What kind of pathetic nation surrender against their military equal in 5 weeks?
A country of cowards.
Heck France even had considerable British help. And they still got their ass kicked even worse than Poland considering the Soviet Union wasn't even here to help Germany.
And Germany took 2 times less casualties even during the battle, proving once again that a german man is worth at least 2 french(wo)men (without even counting those captured after practicing the french ritual of surrendering).
Delet this
>>52474228
>Heck France even had considerable British help.
>proving once again that a german man is worth at least 2 french(wo)men
And at least 2 anglos, it seems :^)
>>52474082
France did not surrender. Words have meanings, and surrender is not the word for what we did.
>>52474383
tactical cessation of hostilities
>>52474337
A Brit's feets aren't meant for land. By the air and by the sea they provided considerable support. You had only one job.
>>52474434
An armistice actually. A very defavorable one (for us), true, but not a capitulation.
We only win wars we don't have allies, I think
>>52474462
>By the air and by the sea they provided considerable support.
Is that why the German had air superiority during the campaign of France?
Isn't Canada like half french?
they are the same people
>>52474082
hasn't france surrendered to muslims the day after paris happening and confirmed it once again in the elections?
>>52474082
>military equal
But they were Germans? The first Germans should count as 10 everything else. By the end at least two of everything else according to KDR. And that's when their supreme leader had gone kinda loco from exhaustion, drugs, and megalomania.
>>52474683
Shhht Aydar, go home now.
>>52474082
>A FUCKING LEAF
>>52474720
France and Germany are same People.
>>52474082
And they even dare to compare themselves to us.
We had 1.5 smaller army than French, worse technology, Soviets from the other side, Czechoslovaks from the south and we fought as long as France.
Fucking patethic cunts.
>>52474807
Yeah, when your roads are shit because you're a piss-poor country, enemy mobility tends to be reduced.
>>52474788
I want the Carloman Empire back
>>52474807
>Poland most glorious moment = France worst moment
>>52474895
Bait more
>>52474922
What is French most glorious moment? Getting toilets and hygiene from Poland?
>>52474955
>Bait more
But that's true.
Besides, our country had things worth saving, and the live of frenchmen is actually worth something. The worst thing that could have happened to Poland would have been to have the country dismantled, the cities burned and the population slaughtered... that's kinda your usual isn't it?
>>52474577
We have only two provinces where french is spoken and neither of them matter.
>>52475074
>implying Canada as a whole matters
>>52475066
Now I see you're just another butthurt ignorant fuck.
Can't handle the truth? Germans laughed at how fast they beat the France.
>>52474504
Here is an example of how the french use several words for the exact same concept just to sugar coat it.
>>52474769
tolerance doesn't work with muslims, my friend.
you either kill them on streets and in their regions like we did in 90th, or they never learn.
we steal go on rampage from time to time on the churkas here, muslims behave only when they are threatened with direct and letal consequences, look at how their own masters treat them in middle east: each time there is a riot in somewhat stable muslim countries - there is mass-execution following.
>>52475203
It's actually very different
Armistice = between two armies
Capitulation = between two nations
>>52475203
>exact same concept
No. A capitulation is unconditionnal. There were terms to the armistice. It's definitely not the same thing.
>>52474577
Only Quebec and the rest of Canada hates them.
>>52475352
Not true at all. Conditional surrenders are most certainly a thing.
No wonder you frogs surrender so much, you think it doesn't count as a surrender if the enemy lets you choose which pen you sign it with.
>>52475428
Who cares about the opinion of those Americans in denial ?
>>52475497
>surrender so much
Oh please, go back to school
>>52475512
Quebecois are totally hateable though.
>>52474082
Germany had twice the population of France in 1939, twice the economy and twice the army.
>>52475575
Quebecois are the best Northern Americans there are (besides the French, of course)
>>52475636
Like hell they are. They're broke ass gibs me dat assholes.
>>52475428
And Montreal ?
At the end of the day, who gives a fuck what canada thinks?
>>52475713
i'm with nigel
>>52475707
Be careful, your ebonics is showing
>>52475627
>and twice the army.
bullshit.
>>52475712
Montreal is like half Anglo
>>52475712
>US education
>>52475712
You're aware that Montreal is a city in Quebec I hope..
>>52474577
the shit parts only
>>52475864
So is the other part, Alas !
wow, been a while since i last saw such thread on my glorious country.
but the most important question to ask: Who authorised leaf posters to shitpost? that's a severe lack of parenting from UK.
>>52475627
There are literally tons of cunts that had it much much worse against an invasion and fought back.
>>52475935
>Who authorised leaf posters to shitpost?
>no space between sentence and question mark
How un-French of you
>>52475974
Like... France ?
This board is for the discussion of foreign culture and language. Please be respectful.
>>52475935
I understand them, Canada is such a boring child, they prefer Australia or NZ
>>52475796
I had no clue, we don't learn about Canada here
>>52475920
t. someone who doesnt know anything about the bastard spawn of France
Every Frenchmen I've met hates French Canadians more than the average Canadian.
>>52475935
UK is long gone ;_;, America-senpai takes care of us now.
>>52476150
Don't worry, we don't learn about Canada anywhere
>>52476020
Oh yes, because you had to fight the Soviets at the same time. :^)
>>52476008
Don't change the subject now, you got work to do.
>>52476150
Nigger you're straight up retarded.
>>52476204
We did have to fight the German, the Spanish, the Austrian, the Russian, the English... at the same time once.
>>52476190
Why should we hate them ?
They speak (a weird) French, their culture is French...they're our bros
Sorry if they piss you off
>>52476190
That explain a lot. The empire really has fallen.
>>52476286
That was Napoleonic, not WW2
>>52476254
Where are you in some irrelevant flyover shit hole like michigan? Otherwise people here literally don't know general information about Canada
>>52476357
Never claimed otherwise.
>>52476286
cucks
>>52476366
My county has over 1 million people in it, hardly flyover country. You're just a retard.
>>52476414
Yes, all of them.
>>52476303
what is french culture anyway? sucking arab cock and surrendering?
>>52476303
French people consider them arrogant, nuff said.
They have fuck loads of dumb laws in Quebec, everything from having signs in English is illegal unless the font is 70% smaller than the French equivalent, women are prohibited from taking their husbands last name in marriage, complete socialist hellhole.
>>52476325
yep, it's sad
>>52476389
Also, Germshits during Numremberg trials said that if you didn't pussy out in 1939, the war could have ended at september campaign.
Why do you always do this to us?
Same with Napoleon. We said: FIGHT RUSSIA IN UKRAINE. But no you went full retard.
>>52476008
Not him, but some noticed that it was a way to spot French posters (outside of /int/ obviously), as a result I always pay attention to that.
>>52476476
>if you didn't pussy out in 1939
Britcucks were the one who pussied out during the Ruhr offensive.
Everything shameful France ever did, we did it because we were listening to the Brits.
kek
>>52476644
fuck you eternal khazar anglo
Marie Curie is French
>>52476885
And so is Frédéric Chopin.
