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Who was the biggest genocider in history?
Spain and UK for killing milions of natives in both americas? (and not only in americas)
Russians? Germans? Serbs?
http://strawpoll.me/6266079
Poland.
>>52131542
>Serbs
XDD
>>52131542
>UK for killing milions of natives in both americas?
So many jellycides to choose from and you pick the one with no proofs.
>>52131602
The British Empire has been accused of several genocides.[90] The doctrine of terra nullius was used by the British to justify their seizure of territory in Australia and Tasmania. The death of the 15,000 Aboriginal Tasmanians has been called an act of genocide.[91][92]
>>52131542
>Serbs
Really?
>>52131667
America and Australia might look like similar names but they are different words.
>>52131565
Siberia example
The Russian conquest of Siberia was accompanied by massacres due to indigenous resistance to colonization by the Russian Cossacks, who savagely crushed the natives. At the hands of people like Vasilii Poyarkov in 1645 and Yerofei Khabarov in 1650 some peoples like the Daur were slaughtered by the Russians to the extent that it is considered genocide. 8,000 out of a previously 20,000 strong population in Kamchatka remained after being subjected to half a century of Cossacks slaughter.
In the 1640s the Yakuts were subjected to slaughters during the Russian advance into their land near the Lena river, and on Kamchatka in the 1690s the Koryak, Kamchadals, and Chukchi were also subjected to slaughters by the Russians.[59] When the Russians did not obtain the demanded amount of yasak from the natives, the Governor of Yakutsk, Piotr Golovin, who was a Cossack, used meat hooks to hang the native men. In the Lena basin, 70% of the Yakut population died within 40 years, and rape and enslavement were used against native women and children in order to force the natives to pay the Yasak.[55]
Kamchatka today is European in demographics and culture with only 2.5% of it being native, around 10,000 from a previous number of 150,000, due to the mass slaughters by the Cossacks after its annexation in 1697 of the Itelmen and Koryaks throughout the first decades of Russian rule.[64] The genocide by the Russian Cossacks devastated the native peoples of Kamchatka and exterminated much of their population.[65][66] In addition to committing genocide they Cossacks also devastated the wildlife by slaughtering massive amounts of animals for fur.[67] 90% of the Kamchadals and half of the Vogules were killed from the eighteenth to nineteenth centuries and the rapid genocide of the indigenous population led to entire ethnic groups being entirely wiped out.
>>52131542
No Turks on the list
Abandon thread
>>52131906
Another example
Several scholars write that the killing, on the basis of nationality and politics, of more than 120,000 ethnic Poles in the Soviet Union from 1937–38 was genocide.[180] An NKVD official remarked that Poles living in the Soviet Union were to be "completely destroyed". Under Stalin the NKVD's Polish operation soon arrested some 144,000, of whom 111,000 were shot.[181]
In practice abandoning its 'official socialist' ideology of the "fraternity of peoples", the Soviets in the Great Terror of 1937–1938 would target "a national group as an enemy of the state." During their Polish operation the NKVD hit "Soviet Poles and other Soviet citizens associated with Poland, Polish culture, or Roman Catholicism. The Polish ethnic character of the operation quickly prevailed in practice... ." Stalin was pleased at "cleaning out this Polish filth." Among the several different nationalities targeted in the Great Terror, "ethnic Poles suffered more than any other group."[182] In 1940 the Soviets also killed thousands of Polish POWs, including about 22,000 captured Polish Army officers shot in the Katyn forest
>>52132027
There is a option "other"
http://strawpoll.me/6266079/r
>>52131542
Spain conquered through the power of love while the British conquered through genocide. Russians and Serbs didn't do nothing
>>52131542
>>52131667
>UK for killing milions of natives in both americas? (and not only in americas)
We hardly killed any natives in the Americas, mate. It was the independent United States that believed in manifest destiny and killed every native on the entire continent.
>The British Empire has been accused of several genocides.[90] The doctrine of terra nullius was used by the British to justify their seizure of territory in Australia and Tasmania. The death of the 15,000 Aboriginal Tasmanians has been called an act of genocide.[91][92]
I don't know if you know this, but Australia isn't actually in the Americas.
Spain in sheer numbers, Portugal, per capita
>>52132125
>power of love
>ameriswipes
>>52131542
I will defend Spain
They never killed the natives, they mixed with them
It's different, Anglos actually extermined them
>>52132166
portugal not so much killing, but for the slavery part. More than 20 millions slaves transported and we only were 1 million at the time.
