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We wuz Khans...
And shit
Eventhough you are that butthurt proxyfag from canada i will feed you today
>Turanians
You mean nomadic Iranian tribes?
>>52603061
we mean tribes that whuped your asses
>>52603061
Look who is talking
Iranians always lived in the cities
>>52603113
Whose asses?
>>52602796
>Finns
>Related to cockroaches
>>52603177
Your!
Now post that great haystan armenian empire's map from total war game, suren
We are uralics not turanians tbphwy family
>>52603154
What are Scythians?
someone put flags here
I am too lazy for it
>>52602796
finland?
>>52603253
A collection of Uralic and Altaic tribes senpai
>>52603216
not a fan of the Armenian "empire", familia
>>52603284
Turanism was founded by Matthias Castrén, a Finn
>>52603291
They were Iranic though
>>52603303
Scythians were white mongoloid uraloids
>>52603347
That's bullshit and you know it
>>52603356
And Iranians by language
>>52603386
How so?
>>52603347
no they not,
but iranianians are cucked them for years indeed
>>52603392
No, there is no evidence for that
They were pre indo european aborigen to eastern europe and kazakstan, mongolia
Just like finns are abos to europe
>>52603356
Proto-Uralics were closest to Finns in terms of appearance, the fact that Finnish is closest to Proto-Uralic assests to this fact and genetic and archeological evidence
as I know, turkic tribes come from Altai and fucked up other tribes in central asia
then settled here
turkic tribes were very good at metallurgy n shiet
Is Kazakh a beautiful language like Mongolian?
>>52603462
Yes, blacksmithes were more respected and in higher caste than shamans
>>52603420
The claim that the Scythians were "Iranian", and therefore Indo-European, is based on the highly questionable interpretation of a few names and words transmitted by Greek sources. The evidence indicates that there were non-Indo-European peoples in Iran and Turan long before the appearance of Indo-Europeans in those regions. Some of these pre-Indo-European peoples may have later become "Indo-Europeanized" to some extent. The Scythians, Cimmerians, Sarmatians, Medes, and Parthians were therefore not originally Indo-European, they were Turanians. Indo-European linguistics has a tendency to claim as "Indo-European" many ancient peoples who were in fact originally non-Indo-European, but may have later become "Indo-Europeanized" as a result of ethno-linguistic convergence and hybridization.
>>52603460
Basically Swede/Nigger tier retardation.
>>52603430
Scythians weren't Iranic? That's what they teach you at school? Do they also still teach you the Sun Language Theory?
>>52603442
Proofs?
>>52603460
Probably less WHG and more EHG tb.h. See Erzya.
>>52603460
Uraloids and Finns are more European than greeks and armos, its finnic blood whitewashed lithuanians and latvians
And today they are the whitest indoeuropean speaking finnic nation
>>52603551
>Scythians weren't Iranic
Genetically yes culturally no
and they don't they sun language theory it was a failed attempt to revive pan-turkism
>>52603550
Not expecting any less from someone who buys into the traditional theory of the Uralian urheimat imposed by Indo-European linguists despite all the evidence to the contrary.
>>52603541
Well, Indo-European means "a speaker of an Indo-European" language. The fact that they used to speak another language doesn't prevent them from being Indo-European.
We Armenians too used to speak a non-IE language and don't have much to do with those steppeniggers but we are still Indo-European by language.
>>52603640
>Genetically yes culturally no
Explain.
>>52603661
Okay, my friend Suren!
>>52603639
Yes, Baltics being assimilated Uralics is true as well and this is apparent when one looks at the genetic evidence. I'm surprised a Kazakh has this extent of knowledge about history of Uralics.
>>52603719
>Suren
An Iranian name btw.
>>52603660
All Scandis, Balts and Finns have elevated aboriginal European admixture that was absorbed sometime after the Indo-European arrival to Europe.