>>52476885
that's why the thing she discovered is called "Polonium".
>France
Some of you guys are alright. Don't go to the Rhine tomorrow
>>52476933
Exactly, because it's extremely toxic and you want to get away from it.
>>52477012
very rude.
i thought french are our friends. i guess i was wrong.
>>52476457
>Britain talking about sucking dicks and cowardice
>>52474082
>A country of cowards.
That has nukes now. All you have is a meme flag and a powerful neighbor.
>>52476911
They can keep Ludovic Obraniak, though, he's 100% full-blood Polish.
>>52477092
ya the only way you got nukes though was leaving nato in the cold war and then researching with the soviets
being a fucking useless ally once again
>>52477159
>>52476911
Doesn't matter. His heart is in Poland. He made music for his lost homeland, not for France.
>>52474082
*teleport behind you*
>>52477089
>French 'courage'
>>52477159
>>52477210
I bet none of you faggots can even name his single piece or recognize a played tune, so it does not matter.
France is a country with a great military history, so stfu fucking meme country. They are our eternal enemies, but you must show them respect, fucking leaf. It was a matter of bad strategy, that's all.
>one of the most ancient and prestigious empires of the world with one of the proudest military histories in all mankind
>reduced to a meme in only a couple of weeks
>70+ years later the jokes are still going strong
>>52474082
>be socialist America
>rightful clay of your nanny state
>trying to talk shit to France
>>52477210
Why can't Poles stay in Poland, if they love their country so much ?
>>52477309
Oh, the very brave Britian, always the least affected of the countries in an European war
>France
lmao
>>52474082
It was a tactical surrender
Poland fought back, the country was completely flattened by war's end
France didn't fight back, but escaped total annihilation
>>52477201
Got any source for that?
>>52474462
we led the french resistance though. and not a single frenchman is appreciative. rude cunts
>>52477353
Russians and Germans 2bh
>>52477373
who gives a fuck about Europe? lol
>>52477353
It's because we have shit allies like you. Always.
>>52474082
It is a bit unfair, considering that germany was in general superior in military might after the founding of the empire.
>>52477373
To be fair we worked hard at our naval dominance to make sure that was the case.
F I V E
I
V
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>>52477424
Probably because you sunk the French fleet crew and all
>>52477495
W
E
E
K
S
>>52477396
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966_in_France
20 June - President Charles De Gaulle starts visit to the Soviet Union.
30 June - France formally leaves NATO.
11 October - France and the Soviet Union sign a treaty for cooperation in nuclear research.
26 October - NATO moves its HQ from Paris to Brussels.
>>52477479
We do the same.
>current year
>not having a fuck everything that moves in that general area tier navy
The rest of these niggas are pretty retarded huh?
the french were probably thinking it would turn out like verdun
so instead of wasting all those resources and manpower they decided to play it cool
t.clueless
I like teasing the French but this surrender meme is bullshit. Yes, France was beat down hard by the Germans. Guess what? So was everyone else. The British, Poles, Russians, Americans were all fucked up when they gought the Germans on anything like even terms. The Allies eventually ground them down through the combined efforts of the USSR, USA and British Empire but tactically and operationally they rekked us all. Britian had the channel, RAF and Royal Navy, the USSR had endless manpower and the winter. America had vast industrial output and was on the other side of the world. France had no such advantages, they got the blitzkrieg full in the face with nothing to shield them. Nobody could stop it.
>>52477309
>British """courage""" (a French word)
>>52477330
Thanks m8 !
>>52477333
Thanks but "prestigious empire"...Kingdom ok, but Empire...
>>52477388
==> >>52474922
>>52477513
And razed our cities
>>52477660
that guy looks like a typical Frenchman in 2015 actually lel
>>52477660
>ww2
>Poland's most glorious moment
AHAHAHAHAHAAHHA
tell me about french military victories lad :-------D
let's start with 1812 and moscow :^^^)
>>52477621
>So was everyone else. The British, Poles, Russians, Americans were all fucked up when they gought the Germans on anything like even terms.
Poles were double teamed by the Germans and Soviets.
Russians are incompetent and cannot into tactics other than "die until they run out of bullets."
The US and Britain won most every engagement after the US entered the war.
>>52477578
That's 6 years after Gerboise Bleue, the first French nuclear trial in the Algerian desert. Get bent.
>>52477621
Basically this
>>52477578
France had nukes since 1960 though
>>52477735
I prefer Martel fucking up the Moors.
>>52477742
glad someone finally see it
>>52477735
:xxxxxxxx====DDDDDDDDDDDxxxxx
>>52477731
Yea, we're kikes...jej
>>52477735
>let's start with 1812 and moscow :^^^)
When we captured it and the russians had no choice but to burn it?
The govrenor who ordered it later immigrated to France and gave his daughter is marriage to a Frenchman btw, talk about being a cuck (pour nos amis français, cette fille, c'est la comtesse de Ségur)
>>52477754
>its totally okay that we helped the soviets develop nuclear arms in the cold war
>cold war isn't an actual war
>france still manages to surrender to the soviets
>>52477829
They burned it before you could even reach it.
The only ones to ever conquer it was Poles and Mongols before it even mattered.
>>52477621
We used to be pretty mean but respected, shit sucks.
>>52477742
Not sure they were really double teamed, didn't soviets just wait for the Germans to do all the job and then marched into Poland without any opposition? Not cool man, not cool
>>52474504
>capital gets occupied
>I-it's just an armistice guys
>>52477867
Now it's the total opposite
>Poles raging against France
Do you realize your country only exists in the first place because of France? France created it twice out of nothing to weaken Germany and Russia. Poland has been a French puppet state from its reinception. They had no obligation to defend you, you only existed to defend them.
>>52477919
Yes? How is that a contradiction? I'm not saying France did not lost the war, but not every loss is a surrender.
>>52477950
Our experience and soliders were more important than some fucking warsaw dutchy.
>>52477950
>german in charge of banter
joke's on you, germany was created in louvre
>>52477944
A.at least we are rich....
6th highest HDI, 6th highest HDI!!!
Biggest country that high up also!!
>>52478037
In Versailles actually. Having your facts straight is one of the most important things in banter.
>Yfw Canada did more in WW2 than France
>>52478037
Versailles, not the Louvre
>>52478040
No you arent. Some are rich. I'm german myself idiot, sip this bullshit better into another cup.
