The bone structure [of the oldest human remains found in Australia] had a gracile character, which contrasts with the morphology of modern indigenous Australians.[9] Subsequent studies using the length of limb bones to estimate LM3's height, suggest a height of 196 centimetres (77 inches or 6 ft 5 in), a height that is unsually tall for modern Aboriginal males.[13]
The bones were unconditionally repatriated in 1992 to the traditional owners, an alliance called the Three Traditional Tribal Groups (3TTG), consisting of the Paakantji, the Mathi Mathi, and the Ngiyampaa. LM1 had become a symbol of the long Aboriginal occupation in Australia, and an important icon for both archaeologists and indigenous Australians. Very limited detailed information was published before the bones were unconditionally repatriated to the Indigenous people of Australia in 1992.
>conclusion: Abos are frauds.
>50000 AD
>Sino-Martian colonists in Scandinavia will find OPs skeleton
>Muslim """natives"" will claim it as their ancestor and chinks will hand it over
no idiot
conclusion
dwindling population causes excessive genetic mutation due to lack of variation
therefore abo had genetic bottleneck prehistorically
god!
>>52637318
Why ''''natives''''? Do you know for how long Scandinavia has been inhabited? Compare that number to fifty thousand years of muslims occupation and you'll realize that the muslims would end up being more native.
Also
>implying Abrahamic religions won't die out in the next century
>>52637442
>Abrahamic religions
>dying out
Silly goy/heathen/kuffat.
>>52637413
Plausible. However, one cant help but speculate that this may have been the same race as the "red haired giants" of China and North America. Amerindians tell of an earlier population of very tall red haired people. When skeletons and mummies have been found matching these claims, they almost always get claimed by amerindians who probably fear losing their status as "natives".
To put things in proportion, an average abo would have been around 140cm tall before modern nutrition, a native american slightly taller. A race of people that were around 2m tall on average would have been considered 'giants' at the time.
>>52638268
no, too much speculation
you don't realize it but based on that single evidence to assume that there is a replacement is too speculative, there is no real world comparison because australia is well out of the way
their morphology clearly points generational interbreeding and inherited genetic disorder
occams razor here does not apply in the way you think
that it must take all possible causes
you have to figure out who was replace when how and why or at least have a theory then compare to the genetic cataclysm one and see which is more likely
>>52638268
>"red haired giants"
>>52637442
Doesn't native define "first"? Are you saying that if you kill your first nations, and Indians (from India) live in Canada for 10k years into the future, they become native Americans?
>>52638521
Well my entire speculation is based on
A: The bizarre height of the native American, east Asian and Australian remains
B: The supposed time they lived (before the current populations)
C: The fact the natives described the 'giants' as almost caucasoid, matching the abo skeleton
D: The fact the negritos the abos descend from, as well as their other heritage group the denisovas, don't at all match the skeleton
F: The fact that all of these mummies have been reclaimed by "natives" shortly after discovery, suggesting the natives too found it likely they weren't the same 'race' (if they thought they were, wouldn't they want scientists to definitely prove they've inhabited their current area for a very long time?)
It's not all too unlikely that an earlier, small, possibly inbred group of some kind of tall fair skinned homo sapiens briefly occupied the region of south east Asia, that has since been all but mixed out and replaced by later migration.
>>52638699
Is what they're called by native Americans, who describe them as hostile tribes that the native Americans defeated long ago. There's many paintings of them. Later recollections and folklore are more imaginative though, with actual giants, sometimes cannibals. The remains have been around 2m tall (gigantic to the 145cm long natives) and with mostly red hair (although certain hair colours turn red over time).
Either these could have been an inbred caucasoid-ish race (possibly uralic, today the udmurts are very often red haired), or another HSS group. There are a few African tribes that are strikingly long and slender without modern diets. If these would have moved too fast away from Africa, it is likely they would have developed red hair instead of blonde as an evolutionary adaptation to less sunlight.
>>52639275
>The remains have been around 2m tall (gigantic to the 145cm long natives) and with mostly red hair
[citation needed]
>>52639275
you must make the connection and build on it
it's the second part of being able to have something to work with
otherwise we are just questioning reality
no need to be afraid of being wrong, the point is if there is a cause to be curious about something maybe there is something to it
>>52639404
I must add, the reason why I don't want to guess is because there isn't enough data
even if there are remains they are just anomalies
and the tarim mummies do have a culture they belong to
so what are the evidence that the tarim mummies are the same as the storied ameriindian one and the non-reachable abo one
and their dates are out of sync the abo one is what 40,k and the tarim mummy is less than 1 mil bc
that's not around the same time
Genocide when?
>>52639371
"Subsequent studies using the length of limb bones to estimate LM3's height, suggest a height of 196 centimetres (77 inches or 6 ft 5 in), a height that is unsually tall for modern Aboriginal males.[13]"
I mean really, the citation was in the OP. Or are you asking about the height of native Americans about 10 000 years ago? Because that's trickier to source. We know that the plains indians were notably large for their time once they had acquired gupowder weapons and European horses, standing on average 172.6 centimetres tall -- about 5 feet 8 inches, in the early 1900's. These were notably larger than most natives that lived more traditional lifestyles. If we assume that these plains peoples followed a similar pattern to Europeans, their height 10 000 years prior, with less food and deviating genomes, would be markedly shorter, about 150cm, or 140-ish if we take a rough 20cm (matching European progress) off the average non-plains native Americans.
