Let's calmly have a discussion.
Show a source to argument.
Japan is f of the best ones
China is one of the worst ones
>>52405478
"Korea vs Japan" is Korean view.
"Japan vs China" is Japanese view.
What is Chinese view?
>>52405478
Chinese are civil and respectful, japanese are primitive and uncivilised.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
>>52405478
/int/ has had enough of 'Japanese' threads today
go to 2ch, please. don't annoy foreigners anymore
>>52405478
Why can't you just be friends?
>>52405570
China vs. the USA
>>52405700
More like China vs Australia
揚 子 江
子 子
江 江
>>52405570
China vs everyone else
>>52405671
Japanese and Chinese are friends though.
(ﾉ・∀・)ﾉ=●give you my fuckin!!
>>52405700
What is Murrica's view ?
>>52405570
"Chinese peoples vs Chinese government" is Chinese view.
>>52405770
USA vs. Russia/China
>>52405750
rude
>>52405770
USA vs Middle East
How long until China implodes?
>>52405787
this
Working age population peaked out in China, but their economy is still too rely on real estate industry.
I think China will have difficult time in 2020s.
>>52405478
China weebs are possibly the best weebs in the world. They are honest, pure, polite, kind, and actually try hard to learn about Japanese stuff. Unlike stupid butthurt weebs on the american internet or trashy netouyo virgin losers on /int/ and 2ch and hannnou blog stinkholes and shit, they hardly use a single racial slur. I honestly respect them.
>>52405876
The Middle East is the new setting for our proxy wars.
unfortunately, Chinese weeks are a small minority.
Do chinese and japanese people usually get along? I see so much stuff about korea and japan but not much about chinese and japanese relations
>>52406347
*weebs
Fucking autocorrect
Also, that was meant for
>>52406224
>>52406375
No.
Pic related, it's a sign on a shop in China.
>>52405570
China vs Taiwan
These fucktards needs to understand that both their government are filled with shit. Instead of fighting each other, the people needs to fight the giant corporates in Taiwan and the "civil servants" in China.
BTW I'm Taiwanese, I just live in Germany atm
>>52406375
no. they punch to death toyota owners in china. and burn up the Japanese businesses.
>>52405876
And ME's view is ME's vs Israel, amirite ?
>>52406375
Chinese can not access to 4chan.
>>52406466
I love Taiwan tbqh, nice people and chill weather (mostly)
>>52405876
wrong. ME isn't even close to being a threat. In fact, nobody is. the USA's position is unchallenged atm.
>>52405770
What is France's view ?
>>52406375
sino-japanese relationship is worse than that of Korea.
I'm sure commies of PRC are instigating Japanese and Koreans against each other successfully
>>52406855
What is Singapore's view?
>>52406986
about what
>>52406855
Me too, I met some taiwanese guys that were really cool. I also met some mainland chinese that were cool too, though.
Honestly I changed my opinion on China a little because of those guys, even if I can't agree with what their government does I won't judge every chinese person.
>>52407036
There's literally billions of them, there's bound to be some good some bad in there.
Chinese people hate their government more than anything desu
Fwiw there's a shit load of mainlanders in my campus, but they mostly stick to themselves even though we're all chinks here
>>52407018
which country is your rival or enemy?
>>52407219
Well, yeah, but compared to the vietnamese and nepalese I met who were all very loud, had very little concern for privacy and cooked stuff that smelled horrible, the chinese guys were really ok.
I met all those people in a dorm in Tokyo, btw
>>52406433
Well here's one from Japan
>>52407517
That ship is lewd shop.
all under 18 years are no allowed.
also at least we banned "all" foreigners from degenerate Japanese shop.
meanwhile China is only target for Japanese.
>>52407517
Judging from the logo below that looks like it's a brothel, pink salon or something.
>>52407310
Don't really have one, closest would be Malaysia I suppose, but I do like them a lot
>>52407326
Interesting, how did the Japanese took to them? I'm guessing they interacted with outsiders from your experience with them?
Chinese tourists are increasing in Japan.
>>52407642
The dorm only had foreigners and they went to a different school, so I don't know.
>>52407578
That shop*
>>52407610
Yes.
Thai hookers are more hotter and cheap.
why do foreigners want to fuck Japanese hookers...do aurou david take that pic?
What do Japanese people think of mainlanders tourist? What do Japanese people think of other Chinese tourists?