>If we compare contemporary Estonians with the Corded Estonian sample, EHG declines by 13% (35-->22) while WHG jumps almost 10% (19-->28) and CHG increases by 5% (22-->27). This pattern remains true for current Balts (and virtually all Europeans west of the Volga) where CHG and WHG is higher than EHG, contrary to the ratio that was present among Corded and all descended groups.
>This is also evidenced in the change between RISE94/Sweden battle axe 2500BC and modern Norwegians. EHG falls 10% (29-->19) while CHG remains stable at 30% and WHG increases 6% (18-->24).
http://eurogenes.blogspot.fi/2015/12/yamnaya-has-whg-related-ancestry-not.html
>>52603740
Unfortunately I have been to Baltic countries, and had histry class about last Livs etc
>>52603841
Livonians*
>>52603660
You're infected with the same autism as Swedes who think Indo-Europeans are native to Scandinavia.
>>52603762
Some degree of mixing has happened obviously and no one's denying that. However, of all other Uralics, we're still closest to the original ones due to living in isolation.
>>52604120
Lol Uralic language is a rather recent arrival too. I'm talking about genes which is independent from language.
>>52603964
Say what you want but it won't change the fact that Finnish is closest to Proto-Uralic - It is only logical that we're more similar to Proto-Uralics genetically than other Uralic populations.
>in /turan/ very interesting discuss about origins and heritage
>other /int/ is probably shitpost and christmas n shiet
I am proud guys
>>52604251
I would go with Erzya being the closest Proto-Uralic AND Indo-European. It's like they are stuck at 3000-2500 BC genetically.
>>52604251
When they sequence the Comb Ceramic remains in Finland(Asbestosware) they will turn out to be haplogroup I1d and basically proto-Balts minus Indo-European admixture. Finns will turn out to be a mixture of something Mari-like and this population.
>>52604162
Uralics are Proto-Europeans senpai - If any language family is a recent arrival to Europe that is IE
>>52604281
it's just finnish haploautism
>>52604399
Kalevi Wiik pls go.
>>52604352
Proto-Balts weren't I haplo desu
>>52603614
Finns are more EHG desu excluding beach swedes
>>52604531
You never know. Eastern Finland has higher I1 diversity than Western Finland suggesting they have I1 that was never Germanized.
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/31455-I1a-bifurcating-effect-on-the-Lithuanian-Y-N3-and-mt-U5b-prior-to-R1a1
>>52604531
Yeah they were I2 with some R1a. I1d probably originated in Poland or Denmark but became established in Finland by 3200 BC. Either way the population in Finland was proto-Balt.
>>52604681
That's most likely just Indo-European admixture that has nothing to do with Proto-Balts, that is the Uralian ones
>>52604406
Hoşgeldin Serj abi gene yakıyorsun şu T*rancı piçleri :ddd
>>52604775
No. They were most likely N like Neolithic Cro-Magnons who modern Balts obviously descend from.
>>52604864
eyv qardo :DDD
True Finns aren't some swedish-cock-juggling Russian-ass-licking cucks. Fucking cityfolk from hesa thinking "WE WUZ VIKINGS" when actually it's "WE WUZ NOMAD KINGS"
>>52605280
this desu
>>52602796
ya amına koyim kaçıncı yüz yılda yaşıyoruz turan ne insanı delirtmekten baka bir sike yaramıyorsunuz.
>>52605346
>YANIYOOOOOOOOM
>>52605346
t. eg*li cuck
>>52605393
>>52605399
>>52605587
ayy
Why is the butthurt Amernian-Russian in every thread such as this?
>>52605645
prolly cuz your a t*rk
>>52605717
you are not welcome here
go back to /rus/
>>52605717
Is that supposed to be an insult?
>>52605754
nah
le eternal generals are shit
>>52605767
yes
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Turk#Noun
>Turan
Azeri girls don't marry Turks here lmao
>>52605820
You know, it's not going to be insulting in this thread. I would be insulted if someone called me an armo though. Or a k*rd.