Like I said, the "red haired giants" may not have been that tall by modern standards, but for a native American with an average height of about 150cm, they would have been enormous.
Also, although I can't find any averages for prehistoric native american average heights, I did find loads of anecdotal remains wherein all males are around 150cm long. Google it, spam filter etc.
so are native american indians. they came from asia and genocided the original people from the pacific islands.
>>52639404
>>52639851
Yes, I am just wildly speculating t b h... And the tarims are markedly different yes and too off in terms of time, but not the nevada mummies and the native american tales of the red haired giants. The height and the skeleton structure is the most striking similarity. And why I drew the connection is because a slender 2m long HSS would be bizarrely abnormal for an abo or native American at the time...
>>52640074
Supposedly yes. Or they mixed with them. Their nose shape can't really be explained by either though. The only 'races' to share such noses are caucasoids. It is theorized that the later native americans that killed or mixed with the 'polynesian' earlier Americans were a mix of asiatics and uralic caucasoid siberians.
>>52640074
Interesting to note however is that a similar strategy has been applied by the native Americans. Whenever polynesian or "red haired giant" looking remains are found, the native Americans demand them immediately and bury them shortly there after, preventing further research that could prove the native Americans aren't the first Americans.
>>52640040
Your copied and pasted text in the OP is not sourced.
>>52637167
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec6_1451008938
pls help me spread this vid to any thread related to australia. The worlds needs to know what they are really like.
>>52640319
you shouldn't use what the native americans do or abo do as evidence of some conspiracy and use it in some explanation for something else
that's to imply they know something so this begs the question of why not just ask them
All people change morphologically throughout time.
>>52640838
Also, one archeological site measures exactly that - one site.
>giant louis ck appear in australia
>gets cucked
>his race disappear
>>52640438
Google it? Just ctrl+c ctrl+v the text, it leads to the source, with secondary source reference.
>>52640486
She has a somewhat similar accent to some SAs tb h
>>52640522
Well it is a 'conspiracy' of sorts if you will. Scientists find remains, scientists note the remains are probably not the same 'race' as the people who currently claim to be 'natives', the 'natives' get scared and immediately ask for the remains and bury them so no more research can be done.
The natives don't know more than anyone else, and anyone else also knows that the remains based on ocular inspection don't look native.
All I'm saying is the natives are as unsure of the scientists of the ethnicity of the remains, and they sure don't want the scientists to conclude the natives aren't native. That would ruin their community. Hence they bury the remains before anyone can research them properly out of fear what the 'wrong' conclusions would mean for the natives.
>>52640243
Tarim mummies are just Tocharians, nothing too mystical about them. Their ancestors migrated to China from the Proto-Indo-European homeland at the border of Russia and Kazakhstan.
>white people being like WE WUZ ABORIGINALS AND NATIVE AMERICANS AND SHIT
ffs
>>52640838
>>52640879
Yes but denisovas and negritos, close relatives of the abos, don't match the skeleton at all. It would have had to be a very sick abo if it is one, or for some reason over a period of about 10k years (when the next remains are found), the abos, who had just evolved into slender tall people, suddenly reverse evolved into borderline pygmy broad bodied people again.
>>52640910
Pretty much. Probably a small and rather inbred group, highly susceptible to vit D deficiency and stuff. A few could have been killed, a few could have been cucked, a few could have starved out when the later migrants stole their food sources.
Also, they weren't giant unless you consider hulk hogan a giant.
>>52640977
>Google it?
Done. Pic related.
When you post some text you're supposed to provide an easily accessible and reliable source.
I'm waiting.
>>52641080
They were described as red haired. That can mean anything from demelanated negroes to tall asiatics to siberian uralics to other caucasoids etc. And they weren't aborigines or native Americans, they would just have been a small group of hunter gatherers that lived there before said populations.
>>52640977
>She has a somewhat similar accent to some SAs tb h
when you put the sound on mute she looks kinda swedish
>>52641080
>not wanting to be a precolonial or early colonial Abo
Have you seen the film The Tracker? Fuckers could spot a footprint among nigh identical pebbles on the desert floor from many feet away. They were masters of survival and geography, as also evidenced by their 'dreamtime' paintings, which were actually bird's eye view maps of food and water sources.
>>52641174
You want an internet baby sitter because google is too hard for you?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Mungo_remains#Morphology
http://fnpw.org.au/cultural-heritage/indigenous-cultural-heritage/mungo-archaeological-digs
>>52641222
That's racist. A swede can have any colour.
>>52641288
>That's racist. A swede can have any colour.
SWEDEN
YES
This reminds me of polfags who would talk about the red haired Easter Islanders and talk about the Caucasoid race but it never crossed their mind to reference actual data and recognize that slacked lime was used to alter hair color to a red to blonde tone.
>>52641288
So your claims are based on 3 (three) bodies that were found at the Lake Mungo and who are believed to have lived between 40,000 and 68,000 years ago, during the Pleistocene epoch.
Ok.
>>52641359
Fuck off Easter Islanders were white before they mixed with Chileans. Ancient descriptions prove it.
>>52637167
>talks about phrenology
>ignores dna
pol
>>52641439
the skeletons are not available for testing
the natives have taken them
>>52641282
The 'red haired giants' were not abos just because they may have reached Australia before the abos did, provided they even existed at all.