>>52407713
Weebs who only watch pure Japanese porn
>>52406224
t. Davido-kun
>>52407670
Chinese tourist are loud and rude, even Americans are better.
Seriously,I think neither our country nor PRC can't win.Though maybe PRC has the most powerful military but USA, they have many disputes with too many countries.China aren't too foolish to battle with Japan for east china sea.That is because south china sea is easier to get and more useful than east china sea.So,as long as CCP is sane,they will put off battling with us .
>>52407826
I can divide them into two groups.
1.rich group→they are generally ok.though they don't know japanese customs,when we inform them ,they follow them.
2.normal group →shit.
>>52408154
Cool thanks
Do you think if I speak in English and broken Japanese I can pass as a Japanese-American?
Chink here btw
>>52405700
This I can attest, being a sinologist PhD.
China's military professionals talk about the "duel of the century" against the USA, and completely disregard Japan as being merely a road-bump or a "dependent middle power" that is basically an extension of the USA:
Read Col. Liu Mingfu's bestselling book "China’s Dream: Major Power Thinking and Strategic Posture in a Post-American Era", which completely ignores Japan, but sees the USA as being the geostrategic enemy #1 for China to overcome.
http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=1&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=36217#.VnavXPnhCUk
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/06/china-dream-liu-mingfu-power/394748/
>>52408314
>being a sinologist PhD.
faggot cuck
>>52408314
As long as PRC do nothing against our country,I don't care.
>>52408209
If you don't get mixed up deeply with japanese,you can,I think.
>>52408444
Actually, it is breddy gud atm. Employment is stable and it is an interesting field for research. 9/10 would do again.
>>52406132
China's economy used to depend on investments, infrastructure and also real estates, but that has been over since 2012. What I do see now is a shift to more consumption led growth to make up for the weakness in manufacturing. This does indeed work, as the GDP measure can attest, where a large portion is already based on services (the largest portion, 46% percent to be exact). Working age population might not be such a big deal, since China's strongly moving to robotics in the manufacturing sector.
The current economic reform will be painful on the short-term, though, as I would expect the restructuring would cause unemployment in the short term, but this isnt something that will destabilize the country (one could remember Zhu Rongji's economic reforms in the 90s, that caused the total implosion of many big Mao-era SOEs), as new industries and the growing consumption led growth would be able to absorb many of them in the service-sectror.
Source:
http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21667927-chinas-consumption-boom-not-enough-succour-world-economy-doughty-not
And interestingly, while China's manufacturing weakens in the low-tech sector, their high-tech sector is growing, even overtaking Japan:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-08/china-surpasses-japan-as-asia-s-top-high-tech-exporter-adb-says
>>52408486
The PRC actually aims to finlandize Japan, if anything. At most, they would strike the Nansei island radar network of the 1st island chain to get their ballistic missiles through the WestPac into Guam and Hawaii and USN carrier groups, but I havent read anything about war-plans against Japan proper.
China sees Japan as a dependent nation of the US that can be coopted and even allied with, when the US hegemony in Asia falls. As Japan always will depend on sea-borne imports of natural resorces much more than China (who has Russia as their secured backyard), Japan can be negotiated with.
The USA is the greatest geopolitical foe in Chinese point of view, as the US, in their eyes, disrespects China's security interests by meddling in their neighborhood, despite having an entire continent of their own.
As said, a neutralized and finlandized Japan is something that is desirable in the PRC's eyes.
no chance tbqh
>>52408726
Hum.Of course,China will surpass our country one day on everything.However,I think China will be no more PRC at that time.You know,technical innovation can occur only when they are allowed the freedom.PRC will be able to produce as high-quality as our country, but it won't be able to do more,I think.
>>52408846
Would you have any ideas on why China is so heavily investing in Africa? 60 billions dollars seems a ridiculous amount of money given the recent economic woes. What are they hoping to get out of their end of the deal?
Some increased presence in overseas countries? Xi doesn't seem like the type of give away money for charity.
>>52405478
Korean, Don't you ever get tired?
>>52409508
まあ、このスレは落ち着いているし、目くじら立てる必要もないのでは?
under protection of USA , but why you do this
>>52410593
Because USA don't protect us.
>>52410593
Sorry...............
>>52410593
unfortunately youll never be able to understand that.
>>52405770
USA savior of the world against muslim scum
>>52410937
What do you mean in third one?
Sorry,I >>52411023 made a mistake.