>>52478037
By germans :^)
>>52477829
>mfw Tchaikovsky composed the awesome Overture 1812 to celebrate that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2W1Wi2U9sQ
>>52478037
>>52478079
>>52478091
>>52478112
GERMANY IS YOUNGER THAN AMERICA
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
One of my favourite things of early WW2 is this:
>despite this being forgotten, in 1920s and 30s every European nation built HUGE systems of defense around their borders
>the French helped the newly formed Czechoslovakia with theirs, structuring the walls, mines, trenches and shit on the basis of the Maginot Line on the French/German border that was supposed to be the next level in military defenses
>Reich invades Czechoslovakia
>they spend quite some time studying and making drills on the French-built trenches
>absolutely wreck the Maginot line in no time, one of the reasons being that they knew already everything about it
Shit is just too funny to me
>>52478112
*prussians
>>52478079
>>52478091
lmao what's the difference all french names sound like shit
>>52478170
>there's more culture and history in Versailles than in all Poland
>>52478037
>banter
It's not banter, it's the truth. Do you really think Napoleon loved Poland or some shit? He just needed a friendly country that could divert Prussian and Russian attention in the East. Same after Versailles. Soviets created Poland as a buffer against the West, now that America has destroyed the European great powers and taken there place you have become an American buffer against Russia. Poles will never ever realize this and instead continue to be sacrificed as pawns for greater powers while being trapped in idiotic romanticist fantasies.
>>52478157
which most of them were Slavs and Balts
GERMANS USELESS ONCE AGAIN
>>52478112
Prussians are actually Wends
you got cuck'd by wends hard
This thread is gold. Arguing basically about who was fucked more brutally over from the Germans. I like this armistice too, keep that up dude, it sure has potential
>>52477855
That's not what you said mike. You said that the only way France got nukes was by leaving NATO and researching with soviets. The Tsar Bomb was first detonated in 61. So in 66, we already had nukes and the soviets already had the biggest bomb. Get bent again.
>>52477742
When we did fight them we had overwhelming advatgages like thwey had no fuel (North Africa) otr in Europe they had no fuel and no air force and most of their best units were on the Eastern Front. Even then they kept us out of Germany for almost a year. There's no way we would have beaten a full-strength German army and air force. Look what happened when the Germans blitzed us at Kasserine and the Ardennes and they hardly had planes or artillery by that time.
>>52478214
This is simply not true and you're very rude again.
Germans are the enemy, not Poles.
>>52477201
France never left NATO you uneducated dumbass.
Talking about useless ally, thanks a lot for creating ISIS, allowing the Paris attack, you fucktard.
>>52478156
>absolutely wreck the Maginot line in no time
They didn't, the Maginot line was untouched when the battle was over.
And it served its purpose perfectly: it forced the German to go through Belgium, thus securing British and Belgian support. It's afterwards that thing got messier.
And you know who broke its teeth of French fortfications? The Italians, who completely failed their invasion of France.
>>52478217
>Germany
>calling other nations American buffer states
m8...
>>52478156
they didn't wreck it, they sneakily passed around it
bunch of cunts
in fact, it served its purpose: to prevent them to pass through it
too bad they didn't expanded it further in the north
also fucking Belgians
>>52478170
>says Poland
Khzzzzckkckczyyz kkkrkrkryzkh ?
>>52478277
Not the Allies' fault the Germans sucked at logistics, strategy and diplomacy
>>52478217
do you think I give a fuck?
we're all puppets in the hands of our greatest ally so be a good goyim for once and laugh at frogs
>>52478214
>there are more negroes in Versailles than in all Poland
>>52478157
No, Germans. Napoleon III. even managed to make the Bavarians, traditionally French lap dogs, turn against him. Only the Hessians and some minor principalities weren't at Versailles.
>>52478296
>Maginot line was untouched
>And it served its purpose perfectly
>butthurt Poles
Nothing new, but this time, it's not about Russia
>white goyim fights against each other ITT
>khazar kikes rub their hands in glory
>>52478329
We don't pretend we won the war though. We were defeated, conquered and colonised. Brits meanwhile ... they were celebrating victory while their greatest ally was busy dismantling their Empire.
Quiet guys, you are gonna wake it
>>52478156
The line worked well against the italians ;)
>>absolutely wreck the Maginot line in no time
False.
>>52478156
Not one of the Maginot line fortesses was captured. The main force went round it. The French knew this would happen, they're not idiots. The north was left open to funnel the more numerous German army into a narrow front where they could be fought and a decisive battle brought on. That was the point of the Maginot line, to enable the French army to hold a long front with relatively few men.
>>52478290
see
>>52477578
you did leave nato
also I love french thought process they only will "'help''' allies when it directly benefits them.
>usa wants a to form a coalition to go to war with in the middle east and france refuses and flip flops on decisions
>france suffers a fraction of the damage of 9/11 and begs usa to fight IS with them
>>52478231
Well, the CEA was still mostly directed by communists from the beginning though, and the nuclear industry historically had a lot of communists higher ups and networks. It was more or less a gift from De Gaulle to them to let him alone somehow, as they were quite powerful back then. Plus both had interest in it, De Gaulle wanted nuclear independance and communists didn't want the USA too be involved in this.
>>52478458
Oh yes, we're gonna wake a meme.
Those faggots train with broomsticks and grow tits. They can'd do shit. They were always little germanised peasants before us.
>>52478432
>muh butthurt
WE VOUS HONHON N MERDE
>>52478567
>you did leave nato
NATO is both an alliance and a unified military. France left the unified command, not the alliance
>>52478567
>also I love french thought process they only will "'help''' allies when it directly benefits them.
Meanwhile, USA only go to war for the love of freedom.
>>52475352
>France accepts that German forces occupy its atlantic coast and northern regions, including Paris. The remaining parts are Ruled by a German puppet untill they get annexed two years down the line
France litteraly gave its entire country to Germany, how is this not surrendering?
>>52478567
>also I love french thought process they only will "'help''' allies when it directly benefits them.
as opposed to?
>>52478682
>N MERDE
DAS MORE LIKE IT
>>52478567
>huuuuur u betrayed us in ME !!!
We followed you during your war in Afghanistan...gulf war...Libya...now we're fighting together against ISIS but WOW, we didn't follow you in Irak (or Iraq...fuck it) !!! We're ungrateful cunts, cowards, traitors !!!!!!!
>>52478738
>two years down the line
It wasn't in the treaty you know.
>>52478567
>france suffers a fraction of the damage of 9/11 and begs usa to fight IS with them
They've been bombing Irad and Syria for month, and it was actually the US that begged the coalition to help them. Hell, even Belgium had to participate.
>>52478794
>wasn't in the treaty
LITERALLY
THE
FRENCH
EXCUSE
FOR
WW2
AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
>>52478567
France didn't leave NATO, dumbass
France left NATOs integrated command, not NATO itself.
France was still in the alliance, but without american troops bitching around, and without foreign officers telling us what our military should do.
Also, France did help in Afghanistan and had nothing to benefit from that.
As France ( and Germany ) predicted, the Iraq war went full retard and only led to a destablization of the middle east, and to the creation of ISIS.
>a decade later they surrender to hungry impoverished jungle gooks who isn't even close to their military might
>>52478277
And there's no way the Germans would have beatwn a full strength US army either, we also had to divide our sources.
Being stupid enough to choose to fight a two front war is not an excuse.
>>52478567
We don't beg you to help us
You, anglos, always have to have a big coalition with you, we're fighting together, that's it.
>>52479011
You don't get it. When it's France it's begging ; when it's the US it's leadership.