Also caucasoids made maps 20k years ago, and those are proven to be maps, not just 'theories'...
>>52641359
There's a slight difference between dying your hair with lime and being 2m tall and slender.
Fun fact tho: in early ancient Egypt, red hair was considered a sign that you were descended of the sun god, and the early pharaohs p much were required to be natty gingers. It is theorized the rampant inbreeding was in part done in an effort to produce more ginger kings.
The status of red hair has led to that to this day, some African tribes still dye their hair red with cow urine.
>>52641396
What? Have you been following the thread? I claimed there are abnormal remains found in some areas, not that "lol it is a commonly known fact tall gingers ruled australia".
Just scroll up and read the thread you autistic sack of shit.
>>52641439
They took the skellys away m8. The moment the scientists suggest the skeletons don't look abo/native americans, suddenly natives are all "l-lol these are our ancestors we must bury them ASAP before research is done nothing to see here we were here first"
>>52641518
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Mungo_remains#Mitochondrial_DNA_and_origins
>>52641439
>>52641518
>Comparison of the mitochondrial DNA with that of ancient and modern Aborigines has indicated that Mungo Man is not related to Australian Aborigines. The results indicated that Mungo Man was an extinct subspecies that diverged before the most recent common ancestor of contemporary humans. These results, if correct, may support the multiregional origin of modern humans hypothesis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Mungo_remains#Mitochondrial_DNA_and_origins
In other words, they weren't even human so OP wuzn't aboriginal and sheit.
Nice try OP.
/thread
>>52641644
But then it says
>These claims are both scientifically and politically controversial and have been met with a general lack of acceptance in scientific communities, the sequence is criticized as there has been no independent testing and some of these differences may be due to posthumous modification and thermal degradation of the DNA.[8][24][25][26][27]
My final thoughts for this shitshow of a thread: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor
>>52641644
but don't you want to know how they got there
even if they aren't human
>>52641609
>muh ginger Egyptians
Mummification practices and dyeing of hair:
>Hair studies of mummies note that color is often influenced by environmental factors at burial sites. Brothwell and Spearman (ref in Fletcher's works-1963) point out that reddish-brown ancient color hair is usually the result of partial oxidation of the melanin pigment. Other causes of hair color "blonding" involve bleaching, caused by the alkaline in the mummification process. Color also varies due to the Egyptian practice of dyeing hair with henna. Other samples show individuals lightening the hair using vegetable colorants. Thus variations in hair color among mummies do not necessarily suggest the presence of blond or red-haired Europeans or Near Easterners flitting about Egypt before being mummified, but the influence of environmental factors.
Egyptian practice of putting locks of hair in mummy wrappings:
>Racial analysis is also made problematic by the Egyptian practice of burying hair, in many "votive or funerary deposits buried separately from the body, a practice found from Predynastic to Roman times despite its frequent omission from excavation reports." (Fletcher 2002) In examining hair samples Fletcher (2004) notes that care is needed to determine what is natural scalp hair, versus hair from a wig, versus hair extensions to natural locks. Tracking the exact source of hair is also critical since the Egyptians were known to have placed locks of hair from different sources among mummy wrappings.
(The Search for Nefertiti, By Joann Fletcher, HarperCollins, 2004, p. 93-94, 96; Joann Fletcher, ANCIENT EGYPTIAN HAIR AND WIGS, THE OSTRACON THE JOURNAL OF THE EGYPTIAN STUDY SOCIETY, VOLUME 13, NUMBER 2; SUMMER 2002)
Pic related, peruvian mummies.
>>52641288
>That's racist. A swede can have any colour.
>>52641644
The canacuck has such poor reading comprehension he doesn't even realize he just pointed out evidence supporting my theory that these people were not abos at all, and were very possibly the same mysterious 'red haired giants' mentioned above.
Pro tip:
No one said I was an abo ginger 2ft tall man or whatever it is you've made up here, no one even said they had to be HSS. All we said was that a far fetched (not so with your evidence here) theory was that these were not Abos, may be connected to the red haired giants of north America, and that the abos shut down research to prevent us from learning definitively that abos were not the first Australians.
>>52641739
Yes, and of course another sample is impossible due to abo intervention. As for occams razor, the other theory would have to assume that negritos and denisovas merged, turned giant or got some sort of isolated gigantism within 10k years, and then within another 10k years turned from slender and tall to stubby and short abos again. Which is a lot more assumptions than "they were probably not the same group of people".
>>52641609
>caucasoids made maps 20k years ago
[citation needed]
>in early ancient Egypt, red hair was considered a sign that you were descended of the sun god
[citation needed]
>the early pharaohs much were required to be natty gingers
[citation needed]
>African tribes still dye their hair red with cow urine
Uh? They mostly use henna.
OP is full of shit.
>>52641960
>he doesn't even realize he just pointed out evidence supporting my theory
No it doesn't. You're the one with the awful reading comprehension. Read what I posted again instead of focusing on the words ''Mungo Man is not related to Australian Aborigines''.
I'm not even canadian, who are you calling a cuck, cucklord?
>>52641743
Depends on your definition of human. They walked on two legs, buried and cremated their dead, traded for ocra, and the DNA suggests they may be a different sub-species of Homo Sapiens. Aren't Homo Sapiens humans?
