicaean Synod in 787, the following person is signaled on the 73rd seat: “Ursus Avaritianensium ecclesiae episcopus.” [20] The name of the episcope of the Avaritians (i.e. people ruled by the Avars), being Ursus, is of Romanic origin. [21]
Lmao this was 105 years afte romanian formed so proto-romanian is closest thing to latin.
>>52697106
>proto-romanian is closest thing to latin
See >>52696272 >>52696911
Stay salty dacoboy.
>>52697216
lmao YOU CAN'T LTIERALLY PROVE ANYTHING
HAHAHAA
you keep linking me to the wikipedia which even states taht we are the oldest romance language
BTFO
>be italin
>be one of the last to have romance language
HAHAHAHAAHH
Italian names: Andrea,MARCO,Francesco,Luca,Matteo,Gianni,Alessandro,Davide,Lorenzo,Federico,Stefano,Riccardo,Giuseppe
Romanian names:Andrei,Remus,Laurentiu,Traian,Claudiu,Aurel,Stefan,Razvan,Alin,Robert,Silviu,Dragos,Dorin,Iulia,Andrea,Stefania,Diana,Bianca
italian:sei italiano?
romanian:esti roman?
you
cant
make
this
shit
up
>>52697349
>making shit up
>mad as fuck
Andrea = Andreas (latin)
Marco = Marcus (latin)
Francesco = Franciscus (latin)
Luca = Loukas (greek)
Matteo = Matthaios (greek)
Gianni = Iohannes (greek)
Alessandro = Alexander (latin)/Alexandros (greek)
Davide = Dawid (hebrew)
Lorenzo = Laurentius (latin)
Federico = Fredrick (germanic)
Stefano = Stephanos (greek)
Riccardo = Richard (germanic)
Giuseppe = Ioseph (greek)
Funny how you chose words of mostly foreign origin such as biblical ones. I could make an enormous list of italian names of latin origin and make you shit your pants.
PS: Romanian names are ugly as fuck and don't sound as latin as you think they do.
>>52697349
>that cherrypicking for the romanian names
holy shit
>>52697608
>hurr we iz called roman so we iz roman
See >>52692190 and also >>52694161
>>52697966
First links to Romania but our country is not called Romania and does not derive from romans.Our country is called România and derives from Tara Româneasca
2nd links to etruscans who you have no connection, and to italic population who have no connection with romans, stated clearely there, they ar an amalgam of populations, even stated by genetics.
>>52697819
still our names are more latin
>>52697924
not cherrypicking.
Our ex-president of 8 years was called Traian, and i also forgot Cesar, which is VERY common here, same for Remus and even Romulus to an extent.
Didnt know about Roman emperors with Riccardo,Giuseppe,Stefano,Gianni,Davide,Federico,Matteo,Francessco,Luca etc
HAHAHAHA
GG kid now i have to go cya
>>52698124
>hurr it's not Romania, it's România durr
Full retard.
>and to italic population who have no connection with romans
Italy became fully romanized, see >>52694161
and stop the memeing.
>still talking about biblical names
You should stop embarrassing yourself.
Romanian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pMlXyzpwxA
Doesn't sound neo-latin AT ALL and is NEVER EVER EVER confused with latin as you pathetically tried to convince me earlier in the thread.
Here's italian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttAy5UrNqgA
UN.MIS.TA.KA.BLY. NEO-LATIN.
That's right, run away, silly dacoboy.
>>52698440
>Full retard.
are you dumb?You dont think how i know my country is called?
We are România, Romania is what english call us
https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rom%C3%A2nia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania
Second you are linking a singer to a politician who uses more formal words, most of them being latin.
Third you dont have the grammar or the topic latin has, we do.
/thread
latin is romanian language accoding to the Pope consiglier :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T5Afl-yxa8
>>52698708
The language called "Romanian" is a Carpathic language that was spoken in that area way before Latin. Any linguist dedicating a bit of time studying the Latin languages and the history of the Roman Empire will quickly reach to the conclusion that "Romanian" has been spoken in the Carpathians before the Rome had been built. (Just don't expect to find the same language like the contemporary one, but the root of the majority of words and the grammatical structure is the same).
>>52698756
– „Dacians know me, they speak a barbarous language, the Latin idioma” – Horace ( Quintus Horatius Flaccus,8 December 65 BC – 27 November 8 BC ), the great Roman poet – Odes,I,20, statement made nearly a century and a half before the conquest of a part of Dacia.
>>52698633
>uses more formal words, most of them being latin
These words sound the same as those that we use everyday. Because unlike you, we weren't cucked linguistically.
Here's average young italians speaking normally:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe7LxAt9D3U
Still sounds extremely neo-latin to ANYONE, unlike romanian which doesn't sound neo-laitn AT ALL.
>>52698708
>latin is romanian
Kek. This literally makes no sense. How stupid are you? Anyways, see >>52696272 >>52692094
>>52698803
neo-latin is similar to saying bastard of latin
italians are a mix of population from every corner of the world speaking a neo-latin language while romanians are a thraco-latin population speaking a latin language
>Kek. This literally makes no sense
– „Dacians know me, they speak a barbarous language, the Latin idioma” – Horace ( Quintus Horatius Flaccus,8 December 65 BC – 27 November 8 BC ), the great Roman poet – Odes,I,20, statement made nearly a century and a half before the conquest of a part of Dacia.
>>52698756
>The language called "Romanian" is a Carpathic language that was spoken in that area way before Latin
>>52698865
>neo-latin is similar to saying bastard of latin
See >>52696911
>muh genetics
lmao
>>52698890
http://www.antimoon.com/forum/t9520.htm
>>52698940
your language is not closer to latin than ours and genetically you are not romans, so what is your argument of italians being roman, the fact that you live where romans did?KEK
>>52698633
>uses more formal words, most of them being latin
lmao, pretty much all italian words are descendants of latin ones. ''formal words'' don't sound more latin than ''non-formal words''. We weren't cucked linguistically and culturally like you, silly dacoboy. See >>52692094 >>52693795 >>52696272
Your pathetic turd world country shouldn't even exist, same as ''Macedonia''.
>>52699052
answer >>52698991
also see this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZRBg1SMnog
>>52698961
I'm not going to visit that shitty forum.
>>52698991
>muh genetics
LMAO
>your argument of italians being roman
Keep playing dumb. I've said a million times and I'll say it again, the only romans today are the italians from the city of Rome.
The ancient italian romans are still modern italians' forefathers.
When will you accept reality?
>>52699100
>Documentary Romania: The Cradle of Civilization
>>52699110
WHAT IS YOUR ARGUMENT OF YOU BEING ROMANS EXCEPT LIVING WHERE ROMANS DID?
you doged this question all the thread
>>52699162
thats actually a documentary made by brits and its all physically documented
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin%C4%8Da_culture
>>52699249
>Documentary Romania: The Cradle of Civilization
>this shitalian leaf diaspora again
man it feels good to know we make people mad out there
>>52700595
>turdworlder romani calling the country which gave Europe the Renaissance ''shit''
>>52700756
that's why you're in canda leeching on their welfare you lazy shit
>>52701017
>projecting this hard
