Is true that americans say happy holidays instead of merry christmas so they won't trigger fedoras and minorities
Yes. Christians seem to be open season for hatred these days. Apparently having morals and traditions is bad in degenerate america
>>52102079
yeah. saying Merry Christmas to some people is almost like saying you're an open racist in some cities.
>>52102079
yep
yeah christians here are oppressed every day even though they make up the vast majority of the population
What the heck, this sounds like some sort of joke. Is that really a thing ?
>>52104197
Businesses say "happy holidays" in their marketing because they want shekels from all demographics. 99.99% of regular people don't give a shit.
Chtistianity is a middle east religion and Jesus was a jew.
>>52104197
Oh my god it's a Swiss, I love you so much. Can you speak Romasch? Talk to me pls I love your country
>>52102462
>>52102998
Don't listen to these fuckwits.
>>52104248
>>52104290
These guys get it.
>>52104142
Also, this is what American Christians actually unironically believe.
Remember that everytime someone says "Happy Holidays" Satan rubs his hands Jewishly and the War on Christmas goes in his favor!
Keep the Christ in Christmas!
I say "happy holidays" specifically to trigger baby boomers
>>52104372
>inb4 "let me tell you about your country"
I lived in the US for 4 years and every singe Christmas holiday season you would only be told happy holidays. Almost no one said merry Christmas except for on Christmas day and even then some people would still be saying happy holidays. I lived in both California and Illinois and both were like this, maybe in some bumfuck town in nowhere ville people say merry Christmas but a lot of people and places don't.
I got strange looks for saying merry Christmas to my colleagues and one of them took me aside and told me I should say happy holidays to be considerate.
>>52104419
But Baby Boomers are the ones that invented this. You've only cu.cked yourself
>>52102079
United Kekz of America
>>52104335
Sorry, I grew up with both French and English so I can't help you with that. Besides most people speak Schwitzerdütsch here anyway, unless you're on the western side of Switzerland.
>>52104248
Still that seems rather funny to me. Are the minorities in your country really that angry or something ?
>>52104743
>Still that seems rather funny to me. Are the minorities in your country really that angry or something ?
leftists are, and leftists are the loudest and most obnoxious about it
most people don't care one way or the other, so leftists get what they want
>>52104743
>Are the minorities in your country really that angry or something ?
No. But they have enough money that their holidays matter to marketing departments.
>>52102079
Yes
It's embarrassing
>>52104743
Too bad, I'd really like to learn Romansch and move up there but they're not a lot of resources for learning Romansch
>Constantly bang on about free speech
>Can't say merry christmas
>fedoras and minorities
lets not beat around the bush here ... its to not offend MUSLIMS
no-one else gets offended by christmas. maybe a few self-righteous christfags ... but they quickly get called out for their nonsense
but these liberals are so afraid of offending muslims (their 'victim du jour) they'll do anything to defend them
>Happy holidays
>woah woah learn my holiday greeting shitlord! I identify with "merry Christmas"!
Is the same thing as
>she
>woah woah learn my pronouns shitlord! I identify as a xe!
No, we say happy holidays to trigger conservative babies in the war on Christmas. We also say merry Christmas to trigger fedoras. As for minorities, we don't talk to them.
>>52104967
Well, considering there aren't really that many people who speak it, even in Switzerlnd.. No wonder. But you piqued my curiosity. What got you so interested in Romansch in the first place ? Do you speak another language besides English ? Surely there must be other resources out there to learn Romansch, perhaps in German ?
>>52104879
>>52104894
But is it explicitly forbidden or that's just some sort of preemptive move to avoid triggering the minorities?
>>52105115
Muslims make up less than 1% of America. The happy holidays thing predates the SJW craze getting big, it really is just corporations trying to make money off of Jews celebrating Hanukkah and other minorities. It's not a big deal.
>>52105216
>But is it explicitly forbidden or that's just some sort of preemptive move to avoid triggering the minorities?