>>52641787
What the fuck are you even talking about? I said outright Egyptians used to dye their hair red because it was seen as divine and that this is still practised in Africa today. I also said in an above post that some hair colours turn red over time on corpses. Are you a butthurt nigger? All I said was that the early pharaohs, according to their scripture, were supposed to be born gingers because it was believed they were descendants of the sun god if they were gingers.
Let me guess, you're a negro afro-centrist who's projecting I claimed A: abos were white and B: all egyptians were white and hair dyes don't exist.
Smoke less meth you paranoid shithead.
>this thread
>>52642136
>I said outright Egyptians used to dye their hair red because it was seen as divine and that this is still practised in Africa today.
No you didn't. Why are you lying? You stated:
>>52641609
>Fun fact tho: in early ancient Egypt, red hair was considered a sign that you were descended of the sun god, and the early pharaohs p much were required to be natty gingers. It is theorized the rampant inbreeding was in part done in an effort to produce more ginger kings.
Which makes you imply that there were natural gingers and by ''produce more ginger kings'' you clearly mean natural gingers too. Stop playing dumb.
Also with:
>>52641609
>The status of red hair has led to that to this day, some African tribes still dye their hair red with cow urine.
You claim that those Africans were merely inspired by the ''superior gingers'' and colored their hair with ''cow urine'' (only the Dinkas of Southern Sudan do this and there are over three thousand African tribes) because they are the ''inferior Africans'' who looked up to your mythical ''ginger Egyptians''.
Read a book and stop embarassing yourself, you sound mentally ill.
>>52641961
citation 1:
A map-like representation of a mountain, river, valleys and routes around Pavlov in the Czech Republic has been dated to 25,000 BC,[6]
Another ancient picture that resembles a map was created in the late 7th millennium BC in Çatalhöyük, Anatolia, modern Turkey. This wall painting may represent a plan of this Neolithic village;[9]
Whoever visualized the Çatalhöyük "mental map" may have been encouraged by the fact that houses in Çatalhöyük were clustered together and were entered via flat roofs. Therefore, it was normal for the inhabitants to view their city from a bird's eye view.
Maps in Ancient Babylonia were made by using accurate surveying techniques.[11]
citation 2/3:
Microscopic inspection of the roots of Ramesses II's hair proved that the king's hair was originally red, which suggests that he came from a family of redheads.[68] This has more than just cosmetic significance: in ancient Egypt people with red hair were associated with the god Seth, the slayer of Osiris, and the name of Ramesses II's father, Seti I, means "follower of Seth."[69]
*according to my googling it seems the descendants of set, not ra, were supposed to be gingers? But really just google the shit yourself.
>Uh? They mostly use henna.
Not the dinka. But yes they use both.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tRzM2tZFng
Afro-centrist paranoid nigger please leave.
>>52642136
i feel eerie deja vu
anyway there is 3 very separate things here
1: the lake mungo are probably not abos, that's fine
2. but they are caucasoid
3. and three that they are related to the other odd ball ones
4 yet have had culture far earlier than normal locals
but are those things related
3 and 4 have to be but they hinge on the fact that to find this out they must be available to us
it is missing more than there is to tell
>>52642046
I know you're not canadian you're a negro or something. And what you said other than the mungo man not being abo is that he is potentially another subspecies of HSS, supporting both my claim hes not an abo, and that he might be related to the 'red haired giants' of north america.
Or wait, did you interpret it as me saying only modern caucasians can be tall, slender, or have possibly red hair? lel
>>52642444
>A map-like representation of a mountain, river, valleys and routes
>wall painting may represent a plan of this Neolithic village
Whoopty doo.
Next time you should be more precise instead of sounding like ''they used tah make maps n sheit'' which makes it sound like these ''maps'' are world maps and you know it.
>Microscopic inspection of the roots of Ramesses II's hair proved that the king's hair was originally red, which suggests that he came from a family of redheads.
The finding of Rameses "red" hair also deserves further scrutiny. The analysis found evidence of dyeing to make the hair yellowish-red, but some elements were untouched by the dye. These elements of yellowish-red hair in Balout's study, were established on the basis of the presence of pheomelanin, a red-brown polymeric pigment in the skin and hair of humans.
However, pheomelanin can also be found in persons with dark brown or even black hair as well, which gives it a reddish hue. Most natural melanins contain sulfur, which is typically associated with pheomelanin. In scientific tests of melanin, black hair contained as much as 5% sulfur, 3% lower than the 8.8% found in Irish red hair, but exceeding the 2.3% found in Scandinavian blond hair. (Jolles, et al. 1996) Thus the yellowish-red hair discovered on Rameses is well within the range of human variation for dark haired people, whatever the exact gene combination that led to the condition.
>>52637318
muslim will even claim clay penis as their ancestor
>>52642444
>he came from a family of redheads
During Rameses II's time there were quite a few foregin mercenaries settled amongst the autochtonous population in the Delta. Probabaly even some Hyksos people remained in the Delta and over the years a gradual migration of Canaanite people migrated into the Delta. We know as far back as the 12th dynasty that Southern Upper Egypt and the furthest part of the Delta was so distinct that people from the regions would not reognize themselves nor understand the speech of the people in Upper Egypt.