>>52606107
Instead they prefer young, strong Kurdish lads.
>>52606128
No, they prefer their own kind since they are also Shia.
>>52606120
So you feel insulted when called human? Haha, what an absolute madman! ;)
>>52606348
lol dude
did you understand what you said
>>52606412
Yes?
>>52606348
I know you're trying, but you're not even funny man,
Fuck off Russo-Armenoid
>>52606541
It's no secret that Turks aren't human though? Bunch of brainwashed cucks, I'm being totally serious.
>>52606634
KEK
cuck
>>52606665
>>>/sunlanguagetheory/
>>52606750
No though, when you write cuck with capitilized letters it gets cencored to KEK.
>>52606806
intredasting
ϹUCK
>>52603347
Sycthians were not a nation or a single ethnic tribe , they were a confedaration of many tribes.
They weren't even a proper country
>>52607543
That didn't prevent them from speaking Iranian languages.
>>52607596
They all weren't speaking Iranian langueges , I am saying that they were a confederation of tribes and of course some of them were speaking Iranian langueges. Sycthian is not a ethnic or linguistic word , it is just like what you call American today ( with exception of common languege )
BİZ OLMAKTIK OĞUZ VE BOK
reportan in
>>52607701
>They all weren't speaking Iranian langueges
proofs?
>>52607751
Imagine 100 people living as part of something that does very little to tie them together , they don't speak to each other , they mostly don't help each other , hell they even sometimes don't know each other. That's what Sychtians are.
There are not even enough proofs that a nomadic tribe spoke anything close to Iranian 3000 years ago , you are just shilling here man.
>>52607890
Shilling for what? I couldn't care less about some savage steppeniggers.
I still haven't seen any proofs of Scythians not speaking Iranian languages in the Antiquity, only some baseless statements.
lol are turds still trying to claim things that are not theirs as their own?
baka тbh faм
>>52608017
The evidence of them being a confederation of Uralic and Altaic tribes is more convincing than the evidence for them being Iranian (Indo-European) though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budini
>>52608017
scythians were iranic, only t*rks with no culture or history claim otherwise
>>52608505
Says who?
The sources for that article aren't exactly impressing.
>>52608625
There could've been Iranian tribes among the Scythians, but I doubt that due to the fact that Uralics and Altaics roamed the steppes and areas that were part of Scythia long before Indo-European languages came into existence.
>>52608767
>but I doubt
Again, who are you? Any peer-reviewed studies that claim the same thing?
>>52608767
scythians literally have links to some modern day iranic groups
scythians by and far were iranic, according to the majority of scholars - the only people saying they were turkic are turks themselves who have no relation to turkics
I like boys
>>52602796
>turan
>turan
>touran
>Volkswagen touran
>volkswagen
>german
>turks in germany
>germany is touran
starts to make sense.
did the scythes left anything anyway? any tombstones, runic tablets and whatnot?
t. actually curious man
>>52608938
Again, Scythians were not a single ethnic group - They were a confederation of multiple tribes, mostly Uralic and Altaic ones - I'm not saying that at no point were there Iranian tribes among them, but the majority of them were Ural-Altaic.
>b-but Scythians were all the same and uniform Iranic people!
Just look at a map ffs, and look at what vast and open lands constituted as Scythia in an age of no borders, no modern administration and no mass communication, and you'd start to understand why it's bs to say they all were one ethno-linguistic group.
Just like later on the Huns weren't a uniform society.
And by no logic does that fact that some Iranic groups descended from them mean that all of them were Iranic.
And this whole Ural/Altaic vs. Indo-European battle makes no sense whatsoever, steppe nomadic tribes didn't form alliances or went to wars based on muh ethno-linguistic feels.
>>52609545
they sure as hell weren't slant eyed turkics
>>52609625
>source: my persian firetablets
Funny thing is the Northern"Iranian" nomads looked more like Kıpchaks/Tatars of today than Iranians.
