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How come protestant countries became so much more economically
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How come protestant countries became so much more economically successful than Catholic countries?
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because literally because of protestant doctrines valuing work
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i'm catholic
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>>52596717
Because they pillaged catholic countries.

Right Sweden and Pussia?
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>>52596717
Because they work hard for the money, so hard for the money.
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our love for jesus was switched out with the love for money
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>>52596717
You're still not protestant Britain.
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>>52596717
Better work ethic
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>>52596717

Southern Germany is Catholic and is without a doubt the most successful prosperous region in the world (along with the German parts of Switzerland)
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>>52596717
Protestants are liberal
Catholics/Orthodox/Other Apostolic are collectivist

Here's your explanation

In fact Protestantism was directly responsible for birth of liberalism, industrialisation and rise of the bourgeoisie class and exploitation of others
Shame on you, the perfidious Albion
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>>52597770
>exploitation of others

*TIPS FEDORA*

Back to reddit
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>>52597770
Suck it down communist pig
Thank you Lord for capitalism, and we beg you for death of Marxist scum
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>>52597840
>>52597871
protestant apologisers

capitalism is worst thing which happened to europe. i'd much rather still live in feudalism
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>>52596717
Because they are the jews of the christendom
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Because "protestants" are just people who make pacts with the devil, even if they are not aware of it.
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>>52597901
Then go back to it you economically illiterate moron
Christian morality presented in Protestantism and free market capitalism are literally things that make humans humans, you leftist pigs would rather be animals
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>>52597959
the pope is the devil
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>>52597959
t. Alberto Barbosa
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>>52598009
This Pope is the anti-christ
Finally someone sees it too.
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>>52597990
Yeah, Luciferian doctrines of muh freedom

"Objectivism is Satanism without rituals and candles" - Anton LaVey

>Christian morality
Kek, Christian morality is collectivist. First Christians even lived in communes like Anabaptists. Protestantism is just insane heresy of it
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>>52598105
Sure thing my butthurt laddie, just look at the great Protestant commune of the United States of America
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>>52597959
How does a pope stop this?
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>>52598165
United States is a country created by freemasonic deists, what do you mean?

Freemasons were also having their take in spread of liberalism. All legal rites in fact do.

Please, you should study Christianity more. Next you'll tell me Gnosticism was a total heterodoxy.
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>>52598175
He is like the shepherd dog of God. He brings unity to the church and prevents the Christendom to fracture and its people to go astray and through God protects his flock from the wolves who would prey on us.
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>>52597959
You mean like the pact you made with the Portuguese caliphate Alberto?
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>>52598267
freemasonry is one of the best things to happen to humanity
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Why are protestant countries becoming muslim? :^)
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>>52598402
It depends on what obedience. Some are pretty fuck up.
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>>52598402
True senpai.

And French freemasons are engineering the cure to Islamic fundamentalism at this very moment

When Laicite becomes efficient against Islam we will finally be freed from these religious lunatics
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>>52598370
Funny Mohammed bin Rapin
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>>52598366
What about the current nutcase?
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>>52598481
The powerful ones are full of honest, decent people to be fair

They had their share of assholes who took advantage of the brotherhood for their own political gain but overall, it is a great society of intellectuals committed to advancing humanistic values and secularism
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>>52598550
He is the anti-christ, as I said.
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>>52598555
French anon knows what's up.
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>>52596717
This is not even true.

Southern Germany is the country's richest region and it's catholic.
In the USA the catholic regions are richer.
Austria is catholic.
Switzerland has more catholics than protestants.
Your own neighbor, the catholic Ireland is richer than your country.
The richest country in Europe (GDP per capita) is Luxembourg, which is catholic.