Rameses II's ancestors came from non-royal ancestry from a mercenary family that was promoted by Horemheb. We know that most of the mercenaries in Egyptian armies tended to be either Libyans, Canaanites and Nubians. Around this time quite a few Libyans migrated into the Delta often intermarrying with local Egyptian women and producing offsprings. Rameses II's Canaanite heritage is evident since one of his own daughters is named Bint Anath[Bint means daughter in Arabic],so it appears that his family's origins also included Canaanite elements.
So even if he was really naturally ginger (which he wasn't), he isn't in any way a good representative of the average ancient egyptian from his period.
Nice try.
>>52642380
>o you didn't. Why are you lying? You stated:
"The status of red hair has led to that to this day, some African tribes still dye their hair red with cow urine."
>(although certain hair colours turn red over time).
Did I state that? Oh, yes I did, didn't I?
>You claim that those Africans were merely inspired by the ''superior gingers''
How much meth have you been smoking my autistic negro friend? I claimed that it was seen as good to have red hair, dyed or not (I explicitly mentioned dyes). Hear that dog outside? Probably a police dog. They're coming for you. There's five people looking at you right now. Paranoia is fun.
>because they are the ''inferior Africans'' who looked up to your mythical ''ginger Egyptians''.
>you sound mentally ill.
projecting 101
>>52642463
>2. but they are caucasoid
No, red hair=/=caucasoid. I suggested they might be related to the red haired 'giants' in north America due to their similar bizarre body shape and height. You don't think what might be another HS sub-species could have red hair? You don't have to be a modern Caucasian to have red hair...
And reason I connected them with the NA red hair giants was because they're the only humans outside of Africa I have heard of with such extreme average heights so far ago... The odds of two separate really tall slender groups that have taken the same migration route seems less likely to me...
>>52642444
>Not the dinka
The Dinka is one tribe out of more than three thousands in Africa. Your claim that ''African tribes (plural) dye their hair with cow urine to make it red because they look up to the superior ginger ancient egyptians'' is both a lie, insanity and no amount of silly name-calling such as:
>>52642136
>you're a negro afro-centrist
>>52642444
>Afro-centrist paranoid nigger
>>52642528
>you're a negro or something
will make your claims reality.
Seek mental help.
>>52642860
>I claimed that it was seen as good to have red hair
By who, starting from when and why?
>>52642602
Are you the same insane person posting vulgar bullshit in Sverigetråden?
>Next time you should be more precise instead of sounding like ''they used tah make maps n sheit'' which makes it sound like these ''maps'' are world maps and you know it.
What the fuck? We were talking about hypothetical abo maps to water sources. Why are you so paranoid/insane?
>These elements of yellowish-red hair in Balout's study
This was a study summary by Bob Brier which examines a multitude of hypotheses including Balouts study. He was also described and depicted as a red head in contemporary sources.
>Most natural melanins contain sulfur, which is typically associated with pheomelanin.
That is a secondary assumption not concordant with direct research constructed specifically to dismiss the validity of the source material suggesting he was a ginger. Occams razor vs. personal bias from you.
>>52643146
>Sverigetråden
I don't browse those generals since I can't speak or understand swedish.
>We were talking about hypothetical abo maps to water sources
Not at all. Why are you lying again?
First post:
>>52641080
A reply about aboriginals' survival skill:
>>52641282
Your butthurt reply to the previous reply:
>>52641609
>Also caucasoids made maps 20k years ago, and those are proven to be maps, not just 'theories'...
>>52639275
We were natives and stuff.
>>52643146
>He was also described and depicted as a red head in contemporary sources
[citation needed] (do not link me to marchofthetitans, thanks.)
Anyways, read this post: >>52642653
>>52642653
Canaanites at the time where much lighter than modern Syrians etc., due to the moorish expansion and the north African slave trade. At the time the egyptians explicitly depict them as red and dark brown haired. You're just proving my point.
>So even if he was really naturally ginger (which he wasn't), he isn't in any way a good representative of the average ancient egyptian from his period.
How paranoid can you get? When did I claim most egyptians were gingers? This was an anectode related to hair dyes, not a claim that egyptians were nordic gingers. Dense fuck projecting like mad.
>>52642865
>African tribes (plural) dye their hair with cow urine to make it red because they look up to the superior ginger ancient egyptians
Now you're making up quotes. You're actually making up quotes to make it seem like I said Egypt was made by 'superior gingers'.
Here's the real quote:
"The status of red hair has led to that to this day, some African tribes still dye their hair red with cow urine."
Does this claim the ancient Egyptians were predominantly ginger? That the gingers were superior? Does it claim ANY OF THE BULLSHIT THAT YOU'VE MADE UP HERE?
You want me to google one (1) more African tribe that explicitly uses cow urine for this task? Or can we just settle it by assuming that it is likely at least one (1) more African tribe uses cow urine instead of henna?
>insanity
takes one to know one
"silly claims"
Calling you paranoid is a silly claim when you've been assuming the most bizarre shit about evil white washing eurocentrist out to get you all along? That's paranoia m8.
>Seek mental help.
No. You.
>By who, starting from when and why?
I have already provided citation that it was believed the pharaoh with red hair was a descendant of set.
>>52643513
>Canaanites at the time where much lighter than modern Syrians etc., due to the moorish expansion and the north African slave trade
Have you ever opened a history book?
>When did I claim most egyptians were gingers?