>>52478926
Don't make me hate your country, please
>>52475351
>>52475352
One half of the country was given to germany, with the capital. The other half was forced to act as factually vassal with obligations to fulfill.
Then the last half was invaded anyway with no resistance.
Trying to sugarcoat it as anything but capitulation is really pathetic.
>>52479071
Don't bully our based Mexican/Chinesey colony frog.
Nothing like the historical revision of World War by fat NEETs who can't even cook their food but somehow think they will survive a war.
>>52479116
That's not sugercoating it. The only reason you'd believe so is because you are too stupid to know the words meanings past their connotations.
>>52479178
>implicating things that were never implicated
>>52479136
But THEY bully us
>>52475244
>we steal go on rampage from time to time on the churkas here, muslims behave only when they are threatened with direct and letal consequences, look at how their own masters treat them in middle east: each time there is a riot in somewhat stable muslim countries - there is mass-execution following.
Look what happened when Jimmy Carter decided he was the god of human rights and world peace and that the Shah had to go because he had a secret police force that did some less-than nice things to Mudslime troublemakers.
>>52479213
>a frog trying to pretend he knows what english words mean
The leaf is right.
>>52479071
>the french lion is awakening
BEHOLD EVERYONE
>>52478926
> irrelevant country which has no military record and no colony
> pretend to know shit about colonial and asymetric wars.
Even the US of A weren't able to deal with Viet Nam
When it comes to those types of imperialist asymetric war, the only solution is to genocide the whole population.
>>52479242
They're allowed to bully you. They were once American clay which automatically makes them better than pretty much everyone.
>>52479273
>the only solution is to genocide the whole population.
If only Gemany had been able to do that with Poland...
>>52478707
>>52478750
as opposed to helping an ally when he is attacked
you couldn't even manage your colonies correctly and the result was the vietnam war. we could of just said tough shit with your colony rebelling france go shit in a hat but instead we had to do all the work while the french just gave up before it was halfway over as per usual.
then 9/11 happens and you just go oh no french people died not our problem
theres a reason why we let new zealand into the 5 eyes and not you, because even new zealand is a more useful ally than france.
>>52479273
>Even the US of A weren't able to deal with Viet Nam
Sure we did. The North couldn't even manage to advance until 2 years after we left.
>>52479273
Wish you lot would have done that in Algeria.
>>52479315
The USA only exists because of France.
France>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>USA.
>>52479260
>the french lion
>>52479116
again, the french army was DEFEATED
What could France do except surrender ?
Oh sure, we could do like poland, and get into the train for a magic trip into the gas chamber.
>>52479257
The only meaning of "capitulation" that applies here is the ottoman one... and everybody knows that's not what the leaf means.
>>52479390
>The USA only exists because of France
We only helped because you took Canada desu.
>>52479432
>The only meaning of "capitulation" that applies here is the ottoman one..
Of course it does New Algeria, of course it does.
>>52479335
>as opposed to helping an ally when he is attacked
As we always have done.
>then 9/11 happens and you just go "Oh you want to invade Afghanistan, OK sempai"
Fixed.
>>52479335
> instead we had to do all the work while the french just gave up before it was halfway over as per usual.
This. France immediately gave up their already pathetic support for south Vietnam the moment the US stepped in to do all the work.
Can't even manage one old colony properly. And the only one that was actually looking for active cooperation with them at that.
>>52474504
Kek
>>52479451
>>52479390
And France didn't even show up until 1781.
The exception being Lafayette but he was so based he became America so he doesn't count.
>>52479260
Actually, yea, an angry French people used to be bloodsthirsty
>>52479513
Laugh all you want, that won't make it any less true
>>52479365
But you couldn't get the North back either.
The only solution for this would have been a genocide and a total destruction of the north.
Just like France managed to pacify Algeria, but had to left because it was just a military occupation.
Wining the war is easy in asymetric conflict, the hardest part is wining the peace.
>>52479424
Or fight and die with a weapon in your hand, like those brave dominion soldiers who clearly outperformed french soldiers even tho we had very little experience of war with Australia.
>>52479531
Yeah but that's furia franscese, not "French lion". The only French lion I know is the Belfort Lion (in honor of colonel Denfert, who kept a bessieged Belfort up and fighting)
>>52479486
>French war opposition
>Following the September 11 attacks by Al-Qaeda and the declaration of a "War on Terror" by President George W. Bush, an invasion of Iraq was proposed. During the United Nations Security Council deliberations, French Minister of Foreign Affairs Dominique de Villepin made it clear France would neither support nor participate in the invasion.[1] This caused some Americans to accuse France of betrayal, reigniting prior anti-French sentiment in the United States.[2]
>>52479404
>>52479260
>"Polish lion".....oops, eaten by the Russian bear
>>52479566
>But you couldn't get the North back either.
We never tried you idiot. Our mission was to keep the north out of the south not conquer it.
>>52479630
And tell me, what did Iraq have to do with 9/11? How did Iraq attacked you?
>>52479526
> And the US of A didn't even showed up until 1942 ...
>Same thing goes for 1917
>>52479534
Double kek, Vichy pansy
>>52479531
>>52479619
>>52479631
PLS NO BULLY
>>52479608
Meh
We already did it during WW1
>>52479273
>Even the US of A weren't able to deal with Viet Nam
They didn't surrender to Vietnam :^)
>>52479566
>But you couldn't get the North back either.
Because everyone in the international community was bitching every time the US of Freedom were proposing an invasion, including France.
The northern cities were bombed several times and could have been reduced to dust had the US been granted the international support to launch a full scale land occupation afterward.
>>52474082
lel anglo butthurt
>>52479724
Yeah, dying and then having your effort wrecked by Americans because not enough of them died in the war so they don't want to dismantle Germany (which was the only solution to keep it peacful) can get boring, no wonder we didn't want to do it a second time.
>>52476150
Some Americans do. Even if it were true that Americans don't learn about Canada, why would you post about something you know little about?
>>52479714
Well forgive us but with how quick the French surrenders to the nazis it was difficult to believe that you didn't want to be part of the 3rd reich.
>>52479744
>implying France did
Is mistaking "losing a war" and "surrendering" some kind of meme here?
>>52479788
>2015ada
>anglo
>>52479531
>>52479619
>>52479631
>DAMAGE CONTROL
>>52479819
Many in France were nazi sympathizers. In the US and the UK as well.
>>52479848
that's actually the only reason why he's obsessed with us desu
>>52479566
>Just like France managed to pacify Algeria, but had to left because it was just a military occupation.
This has nothing to do with it. US forces only had the mandate to protect southern
Vietnam. And they held on to it impeccably, destroying the major northern backed uprisings so well the congs almost considered surrendering after that.
>>52479744
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior
>be france
>lose war against green peace
>have to pay 8.16 million dollars to green peace
>don't even give an apology in order to save what little face france has left
even green peace can beat france
>>52479890
>DAMAGE CONTROL
Something Poland never learned to do properly :^)
Good damage control means being able to lose a war but still seat with the victors at the end.