Whereas the protestants have:
Norway: le oil emirate
A few other legit contenders like Scandinavians and the Netherlands
Most of Africa, which is universally considered the biggest shithole of a continent.

bonus round: the protestant parts of Hungary is the biggest shithole in the country

Basically there is no real difference in the economic capability of catholic and protestant countries, any difference could be more sensibly explained by differences in local culture and availability of natural resources. There are simply more catholic countries so it's easier to point fingers at the shitty ones and ignore the ones who are doing as well or better than protestants.

t. not even catholic
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>>52598555
>secularism
>intellectual
When will this meme die out?
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>>52598489
In the end portugal won
AS ARMAS
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>>52599097
Your way of thinking is wrong. Intellectuals are not all secular, but most secularists are intellectual. Has nothing to do with IQ or anything.
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Protestants are christian jews
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Catholic Work Ethic
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>>52599372
What is that suppost to mean?
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>>52599515
Spending hours at work doesn't mean that people are working.

How many faggots come here while on their jobs?
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>>52599580
this faggot
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>>52599515
It's about efficiency and inefficiency. Don't worry Alberto, one day you'll learn.
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>>52599580
Well kinda true i come here wile im in math or phisics class
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>>52599650
I think if you spend 43 hours at work even of you an"inefficent worker" you got to get some work done
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That isnt true though. The richest part of europe (northern italy, switzerland, austria and southern germany) is catholic territory.

Only norway who lucked out with oil comes close.
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>>52599742
>richtugal
heuhuehueheu
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>>52599740
you do. The same work a Dutchman does in 38 hours
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>>52599742
even a lake has a gdp nowadays wew
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>>52599742
>Holland, Sweden, Budapest & Ã…land
>Catholic
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>>52596717
>Austria isn't a successful country
>France isn't a successful country
>Belgium isn't a successful country
>England is a Protestant country
I want Weber to leave
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>implying Anglicanism is even protestant

All that Anglicans deny is the Pope. All of the other Catholic beliefs are preserved. I think that's why our religion is so based.
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>>52600009
>Belgium
>Succesful
Have you heart about the wonderous land called Wallonia?
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>>52600118
So you're basically Orthodox
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>>52600009
>Belgium

It's pretty much a non-country lad.
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>>52600154
>All of the other Catholic beliefs are preserved
>So you're basically Orthodox

You're retarded, huh?
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Surprised at how mad this thread made catholics desu
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>>52600118
>All that Anglicans deny is the Pope
That's one of the core tenets of Protestantism. Angilicans are Protestant, just like Calvinists, Lutherans, Baptists and others.
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>>52600152
>flanders isn't successful
>southern netherlands isn't successful
Better now m8?

>>52600155
Nice dubs Nigel, but one doesn't imply the lack of the other, see Uruguay too.
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>>52600118
>All of the other Catholic beliefs are preserved

Maybe 100 years ago. Modern day Anglicanism is shit tier

>women can be priests!
>sex outside marriage is ok

I give the church of england 20 years before they start doing homo weddings
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>>52600240
You find it strange when people that are slandered react?

It's just a prank, bro.
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>>52600265
>women can be priests!
>sex outside marriage is ok

I agree that this is pretty fucked up.
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>>52600294
I mean I didn't think people cared about their Catholic Identity, I imagine most Euros to be secular and "post Christian" I couldn't imagine getting mad if someone made fun of Anglicanism for being retarded shit made up by the King.
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When Catholics went to China or whatever, they proselytized. When the Calvinists went to Singapore they said, "These pagans are damned. Whelp, not going to try to convert them." But even the mainstay Catholic countries are poor too. Italy, Portugal, Poland, Spain, et cetera are all shit holes that barely count as Western European countries.
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>>52600265
Do you care if some guy fucks another guy up the ass? And you care even more if they get married?
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>>52600238
What I meant is that orthodoxs also don't recognize the Pope as the head of their church, but afaik aren't that different from catholics in other affairs.
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>>52596717
How come Orthodox countries are way less cuck than Catholic and Protestant (heretic) countries>
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>>52600396
Oriental Orthodox branches have Popes, though.
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>>52600396
>but afaik aren't that different from catholics in other affairs

Oh boy are you retarded. Catholics and the Orthodox don't agree on anything.
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>>52600361
Because even you can say what Anglicanism really is.