>>52132190
I prefer the adjective "Chicano"
>>52132204
Personally i wouldn't call Spain introducing diseases genocide, germs are invisible to the naked eye.
Japan
During the Nanking massacre in the period of the Second Sino-Japanese War, the Japanese engaged in mass killings of Chinese. Bradley Campbell described the Nanking Massacre as a genocide, because the Chinese were unilaterally killed by the Japanese en masse during the aftermath, despite the successful and certain outcome of their battle
From a meme standpoint, probably Germany
Overall though, probably Britain
Mongolia
40 ish million dead in a few generations
Russia
Crimea genocide
The ethnic cleansing[256][257][258] and 'deportation of the Crimean Tatars from Crimea, Ukraine was ordered by Joseph Stalin as a form of collective punishment for alleged collaboration with the Nazi occupation regime in Taurida Subdistrict during 1942–1943. The state-organized removal is known as the 'Sürgünlik in Crimean Tatar. A total of more than 230,000 people were deported (the entire ethnic Crimean Tatar population), of which more than 100,000 died from starvation or disease.
Ukraine recognizes the ethnic cleansing of the entire Tatar population as an act of genocide.
The USA should be an option on there tbqh
They did kill a lot of people
>>52132747
There is option USA in
http://strawpoll.me/6266079
Serbia
Genocide u Srebrenici
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre
In July 1995 Serbian forces killed more than 8,000[448][449] Bosniaks (Bosnian Muslims), mainly men and boys, in and around the town of Srebrenica during the Bosnian War. The killing was perpetrated by units of the Army of Republika Srpska (VRS) under the command of General Ratko Mladić.
In 2001 the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY) delivered its first conviction for the crime of genocide, against General Krstić for his role in the 1994 Srebrenica massacre (on appeal he was found not guilty of genocide but guilty of aiding and abetting genocide).
>>52131542
>Spain
>Bad guy
Indonesian occupation of East Timor
According to Sian Powell a UN report confirmed that the Indonesian military used starvation as a weapon and employed Napalm and chemical weapons, which poisoned the food and water supply.[348] Ben Kiernan wrote:
the crimes committed ... in East Timor, with a toll of 150,000 in a population of 650,000, clearly meet a range of sociological definitions of genocide ...[with] both political and ethnic groups as possible victims of genocide. The victims in East Timor included not only that substantial 'part' of the Timorese 'national group' targeted for destruction because of their resistance to Indonesian annexation...but also most members of the twenty-thousand strong ethnic Chinese minority
Indonesia is what Japan tried to do during the 2nd world war, a greater nation unifying a large part of Asia. It sounds nice in a poetic sense but the truth is that Indonesia conquered unwilling nations with it's military and has held them since by means of terror. The western Indonesians, those kin to the dictators who led the "liberation" of Indonesia are Muslims looking down upon the black people of southern and eastern Indonesia to the point of their lives deemed expendable. Indonesia is a history of the Netherlands lifting the colonial oppression leaving part of the natives to establish something much alike it, only worse. The fourth most populated country on earth harbors evil rarely spoken or known by western societies.
>>52132867
Adding us for 8000 people, not adding Croats for what they did in WW2, and operation storm.
Not adding Ukrainians for what they did to Poles in WW2.
Not adding Turks for Armenia and countless other peoples they subjugated.
Not adding Rome for the genocide of Gaul, and countless others.
>>52131713
>muh le ebin western Brobaganda xDDDD :DDD
>>52132938
This. We're big guys, but not bad ones.
Nazi Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_crimes_against_the_Polish_nation
Nazi crimes against the Polish nation claimed the lives of 2.77 million ethnic Poles,[1] and 2.7 to 2.9 million Polish Jews, according to estimates of the Polish government-affiliated Institute of National Remembrance (IPN).[1] Historians outside Poland put the number of Jewish victims of the Holocaust in occupied Poland at 3.0 million
There were about eight to ten million Jews in the territories controlled directly or indirectly by Germany (the uncertainty arises from the lack of knowledge about how many Jews there were in the Soviet Union). The six million killed in the Holocaust thus represent 60 to 75 percent of these Jews. Of Poland's 3.3 million Jews, about 90 percent were killed.[230] The same proportion were killed in Latvia and Lithuania, but most of Estonia's Jews were evacuated in time. Of the 750,000 Jews in Germany and Austria in 1933, only about a quarter survived. Although many German Jews emigrated before 1939, the majority of these fled to Czechoslovakia, France or the Netherlands, from where they were later deported to their deaths.