>>52479760
I still have no idea how lefties wrapped their heads around that back then.
>be south vietnam
>be constantly getting invaded by your neighbor
>have strong ally willing to smash them into sawdust
>world says "nuh uh you can't invade back, no fair."
And then their country falls because of it. What a bunch of bullshit.
>>52479744
You're going full retard here, flip
>>52479717
Don't worry, we'll not dismember your country !
>>52479936
>lose war against green peace
The nuclear trials did take place, didn't they?
If that's what you have to dig up to try bantering France, I think we're done here.
>>52479901
No one in the US or UK surrendered to the Germans in two weeks. Why provide "help" to a country that clearly is happy with their situation?
>>52479608
French fought harder during the Battle of France than during WWI, check both french and germans casualties.
You shitty canadians can't know what war is like, the only threat to canada is fucking polar bears and alcoholic natives.
Also, french soldiers actually died with a weapon in their hand, defending Dunkerque while british troops were evacuating to great britain.
Sure it's easy to fight to the end, when the worse strategic scenario is actually having to retreat your troops through the channel, or through the ocean.
The French army is glorious, disciplined and heroic and has won most wars its been in. The French military in WW2 was a victim of circumstances, the tiny US military at the time, basically a small militia with interwar equipment, would have fared even worse
>>52479951
1 month 15 days
>>52480007
Britain is an island (and they've a good navy/airforce, ok !) and America is not even in Europe
>>52479972
The US made the North sign a peace treaty with the South, then we left.
2 years later the North attacked the South.
If commies had any honor like civilized human beings there would be no question it was a victory.
>>52480087
1 month 5 days ;^)
>>52480087
That's more than 35 days is it not?
How did Poles hold out for longer against the Germans and Soviets than France could against just the Germans?
>>52480005
>goal was to eliminate green peace a fucking irrelevant organization
>fuck it up as per usual and pay then 8.16 million
>claim it was a success
or you know you could just ignore green peace instead of blowing up their boat and failing at it
>>52480007
No one in the US or the UK had to face germany, though ...
Belgium was a better ally to France than the UK ...
>>52480180
>How did Poles hold out for longer against the Germans and Soviets than France could against just the Germans?
They did not.
>>52479967
You can thanks the united federation of Yurocucks and whatever third world shithole the Soviet paid to bitch about something they didnt give a fuck about.
No Southern capitalistic Vietnam with a healthy expression of high South East Asian culture.
>identityless colonists bash France to give themselves a closer anglo feel
>poles jump in to try to convince people they weren't shit
every time
>>52480191
Our if you're going to blow up their boat at least don't be a fag and make sure you refuse to pay them when they bitch.
>>52480191
We're just too nice with hippies, sometimes...
>>52480180
if you can't know, it's either because you're lazy and can't read simple wikipedia articles or you're just dumb, or hell you're just here to troll.
>>52480191
>goal was to eliminate green peace a fucking irrelevant organization
How could you imagine that our goal when sinking one of their boats was to eliminate the whole organization? Are you genuinely stupid?
The only goal was to prevent them from interfering with the nuclear trial ; and they did not interfere.
>>52480199
Of course we didn't have to, but we still did. You cucks were invaded and still couldn't be assed to fight for your country.
>>52480218
They literally did though. Warsaw held out far longer than Paris even after being shelled to shit.
>>52480009
>check both french and germans casualties.
Majority of French casualties are captured soldiers. So basically you surrendered massively even in the heat of battle.
And yeah you still managed to lose 2 times more lives than the Germans, which is really pathetic.
>>52480245
>he didn't call us identityless
THANK YOU FRANCE
>>52480191
the goal was simply to prevent the ship to enter nuclear tests locations
>>52480110
>Not giving a fuck about keeping your word with some Yank world policemen
>Having honour
These aren't the same thing Jamal
>Poles being this butthurt
>Americans needlessly attacking France
Quality thread.
>>52480231
Why do yuropoors ruin everything good in this world?
>>52480066
You can turn off your VPN Pierre.
The French are very proud people.
They've thanked us all a million times for helping them regain their country during WW2.
There's no question about it, they are grateful people.
In return, all they expect of us is to be grateful for helping us win our independence.
Their gift to us, the statue of liberty, speaks volumes. They fully understand the core concept of America and that statue (and the inscription on it) is to remind us of that whenever we lose our way.
Just fuckin leave it alone.
There's plenty of legitimately shitty countries in this world to pick on in this world and they're not one of them.
>>52480381
They signed the treaty with the South Vietnamese you retard.
Not even you completely broke your treaty with us after the Revolutionary war and you're the most perfidious fucks on the planet.
how this stale of a topic can bait a 300+ reply thread in this day and age is beyond me
>>52480334
>held out far longer than Paris
Well yeah, Paris was declared an open city and was not part of the campaign, that's not really hard to last longer than that.
>inb4 the French didn't even defend their capital
That's smart and sensible, if you have things worth preserving (unlike, of course, Poland)
>>52480498
(and Paris was no longer the capital city at that time btw)
>>52480468
Epic post. Upvote.
>>52480468
>They've thanked us all a million times for helping them regain their country during WW2.
Oh yeah?
>In 1966 upon being told that President Charles DeGaulle had taken France out of NATO and that all U.S. troops must be evacuated off of French soil President Lyndon Johnson mentioned to Secretary of State Dean Rusk that he should ask DeGaulle about the Americans buried in France. Dean implied in his answer that that DeGaulle should not really be asked that in the meeting at which point President Johnson then told Secretary of State Dean Rusk:
>"Ask him about the cemeteries Dean!"
>That made it into a Presidential Order so he had to ask President DeGaulle.
>So at end of the meeting Dean did ask DeGaulle if his order to remove all U.S. troops from French soil also included the 60,000+ soldiers buried in France from World War I and World War II.
>DeGaulle, embarrassed, got up and left and never answered.
Real thankful.
>>52480385
it's just banter you uptight wanker
>>52480586
>DeGaulle
Who's that?
>>52480066
>Look here Jacques, when you peer out of this tube the entire world looks different !
also pinko scum t b h fammy wammy
>>52480498
>if we preemptively surrender the city before they ask for surrender it doesn't count as surrender
More mental gymnastics from the frogs.
>>52480468
>I wrote "in this world twice"
God damn it, I need to rest.
>>52480586
>>"Ask him about the cemeteries Dean!"
lol typical made up bullshit sent by emails to old republitards and spreading it to each to each others in between pics of cats
>>52480647
France is more that just Paris. Losing it did not mean losing the war. So yeah, France lasted longer than just Paris.
>>52480641
An anglicized version of your shitty aircraft carrier's name.
>>52480709
>An anglicized version
Oh, that's why I nearly puked. If you want to put capitals in the middle of your names, do so, but let ours alone.
>>52480647
Don't you realize Paris itself has more cultural value than your whole continent ?
Ever heard of Rotterdam ?
Anglos will always be mad at us.
>>52480680
Except that actually happened.