Third →fourth
>>52410593
An air pollution country says what
>>52411065
Maybe Nepal earthqhake
>>52411055
>not secretly
kek
>>52411055
If we support tibet and east turkistan,we have no merit,I guess.It only produce more refugees,and some refugees will come to our islands.
>>52411151
貼った人だけど
だいぶ前の拾いものだから
>>52411220
ああ、そうなのね。
>>52411055
>omotenashi
>fictional taiwan fuckers in netouyos wet dream
kek
the asshole that made this must have been a pure netouyo. you are a typical shitty netouyo too.
>>52406918
France vs Quokkas
>>52410664
they do protect you,and you can't fight south/north korea on your own
>>52408964
>You know,technical innovation can occur only when they are allowed the freedom.
This is factually wrong tho. Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan and the Chinese empire were very innovative for their times. And dont forget how China's first nobel prize in medizine that they received this year was for an anti-malaria-drug that was made on the order of Mao Zedong during cultural revolution to aid the North Vietnamese and Vietcong back then during the war.
Innovation isnt dependent on ideology or political system. This is a fallacy spread by the West during Cold War to declare their geopolitical foes as subhumans. This is propaganda nothing more.
Innovation is need-based. If there's a problem that needs adressing, and there arent existing solutions that can be replicated and copied, human societies tend to natuarlly innovate. Chinese nowadays innovate everyday - how to get around the internet censorship, for example. This is an evidence of innovation driven by needs. The only thing a political system has in terms of innovation is its institutional flexibility to detect innovation and to invest in it, instead of stiffling it with regulations. But this isnt a problem China has right now, but it is rather that they need to first catch up to the cutting edge via copying and replcation of foreign solutions, until they reach a state where they are forced to innovate to solve problems that noone else has solutions for.
In terms of space exploration and search for extraterrestial life, China's actually already on the cutting edge. The largest space-telescope in the world with 500m diameter will be completed in 2016, putting them at the boundary of this resarch field. And this is something that is entirely not dependent on political system at all.
>>52411578
>this is what Chinks believe
>>52411220
go away, you stupid lazy netouyo faggot. learn fucking english.
>>52410593
Radiation From Japan to US West Coast Map Hoax
http://truthphalanx.com/radiation-from-japan-to-us-west-coast-map-hoax/
>>52411819
I look this map sometimes.
This is a forecast of tsunami, not radiation.
>>52409085
Africa is pretty much terra nullis for China in terms of geopolitical needs. After decades of neglect by the West after the cold war, Africa is pretty much 'free' in terms of any competing interests that the Chinese cannot off-set by investments.
China's involvement is driven by two factors:
1. Resources and Commodities.
2. Investment and shuffling domestic industrial overcapacities.
Both can be seen right now, as China is importing raw materials and even food from Africa through Chinese owned farms, while investing heavily in infrastructure, so that Chinese low-end manufacturers can move out of China and set shop in Africa.
While a lot sounds like neo-colonialist schemes, it is indeed a different picture on the ground, as China's actually offering African countries a lot of investments and development in a way that actually isnt politically dependent. If anything, China's developmental model is now copied by many African nations to develop themselves.
http://www.dw.com/en/opinion-china-setting-an-example-for-others-in-africa/a-18895732
ぱよぱよち~んが頑張ってるの?w
China is annoyed by dirtiness
Chinese sea
>>52412158
They are doing the same thing to Pakistan and Myanmar too. Currently i've just employed a maid from northern myanmar. she said that the chinese are setting up enterprise there and building up infrastructure while exchanging for their rich source of lumber
>>52405478
I wish Chinese people don't poo in the street.
>>52405478
>Japanese Women
>Chinese Men
make the ultimate breed to wipe out the koreans :^)
Chinese river
why would there be filled with disgusting low iq netouyo morons on /int/? on top of that they can write literally nothing in english and do nothing but post 2ch tier unfunny dated insular propaganda. how could they be so stupid? why you all are still so chock full of shit? can anyone explain these to me?
>>52412605
too bad Japanese women don't like Chinese men.
>>52412695
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrv78nG9R04
Chinese cooking oil
>>52407963
Asians are just loud when speaking normally.
t. Have 2 asian families as neighbors their conversations sound like domestic violence and can be heard through the door.
Is life in Japan fun? Japanese posters plus the memes have led me to believe life is depressing in Japan.
>>52405570
I live near many first gen koreans. They hate chinese openly but generally have no opinion on japs
>>52412769
Japanese men show more interest in Chinese women, but its still really low compared to other countries like the USA right?