When you bring up Catholicism you're bringing cultural aspects that were present in the genesis of most Catholic countries.
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>>52596717
Protestants are more prone to cuckage as you can see by the percentage of muslims in protestnt countries.
Catholics have traditional values...
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>>52600374
I care if something calling itself a "religion" changes it's values based on what the feelings of the modern world. It shows it has no substance.
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>>52600437
Because they're much poorer. Also no colonial history.
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God likes us more.
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>>52600294
>caring about Catholicism

Oh come on, its the current year
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>>52600468
But Anglicanism has many cultural aspects in English culture which people still like but it's not something I think people would get mad about if it was made fun of. I think so anyway.
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>>52600516
Well, it's called evolution. Something religious people are afraid of.

>tips fedora
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>>52600505
>Protestants are more prone to cuckage as you can see by the percentage of muslims in protestnt countries.


Well it's more like the Muzzies come to the rich countries for the welfare, and the rich countries just turn out to be Protestant. It's not like they plan on avoiding Catholic countries because they're Catholic.
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>>52600255
i thought nigel was australian
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>>52600467
Tell me more about it, that was the image I had of them at least. You never hear much about them here
>>52600439
Aren't those mostly based around a country, though? Like, Bulgaria and Russia don't have the same patriarch
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>>52600556
Christianity is completely ok with being mocked lad. We literally use the torture device on which our lord died as a universal sign. Muzzies aren't even allowed to show Muhammad, while we show Jesus in his weakest, most human state as the main sign of the faith.
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>>52600467
You dont know anything. Catholicism and Othodoxy are more similar.

>both accept the deuterocanonicals
>both reject female ordination
>both believe christ is literally present in the eucharist
>both believe in the same sacraments
>saints
>both reject the "scripture alone" position of protestantism

the differences between orthodoxy and catholicism are very minor. The core beliefs and practices are the same.
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>>52600669
True, but they are technically still antipopes. Angilicanism doesn't have such a thing, like pretty much all protestant denominations.
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>>52600556
I think the difference is that Protestantism showed up after the formation of said counries and therefore has less value to its people, as if suddenly Country>Religion, as something mutable and more open to being opinionated and criticised.

Catholic religious values predate the origins of Catholic countries and therefore we see them as more powerful foundations, less open to change and criticism.
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>>52600748
Many of these are also in varying degrees present in denominations of Protestantism though. Even the "scripture alone" has been silently phased out in most.
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>>52600868
this fact kinda makes you muslim-tier
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>>52600748
>they both believe in saints

wew lad, the same religion huh?
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>>52600983
>this fact kinda makes you muslim-tier

How? Catholics no longer interfere in the running of the state. Islam wants to control every aspect of life where it rules.
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>>52601041
Did you even read his reply, Paddy McPaddy?
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>>52600994
>ignoring every other point

you got BTFO
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>>52600983
Catholicism is a basis and foundation to catholics and catholic cultures. We are more than just Catholics, but we still have not forgotten its values and morals, even non-believers.

Islam is a weight placed on top of muslims. Muslims are only what Islam lets them be.

Protestantism is just something inbetween, to be put aside whenever protestants feel like it, or to be used whenever they feel like it.
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>>52601427
Protestantism is just the basis my country is formed on. I don't have anything to do with church or God. But happy the way Protestants made this country the way it is now. I'll give them that.
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>>52596717
God hates Catholics like the heretics they are 2bh
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>>52601757
>tfw Slavic Protestants will never become popular
It's feels alone on the top
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>>52596717
Well, protestants are not even Christian so they could give full attention to realizing their inherent materialism
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This thread is full of culturalist scum. A value of protestantism is hard work? What hard work? They are the ones who works less hours, they literally stole money with state sponsored piracy. By your stupid logic, Islamic countries should be very developed because his prophet was a merchant.
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>>52596717
That's funny because protestantism here is associated with poor, dumb people who spend a huge part of their money on church.
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Because lutheranism literally spread because kings wanted to nationalize all the massive amounts of wealth the Catholic jews had hoarded

When,are you idiots gonna realize the Catholic Church is the real mafia
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>>52602057
Because you live in a 3rd world country. The protestants in your country actually want a better society, hence they give their money to church (which is a mistake, i admit).