It's not really forbidden. Small businesses and even some big corporations (like Chick Fil A) still say Merry Christmas and don't get any shit for it. If you wish someone merry Christmas and they're a Jew or whatever, they'll rarely get very offended. You just say something like "oops, well happy Hanukkah then" and forget about it.
yea american companies do, people will just say merry christmas though
>>52105216
I don't know I've always just been so fascinated with Switzerland. In all the places of the world whenever there has been a big wars Switzerland has always been a place of peace during those times like in the Nazi war. It's society just really interests me and Romansch seems like a really cool and beautiful language that's dying out, so I thought it'd be fun to learn it for the lolz. I'm learning Japanese right now and plan to learn a native language in the future and maybe Spanish or Korean of i get around to it.
I'm a fedora American and merry Christmas doesn't bother me.
Most other fedoras bug the fuck out of me tbqh. They're just as bad as religious hardliners.
>>52104967
I'm Friulan AMA
>>52105347
Yeah that's what I figured. I just found it funny since in Switzerland and in France too iirc, almost everyone says merry christmas, even in the media industry. That's why I was a bit surprised.
>>52105485
Is it hard being a part of a small language?
>>52105441
Haha, it's interesting to have another point of view coming from someone who's not in your country. I don't know if there are really a lot of resources for Romansch but I hope you find what you're looking for. Yes I've also been studying Japanese ever since I stopped 'studying' English i.e a bit more than a year. Really cool language and culture.
>>52105497
we have a really weird PC thing going on here, i dont know how to explain it. it's not exactly YES like some countries in europe but still extremely PC.
then at the same time we are less progressive than pretty much every EU country like with 75% of our states or so saying no to refugees
>>52105694
Thanks m8, good luck to you too desu :3
>>52105666
No, I'm bilingual.
>>52105701
Well, I've never visited the USA so I wouldn't know, but it always seemed to me that your country's culture has taken lots of different inputs from lots of different countries/cultures. Considering this, it's not really difficult to understand that the majority wants to keep an identity while at the same time trying to be 'open', if I dare say so. But eh, what do I know ?
>>52105901
i think what you're saying is right, but unless you're memeing, it's really hard to generalize anything here because there's so many people with so many different opinions.
all i know is that most companies here will be as PC as possible so as to not offend anyone
>>52105797
Thanks and good luck to you too!
>>52105971
Yeah of course, generalizing is kind of useless considering how many different opinions there are. Well, as long as it's not oppressive I don't see any problem with it (well I'm not religious so maybe I should take that into account too).
>>52106063
im not religious either, merry christmas is what people should say imo because we're like 75% christian here. and like the 15% or so that are undeclared/not religious come from christian families like me. i mean i went to catholic school myself.
>>52106103
Yeah that's why I was surprised in the first place. I know a lot of people at uni who aren't Christian and don't even have a Christian family but still say Merry Christmas. In Switzerland, for most people, Christmas isn't only religious anymore, it's also a cultural thing.
>>52106213
Same here, in fact it's like that in most places in the world. Take Japan for example, they celebrate Christmas but only like 2% of their population is Christian.
>>52106547
Yes, exactly. Even more so considering they eat chicken on Christmas, very often KFC, iirc. I had an Algerian stepfather and he would also celebrate with us every time even though it wasn't his religion at all.
>>52106681
That's cool! I have a Muslim friend who says she wouldn't mind doing Christmas things with me this season like seeing the nutcracker. I love sharing holidays and cultures with different people it's just so endearing. I'm not Christian but most of my family is. How much of Swizerland do you think is Christian anyways? Do the dislike non-christains?
Yes, I got berated at work for saying merry christmas and had to talk to HR.
When I was a kid I always thought that people meant they were combining the New Year holiday with Christmas when they said happy holidays desu senpai
>>52102462
>Morals only come from religion
Morals, there's another thing religious people can't handle thinking for themselves and need to be told what to think
>>52107052
Me too
>>52106939
What state are you?