I remember some website showing polls about it - USA was number 1 bar Japanese women.
>>52413218
Japanese women don't like Chinese men because Chinese men hates Japan/Japanese so much.
Who would marry/dating with haters?
China having many Japanese are no allowed shop in there.
>Americans
We has no realtionship with other foreigners.
only americans/korean/chinese are our foreigners.
At least average Americans don't beat Japanese women for being Japanese.
>>52408314
>>52408726
What did you do before your current position. (study wise)
I have a masters in IR and did my UG in history and politics, i spent a lot of my study on especially at post-grad on China/East-Asia mainly.
I work in the private sector in a non-related job but would like to go back to it at some point.
Taiwan #1 China #99
A very unfamous old Chinese book among Chinese is kinda popular in Japan.
There is an old Chinese book called saikontan. I like it a lot. I asked some Chinese mainlanders about this book, but they don't know about it. It's sad.
It's a self help kind of book written in 17th century.
>>52413936
I did my Master in East-Asian Studies specialized in German/Chinese law, worked for a China-trade related company before as law advisor, and returned doing my PhD after a few years.
University employment is pretty bad at the moment and I was lucky to have found a research position with a think tank, which is what I'm doing now.
>>52413487
We don't dislike Chinese men because they hate us, we dislike them because of low hygiene.
>>52410593
Hoax map made by aussie shitposters
>>52414864
There are a lot of reasons or that. Old, political, different culture.
I'm sure if you went to a Chinese library then someone would know.
>>52405478
There's not much to discuss. China is worse for living but they are catching up fast. They are a rising great power with many problems with pollution, corruption, and brain drain.
But the reports of his demise are greatly exaggerated.
Japan is nicer for living. People are kind, yet cold. Work is hard and studying harder. It's stereotypically East Asian. At the same time they are a falling great power that has a revisionist prime minister who thinks he can change the course. Like Russia. Finally, Japan has taken care of its suicide problem compared to 2000-2005, but that might just be because people have accepted a harder life.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2014/03/japans-demography
Western media wants Japan to open the floodgates to immigration like Germany. Abe stands firm against it. Japan is accepting its decline as Japanese, not as some multicultural behemoth. I agree.
>>52415120
You sound like a future me. 19, political economy, Georgetown University, looking for a summer internship in a think tank.
Impressive to see someone who actually knows the topic on /int/. We have way too much (admittedly, including me) "hey I read some articles so I know EXACTLY how it'll play out and everyone else is wrong."
Is that our only use? Thinking? Is the future an economy where everyone thinks?
>>52415898
Yeah, sad that /int/ is basically /normies (get out)/ and /lowest common denominator/ in most case.
/his/ is a pretty nice place, even though somewhat slow.
>>52412158
how is the collapse in commodities and the plummet of the Baltic dry effecting this status?
I hope China becomes a democratic nation.
>>52412158
>While a lot sounds like neo-colonialist schemes, it is indeed a different picture on the ground, as China's actually offering African countries a lot of investments and development in a way that actually isnt politically dependent. If anything, China's developmental model is now copied by many African nations to develop themselves.
This is the exact same thing as we did in a lot of colonies such as for example the princeley states which were independent yet still recieved investment, and this investment was much better than chinas current policy of taking all of the resources in exchange for a few measly buildings and a few trained black guys. They are just controlling the countries through the economy rather than by force; it is not neo-colonialism it is just old fashioned colonialism.
>>52421049
>Chinks never work for public so IMPOSSIBLE
>>52416336
/his/ is alright, just a little too.... Argumentative.
I enjoy /jp/ threads on /int/ because they are chill.
>>52417581
Commodities falling helps China in net. Most of the fall was because China pulled the bottom support out on the market though.
Throughout 2012-early this year China was extremely tight monetarily to try fixing a debt bubble. It worked, but it also led to the relative slowdown in the world economy. That, and China's demand to shut down it's worst polluters has killed the commodity market.
World trade value and volume is officially down on the year. The first time since 2009.
China is fine, but their investments in Africa and other commodity nations will be slowed down. As you can see the money flow is shifting somewhat towards developed nations because the rich are afraid of the corruption crackdown and manufacturing slowdown.
China under Xi is an amazing place to watch change.
>>52405478
A little unfair for China. They can't even defend themselves online anymore without force feeding government ideology to raise their magical score, and make father Mao happy.