>>52602032
Catholic unemployed scum, living off of Northern Euro money
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>protestant work morals vs. la siesta
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This area is the richest part of Europe.

And they are Catholic.
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>>52602057
>Colombian calling others poor and dumb and accusing them of spending a huge part of their money on church
That's pretty much a stereotype of all Colombians.
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>>52602302
>Swedecuck coming to Papist rescue
Whoa.
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>>52602368
Facts are facts.
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>protestants
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>>52602212
>The protestants in your country actually want a better society
By being dumb and lazy and thinking someday "god" is going to fall from the sky and solve all their problems because they've gone to church every sunday? Lol ok
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>>52602556
>Tips fedora
>Tips Venezuela
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How come protestant countries are much more cucked than catholic countries?

For example:

>sweden
>britain
>(north) germany
>netherlands
>protestant

>ireland
>poland
>italy
>spain
>switzerland
>catholic
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>>52602556
If the catholics in your country were anything better, your country wouldn't be the shithole it is today, since catholics are the majority in your country. They are the ones that need to make the difference, yet they don't. Sniff more cocaine Pablo, it makes you feel better.
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>>52602630
Because they're richer so immigrants go there
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>>52602212
Fuck you, the rich countries of the Eurozone, especially Germany, are the ones which are more benefitted with the euro currency, making their exports cheaper than they should be.
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>>52597733
The Prussian parts were more successful until the Russians raped, killed and expelled all Germans from there and made east Germany to cuck the rest.
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>>52602805
Cry harder bitch. I rather have a Northern union, without the south leeches
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>>52602556
>thinking someday "god" is going to fall from the sky and solve all their problems
That's Catholics for you. We Protestants know that someday the world will end, but it doesn't mean we should give up on it completely
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The decline of the West began with the Protestant Reformation.

Prove me wrong

>protip: you can't
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>>52601757
Shit map. There is no religious boundary here, we have Calvinists everywhere, there is just more of them in the east.
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>>52602928
And then your industries would close and would come to Southern European countries. I wish that happens.
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>>52602655
Yeah you know absolutely nothing

this is the bullshit protestants feed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e5lbnBMP2U

It's an utter joke, literally nigger tier. "Dollar dollar bill y'all" the religion
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>>52602960
But I can. It started with Communist Manifesto
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>>52602937
Kill yourself
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>>52602987
I don't think there are religious boundaries anywhere, this just shows majorities.
>Inb4 no muslims in Sweden and France
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>>52603057
Fuck off you scum, I'm fed up with your bullshit enough in daily life to be forced to read it here as well
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>>52602506
You should try living here with maximum 4 hours sunlight down to 0 hours of sunlight depending on where you live.
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>>52603017
>Americunt thinking he knows anything.
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>>52603016
>And then your industries would close

Literally why industries?

>and would come to Southern European countries. I wish that happens

Hahahahahano.
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>>52603017
>It's an utter joke, literally nigger tier. "Dollar dollar bill y'all" the religion

>Americans that think what they see on American TV is representative for the whole world

Kek. This is why you are the most hilarious peopel in the world to be honest.
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>>52603122
>fed up with your bullshit
>is a protestant

on the contrary, you live off of bullshit lies and TV cultists promising good fortune at a reasonable fee to dumb rednecks who know nothing about the bible

You are cancer. You are a cockroach. You are directly responsible for the decline in western civilisation.

End yourself.
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Actually the protestantism enables the "Enlightenment" which at the same time provides the ideas and support for the future commies and socialist bullshit.
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>>52603160
Because your exports would be far more expensive that are now.
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>>52603160
>why
*what

>>52603221

>Europeans are Americans

>mfw
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>>52603016
You really think our industry didn't move out already? We rely on our commercial dominance. Multinational companies. Some of the biggest of the world

Royal Dutch Shell
Unilever
Ahold
etc.