>most
Not most but you implied that some were natural gingers with the end of this post:
>>52641609
>Fun fact tho: in early ancient Egypt, red hair was considered a sign that you were descended of the sun god, and the early pharaohs p much were required to be natty gingers. It is theorized the rampant inbreeding was in part done in an effort to produce more ginger kings.
>to produce more ginger kings.
>>52643513
>Does this claim the ancient Egyptians were predominantly ginger?
No and I never stated that you claimed this.
>That the gingers were superior?
Yes.
>Does it claim ANY OF THE BULLSHIT THAT YOU'VE MADE UP HERE?
Yes the bullshit is contained in your posts.
>more African tribe that explicitly uses cow urine for this task?
Go ahead because I only know of the Dinkas and you claimed that their practice of hair dyeing with cow urine was a result of their contact with your mythical ''superior ginger egyptians who were natural gingers'' and so you're implying that as a result of this contact, the inferior silly Sub-Saharans started pouring cow urine on their heads.
Either be more precise when you post or stop talking out of your ass.
>the pharaoh with red hair
Maybe some greek ptolemies but there weren't any Bronze Age egyptians with natural red hair.
>>52643335
>I don't browse those generals since I can't speak or understand swedish.
Exactly, you post vulgar shit in english and then leave. Canadian flag, claims "I'm not canadian", either it's you or its another insane "not canadian" person.
>Not at all. Why are you lying again?
I replied:
>Also caucasoids made maps 20k years ago, and those are proven to be maps, not just 'theories'...
To the post where the 'theories' were
>as also evidenced by their 'dreamtime' paintings, which were actually bird's eye view maps of food and water sources.
So yeah, yet another case where you assumed evil whitewashing eurocentrist was claiming caucasian master race made world map before he even saw Europe, when in reality I was clearly saying caucasoids made local maps in reply to a czech guy claiming it was a magnificent feat that abos made the same.
>Your butthurt reply to the previous reply:
Yes. Very butthurt Tyrese. I am the one who's butthurt here.
>>52643371
If by 'we' you mean a hypothetical different subspecies of homo sapiens that was taller and lankier than us and possibly had red hair. I guess we're all humans...
>[citation needed] (do not link me to marchofthetitans, thanks.)
Is this your strategy? Ask me to google all your shit so I'll just give up from all the googling?
>>52643597
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Egyptian_races.jpg
Here. Egyptian depiction of different peoples.
>Have you ever opened a history book?
Do you know of the moorish expansion and the north african slave trade? the way the romans described the meditteranean peoples?
>Not most but you implied that some were natural gingers with the end of this post:
Yes. I did imply that some people living in ancient egypt were natural gingers. Bold statement. Disprove me and the sources I provided.
This thread gave me cancer.
The swedish autist is truly relentless with his insanity.
ITT: People not realizing the Swde is not saying they were some ancient aryans, just that there isnt a continuation from them to abbos.
>>52643872
>you post vulgar shit in english and then leave
I never have, link me to a post or two from the archive though, I'm curious.
>claiming it was a magnificent feat that abos made the same
He didn't.
>Tyrese
???
>https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Egyptian_races.jpg Here. Egyptian depiction of different peoples.
No. That is a modern drawing, not an ancient egyptian painting. Pic related.
>Do you know of the moorish expansion and the north african slave trade?
Do you?
>Disprove me and the sources I provided.
Already done that, see >>52641787
damn it all of you are really picky with name calling and details
they don't matter much, the point is there are anomalies and they might be connected
>>52643784
>>That the gingers were superior?
No I claimed it was believed gingers pharaohs such as ramesses II were descendants of the god Set. That red hair was such a rarity that anyone that had it would be an anomaly for the commoners so great there was a mythological explanation for it.
>Yes the bullshit is contained in your posts.
Repeatedly being proven wrong does not make you right.
>Go ahead because I only know of the Dinkas and you claimed that their practice of hair dyeing with cow urine was a result of their contact with your mythical ''superior ginger egyptians who were natural gingers''
False quotation. Also I claimed African tribes dying their hair red, as for instance some tribes do with cow urine, is believed to be a custom inherited from ancient Egypt. Reading comprehension is boring right?
> and so you're implying that as a result of this contact, the inferior silly Sub-Saharans started pouring cow urine on their heads.
Why do I keep running into insane paranoid afro-centrists on 4chan? Do you have some website that you gather on like some kind of negro JIDF?
>Either be more precise when you post or stop talking out of your ass.
Yes my bad, I should add disclaimers so no insane person assumes fuckloads of things I didn't say right?
>Maybe some greek ptolemies but there weren't any Bronze Age egyptians with natural red hair.
Really? A trade state on the coast of the Mediterranean wouldn't have any red haired citizens? Despite my sources? I suppose they were all negroes from the congo, right? Not a single red head to be seen. Amazing how ethnically pure black they were, the egyptian traders. They must have had one hell of a surveillance system to prevent other traders from settling.
All pure black. Dark as the night. And I'm just a whitewashing eurocentrist out to oppress you because if people knew how 100% black and beautiful ancient Egypt was (what about Carthage?), I would be in trouble here in Sweden.
>>52638268
>red haired giants" of China and North America. Amerindians tell of an earlier population of very tall red haired people. When skeletons and mummies have been found
In china aren't they just Scythians who lived in Western China and weren't abnormally tall?
>>52644163
>False quotation
More like making you see what you sound like.
>some tribes
The Dinka people.