>>52106911
Yeah I know how you feel, it really is a fun and interesting experience to live! Well we were given statistics in my geography class when I was in HS and 70% of the people were Christians or had a 'Christian-related' religion while around 20% weren't religious. As for the view on other religions, I'd say it's really hard to define. For instance, the more industrialized states will most likely be open minded (Geneva, Been, Zurich and so on) while the more rural states will tend to be more conservative and less open to other religions. But that's also a wide generalization as I've seen the opposite mindset on both sides. Switzerland is very unique in that we don't have one president ruling but seven people from different parties, left and right, ruling together.
>>52107205
>high education
>banking and tourism
>socialism done right
>open minded
>seven people from different parties, left and right, ruling together.
Why is Switzerland so perfect and why doesn't it have a general? I would love to just ask you guys a ton a questions and I know I'm running this thread because of it but darn the U.S. could learn a lot from you guys.
>>52107479
Well we also have our own problems to deal with but yeah, Switzerland is actually pretty sweet to live in. Especially for the education.
>>52102079
More than once I've had people tell me not to say "Merry Christmas".
I live in the bay area.
>>52107650
And those people were Christians ?
>>52105971
It's identity politics which Europe doesn't really have. In the USA people (from apl over the political spectrum) seem to politicise and get offended over the most mundane things.
>>52107748
Usually it's tumblr atheists that say that
>>52107911
Well, nothing unexpected I guess.
>>52102079
only keks
most people won't be offended if you personally tell them merry christmas. it's only really considered an issue when its some public or official thing (such as in your pic)
>>52104335
keked
>>52102079
Yes.
I actually remember one woman telling me to "Have a happy!" just to sidestep the controversy.
They never found the body.
I can't stand it. I'm not a Christian, but I can't stand it. They're the ones who made the holiday fun, they're the ones inviting everyone to join in and be merry -- no strings attached -- and people have to shit on them for it. Fuck the jews. Fuck the atheists. Fuck this country.
>>52108034
It's so sad though because actual minorities don't give a shit. Sjws are ruining my country so bad, just in Seattle there is a non whites only yoga class, but I can't even say "Indian" without being "corrected" by white people. And I am/live with native folk. Like, you've taken everything from Indian people and now you want to take our identities? Pls fuck off
>>52104687
I think Canada's "baby boomers" are a younger and more liberal than the US's, aren't they?
I recall reading an article, that the baby boom in Canada refers to 50's-60's babies where in the US it includes mostly 40's-50's babbys
this could be 100% bullshit though just something I read once.
>>52108239
>Fuck the atheists
atheists here dont give a fuck, and in most european countries they have more atheists than us and still say merry christmas lol
>>52105134
agree
>>52108312
It's not atheists, it's tumblr athiests
Christmas is a pagan holiday btw.
>>52108431
pretty stupid to group everyone who doesn't believe in god in with them
i still celebrate christmas for fuck's sake
>>52108462
Me too and I'm a spiritualist
>>52108440
The truth is a beautiful thing
>>52108263
Gosh, no offense but I'm happy not being in America. At least we're not infested with SJWs.
Yes. The media likes to joke about conservatives and the "war on Christmas" but it's a real thing
I visited home and got my parents to make one of these for christmas. so we don't say merry christmas or happy holidays, we've gone right to calling it happy shit log day
having a >euphoric family feels good man
>>52108555
I'm one off the few Americans who wouldn't take offense to that, but then again I'm the person from before who wants to learn Romasch which also isn't very popular. Funny it seems we keep talking to eachother by coincidence (if you're the same person anyways). Yeah america's pretty much fucked right now, and I used to be considered pretty progressive but now people want made up genders (otherkin, fictionkin, furries) to be represented nationally and being interested in other cultures is considered "racist".