>>52608885
As most historians insist on them being Indo-European despite that claim's shaky foundation there aren't too many studies that try to disprove that claim. You'll find some if you google for them though. Besides, common sense tells you that the theory of the Iranian origin of Scythians isn't exactly adamant with it being based on questionable interpretations of names and words transmitted by Greek sources.
>turan thread
Just...
>>52609693
probably**
:^)
>>52609703
So you have no proof? Good.
>>52609545
Again you didn't provide any proofs, just some baseless rambling.
>this thread
>>52609775
They are saying there is no undeniable proof that they are Iranid either. But continue to ignore your own understanding :)
>>52609838
What's up with this >>52603551 pic then?
And I'm eager to adopt their viewpoint if they provide some peer-reviewed studies that claim the same thing.
>>52609838
There is none, actually, apart from those Greek interpretations based on words and names. The fact that one of the largest Scythian tribes, the Budini, were red-haired and blue-eyed is a more solid piece of evidence, to be honest. No such people exist in the vicinity of what used to constitute Scythia apart from Uralians.
>>52609025
This desu
Guys, would you answer a simple question: who am I?
>>52609963
>a wikipedia sentence is his undeniable proof
Especially when it comes to linguistics, and even more especially when it comes to language of people who left nothing, why would we trust the academy? This isn't physics: Linguistics is a field very open to interpration, much like sociology and even history
>>52610047
What about the Golden armor guy or whatever? Does it's style tell anything?
>>52610138
gay
>>52605820
>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Turk#Noun
>assuming the active role in anal sex.
> assuming the active role in anal sex. >assuming the active role in anal sex. >assuming the active role in anal sex. >assuming the active role in anal sex. >assuming the active role in anal sex. >assuming the active role in anal sex. >assuming the active role in anal sex. >assuming the active role in anal sex.
WHO WROTE THIS
>>52610333
The what now? Scythians using scale armor doesn't really tell anything I'm afraid as scale armor has been used from Rome to Japan.
>>52610333
It has citations. And as far as I understand all respectable historians agree that they were Iranian speaking.
>>52610680
That's because no one dares to question a widely acceped theory to not lose their face, so to speak. The fact that it's widely accepted doesn't matter as there isn't any proof of the Scythians' Iranian origin apart from those word interpretations which makes the theory as baseless as it gets.
>>52610680
>it has citations
>X agree
Did you even read what I wrote?
>>52610642
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Иccыкcкий_зoлoтoй_чeлoвeк
>>52610778
>That's because no one dares to question a widely acceped theory to not lose their face
What makes you say that? Have there been cases of serious scholars questioning this accepted theory and losing their face?
>>52610830
All you are saying is "we can never know!!!!1".
>>52610830
Sorry, I don't speak Russian. What's that?
Turks, pls do a better job at the next armenian genocide.
>>52610977
t. t*rk
>>52610904
Yes?
Do you have one, just one object that actually says Scythians spoke Iranian language? I am not saying they didn't, but we can't know. It comes down to presumptions, and them speaking an Uralic or Altaic language has just as much chance as them speaking an Iranid language.
>>52610934
they found that armor in kazakhstan. It's supposed to be from BC 5th century
>>52610977
inşTeñri
>>52611043
I'm partly Cuman, so might as well, yea.
>>52610848
What makes me say that is that just like with any other widely accepted theory (in fields that are very open to interpretation like linguistics and history), diverging from the mainstream might make you less credible in the eyes of your peers and perhaps even cost you your career.
>>52611118
Okay, so if there are no proofs of their Iranic origin then why are all the scholars saying that they were Iranian?
>>52611118
There are no images on that page, just text in cyrillic.
>>52611251
because the opinion of some random pro-turkic finn is worth more than the opinions and research of scholars with phd's who have dedicated their lives to said research in said field
>>52611222
another Kypchak poster living in Eastern Europe? wow
>>52611382
yeah, seems so
>>52611382
Spending your entire life interpreting a few words written down by Greeks is pretty stupid imo.