>>52480468
>There's no question about it, they are grateful people.
everytime I got to england its the french that are always the most stuck up to americans
sure the uk think their superior and veiw all as hicks but their still friendlier than the french tourists
we've bailed the french out of both world war and vietnam and they respond by helping soviets due nuclear research.
hell they even protested us in vietnam after they just gave up on the whole affair.
french aren't grateful and aren't a reliable ally
>buttmad Poles and their "greatest ally" America against France
I'm not surprised
It seems we don't really have friends
>>52480772
of course, just like when patton talked shit about France :^)
>>52480680
http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=102;t=000275;p=0
>>52480586
>DeGaulle, embarrassed, got up and left and never answered.
Story of his life.
>>52475512
The reason Anglo Canadians (but not Americans) dislike Quebec is that Quebec takes a lot of welfare in Equalization payments.
>>52480766
If Paris has so much cultural value why did you surrender it to mudslimes and gypsies 50 years after you surrendered it to the Germans?
>>52480783
Muslims rarely have friends.
>>52480776
Being polite is the opposite of being friendly, Jaime. When the french are "stuck up" to you, that just means they respect you enough for that.
>>52480783
>french calling anyone buttmad
>>52480776
>and they respond by helping soviets due nuclear research.
Again, they had the Tsar Bomb in 61. Quit being stupid.
Haven't seen this thread in a while.
Interesting to see it's always the same countries that are the most vocal in their hate of France.
Always Canada, Poland and America. And Spain.
>>52480827
>it's on a website
>>52480823
Patton was kind of a Frenchboo for some stupid reason. One of his few faults.
And no that anecdote was relayed by Dean Rusk himself and originally reported in Time.
>>52480866
Eban
>>52480889
Well, ITT, you're mad, yes
>>52480867
>I respect you so much that I'm going to call you cockroach backwater scum
Oh okay.
>>52480916
It's on a lot of websites.
As in this isn't made up and it actually happened, Pierre.
>>52480911
>forgetting poland
>>52480783
Why should we need friends when we have our own nuclear weapons and spaceport ?
Just remember that if the brits or any european nation wants to send some stuff in space, they need to suck either Russia, France or the USA to launch it.
De Gaulle got us space, military and energy independance, while the brits still has to beg for the US when they want nuclear missiles and planes.
>>52480947
>Dean Rusk
Given that he was working for the Soviets, should we be trusting any Patton quote that comes through Mr Rusk?
>>52480586
>americans being cunts as usual
De Gaulle wasn't embarassed, he was appalled that Johnson would use such a petty argument to try denying France its independence.
>>52480911
Oh hey look another proxyfag. You'll get spotted as long as you can't communicate in English properly.
>>52481039
Woule be a shame if someone Monroe Doctrined that spaceport..
>>52480947
desu I find it disrespectfull for the families to not rapatriate the bodies, but I guess that was on pirpose to had some political weight and to remind us how you immesively benefitzs from those conflicts and thus never made any sacrifices.
>>52480586
Cringe, Johnson is such a crybaby
>>52481070
>shocked at being treated like a cunt when you act like a cunt
French people in a nutshell really.
>>52481070
Wanting to be sovereign is an insult for americans.
>>52481073
>Implying we use proxys
>>52480988
>>I respect you so much that I'm going to call you cockroach backwater scum
>Oh okay.
Well yeah "I respect your country enough to know that you are not acting like that because you are an american, but only because you are some scummy cockroach". You deserved it, and being honest with you about that is respect.
>>52480783
>>52481039
Don't say that, we're still friends
>>52481080
That's what the nukes are for.
>>52481080
Would be a shame if someone Force de Frapped those national parks.
>>52480776
>hell they even protested us in vietnam after they just gave up on the whole affair.
People around the world protested Vietnam because they were against the invasion. They were the same '68er generation that was for decolonization as well
Just a reminder that FRANCE was a third world shithole before they met POLAND. They shitted outside, ate with dirty unwashed hands, haven't washed themselves.
>In many aspects, Polish culture had a positive influence on France. At Wawel, the French were introduced to new technologies of septic facilities, in which litter (excrement) was taken outside the castle walls.[19] On returning to France, Henry ordered the construction of such facilities at the Louvre and other palaces.[19] Other inventions introduced to the French by the Polish included a bath with regulated hot and cold water, as well as forks. Henri III (1551–1589) [...] he is widely credited for having introduced the fork into France.[20]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_III_of_France
FRANCE BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
>>52481073
Just stop m8.
>>52481087
No one repatriated bodies at that time. Perservartion on that scale was not really feasible during wartime.
It's more respectful to the soldier and family to give the soldier an honorable burial on the field of battle than to deliver him home to his mother a disfigured and rotten puddle of goo in a box.
>>52481139
How is not wanting foreign bases on you soil acting like a cunt?
>>52481087
>but I guess that was on pirpose to had some political weight and to remind us how you immesively benefitzs from those conflicts and thus never made any sacrifices.
Without this attitude you would be speaking Russian by now. They can't just shoot everyone that refuses to enroll like the slavs.
>>52481234
>Force de Frapped
Uhh, yes that order is for me, Barista :DDD
>>52480776
typical bullshit made by the same hatefull butthurt americans who just wish the world would hate the French with them.
>>52481234
Not at all, we could use more European clay.
>>52481155
France is friendly but equal, not friendly and puppet ( like those guys we freed you from )
>>52481282
But anon, I do speak Russian.
>>52481323
WUZ
>>52481341
Basically, yeah
>>52481281
Maybe because we were trying to protect you from the Soviets and you were making it as difficult as possible to do so just so you could pretend you were still relevant enough to do so yourselves (you couldn't.)
That's called being a prideful cunt.
>>52481234
>Would be a shame if someone Force de Frapped those national parks.
Kek. That would be a very short war.
>>52481281
He's probably a Neoconservative (type of hardline kosher conservative)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism#Opinions_concerning_foreign_policy
>>52481378
Glorious Frenchmen
>>52480468
the french people showed their true colors in vietnam and the cold war
https://youtu.be/9L3EXLfgIYw?t=39
this movie is fake but its shows how the french people started to view the war. after the usa got involved France just gave up and the french people actually did start to hold protest rallies were they did say that they stood by the Vietnamese people
the french always try to be independent from america and spit at us in the process by doing things like leaving nato, working with the soviets, and abandoning the vietnam war and protesting about us attacking northern territory instead of just defending the south
its true that the french are our oldest ally but their not our most reliant
http://www.pewglobal.org/database/indicator/1/survey/all/
right now their sucking up to us because of the paris attacks and have a higher aproval rating than uk but look at the past few years. they've been below 50% and went as low as 39% approval rating meanwhile uk has been consistent and never went down below 50%
>>52481039
Ah yes, who needs friends when you have stinky space cheese.
>>52481070
>Is in the fortunate position of having an overbearingly friendly nation protect it
>"End French occupation hon hon"
>>52481087
We couldn't ship back all the bodies, and preservation of the corpses was an issue. We buried them with your permission, mind you.