Fuck your cheap labour
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>>52603271
>>52603212
the dutch are worse shitposters than australians

no lies, only truth.
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>>52603254

What do you base that on, m8? We traded before the European Union and we will trade after... Even while being a Member State some of our bigger trading partners were third countries. Before the sanctions and that airplane incident Russia was actually one of our biggest (and most profitable) trading partners.

>B-but Northern Euros are only rich because of the Union and exploiting the South
Kek.. Ever wonder if maybe it's just that mentality keeping you down?
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>>52603221
Go fuck yourself with your communist pope who unironically bashes capitalism and defends liberation theology. You piece of human garbage who does nothing but watching TV and listening to your favorite taqiyya every Sunday. You disgust me by daring to even mentioning Bible, as your heretical organisation constatly shits on everything this book says
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>>52603301

Both me. And I'm quite right...

>Bringing up TV ministers in a conversation about European Protestants

m8
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>>52597733
>without a doubt the most successful prosperous region in the world

Apart from Qatar, Luxembourg, and loads of other places.
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>>52603335
>protestants
>not heretics
>not loathsome jews seeking to hijack and derail christianity
top fucking kek

you know nothing of history, and you clearly know nothing of the world today if you think that Sven and Muhammed getting married by a transgendered pastor in a back alley protestant """church""" is in any way supported by the Bible.

The real bible mind you, not the fanfiction protestant version with crayola crayons amending and removing shit to fit into what some douchebag cult leader is preaching. I'm not sure if you're aware of the distinction.
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>>52603329
I never said that's the only reason, it's one of them. Free trade only benefit the already rich countries. Between the 1950s and 1970s the world experienced a big economic development, because there was a lot of investment and USA was permissive with good trade agreements. But since the 1980s neoliberalism has been fucking the world economy up.
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>>52603523
>Religious nutcase talking
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>>52603569
>But since the 1980s neoliberalism has been fucking the world economy up.

>Spouting Socialist memes

No wonder your economy a shit.
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>>52603523
>you think that Sven and Muhammed getting married by a transgendered pastor in a back alley protestant """church""" is in any way supported by the Bible.
That's also pretty Catholic, stop projecting you insecure American larper.
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>>52603523

>tfw you can never tell if they're for realsies when they have an American flag
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>>52603523
Quit meme posting you heretic cuckold. Your petty church will end the same as all of the degenerate churches which ignored the Word of God in the Bible. Keep on crying about muh joos and how only priests should have money, I will enjoy your idolatrist tears. And you have no idea about Biblical reality if you seriously think the taqiyya approved version with things like Second Commandment cut out so cuckolic sheeple won't question anything their precious pope says
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>>52603590
>have never been more economic crisis since neoliberalism
>world economic growth was highly reduced
But no, neoliberalism has nothing to do with it.
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>>52603746
>won't question anything their precious pope says
Is the "real" Bible in any way.
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>>52601757
>Galician & Corsican are languages
>Scots isn't

top kek
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>>52603590
Oh and about your socialist thing (or more like about planned, centralized economy)
>what are Japan, South Korea, Singapour and China
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>>52602057
This is true. Protestants actually pay tithes like good goys.
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>>52603587
>degenerate pseudochristian talking
one day you wipe your ass with it, then when it's convenient for meme purposes you suddenly take pride in being protestant

Do you see why it is difficult to take one seriously with that approach? You hold no convictions, you're basically a walking whore to whatever flashing images are on the TV screen or coming out of the lips of some crosseyed protestant cult leader. Your entire country is basically a red light district; even poverty ass eastern european men can afford the trip and fuck your mothers and sisters

is it any coincidence that it's sweden, britain, that are so damn cucked? You either don't care or are actively hostile to your own identity and past...hence why faggots like you on the internet overcompensate and roleplay. Anyone capable of logic can see that protestant sects are a joke; a souless artificial business like mcdonalds that exist for the sole purpose of making profit off dumb people

>>52603746
>Your petty church will end the same as all of the degenerate churches which ignored the Word of God in the Bible
Sorry, I'm not a retardestant.
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>>52603876
>Spain

Such a high potential country, ruined by siesta's
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>this autistic dutch
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>>52603918
I am not christian at all. I only appreciate the fact my country is built on protestant values. Fuck any religious nutcase tho.