>>52108651
I don't understand pls explain and what is that thing
>>52108815
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ti%C3%B3_de_Nadal
>Beginning with the Feast of the Immaculate Conception (December 8), one gives the tió a little bit to "eat" every night and usually covers him with a blanket so that he will not be cold. The story goes that in the days preceding Christmas, children must take good care of the log, keeping it warm and feeding it, so that it will poop presents on Christmas Day, hence the name caga tio (literally, "poo log").
>On Christmas day or, in some households, on Christmas Eve, one puts the tió partly into the fireplace and orders it to defecate. The fire part of this tradition is no longer as widespread as it once was, since many modern homes do not have a fireplace. To make it defecate, one beats the tió with sticks, while singing various songs of Tió de Nadal.
>>52108782
Haha, funny indeed! What you mean like, New gender in official data and records ? So instead of having male and female they'd have, I don't know, otherkin ? That sounds a bit much. And do these ideas have any impact on politics ? I mean, will it happen ?
>>52108983
There are homes without a fireplace? That's crazy
>>52109068
>What you mean like, New gender in official data and records ?
Yes, ze, xe ye vye the whole shabaine
>So instead of having male and female they'd have, I don't know, otherkin ?
They'd still have male and female but yeah sadly
>That sounds a bit much. And do these ideas have any impact on politics ? I mean, will it happen ?
I hope it doesn't affect politics but it kind of has, I don't know this whole country will be like reverse nazism if it keeps progressing. It's weird, most people assume I have the sjw mind set because I'm female but I'm one of the few people in my area against it. I mean don't get me wrong, I don't think sexualities and real trans people should be opressed, but some things "politically correct" have gone to far.
>>52108983
That's based as fuck, hanky the Christmas poo based as fuck
>>52109387
>Yes, ze, xe ye vye the whole shabaine
I don't know if I should consider this as funny or rather sad actually.
>I hope it doesn't affect politics but it kind of has, I don't know this whole country will be like reverse nazism if it keeps progressing. It's weird, most people assume I have the sjw mind set because I'm female but I'm one of the few people in my area against it.
Wait, you mean the majority isn't against it ? This would've created such a huge shitstorm in Europe.
>I mean don't get me wrong, I don't think sexualities and real trans people should be opressed, but some things "politically correct" have gone to far.
Yeah well, I didn't think insecure tumblr SJWs holded that much power.
>>52109555
>Wait, you mean the majority isn't against it ? This would've created such a huge shitstorm in Europe.
This is the majority in the northwest. I love it here because it's my home and it's beautiful here but I really want to leave this country eventually but maybe I'm just being a baby and running from my problems. It causes a shitstorm for Indian folk to live with but no one cares about natives unless they're white natives (like me). We get an upper hand on things but then pure cacasuans want to tell us we're wrong about our own culture and how we have to talk/act/say "Native American". It's actually really oppressing.
>>52109827
Most of the time SJWs don't really understand the minorities anyways. They pretend to care but that's just because they lack an identity. Still, this sounds like shit. Hope it'll get better but yeah, tumblr's gonna be tumblr.
>>52109962
It's okay I'll hold together until I can get a grant up there in Swizerland :3
>>52109827
This is true. I used to deliver pizzas in a shady part of Minneapolis. Lots of single moms in that area. Anyway on the Fourth of July I delivered to an American indian family with a dad, a mom and three kids who were celebrating in their yard with sparklers and everything.
I remarked to some friends later (good Minnesota liberals) how happy they had all seemed All three got really uncomfortable. An indian celebrating the fourth of July was too "colonized" The family couldn't have their own reasons for being happy on the holiday, they were blinkered c'ucks fooled into cheering their own ruin. It couldn't be that he was a vet, or liked fireworks, or liked barbecue, or just a day off with his family, they immediately cast this guy and his family as the victims.
Of course you see the same thing a thousand ways but that one really stuck out.