>>52481154
>that is respect
Being a jackass to someone isn't respectful at all, though.
>>52475351
Half of your territory was directly ruled by Germany half and the other half between German puppets. Your nation capitulated and gave Germany control. No matter how you try to frame it, it was a complete surrender.
>>52481501
Fuck off reddit. No one needs neocon explained to them you 12 year old fucking faggot.
>>52481571
>Being a jackass to someone isn't respectful at all, though.
When he deserves it it is.
>>52481579
Not if you go by the definition of that word but hey, feel free to come up with your own.
>>52481417
Well, you'd join America and we'd nuke you so...yea, a short war...FOR YOU
>>52481579
Yea, it was, so what ? Our history didn't begin in 1940
>>52481579
We won't blame you if you can't get the difference between armistice and capitulation.
It's a known fact that america doesn't know shit about war rights.
Did Medecin Sans Frontieres surrendered too when you bombed them ?
>>52481814
France does not have nearly enough nukes to dickwave like that I'm afraid.
I'd like to interject for a moment.
Soldiers aren't responsible for their leader's bad decisions. The governement could have decided to keep the fight, creating more death and destructions with the same result at the end, and the army would have done it.
The brits had the opportunity to retreat and put their shit together after the first blow. France didn't, and accepting the defeat meant that France would cease to exist militarily.
You can keep meme'ing all you want but the british ground forces probably couldn't have done better in the same situation, and neither the US army, which was a joke during the interwar period.
>>52481873
>Did Medecin Sans Frontieres surrendered too when you bombed them ?
They tried to but we don't answer the phone when Muslims beg for their lives.
>>52475151
>Germans
>laughing
Now I know you're making shit up.
>>52481609
>>52481571
>>Is in the fortunate position of having an overbearingly friendly nation protect it
>>"End French occupation hon hon"
Colonization or military occupation is not protection, militaries in fact are usually used to try to prevent it. The French military is what protects France
>>52481609
It's entirely plausible foreigners don't know about US politics
>>52481282
I like how the first post in that reply chain is saying how the french are so thankful to us americans for our sacrifices in ww2
and then this frog is saying that all the bodies of the american soldiers that died to liberate them are just a political stunt and are only there to shame the french
frogs can't be thankful because it would mean being humble and losing some of what little pride they have left.
>>52481665
Oh I think I understand what you're getting at, I was saying it isn't respectful to call someone a jackass but you're saying that it's respectful to identify not all Americans are jackasses.
ok.
>>52481814
>pic related
>>52482018
Yes, as we can see from Paris you're doing a really good job at it too.
>>52482018
Motherfucker having a joint Army base is not occupation nor is it colonization.
Fuck off you lefty faggot, you have no idea what you're talking about outside of the one Howard Zinn book you read three weeks ago.
>>52481565
>they've been below 50% and went as low as 39% approval rating
Ask yourself why.
>>52482097
Well it was fun banter lads. I need to go to sleep now: tomorrow I will sell some material that will help merchant companies to ruin the environment in the US for cheap oil, and I need to be fresh for that.
>>52481234
I wouldnt trust France to win against India atm, let alone do any significant damage against the USA.
>>52482258
>implying anyone gives a fuck about North Dakota
You niggas really need to read a good book about WWII and stop spamming memes. They literally had no other option. But hey, I guess its easy to talk when you are protected by an ocean.
>inb4 proxyfag
>>52482229
because you're ungrateful cunts?
hell it was lowest in 2008 when obama took over who's politics is closer to the french with his universal healthcare and such so I don't know what you were hating about this time.
>>52482229
1. Refused to invade Iraq, our fault t b h.
2. Constant protesting of the war on terror, even now.
3. Le snooty cheese man meme
Not to mention the fact that arrogance seems to irradiate from your country like Chernobyl irradiates Eastern Europe.
>>52482336
South Dakota here, can confirm, worst hat ever.
>>52482097
>I like how the first post in that reply chain is saying how the french are so thankful to us americans for our sacrifices in ww2
It wasn't a sacrifice, the US gained immensely from WW2 and suffered few military dead and virtually no civilian dead/destruction. It was a gigantic profit and power expansion. If anything the US should be thankful to Germany and France for destroying themselves so it could cruise to easy superpower status
Even worse is decades later, milking the historical event for political capital to try to justify a sleazy thing (forced occupation)
>>52482392
Butthurt Quebekistanese detected.
Why don't you get a job and stop sucking money from us, faggot?
>>52482160
As said De Gaulle " We will have enough weapon to kill 80 millions russians. I don't think someone would attack a country which could kill 80 millions russians, even if they have enough to kill 800 millions french, implying there were 800 millions french. "
>>52482160
>Yes, as we can see from Paris you're doing a really good job at it too.
The US military does not guard theaters from terrorists you dumb hick. Not in the US or France, terror attacks like 9/11 and Paris are only prevented by police, and government agency investigations
>>52482167
It is in the minds of the people living there. Bases are highly controversial at best and considered an occupation at worst. The French military is in charge of protecting that country
>>52482557
Don't worry about it, it's not like we have the capabilities to shoot down those pretty little rockets... or no wait we do.
>implying we wouldn't waste a few large cities for the chance to genocide frogs like Pappy England
>>52481874
>300 nukes
Enough for Canadians
>>52482463
>It wasn't a sacrifice, the US gained immensely from WW2 and suffered few military dead
So half a million people for someone else's war is "few" now?
Seriously GTFO off the internet, you have gender studies 101 and cultural marxism lab classes to prepare for.
>>52482277
they couldn't beat poo in the loo
believe it or not india actually has a big military
>>52482415
>>52482426
Obama took power in 2009, and has not pushed for universal healthcare
The main reason for continued low approval ratings are Libya (which caused anger at France's government), Syria, CIA torture and other problems, NSA surveillance scandal and us pop-cultural exports
>>52482681
> Implying our missiles and submarines are pile of shit, which they aren't.
>>52482668
>It is in the minds of the people living there. Bases are highly controversial at best and considered an occupation at worst.
Not to anyone other than the French.
You don't hear bongs bitching about it do you? Hell the Poles are BEGGING for them.
You can't say that you want us to defend you and at the same time make it as hard as humanly possible to do so out of misplaced pride. That is called being a huge faggot.
>>52482018
Oh no, Chris is a Francophobe...!
>>52482463
they died to liberate another country
we could of been like the french during vietnam and just said fuck off frogs and let the rot
there's now way britian could have pulled off normandy without us
>anglo faggots crying from their islands that the french didn't feel like having hell on their soil a second time
If germans successfully landed in britain they would have surrendered in 3 days
>oh wow you didn't get occupied for us to sign the peace deal again. Bunch of wimps :^)
>>52482681
>genocide frogs like Pappy England
Wot
>>52482792
Well I'm far right so no cultural marxism for me. You know that one reason the French dislike the US is for that reason though?