>is believed to be a custom inherited from ancient Egypt
Ah, so now your mythical ''ginger egyptians'' aren't natural gingers after all. Are you now claiming that they, too, poured cow urine on their heads?
>afro-centrist
You keep using that word in self-defense yet you clearly don't know what it means. Find a better buzzword to use.
>A trade state on the coast of the Mediterranean wouldn't have any red haired citizens?
Egypt was a Kingdom and it did not only trade with the Mediterranean world but also with other peoples' of the Nile Valley and of the Red Sea going as far as modern-day Puntland. Do you know that trading with the egyptians didn't magically make you egyptian? Do you know how rare red hair is in Northeast Africa? Are you not aware of the Egyptians' East African ancestral origins and the DNA results which confirm it? They were ''Hamitic'' peoples who on average resembled the modern-day Upper Egyptian fellahin and the Northeastern Sudanese Bejas. They weren't Irish with redheads appearing randomly.
I won't even bother with the rest of your autistic babble.
>>52643877
>samefagging canadian afrocentrist
>>52643975
Ty Finland. I will stop autism-bumping soon. I just like arguing with other autists.
>I never have, link me to a post or two from the archive though, I'm curious.
Well okay I guess there's two of you then. Idk check the archives I dunno how to find posts based on flag sorry...
>He didn't.
Nah he just said he wanted to be a colonial abo, that they were superhuman trackers, masters of survival and geography, as evidenced by their birds eye view maps. Oh wait...
>???
Jamal?
>No. That is a modern drawing, not an ancient egyptian painting. Pic related.
No, it's a copy collage of an egyptian mural in the "book of gates" at the tomb of Seti I, based on paint fragments. Pic related too points out the egyptian depictions of various races.
>Do you?
nice comeback mate 8/10 bravo good job disproved me entirely
>Already done that, see >>52641787
If dying hair red is evidence that there were no natural gingers in ancient Egypt, then African Americans wearing weave is evidence there are no americans with straight hair.
>>52644488
>samefagging
You don't seem to know what that word means either.
>Jamal?
No, since I am neither arab nor an African-American from a ghetto.
>copy collage of an egyptian mural in the "book of gates" at the tomb of Seti I, based on paint fragments
Look at the image I posted. It is a modern drawing and you admitted, why didn't you post the actual tomb painting?
>Pic related too points out the egyptian depictions of various races.
No, it shows Nubian prisoners of war during their conflicts with Nubians with modern coloring. Pic related is the original relief.
>If dying hair red is evidence that there were no natural gingers in ancient Egypt, then African Americans wearing weave is evidence there are no americans with straight hair.
You just went full retard. You also need a book title ''Reading comprehension 101''.
>>52644657
>you admitted
it*
>title
titled*
>>52644471
>Egypt was a Kingdom
for most of the Bronze Age*
>peoples'
peoples*
>Do you know how rare red hair is in Northeast Africa?
during the Bronze Age*
>>52644280
Yes I agree the chinese mummies have a different source. So what we know so far is
A: Amerindians and abos both have oral traditions of 'giants' (red haired in NA)
B: Similar skeletons have been found in both regions with bizarrely tall and slender humans of some sort
C: From the single DNA sample tested, it seems these people may be an entirely different Homo Sapiens subspecies, although there is heavy criticism of the sample
D: Neither the abos nor the amerindians are interested in finding out whether or not there actually were humans in their lands before them, because if there was, it would mess with their status as the original owners of the land. With their powers granted to them to protect them from colonial abuse, they have thus thwarted any attempt at further investigation by reclaiming found remains as their ancestors.
F: Amerindians have done the same against skeletons looking more "polynesian"
and G: Similar oral traditions have often been confirmed, so it is reasonable to believe that these stories also have a grain of truth to them
Who knows, maybe some fairly tall homo sapiens migrated sooner. If they're gingers, they may be from the nile delta where people are abnormally tall, and migrated rather quickly, causing an environmental adaptation with red hair instead of blonde (red hair evolves faster due to fewer alleles, but is less beneficial vs. blonde hair). If they migrated quickly, they would have left little remains, and may have been mistaken for other HS groups or other homo- vars that inhabited the areas earlier. But hey, that's just a wild theory, and most scientists supporting it that I've googled seem to be cited from conspiracy theory websites and crypto-zoology forums.
>>52644471
>More like making you see what you sound like.
To you and you only because you're paranoid.
>The Dinka people.
Found another: the Mundari.
>Ah, so now your mythical ''ginger egyptians'' aren't natural gingers after all
If some people use weave to imitate straight hair, does that mean there are no people with straight hair?
>You keep using that word in self-defense yet you clearly don't know what it means
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrocentrism
>Do you know that trading with the egyptians didn't magically make you egyptian?
Do you know that trading back then was not done on an iPhone? You had to travel very long distances, and indeed your bold assumption that egypt despite this influx that would make any other state at the time a melting pot would be so homogeneous that not a single red haired levanite would live in or speak the egyptian language is, well, bold.
>Do you know how rare red hair is in Northeast Africa
It's a recessive gene that turned more rare with the moorish expansion, the islamic golden age, and the north african slave trade. Romans, carthaginians, greeks, levanites, parthians, scythians, etc. all had some level of gingers. Egyptians depicted gingers several times and dyed their hair red. To assume that Egypt, whose main trade route was through the nile to the mediterranean, would have 0 gingers is again bold to say the least.
