Friendly reminder the American idiots who had Saddam Hussein killed and plunged Iraq into chaos are trying to have Bashar al-Assad killed/removed.
Do they have a malicious end goal or is it just done out of ignorance?
Our government =/= anonymous NEET posters on a Japanese cartoon discussion site
Saddam Hussein and Diego Costa look the fucking same
>>52246279
After 9/11 there were incidents of Mexicans being attacked because they looked similar to Arabs.
>>52246143
>all muslims are terrorists
>all jews are greedy backstabbers
>all blacks are retarded and violent
>all white girls are vapid sluts
>all indians can't take poo to the loo
>all weebs are pedophiles
>all slavs are inbred alcoholic retards
>all mexicans/pakis are rapists and thugs
what about white males? uhhh its da government we dindu nuffin wrong
Friendly reminder that white males volunteered to go kill Saddam, kill yourself.
>>52246063
Hello I am Barack Obama just visiting England at the moment doing political stuff and I want to just confirm yes we have malicious end goals.
>>52246471
t. opinionated tenapenny Arab
No one said anything about race. Also
>strawmanning this hard
>>52246063
They don't want Assad removed anymore.
Saddam Hussein was a monsterous dictator who killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people.
Americans remove him and install a Republic.
Iraqis shit on the republic and install a new terrorist govt.
This is America's fault because.....?
Saddam was sentenced and executed by Iraqis.
The US was trying to keep him alive and extradite him to the US like Noreaga.
>>52246609
>if you disagree with me you're Arab
>proceed to complain about perceived logical fallacy
Why are American so dumb? You went to die in the middle of a desert for what?
>>52246655
>we did it for da good people of irak
Since when do you care about ragheads? There are evil leaders all over the world a revolution must come from the people not from foreign countries with private financial interests in line.
Saddam was killed because of your Saudi/Israeli overlords.
>>52246737
Doesn't null my point if you can't get past an insult.
No one said anything about white males you retarded instigator.
>>52246655
>Americans actually believe this
>>52246737
If you mattered they'd use you
>>52246737
He was killed for 9/11 you soggy piece of french toast
>>52246655
Could you suck that cut cock any harder?
Assad rapes babies with WMDs for fun he MUST be removed
>>52246655
>Saddam Hussein was a monsterous dictator
The guy wept on Tito's funeral. That's not what monsters do. Monsters bomb Serbian civilians with uranium depleted rounds that continue to cause birth defects a decade later, like Americans.
>>52246737
>Since when do you care about ragheads? There are evil leaders all over the world a revolution must come from the people not from foreign countries with private financial interests in line.
USA has always cared and remains to care about the spread of democracy etc. If we didn't care we would nuke them all and be done with it in 2 seconds. Instead we stay and spend billions of dolllars and thousands of lives setting them up a free election to elect their own leaders.....(remember all the pics of the people with ink on their fingers)
.....and they run and join terrorist govt instead. And this is our fault? Why?
>>52246737
>>52246762
>>52246833
>m-muh unjustified war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Liberation_Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Iraq_%281998%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution
>>52246856
>Tito
So a Communist dictator? I understand (from looking at wikipedia) he was a more well-regarded dictator but I don't know why this is supposed to be a good thing. I am sure Osama bin Laden cried at Toy Story 3 doesn't make him a good guy.
>Monsters bomb Serbian civilians with uranium depleted rounds that continue to cause birth defects a decade later, like Americans.
Oh please, Saddam Hussein killed plenty of children. You are complaining Americans supposedly unintentionally caused "birth defects". Maybe Europe should start keeping their own people in control and stop starting all these shitty wars they need Americans to finish for them. Believe it or not, Americans do not enjoy taking care of the rest of teh world and getting nothing but flak for it (regardless if we step in or not).
>>52246774
Go die against ragheads.
>>52246789
>9/11
As if, it was scapegoated on bin laden but the Saudis and Israelis wanted Saddam dead.
>>52246761
Take responsibility and stop hiding behind some dindu nuffin rhetoric or it'll keep happening.
I repeat: some Americans (mainly white males) went to die for absolutely no reason far away from home.