>>52109962
Real quick, can you tell me how to say "this is bullshit" and "but why" in Italian or whatever your language is
>>52110102
My uncle is Makaw as fuck, practically pure, and Independence Day is his favorite holiday. White fucks need to btfo fucking REEEEEE
>>52110070
Hope you get there, it's great!
>>52110102
This is so ironic though. I wonder, is it specific to the Northern part of the USA or is it a global thing ?
>>52110236
'C'est des conneries' and 'Mais pourquoi?'.
>>52110252
>>52110318
Thanks you! Also it does change depending where you're at. Texas and Southerners are more /pol/tier and North are sjw extremists. It's a vast difference and the in between people like me are a very small minority.
>>52110645
Yeah I supposed it would considering the differences in history and people.
>>52110921
How old are you btw?
>>52111086
I'm 19, starting university in mathematics.
>>52111209
Well I'm impressed, I'm horrible with math, more of the artsy type.
What university are you at? If you could study here would you?
>>52111305
Well I like both but I thought pursuing a career in STEM would be more useful for me. I'm at the EPFL. By here you mean in America ? I don't know, I think it depends more on the college than on the country/state really. I plan to do grad school in Japan anyway haha.
>>52111407
American here looking to move to a different country. How hard would it be to transfer to a Swiss university? Also what are Swiss laws on marijuana?
>>52111407
yeah I meant 'Mercia
I was thinking of heading to Japan for grad school too, but I've been really torn between Switzerland and Japan. Maybe I'm looking to far ahead though, I've still got to get my AA and bachelors here.
Yes. This is fairly true. It's practically implanted into my brain. :\ It wasn't like this years ago though.
>>52104248
more like 50% jamal
>>52111551
Depends if you want to get an undergrad or a grad degree. For the former you'll most likely need to speak the language from the university you'll try to get into (French for mine, for instance). If you're trying to get a Master in STEM-related fields English is usually enough. The biggest barrier will most likely be the language. Keep in mind that only about 10-15% of Swiss people actually go to high school, so not everyone speaks English. Other than that, as long as you got decent enough grades in HS I think you can apply and most likely enter any Swiss university you want. The semester tuition fees are also really low on average comparing to most European countries.
Regarding Marijuana, I'm not really sure anymore since I stopped smoking some time ago, but if I recall correctly, if you only buy weed and you're discreet, you shouldn't have too much problem. It's not legal though.
No.
>>52111679
You mean the whole 'Happy holidays' stuff started recently?
>>52111653
Well as long as you stay focused and motivated you'll figure out what to do. You have any Swiss universities you want to get into ?
>>52111746
> Keep in mind that only about 10-15% of Swiss people actually go to high school
Woah that sounds like a really low number. Does that mean Swiss people are much less educated than Americans?
>>52111841
>You have any Swiss universities you want to get into ?
Not in particular, through I heard a family rumor that I could get a scholarship in France based on my last name. I'm looking and cultural things, Asian studies maybe, and definatally graphic design or animation.
>>52111858
No, the education system is actually really different. For instance, a lot of people start learning a job when they finish middle school. I don't know the German word but in French we call that an 'Apprentissage' which is basically working and learning about the job for a period of three to four years after what you can continue working with the company you started with.
The other option is to get into a specific school that teaches specialized knowledge. This is commonly done for industry, social or medical related stuff.
You can also go to high school which spans three to five years (depending on the state) which are relatively intense. In the middle of it, you have to work on a 'maturity work' which can be really diverse. A friend of mine wrote novellas, another analysed the future of nuclear energy. I worked in a research laboratory in Bern concerned with the use of stem cells for cardiac diseases. I then had to write a report of about 20 pages regarding what I did and explaining the topic of stem cells.
It's also much more intensive math/science wise. Calculus and probability is done in a very extensive manner for all students. I also had introduction to differential equations and linear algebra (which is usually considered college stuff in the US).