>tips fedora
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>>52603751

>Post hoc ergo propter hoc

Yeah, k
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>>52603876
>Japan,
Not socialist
>South Korea,
Not socialist
>Singapour
Authoritarian shithole
>and China
Poor authoritarian shihole
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>>52603918
No, you're a cathocuck, a well known for ignoring the Bible heresy that practises praying to saints and Mary, sees Jesus for nothing more than Eucharist and listens only to the "Catechism of Catholic Church", a form of taqiyya that justifies in wicked ways not obeying the Word of God, but instead obeying the Word of Pope
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because the catholic church is literally the Whore of Babylon whereas at the very least protestants make an attempt at following the Word of God.

For example catholics make graven images and bow down to them, they thought to change times and seasons, to make laws which God never commanded, and gather wealth unto themselves instead of using it to take care of the widows, the orphans, the poor and the Levites (both those in Jerusalem and those who sojourn among us)
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>>52603918
>you're basically a walking whore to whatever flashing images are on the TV screen or coming out of the lips of some crosseyed protestant cult leader.

Are you literally unaware that that is an almost purely American phenomenon, or are you just meming?
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>>52604065
t. jamal
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>>52604065
>whereas at the very least protestants make an attempt at following the Word of God.

They're cunts too though, honestly..
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>>52604134
Why precisely? Cause we don't support your moronic Marxist ideas?
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>>52604063
>if i post the same false shit over and over again, it will be true!
You have no ground to stand on, so you resort to lies and trickey. Such is the way of protestant cults.

>>52604180
>protestant countries are the heart of cultural marxism and cuck culture and other degeneracy
>nah i'll just keep pretending as if everyone else is the problem
proddy cultist mental gymnastics
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>>52604062
I specified that it has nothing to do with socialism, but with economic planning with a centralized bureaucracy. Japan had the MITI and South Korea the EPB, which made quinquennial plans and revised every month the performance of chaebols. East Asian economics are the best ones. It's like a more perfect form of fascist or socialist economics.
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>>52604240
you got your head so far up your own ass, you don't even know what you're talking about.
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>>52604240
>if i post the same false shit over and over again, it will be true!
Literally Catholicism in a nutshell
>>52604240
>his pope is a fucking communist
>his church bashes capitalism
>his church turns towards cultural Marxism
>hurry yuo is fault
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Better that the government is in charge of religion rather than a bunch of amateurs or god forbid the pope
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If i had a time machine i would go back and kill all catholic leaders in my country, adopt based Luteranism and force everyone to learn to read...
Nowadays, we would be 1st world... No doubts!

I fuckin hate catholicism but well... people in my country have never been an example of enlightment so...
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>>52604180

Mostly because the radical ones (pretty much the only ones left today) are backwards folk that reject science and don't vaccinate their children because 'gods will'.. The only place where Polio still breaks out once in a while are Protestant enclaves.. Also, Calvinism (the most prominent strain of Protestantism in this country) is very much a 'NO FUN ALLOWED' kind of ideology.. Pretty much everything fun, nice and indulgent is considered to be sinful, and they really do their best to bring that point home when their children are young. They're just cunts.. The only upside is that they don't have a central figure of authority like the Catholic Church has, and that they tend to work hard.
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>>52604333
But government is a bunch of amateurs choosen by a bunch of amateurs
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>>52604295
>you got your head so far up your own ass
that is the usual response by people who know nothing, refuse to read, and hold resentment for those who actually do.
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>>52604384
What is so fun? Having sex witg random shores in clubs and getting stds instead of being a moral and productive member of society? Is that so fucking funny?
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Nothing, just northern countries became protestant, and southern became catholic due to his proximity to Rome.