>I won't even bother with the rest of your autistic babble.
Fancy way of saying "aw shit I got no counter-argument"
"yes I do"
Okay, cite it and argue against it.
>>52644657
>You don't seem to know what that word means either.
The same canadian negro pretending to be a different person.
>No, since I am neither arab nor an African-American from a ghetto.
You're just African American then?
>why didn't you post the actual tomb painting?
Because it only has paint fragments? If I want to make a point about skin tones, would I paint a greek statue, or a greek statue that has been repainted based on paint fragments from the greek statue?
"See? That one pixel to the right is beige!"
>No, it shows Nubian prisoners of war during their conflicts with Nubians with modern coloring. Pic related is the original relief.
So a painting depicting Egyptians and nubians does not depict various races?
And a black and white picture is the original colour?
>You just went full retard. You also need a book title ''Reading comprehension 101''.
It's full retard to point out retarded antilogic. Because you do realize thats what I was doing? Pointing out how you were not making sense?
>>52645332
>Mundari
They are part of the Bari people who, like the Dinka, are from Southern Sudan.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrocentrism
Well, what are you waiting for to read that article?
>not a single red haired levanite would live in or speak the egyptian language is, well, bold
Yeah and you seem unaware that I've never claimed this. It is you who made the following bold (asinine) claims:
>>52641609
>Fun fact tho: in early ancient Egypt, red hair was considered a sign that you were descended of the sun god, and the early pharaohs p much were required to be natty gingers. It is theorized the rampant inbreeding was in part done in an effort to produce more ginger kings.
>>52645596
>They are part of the Bari people who, like the Dinka, are from Southern Sudan.
Toppest of keks
"POINT OUT MORE TRIBES!"
"okay these tribes"
"T-THEY DON'T COUNT! THEY'RE ALSO FROM AN AREA NEAR ANCIENT EGYPT! THEY HAVE TO BE FROM THE CONGO FOR IT TO COUNT!"
>Well, what are you waiting for to read that article?
Nice comeback. Let me try:
"Read uh. Yeah. READ lol faggot. You don't read."
>Yeah and you seem unaware that I've never claimed this.
>They weren't Irish with redheads appearing randomly.
>there weren't any Bronze Age egyptians with natural red hair.
Also, you're citing something I already corrected. I said red hair was associated with Set, not Ra.
>>52645591
>The same canadian negro pretending to be a different person.
I am neither canadian nor a ''negro''.
>You're just African American then?
No, italian.
>Because it only has paint fragments?
Then why are you even considering to use those ''paint fragments'' to make a point?
>If I want to make a point about skin tones, would I paint a greek statue, or a greek statue that has been repainted based on paint fragments from the greek statue?
You literally use a 19th century drawing which depicts the libyans and canaanites with snow white skin which is drastically different from how they were depicted by the egyptians (lighter than them and BROWN).
>And a black and white picture is the original colour?
Are you mentally retarded? This is a very serious question.
What is the picture that you attached to your post supposed to prove? Why didn't you post pic related which actually shows the Asiatics whom we were talking about? What's with your obsession with the Nubains whose purest descendants are the Southern Sudanese?
Having fun guys? Just thought I'd check in on you
>>52645787
No need to sperg out my autistic friend. You said ''African tribes'' while implying that pouring cow urine on their head is a result of their contact with your mythical ''ginger egyptians'' while providing no sources which confirm despite continuously going ''b-but muh sources! muh sources!''. Are you able to prove a link between these Bari people and your mythical ''ginger egyptians''?
>Nice comeback
It's not a ''comeback''. I asked you if you know what ''Afro-centrism'' means since you keep using ''afro-centrist'' as a buzzword and you reply to me with a link to the wiki article. So the question still stands, what are you waiting for to link that article?
>>52645847
Now he's losing his mind because he found another African tribe which lives in the same exact region as the Dinkas and who unsurprisingly share some identical customs.
>>52645924
>no sources which confirm
it*
>Are you able to prove a link between these Bari people
between the Bari people's practice of pouring cow urine on their head* [citation also needed]
Good thread OP, shit thread Canacuck.
The world needs to know about this.
The amount of shit that Aboriginal people try to claim is unbelievable. They literally ask for compensation every time a company uses a berry for human consumption as that berry was eaten by Abos 500 years ago so it is cultural heritage.
Why the fuck don't anglos get compensation from the abos every time the abos do anything besides walk barefoot and eat kangaroo?
>>52646443
See >>52641644 you imbecile.
>>52639851
Tarim mummies aren't a mystery, it's a fact Indo european used to love there
>>52646590
Not even same guy but he never claimed the tall slender skellys were caucasians. And the post you're directing to says they were
1. not abos
2. certainly not abos
3. possibly another homo sapiens subpsecies alltogether
which is exactly what op said all along. he even speculated they may be related to the supposedly 'red haired' tall people from north america
Scroll thru thread.
>Not one fucking Aussie flag.
>>52650185
Cunt's fucked
>>52650185
Learn to scroll harder dipshit.
>>52650758
3 posts above me,
>Being this invested in my post...
Settle Gretel.
>>52650882
Who are you quoting?
Your greentexting is next level shitness.
>>52651550
>Green text stories differ from “>Implying” green text comments, which are used to mock another user’s statement or challenge the validity of their argument.
Your farm needs to be calm m80