>>52246861
Nuking everything is not a realistic solution you stupid manchildren, in Iraq they joined terrorists because you left them to die:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_Iraq
>>52246931
But that's exactly what I'm saying, they did it to help their Saudi and Israeli friends.
>>52246994
No one cares about the racial aspect except you, you piping autist.
And such deaths included about 3,000 people, a large percentage which where black, given that 1/5th of the military is black.
It's hardly a tragedy for us that no one but butthurt Maghrebis in Europe would take notice of.
Only America would ever get shit for removing a bloodthirsty horrible oppressive dictator, just because the people were retarded and joined a terrorist group even after Americans literally set up elections for them.
Guess which country has never been under the thumb of a single dictator, monarch, emperor, etc? USA.
Guess who has? Countless people in Europe, Asia, Africa, etc.
>>52246993
You also didn't know agent orange provokes miscarriages on pregnant women when you used it on Vietnam, right?
It was necessary to go after the collaborators of the September 11th attacks. Even if Saddam didn't have any connection to Al-Qaeda, the possibility of a theoretical scenario where he might've worked with them was too high of a risk to take.
>>52246737
>criticizes americans for calling the jews greedy backstabbers
>then proceeds to lay blame on the jews
Ok ahmed
Ids da joooooooooooooos
Ids always dos wascally jooos
>>52246856
>On July 8, 1982 Saddam Hussein drove into the city of Dujail, Iraq. After six men attempted to ambush the dictator, thousands of Dujail residents were thrown in jail and tortured. At least 148 men and boys were executed on orders signed by Saddam Hussein
>Human rights abuses under Saddam:
4000 prisoners were executed at Abu Ghraib Prison in 1984.
3000 prisoners were executed at the Mahjar Prison between 1993 and 1998.
About 2500 prisoners were executed between 1997 and 1999 in a "prison cleansing" campaign.
122 male prisoners were executed at Abu Ghraib prison in February/ March 2000. A further 23 political prisoners were executed there in October 2001.
In October 2000, dozens of women accused of prostitution were beheaded without any judicial process. Some were accused for political reasons.
Women prisoners at Mahjar were routinely raped by their guards.
Methods of torture used in Iraqi jails include using electric drills to mutilate hands, pulling out fingernails, knife cuts, sexual attacks and 'official rape'.
Prisoners at the Qurtiyya Prison in Baghdad and elsewhere were kept in metal boxes the size of tea chests. If they did not confess they were left to die.
>Saddam issued a series of decrees establishing severe penalties for criminal offences. These include amputation, branding, cutting off ears, and other forms of mutilation. Those found guilty of slandering the President could have their tongue removed.
But he cried once, he must be a great guy.
>>52247074
>Dictators/monarchs are inherently bad
>>52246994
>Nuking everything is not a realistic solution you stupid manchildren, in Iraq they joined terrorists because you left them to die:
Bullshit.
1) We've nuked people before to settle wars. The only reason why we don't now is because the USA does not want to kill innocents (regardless of whatever anti-American blog you have been reading).
2) We didn't leave them to die. We sat around and held their hands for years and years and years so they could elect a government. We dumped billions of dollars on their special snowflake asses.
3) Even if we did leave them, why the fuck join a terrorist group? That doesnt' follow. USA kicked out UK and UK """"left us"""" and then we set up our own Republic and our own elections and our own constitution that still stands 200+ years later. We didn't all decide to become jihadis because UK """"left us"""". We were like "fuck yea get out of here and let us rule ourselves".
If you are an adult and you decide to join a terrorist group, that was your own decision and USA did not force you to do so.
>>52247188
Now do human rights abuses under USA
>>52246063
Saudi money is behind it all.
>>52247145
Saudi arabia has the same type of islamic fundamentalism found in al-qaeda and isis and had ties with al-qaeda and you're still buddy buddy with them.
Saddam was a nationalist, he wouldn't side with al-qaeda, at least not directly, and basically you're an idiot.
>>52247239
>Withdrew form Iraq
Am I missing anything?
>>52247067
It is a tragedy for you. You blew a trillion bucks and your years-long parade of impotence convinced the world they don't need to listen to you anymore.