Northern countries have industrial resources that led to a cheap industrialization, but southern countries didnt have ground resources of value like petrol or coal. This led to a more expensive industrialization, that beacame more difficult to improve as agricultury was mor cheaper and profitable in sunny countries like mine.
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>>52604378
>d-do you guys like me yet?!!
>look at this average south brazilian house! average!
you'll fit right in Mr. Barbosa
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>>52604384
true this. And proving my point for being happy this country is build on protestant values. Work hard. But we dropped the 'no fun allowed', which is a win-win situation nowadays,
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>>52599515

Low production due to non-technological advance in corporations
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>>52599742
>only one walloon province is green
>it's right below brussels
What a surprise.
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>>52604535
More like a lose-lose situation. "Muh fun"is just a bunch of degenerates that bring nothing positive. What good is a hard work when you don't have a purpose in your life?
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>>52604384
thimerosal is safe for children, just like lead paint chips. Good job buying into epistemological warfare, but you will never find reality, though it be in front of your face, if you accept the destruction of reason as your reality.

Abolition of Man, CS Lewis. Can you understand what he says? The price may be your immortality... After all, it's only the most important question to answer as long as you live. Or you can rage at americans on 4chan
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>>52604648
Sounds like polebro gets it, Europe is not lost after all
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>>52604648
What good is cheap work when you have nothing in life?
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Kek the fool of Netherlands stopped to reply. Get rekt.
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>>52604470
>What is so fun?
Music. Dancing. The Beatles. Videogames. Harry Potter books, and basically all other popular fiction. Hollywood films. Television in general...
>Having sex witg random shores in clubs and getting stds instead of being a moral and productive member of society?
Who even does that though?
>Is that so fucking funny?
No? But that's not what non-Protestants do.. Non protestants just like to eat bread with butter AND cheese without being called indulgent gluttonous sinners for stacking dairy products on dairy products... And that last thing isn't even a meme, it goes directly to the stupidly scrupulous mentality Calvinists have/had to consider butter+cheese sinful.
>'Zuivel op zuivel is werk voor de duivel'
Dairy on dairy is the devils work.

Probably one of the mean reasons why the Dutch got a reputation for greedyness..
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>>52604744
Hello Spain, I'm here to answer your questions.
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>>52604669
>rage

What rage?
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>>52604716
Your petty fun means nothing to me, I don't give a fucking about drugs, alcohol and whores if I can't marry a proper woman and have a huge family with her because your pathetic fun-based society turns women into whores
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>>52604710
"polebro" is a fuming psycopath and even worse, an imbecile

trying to conceal that with "i'm a real protestant" just shows how demented he is. hard workers who actually value work tend to love what they do. They don't need to constantly reinforce it in their mind and broadcast to everyone else about that fact like a vapid e-celeb whore.
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>>52604744

What did I forget to reply to, anon?
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>>52604823
>I don't give a fucking about drugs, alcohol and whores

But you're literally the only one that keeps bringing them up though...
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>>52600582
If it says that something is wrong in a holy book believed to come to humanity from God, it cannot change. It cannot evolve. God is infinite and all knowing. God doesn't evolve and therefore a religion can't change a core belief.
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>>52599097
When all nonsecularists stop talking like lunatics
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>>52604852
Reply this >>52604245
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>>52604886
Because that's usually what people mean when they whine about me being "no fun allowed"
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>>52604840
fucking bro-tier American
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>>52604840
You fucking wish I was only reassuring myself.
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>>52604245
>I specified that it has nothing to do with socialism, but with economic planning with a centralized bureaucracy.

How is centralising a planned economy not socialism? Directing the capital from the top down is typically something Soviet/Communist states did.. The planned economy pretty much ruined the Soviet Union. South Korea and Japan would no be doing as well as they are if they couldn't operate on global markets. Which are capitalist.

>It's like a more perfect form of fascist or socialist economics.

Yeah, not a fan to be honest.. Even if it does work well, economically. Don't Japs and Koreans kill themselves half the time?