In Czechoslovakia, Greece, the Netherlands, and Yugoslavia, over 70 percent were killed. 50 to 70 percent were killed in Romania, Belgium and Hungary. It is likely that a similar proportion were killed in Belarus and Ukraine, but these figures are less certain. Countries with notably lower proportions of deaths include Bulgaria, Denmark, France, Italy, and Norway
No Sweden optinion killurself fag
>>52133292
So you can choose option "other", can you write what swedes do? and numbers?
>>52133207
No, incomparably small to anything any of the others did.
When it comes to Germany, concentration camps etc. but they organised a shooting of 2794 civilians in Kragujevac during occupation, no one mentions that compared to the hundreds of thousands of dead per concentration camp.
>>52131542
>colonialism
>bad
It's 2015, stop spouting this meme.
Russia - Ukrainian Holodomor.
The Holodomor (Ukrainian: Гoлoдoмóp, "Extermination by hunger" or "Hunger-extermination";[2] derived from мopити гoлoдoм, "to kill by starvation")[3][4][5] was a man-made famine in the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic in 1932 and 1933 that killed an estimated 2.5–7.5 million Ukrainians, with millions more counted in demographic estimates. It was part of the wider disaster, the Soviet famine of 1932–33, which affected the major grain-producing areas of the country.
The majority of victims were ethnic Ukrainians (also Russians, Jews and Poles), before the famine (census of 1926), their population in Ukraine formed 80,0 % and until the next census of 1939 their proportion of population dropped to 76,5 %.[11]
Early estimates of the death toll by scholars and government officials varied greatly; anywhere from 1.8[12] to 12 million[13] ethnic Ukrainians were said to have perished as a result of the famine. Recent research has since narrowed the estimates to between 2.4[14] and 7.5[15] million.
Scholars disagree on the relative importance of natural factors and bad economic policies as causes of the famine but believe it was a long-term plan of Joseph Stalin, an attempt to eliminate the Ukrainian independence movement. Using Holodomor in reference to the famine emphasizes its man-made aspects, arguing that actions such as rejection of outside aid, confiscation of all household foodstuffs, and restriction of population movement confer intent, defining the famine as genocide; the loss of life has been compared to the Holocaust
>spain
>genocide
the black leyend must be continue
We didn't genocide natives, the Americans did after independence. Honest, we dindu nuffin.
>>52133554
>wipes put two civilizations
>what??no genocide here
>>52133783
>implying they had any way of knowing what diseases they'd spread
>>52133783
Wipes out*
UK - Great Irish Famine
During the Irish Potato Famine (1845–1852), approximately 1 million people died and a million more emigrated from Ireland,[119] causing the island's population to fall by between 20% and 25%.[120] The proximate cause of famine was a potato disease commonly known as potato blight.
During the Famine, Ireland produced enough food, flax, and wool to feed and clothe double its nine million people.[124] When Ireland had experienced a famine in 1782–83, ports were closed to keep Irish-grown food in Ireland to feed the Irish. Local food prices promptly dropped. Merchants lobbied against the export ban, but government in the 1780s overrode their protests. There was no such export ban in the 1840s.[125] Some historians[126][127] have argued that in this sense the famine was artificial, caused by the British government's choice not to stop exports.
Francis A. Boyle claimed that the government's actions violated sections (a), (b), and (c) of Article 2 of the CPPCG and constituted genocide in a formal legal opinion to the New Jersey Commission on Holocaust Education on 2 May 1996.Charles E. Rice issued another formal opinion, also based on Article 2, alleging that the British had committed genocide.[131]
>>52133821
They did make the survivours slaves so yeah
>>52131542
Tuvans
>>52131542
>disclaimer: white people are the only people that count
>disclaimer 2: Jews are not white people
>Disclaimer 3: slavs are white people
The Russians, they killed the most people of anyone
>>52133888
blatant propaganda.
how are we 4th for being 'the biggest genocider'
http://strawpoll.me/6266079/
>>52132272
mexican fucktard, pls leave
>>52133112
>Not adding Ukrainians for what they did to Poles in WW2.
>Not adding Turks for Armenia and countless other peoples they subjugated.
>Not adding Rome for the genocide of Gaul, and countless others.
serbia, ladies and gents
Always living in the past
always conflating
always taking the worst case scenario as fact
always being fucktards
they're a real life /pol/
>>52134153
to be fair to him i think that they are the least worthy of being on that list by a long shot
>>52134018
>Japan
But chinese aren't people
>>52134153
I am not denying what we did, i'm just disappointed that we're grouped with countries that committed much worse atrocities.