And no, the US fought WW2 as its own war. It was the ultimate opportunity to expand, surround the soviets, and leap to power with a military, nuclear expansion and economic boom.
>>52482668
I never said the US guarded theaters, but your military IS responsible for protecting your nation.
As such, your failure at 'discovering' a hinted attack merely compounds that your nation, military, and intelligence agencies are utterly incompetent.
>>52482865
Compared to ours they are.
Mind you we have the exact/more capabilities to do so then you do, and we also have assets that nullify your own nuclear arsenal. You may do some damage, but you're country will be glass.
>>52483004
>I'm far right
Doesn't sound like it.
>>52482821
Both China and India has huge forces when it comes to number, but they lack power projection.
Sure they has strong militaries, but couldn't do much more than defend their territory, since they lack of ships and planes able to effectively send their troops abroad.
Though they don't give a shit about fighting abroad, unlike NATOs forces.
>>52483004
For someone far righr you certainly are soaking up the blue pill narrative.
The US got involved in Europe because Hitler declared war on the US, not vice versa. Ther is absolutely no way the US could have known in 1942 that entering the European front would be advantageous when they had an entire other war on their hards.
Far right my ass, you're spouting classic left wing university conspiracy theories.
>>52482878
>You don't hear bongs bitching about it do you?
Yes, sometimes you do. If a country doesn't want bases, you don't build them. If it's politically controversial, it's a lose scenario. Butthurt belt nations like Poland are another story.
France though is a big country with a large economy and population. They could and do support a large military that can help its neighbors fight off the USSR in the extreme case of a hot war.
>>52482887
Must be the hormones
>>52483004
>the french hate cultural marxism
thats why they had all those rallies saying not all muslims
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkM-SDNoI_8
truly flowers is the most powerful weapon of the french military
remember to show love and peace when muslims kill all your people
>>52483169
India and China have carriers though
>>52483169
>unlike NATOs forces.
then why'd you fucking leave NATO in the past
poland has reasons to hate you but half the hate from the american in this thread is because france keeps flip flopping on all their decisions and are never truly committed to one goal.
>>52483109
>As such, your failure at 'discovering' a hinted attack merely compounds that your nation, military, and intelligence agencies are utterly incompetent.
Well, they did manage to stop muslims from hijacking one of their planes and crashing it on Paris, so...
>>52483212
>France though is a big country with a large economy and population. They could and do support a large military that can help its neighbors fight off the USSR in the extreme case of a hot war.
And none of this applied after WW2.
It was literally "pay to protect us but do it somewhere else."
>>52482792
Half a million over 60 millions.
And your country benefited so much from being involved that it was worth it.
Yes Americans soldiers died to liberate France, but it was because France was on their way to Germany, not because the poor french needed to be helped.
>>52483400
Well then if you were going to doubt our motives anyway I suppose we really should have occupied you. At least ir would have prevented you from sellng every piece of American tech you could get your hands on to the Soviets.
>>52483109
" Compared to ours they are. "
http://theaviationist.com/2015/03/05/us-aircraft-carrier-sunk-by-subs/
though, M-51 missiles are in the same tier as the last gen russian missiles or the Trident missiles.
They aren't like some shitty Chinese/Indian rusty missiles.
The whole point is to do as much damages as possible, because we know we would get glassified if we were to be attacked by a nuclear power ( Russia ).
You can see the idea of DPRK having nuclear weapons scares everyone, if they had even a dozen of those, with missiles able to get them to the USA, it would be a real deal changer.
>>52483109
>I never said the US guarded theaters, but your military IS responsible for protecting your nation.
>As such, your failure at 'discovering' a hinted attack merely compounds that your nation, military, and intelligence agencies are utterly incompetent.
If you mention the attack on Paris as somehow having anything to do with the military then it does. The French military had no more to do with failing to stop the Paris attacks than the US military did failing to stop the McVeigh bombing or 9/11 attacks. If their police and intelligence community make a mistake, its their job to fix it. France's internal issues are only the responsibility and domain of the French.
Sorry Tom Clancy but France has no conventional military enemies, due to geography and good diplomacy
>Doesn't sound like it.
Far right/left are against wars and intervention for differeing reasons. THe only people that agree with you (outside the US, besides the Republican party) are mainstream centrists
>>52483400
>france was going to become part of germany thats the only reason you helped
>france never really gave up the fight against germany, we had a strong underground rebellion, they could never truly conquer us
which is it?
>>52482792
>So half a million people
>half a million americans died fighting the German in France
Citation needed.
>>52483299
They have indeed, but they aren't as capable as US or French ones.
Also, they don't have the fleet to sustain long-range operation with those.
>>52483344
France never left NATO, we left the integrated command. The alliance has always been there.
>>52483349
You do realize this makes no sense at all since we designed our nuclear weapons to be able to defend ourselves ?
You do realize a country can be your ally without having to let your soldiers do whatever they want on its territory ?
What do you prefer ? France asking you to leave or France treating you like shit and not allowing you to do anything, like the arab countries does ?
Friends but equal, not friends and puppet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZrWbwOS2XY
>>52483879
>France never left NATO, we left the integrated command. The alliance has always been there.
the fact that not even a year later you began working with soviets shows that you were never really committed to the nato mission to stop the soviet spread of influence.
usa,isreal, and uk helped you develop your nuclear technology and then you just give it to the soviets. that act helped the soviets tremendously and dragged the cold war on even longer.
>>52483349
>It was literally "pay to protect us but do it somewhere else."
Good for them, their country. If that's the decision that's made, you go with it. History turned out the right way this time.
>>52484046
> usa,isreal, and uk helped you develop your nuclear technology
France had embargo on Uranium from the USA.
>>52484046
>usa,isreal, and uk helped you develop your nuclear technology and then you just give it to the soviets
The soviets already had the Tsar Bomb in 61. Why do you keep making shit up? Is it stupidity or malice?
France wins another thread :DDD
>>52484484
>>52484371
>In 1902, the Japanese Empire formed an alliance with the British Empire, which built up an Anglo-Japanese alliance. In response, the Russian Empire became allied with France in order to renege on agreements to reduce troop strength in Manchuria. On March 16, 1902, a mutual pact was signed between France and Russia. Japan later fought Russia in the Russo-Japanese war. France remained neutral in this conflict.
france is literally useless as an ally while being part of nato but is also useless as an ally when with russia
>One of the major news has been the sale of Mistral class amphibious assault ships to Russia. The deal which was signed at 2010,[13] is the first major arms deal between Russia and the Western world since World War II.[14] The deal has been criticized for neglecting the security interests of Poland, the Baltic states, Ukraine, and Georgia.[12]
the reason poland is angry with france is because france is lieterally giving russia weapons
>President Hollande summed up the attitude towards what some said Putin's repressive array of new laws during his first official visit to Moscow in February 2013: "I do not have to judge, I do not have to evaluate".
truly a nation of keks that will join what ever side they think we'll benefit them and ignore their moral compass.
>>52484656
It's the holydays and we spend them arguing here, of all places. There are no winners in this thread.