>>52111946
Is that so ? I never heard of such thing but if it's true be sure to look into it. Geneva and particularly Lausanne is great for these kinds of studies. I have a friend who majored in Japanese/Philosophy in Geneva.
>>52112131
Oh my god, your system sounds so much better than what we have here in North America. The most my high school did that got us " in the work-force" was a three day period where we job shadowed someone and basically just asked them questions and shit. I now go to a university and have no idea what I want to do because my family has no connections to fields that interest me. Thinking about double majoring in accounting or history.
>>52112357
Yeah I spoke to a lot of people and most of them told me this. I find this hard to believe that you don't use a system where you can directly enter work as soon as possible. I mean for people not wanting to study this is just perfect, and of course you're paid for it ー you're still working after all. Besides, it's good to keep a healthy economy.
Aren't there any other options than college ?
>>52112201
Yeah apparently my ancestors supplied a ton of food for the French military from the valdencian society or some shit. My dad gets mail from them still apparently. I'll look into those places, thanks.
>>52112454
That sounds really cool! Hope you can get into this.
>>52112454
>waldensian society
That's my bad
>>52112431
Are there other options than college? Well that depends on what you want to do for a job. Coding is something that I don't believe you really need to go to college for. Self-teaching yourself, watching some MIT videos, and whatnot can give you a general idea on what you need to do. My original major was Computer Science, but I took a COS course and despised it. So yeah, that's why I'm kinda lost on what I want to do right now.
>>52112538
Thanks m8
Hey, you have a through away email or something I could message you on or would that freak you out?
>Americans don't even wish their closest family and friends Merry Christmas for fear of offending them or anyone in earshot
>The self-scan checkout where I bought beer and condoms last night with a Muslim bloke right behind me wished me Merry Christmas when I took my bags
>>52112610
Did the Muslim seem angry?
>>52112567
Yeah I understand what you mean (I actually took multiple courses on OCW). What exactly didn't you like in CS ? Perhaps you're more into the maths behind it or something ? Or the hardware stuff ? When you're lost it's good to define what got you interested first and work from there.
>>52112591
No I don't have one right now but I can create one if you want, I don't mind.
>>52112672
I think it was the syntax and rules of coding that confused me. The math aspects of coding are what interested me the most.
>>52112672
I mean if you want to. I just though we had some common interests and chatted a bit so, but you don't have to or anything.
Americans don't just celebrate Christmas, they also have Hannukah, a celebration of Jews killing Whitey, as well as Kwanzaa, a celebration to the Black Power Movement.
>>52112631
No he was pretty based actually, seemed very happy when he was walking around the shop.
>>52112732
Sure I don't mind, just give me a moment.
>>52112710
May I ask what language you were working with ? You should try out logic and/or a discrete maths course and see how you like it. Perhaps that could shed some light on what you really want to do?
>>52112771
I was working with Java. And yeah, my math teacher recommended I take a discreet math course. I'm taking Stats next semester, but I'm definitely going to keep discreet math as an option for a future class.
>>52112787
Yeah I really recommed you do so. If you want to see the bigger picture, MIT has a really good course on it called Mathematics for Computer Science (http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-042j-mathematics-for-computer-science-fall-2010/). If you want to check it out, it's free.
>>52112732
[email protected] Here you go.
>>52112963
Holy shit don't give out your full name!
>>52113010
That's not my full name, don't worry. I always use a fake name for this haha.
>>52113049
Oh okay whew. I sent you a message, it's just my trash email so don't worry about the weirdness.
>>52113135
Yeah don't worry, I'm not that new to the internet haha. Yeah I got your message.
>>52112963
Hey, can I send you an e-mail too? You sound like a cool person.
>>52113202
Sure I don't mind. Just tell me who you are in the thread (the CS guy I presume ?) in the mail.
>>52113233
Okee
>>52102462
>thinking you have to be religious to be a good person