>>52134211
Thank you.
>>52131542
UK&US
they still keep doing so.
China - Qing Dynasty - genocide of mongols
Some scholars estimate that about 80% of the Dzungar (Western Mongol) population (600,000 or more) were destroyed by a combination of warfare and disease in the Dzungar genocide during the Qing conquest of Dzunghar Khanate in 1755–1757, in which Manchu Bannermen and Khalkha Mongols exterminated the Dzungar Oirat Mongols.[78] Mark Levene, a historian whose recent research interests focus on genocide,[79] has stated that the extermination of the Dzungars was "arguably the eighteenth century genocide par excellence."
Kim Lacy Rogers wrote: "In the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, while the Hmong lived in south-western China, their Manchu overlords had labelled them 'Miao' ('barbarian' or 'savage') and targeted them for genocide when they defied being humiliated, oppressed, and enslaved."
wheres turkey?
Or can niggers just walk away from it
>>52131542
We are literally the good guys of history
>>52134508
>>52133821
They did. They would even give blankets infected with smallpox
>>52133946
>Slaves dont count
>but russians killed the most
That logic is a bit off
>>52134693
>more black legend
>>52134362
desu because of "remove kebab meme".
United States
In the late 16th century, England, France, Spain and the Netherlands launched colonization efforts in the part of North America that is now the United States.[34] The United States has not been legally admonished by the international community for genocidal acts against its indigenous population, but many commentators and academics argue that events such as The Trail of Tears, the Sand Creek Massacre and the Mendocino War were genocidal in nature.[35] In addition, it is documented that then Secretary of War Lewis Cass ordered that no Mandan (along with the Arikara, the Cree, and the Blackfeet) be given smallpox vaccinations, which were provided to other tribes in other areas.[36] Scholarly analysis indicates that British commander Jeffery Amherst authorized the intentional use of disease as a biological weapon against indigenous populations during the Siege of Fort Pitt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand_Creek_massacre
China - Tibet
On 5 June 1959 Shri Purshottam Trikamdas, Senior Advocate, Supreme Court of India, presented a report on Tibet to the International Commission of Jurists (an NGO). The press conference address on the report states in paragraph 26:
“ From the facts stated above the following conclusions may be drawn: ... (e) To examine all such evidence obtained by this Committee and from other sources and to take appropriate action thereon and in particular to determine whether the crime of Genocide – for which already there is strong presumption – is established and, in that case, to initiate such action as envisaged by the Genocide Convention of 1948 and by the Charter of the United Nations for suppression of these acts and appropriate redress;
The Central Tibetan Administration and other Tibetan in exile media claimed that approximately 1.2 million Tibetans have died of starvation, violence, or other indirect causes since 1950.[407] White states "In all, over one million Tibetans, a fifth of the population, had died as a result of Chinese occupation up until the end of the Cultural Revolution.
it's probably us tbqh
>>52133112
Rome never genocided anyone, they just assimilated the cultures of conquered populations.
>>52134566
more like good goys
>>52134868
if that's the case than australia is a contender for worst genocider as well
>>52133891
We didn't.
It was illegal you twat. You're the slave monger, like dutchies and anglos and french.
Spain is LITERALLY the good guys. If alignments were real every country would be an axis of chaos or evil except us, we're a LG empire.
>>52134693
That was the british to the USA indians you retard
>>52131542
>Who was the biggest genocider in history?
There's no need to ask. Mongol Empire. Rome also found its empire over the bones of everyone else near it.
Argentina
In September 2006, Miguel Osvaldo Etchecolatz, who had been the police commissioner of the province of Buenos Aires during the Dirty War (1976–1983), was found guilty of six counts of murder, six counts of unlawful imprisonment and seven counts of torture in a federal court. The judge who presided over the case, Carlos Rozanski, described the offences as part of a systematic attack that was intended to destroy parts of society that the victims represented and as such was genocide. Rozanski noted that CPPCG does not include the elimination of political groups (because that group was removed at the behest of Stalin), but instead based his findings on 11 December 1946 United Nations General Assembly Resolution 96 barring acts of genocide "when racial, religious, political and other groups have been destroyed, entirely or in part" (which passed unanimously), because he considered the original UN definition to be more legitimate than the politically compromised CPPCG definition
>>52131542
>not putting chinks in that list
>>52131542
>http://strawpoll.me/6266079
>Mongols are not there.