>>52611501
pulling shit out of your ass is beyond stupid imo
>>52611533
The fact that the largest Scythian tribes were Uralic and Turkic is enough proof desu. The Budini for instance could not have been Iranic as they were red-haired and blue-eyed.
>>52611601
Red hair and blue eyes prevent someone from speaking an Iranian language?
>>52611601
>fact that the largest Scythian tribes were Uralic and Turkic is enough proof desu
that's not a fact
>>52611601
>The Budini for instance could not have been Iranic as they were red-haired and blue-eyed
if anything, the fact that they were red haired and blue eyed attests to the fact that they were iranic, as iranic populations whether persians/kurds/pashtuns/whatever else often exhibit such phenotypes
there's also the fact that they spoke an iranian language which has descendant languages that also fall into the iranic family
>>52611643
I'd imagine that Iranians with significantly darker complexion could not have imposed their language on such a light people without wiping them out in the process, such genes are recessive you see.
>>52611742
nice /pol/ logic
>>52603322
Isn't Turan idealogy was founded by Hungarians?
>>52611711
That's bullshit and you know it. Most Iranic populations have dark hair and dark eyes - The Budini were majority red-haired and blue-eyed just like modern Uralians close to the area that used to constitute Scythia.
>itt 16 year olds arguing about skin pigmentation
>>52611742
What makes you say that Iranians had significantly darker complexion?
>>52611711
Basically what he's saying is
>Udmurts have blue eyes and red hair
>the Budini had blue eyes and red hair
>hence the Budini were Finno-Ugric
>>52611849
No, a Finn invented it but it has never gained as much popularity here as it has in Hungary.
>>52611889
rüstem my son
>>52612021
>>52611889
yuo are men now
>>52612067
>>52611889
will yuo drawings of the polandball like you used to do?
>>52611889
>>52612119
or will u just get high and shitpost nonsense stuff
If turks are iranian and therefore white, how do you explain boat people?
>>52612021
>>52612067
Rusztem maga volt Ő!
>>52612213
>>52611889
..
>>52612257
>>52612257
rüstem kim hocam redpill pls
t. yeniibne
>>52612119
>>52612213
i miss the time i was a neet, so much free time to draw countryballz, my job doesnt allow me to even take a shit let alone post on /int/ anymore
>>52612251
the one on the middle
>>52612345
what happened to your serb "friends" that you used to hang out with?
also wat job?
>>52612455
no seeing them anymore, i moved to another city.
Senior client manager at an IT corp.
>>52612313
erm*ni zengin piçi zamanında iyi polandball çizip ot içerdi
2-3 sene önce baya bantz yapardık
sen şimdi tturkfag, turko-jew ve thracian'ı da bilmezsin...
>>52612552
>Senior client manager at an IT corp.
>tfw did internship on IT department
>tfw staff only listens musics and playing chess
>tfw only cleaned, formatted and installed drivers to the companies pc
fuck man it was boring as fuck
>>52612580
>sen şimdi tturkfag, turko-jew ve thracian'ı da bilmezsin
turko-jew u bir veya iki kez görmüştüm seçim zamanında onun dışında hayır bilmiyorum diğerlerini no bully pls
>>52612722
SİEEEEEEEEEE YARRAK KAFALI GELDİĞİN YERE GERİ DÖN
>>52609025
all SUV cars are named after Central Asian tribes:
- Nissan Qashqai
- Renault Kadjar
- VW Touran
>>52612694
>playing chess
>leaned, formatted and installed drivers
Sounds comfy as fuck! Pls gib me that job.
I think from this thread we can conclude that Uralic and Altaic tribes are superior in every way and roasting summer sausage up in ones' rectum creates a ghastly smell.
Also fuck Russians and Armenians
Bye
>>52612694
as manager i do none of that, my task is the busniess strategy part, if you ever made ITIL ull kno what i mean
>>52614347
>busniess strategy part
ah i see