>>52405478
BEST KOREA STRONK!
>Nuke China and Japan
>When?
>>52422955
>China is fine
I wouldn't say so. The manufacturing slowdown highlights a major problem inside the Chinese economy.
Their economy relies mainly on manufacturing and construction sector and their very high growth relies on that.
But they have hit a point in which they try to sustain such a growth by building/producing based on non existent demand.
>>52423604
The fact that you would just blindly believe what James said in that video without looking at the evidence yourself is unsurprising really.
>>52423604
You get your opinions from CNN?
That shit is way overblown and tons of Chinese like systems like it with Alibaba. A very similar system was actually used in the US with the NSA. And something similar is used by our banks.
If you haven't been to Weibo, you'll notice everything short of open defiance is allowed.
>>52424117
I don't understand what you are trying to say.
EVERYONE knew China would slowdown. Everyone knew it would switch from manufacturing to services. The people who caused the commodity collapse are the Producers continuing to produce more and more for non-existent demand.
China in 2012 grew 7.8%. China in 2015 has grown 7%.
Yet 12 billion barrels of oil were produced in 2012, compared to 20 billion in 2015. It's very similar for other commodities. The producers caused the price crash.
China's economy is 35% manufacturing. Not all that different from Japan in 1980.
Manufacturing will go into recession and the money will flow to services in China.
The only problem is that services don't help the world grow nearly as much as infastructure and manufacturing. Hence the even greater price collapse in commodities since July.
China is fine. I can give you a link to the Chief Economist of East Asia in the IMF.
>>52421049
this
>Qin
A powerful red-haired Caucasoid from the Western frontier uses Western inventions such as the chariot to invade the East and conquers all the yellow-skinned submissive Mongoloids and rules over them. He institutes strict laws and standards throughout his empire to dominate and control his subjects and this leads to the Chinese cultural identity.
>Han
Chinese Mongoloid peasants rebel and oust their Caucasoid masters and make a peasant their supreme emperor. Thanks to all the technology and culture brought to them by their Western conquerors, the Chinese experience a golden age.
>3 Kingdoms
Constant warfare between a bunch of peasants who want to be emperor. Someone writes a bullshit novel about them 1000 years later making them into superheroes.
>Sui then Tang
A northern Turkic people called the Xianbei conquer all of China. Tang is another golden age where Western culture is prevalent. For instance, the beauty standard is imported from Caucasoid Turkic northerners and fat lewd chicks are seen as the ultimate sex symbol.
>Liao then Jin
Northern steppe warriors invade and conquer half of China and enslave the Chinese population.
>Song
The remaining southern half of China.
>Yuan
Founded by Genghis Khan (who had red hair according to historical documents) and his Mongolian descendants. They first conquer Jin, which is already foreign-occupied, and then they conquer Song and rape all the Chinese women. Chinese are relegated to the lowest social class in the multi-ethnic Yuan empire.
>Ming
Chinese peasants rebel and oust the Mongols. They once again make a peasant their supreme emperor.
>Qing
Northern steppe warriors called the Manchu invade and conquer all of China and subjugate the entire population. They force all Chinese men to shave half their head and massacre 30 million Chinese.
>Modern
Japan defeats Qing in a war and liberates the Chinese from 300 years of Manchu domination. Later, Japan weakens the KMT, and Communist peasants take over China.
>>52425459
I like that copy pasta
>>52425217
>the Producers
And who are they? Aren't they the ones funding the central party right now? Would they allow their profitable industries to stop functioning by having a sectoral shift?
> The money will flow to services in China.
But China is not a mass consumer society yet, only 120 million Chinese can be considered middle class. There is no way they can achieve the same level of growth with this.
>I can give you a link to the Chief Economist of East Asia in the IMF.
Please do so.
>>52426267
The producers of commodities (raw materials used in finished products) are Russia, brazil, south africa, malaysia, africa, middle-east, and parts of Canada and Australia.
China consumes commodities.
The poor consume more than the rich. Starting at a low base also helps growth. 1+1=100% growth.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-REB-34298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BYPuLnAscA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bdK_CzOGpc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWUvJbzDoRg
>>52411635
'Soviet union,imperial Japan,nazi germany,imperial china '
However, neither of them survived for only 100years.though last one may be exception,it is difficult to call it innovative.innovation in imperial china was formed in its too long history.So it couldn't beat westerners in 1850s.