>Rome not there.
>Alexander's Empire not there.
>Belgium not there.
Shit poll.
Don't you realise that all civilizations are built over the bones of the people they conquered?
Islam.
WE HAVE RESULTS GUYS !
I made that same straw poll on /pol/ board.
Like you see Russia and UK are the biggest genociders...
>>52138004
Nice, only on place 8.
>>52138004
Sound one lad.
>>52134153
murica ladies and gents
if it suits them, something from 20 years ago matters, its not in the past, but not from more than 20...
USSR and China.
Communist is always motherfucker.
>>52133783
Mayans killed themselves
Baby sacrificing Aztecs and Incas where wiped out by a coalition of the Spaniards and the natives who were full of their shit.
The only real genocide was the tainos in the caribbean.
Taiwhat? Exactly.
>>52138890
meh the only genocide you guys did was by being filthy pigs with your diseases
>>52132272
I hate chicanos more than I hate illegals
Japanese people exterminated the native population of the Japanese island before making them their own.
>>52131542
NEW RESULTS
>>52138739
>japan
>calling china a genocider
I know the chinese are dirty commies but still nanking was a bit harsh
We didn't do absolutely anything wrong.
>>52139711
We are literally the dindu nuffin nation of history.
>>52131542
I really hope our participation on this poll is a meme and you do not seriously think we compare to ex-colonial empires.
>>52139711
In fact, that was our problem. We should had genocided them all.
>>52139877
ooga boooga where da gold at
>>52139923
Serbia Stronk
>>52140000
Because your country is famous from srebrenica(media in whole world was saying about it), remove kebab meme and from Nicola Tesla, literally nothing else.
>>52140075
Srebenica happened because the dutchies are a bunch of faggots that couldn't do their job.
>>52140000
Spain-senpai, we will never match your kebab-removal greatness.
>>52140075
Can't argue with that logic.
WE DINDU NUFFIN
>>52140164
This.
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Turkey - Armenian, Assyrian and Greek genocide
On 24 May 1915, the Allied Powers (Britain, France, and Russia) jointly issued a statement that for the first time ever explicitly charged a government with committing a "crime against humanity" in reference to that regime's persecution of its Christian minorities, including Armenians, Assyrians and Greeks.[140] Many researchers consider these events to be part of the policy of planned ethnoreligious purification of the Turkish state advanced by the Young Turks
>Armenian genocide
The total number of people killed as a result has been estimated at between 800,000 and 1.5 million
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide
>Assyrian genocide
Deaths 150,000–300,000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_genocide
> Greek genocide
Deaths 450,000-900,000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_genocide
>>52140285
>>52140465
When the new Crusade arrives, I expect to have you by our side.
Portugal - Spain - Poland - Hungary - Serbia.
Those are the true kebab removers.
>>52141515
mongols was the best kebab removers
>>52141616
Didn't they burn Baghdad to the ground?
>>52141515
We'll be honored
>>52141616
And then most of them converted to Islam:
Il-Khanate, Golden Horde, Mughals, Chagatai or Timurids to name a few.
>>52141671
they are almost completely erased Islam from the face of the earth
>>52141962
True, but they were betrayed by the Crusaders
Perfidious Albion.
They would kill you in your sleep right now if they could..
>>52142077
>but they were betrayed by the Crusaders
[Citation needed]
They were never allied in the first place. They tried, but it didn't happen.
>>52139677
Do you believe the propaganda of Chinese communist?lt is a lie to justify military expansion.
Serbia and Great Britain have never committed genocide.
>>52134693
>Committing Germ Warfare before anyone knew that 'germs' even existed
This is what lefties ACTUALLY believe...
>>52133783
Those were kikes under spanish flags
>>52139877
>Fight for the cross ALONE
>Reinforcements are just dipshits
>Fight for freedom ALONE
>Be nice to native
>Propaganda about us being evil child-eaters out of the wazoo
>Everyone jumps on our ass, even other christians
>Krauts use our money for their dumb european wars
>Invaded by ally
>Other countries say they'll help, then proceed to attack us too
>Start civil wars, 7 in under 200 years since nobody can truly slay the demon that's spain
>Still not dead
>Deep crisis of values and economical
>All in the shitter
>Still manage to survive
The problem isn't that spain ends. It's that it won't and nobody can put it out of it's eternal misery.