>>52604933

Anytime, darling.

>>52604936

>That's what people usually mean

Not my experience.. You just seem to be rather preoccupied with whores, alcohol and drugs to be honest.
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>>52604905
Hello religious nutcase. How are you doing today?
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>>52605071
Quit projecting because you're pretty shit at it
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>>52605071
But they mixed central planning with an export based economy. Their economic policies were pragmatic.
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>>52604384
>Calvinism is very much a 'NO FUN ALLOWED'' kind of ideology
Where the fuck do you live? Staphorst, Meppel or De Stellingwerven?
>>52604905
>believed to come to humanity from God
Have you even read it? Nowhere does it claim to come from God directly.
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>>52605200
>Quit projecting because you're pretty shit at it

Look m8, I never meant 'whores and drugs' when I said 'no fun allowed' you were the one that brought that up.. For typical forms of fun rejected by stern Calvinists see:
>>52604765
>Music. Dancing. The Beatles. Videogames. Harry Potter books, and basically all other popular fiction. Hollywood films. Television in general...

Obviously pre-marital sex is among the fun they reject as well, but that's just as true for Catholics...

>>52605319
>Where the fuck do you live? Staphorst, Meppel or De Stellingwerven?

I grew up in a Catholic region, but I was raised non religious.. I have some experience with Gereformeerden from the Lisse/Sassenheim area though. The ones that literally do not own a televisions.. (or at least hide they fact that they do..)

>>52605201

Be that as it may, there's no denying the liberal-right policies of Western Europe have made us rich as well.. There are more paths to greatness, apparantly.
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Which country will set up an antipope first to counter the menace destroying our Holy Church?
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>>52605599

The Islamic State.
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>>52605599
The Copts already have one.
Based Egyptians
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>>52604065
>gather wealth unto themselves instead of using it to take care of the widows, the orphans, the poor and the Levites (both those in Jerusalem and those who sojourn among us)
Ever wondered who was in charge of the social system between the years 400~ and 1800s?
Of course you didn't, you don't know history because you are an amerifat.
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>>52605398
Look at the music and dancing 50 years ago, and then the modern ones. They have really become degenerate so I can somewhat understand the distrust
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>>52605656
Copts are not Catholics, you double retard. Seriously, fucking calvinists.
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>>52605698
I know that.
Still they have an antipope.
>Implying I'm a Calvinist
Protestant boogieman?
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>>52605684

Protestants now still don't listen to the Beatles because it's too degenerate for them. Calvinists just hate fun, it's that simple.. Fun is sinful, and only distracts you from the labor and toil you're supposed to give to this world, using the talents god gave you to the fullest.

I'm just not a fan.
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>>52605777
Let me explain something to you. There's this Pentarchy thing going on. Pope is the patriarch of Rome. That does not mean the other patriarchs are antipopes.
An antipope is someone who says the patriarch of Rome is a faker and he is more suitable to the position.
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>>52605865
I'm not like that, but I have my priorities straight. Fun is nothing when you don't do anything but it. Know your limitations, focus on something productive and you can allow yourself to have some kind of stress reliefer
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I would like to remind you young man that 4chan is a christian site and mocking any branch of christianity won't be tolerated.
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>>52606468
This is not pooland, mr. kaczynski.
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>>52596717
Well, if you mean to talk about the difference between North and Latin America, it's because latin countries were colonized solely so their empires could exploit their lands and people, while North America was meant to be an habitation colony for their empire's people.
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>>52605398
Liberalism was related to the imperialism of the 19th century, tho.
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>>52596717
Protestantism didn't cause it, it's just that most industrious countries later became Protestant.

In the 16th and 15th centuries the most successful countries in Europe were Spain and Portugal. After the Reformation, power shifted to The Netherlands, France and later England especially after the Napoleonic Wars. France was a "Catholic country" up until the revolution, and still is culturally Catholic. It's also one of the most successful countries in Europe. It's nothing to do with the specific branch of Christianity people followed.
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