You had everything and blew it on nothing.
I hope your participation trophy is worth it.
>>52247202
>is still under a monarch in 2015
>insists a monarch is not so bad.
>insists a dictator is not so bad.
Even """benevolent""" dictators are vastly improved by being a """"benevolent""" elected official.
>>52247084
I don't know. Here's what I do know.
1) Viet Cong were 1000x as bad.
2) They were trying to set up yet another Communist dictatorship helhole.
>>52247188
>And thus america had to step in to stop all that killing of innocent civilians, and killed another 200.000 more
>We did it for the civilians guys!
>>52247289
First they ignore
They laugh at you and hate you
Then they fight you
Then you win
>>52246063
Ignorance. Bush and Obama were both dumb enough to think the Arabs are capable of self-governance.
>>52246994
>to help the saudis
kek, it was the saudis and other gulf states who put pressure on the US in 1991 to not pursue saddam any further, mainly because they were getting buttravaged about more US troops on arabic soil AND they still valued iraq was a buffer zone between themselves and iran...in actuality, the US was in an ideal situation to topple saddam as far as 1991.
So why would the saudis suddenly change their mind? You know toppling saddam put the oil in shiite hands, right? Saudi isn't getting a penny from this.
>>52247309
The key figures IBC found are:
• 14,705 (13%) of all documented civilian deaths were reported as being
directly caused by the US-led coalition.
>>52247307
Just fucking admit you were protecting your own interests there, stop trying to believe your country has the right to interfere whenever they want with other sovereign countries. It's funny how most people here bash on rt, but are oblivious to the fact that every country have their propaganda machine, some are less obvious than others.
>>52247067
>if you disagree with me you're Arab
>whataboutism
>no one cares about the racial aspect
Smells like hypocrisy to me, sorry for stating facts.
>>52247174
>the government of Israel represent all the jews
>chimpout because of his poor reading comprehension
Ugh, forgot not to reply to third-worlders.
>>52247207
>what is geopolitics
>ooga booga lets nuke everyone including our allies, what could go wrong?
And terrorist group is subjective, some leftists here call the US a terrorist organization so don't give me that because you killed tons of civilians too. Saudi Arabia is literally a successful ISIS and it's your ally.
>>52247382
Saddam was a direct threat to SA and they knew that the country would implode without a dictator keeping the sectarian violence to low, guess what happened? US and Saudi Arabia are allies and they have no problem with US troops, you're confusing SA with Iran or something.
>>52247448
and for the price 1.5 trillion, what interests did we protect?
>>52247285
Saudi Arabia sells us oil though, and has made the US dollar the preferred currency of OPEC. Them endlessly financing and arming violent Sunni groups is worth it in the long run.
Also the whole Muslim world would riot if filthy infidel armies moved into the same lands where holy Mohammad won his bloodiest battles.
>>52247482
There are no French posters who act like you do, so it's more then clear you're not French.
And my point stands, no one said anything about white males. Fuck off.
>>52247438
https://www.iraqbodycount.org/
http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/unworthy-victims-western-wars-have-killed-four-million-muslims-1990-39149394
http://www.psr.org/assets/pdfs/body-count.pdf
>>52246063
Both.
The ruling elites and establishment know very well their goals and what they're doing and have 0 moral scruples about it.
The average murrican on the contrary is just a clueless spurdo that gets his anus inspected everytime he takes a flight.
>>52247285
Saudi Arabia has denounced ISIS.
Also Saudi Arabia has never killed as many people as Saddam Hussein has.
Also people bitch at us for not bombing Saudi Arabia but I guarantee if we removed the Saudi monarchy and installed a republic, then we'd get bitched at when all Muslims join terrorist groups.
>>52247482
>And terrorist group is subjective, some leftists here call the US a terrorist organization so don't give me that because you killed tons of civilians too. Saudi Arabia is literally a successful ISIS and it's your ally.
Saudi Arabia is far less murderous than ISIS.
>>52247448
USA gets bitched at when we don't step in.
>>52247565
>rich white, Arab and Jews wanted Saddam dead
>a majority of white males volunteered to kill him
No need to be upset, cannon fodder I'm sure you'll get to die in some shithole like the good çuck you are, oil is becoming irrelevant so maybe somewhere green next time? Also I doubt you know all the French posters, many of us are pretty angry at American foreign policy especially since the terrorist attack.
>>52247587
Do you realize that not all civilian casualties in the war were caused by US soldiers?
I would be surprised if half of the casualties were caused by Americans.
>>52247587
> Daponte had estimated otherwise: 13,000 civilians were killed directly by American and allied forces
Nice, your source gives an even lower number than mine.
Friendly reminder that Americans and the British are directly responsible for every political instability in the world since world war 2.
Germany should have won desu, anglos are faggots
>>52247482
>Saddam was a direct threat to SA
Any evidence of that? Sure, they weren't exactly friendly since the kuwait episode but a direct threat? That's a whole other level.
>Saudi Arabia are allies and they have no problem with US troops
fucking kek, they tolerated it at best during the first gulf war periood, and opposition against it has only grown more fierce since, particularly post 2001.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_withdrawal_from_Saudi_Arabia
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2984547.stm
>>52247777
Do you realize the iraq war was caused by america?
>>52247777
>The key figures IBC found are:
>• 14,705 (13%) of all documented civilian deaths were reported as being
>directly caused by the US-led coalition.
Much less than half
>This report details these ties, in addition to documenting the industry backing of think tanks that played a prominent role in the Syria debate. It reveals the extent to which the public discourse around Syria was corrupted by the pervasive influence of the defense industry, to the point where many of the so-called experts appearing on American television screens were actually representatives of companies that profit from heightened US military activity abroad.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/conflicts-of-interest-in-syria-debate-and-news-commentary-links-to-us-defense-contractors/5495100
>>52246063
Bush was a fucking idiot. Why didn't he find a way to support a coup from within the Baathist to get rid of Saddam but continue letting the political party rule and maintaining stability. We should have used Iraq as a bulwark against Iran and used the experienced Iraqi army for ground operations against Iranian-supported groups, Taliban and other militant groups in the region.
>>52247807
Do you realize that Saddam would have still killed people if there was no war?
Do you realize that the countries that assisted us didn't have to join the war and kill more civilians?
>>52247744
What's your obsessions with white males volunteering?
They're the largest demographic in the country so that'd reflect on the military too.
And what's with the idea that they're cannon fodder?
6,600 people have died fighting for the US in the War on Terror, which includes, Iraq and Afghanistan. That's nothing.
Are you just plainly trying to be edgy when possible?
AFAIC, we did enough charity for Iraq when we knocked out Saddam. That should have been more than enough for gratitude.
Instead we get shit on. Why? We spent billions of dollars to help them. UK did not spend a red cent to help us make our Republic. USA isn't just expected to be "world police" at this point, we are "world babysitter".
>>52246063
Saddam Hussein was good boy. He dindu nuffin
>be world
>support iraq during iran-iraq war
>shit up both countries
>the one you support turns out to be the shittier one
still funny desu
>>52247977
>>52247977
>>52247977
"Dictators are okay even though they murder hundred of thousands of innocent people. They make the trains run on time"--Euros, 2015.
>>52248072
>stupid, uneducated, violent, anti-west, ultra-religious minorities
>deserving rights
>>52247985
that picture is cringe
>>52247967
uninformed post
>>52248072
t. Murrica :-DDDDD
>>52247890
>Bush was a fucking idiot.
Answered your own question there bro.
>>52248072
Yes, because in the Middle East the only alternative is ax-crazy Islamists.
>>52246063
Oil.
>>52251174
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MTTIMIZ1&f=M
We got less oil after the War.
>>52247074
>Only America would ever get shit for removing a bloodthirsty horrible oppressive dictator, just because the people were retarded and joined a terrorist group even after Americans literally set up elections for them.
>>52246856
Take off your proxy, dude.
>>52247533
>Saudi Arabia sells us oil though, and has made the US dollar the preferred currency of OPEC. Them endlessly financing and arming violent Sunni groups is worth it in the long run.
>>52246063
This is the Russian diasporafag in Germany with one of his many proxies.
>>52252446
This is the Iranian diaspora troll in Canada.
