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Do Scandinavians view themselves as Scandinavians, Europeans or as their national identity?
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Scandinavian standards, European history and Swedish accomplishments.
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>>52066636

Swedish accomplishments? Like what? The only Swedish accomplishment i can think of is Ericson and Volvo, and Ericson is long gone, Volvo is about to disappear.
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>>52066553
>bulgaritards
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>>52066815
IKEA, dynamite and various contributions to the sciences.
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>>52066853
That doesn't even rhyme. Your country is finishedland.
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Nordics view themselves as nordics.
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>>52066553
Well lets first fix the fact you posted nordic flags, not Scandinavian... but on topic, yes we feel closer to to each other (and usually we compare ourselves with each other). But we are Finns first, Europeans second and Nordics third.
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WE WUZ VIKINGS
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>>52066885
I forgot about IKEA, but IKEA is more of a Dutch company, the headquarters are in the Netherlands. I don't think anybody has ever heard of dynamite and various swedish contributions to science.
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>>52067029
>IKEA is more of a Dutch company

Nigger is you crazy
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>>52066997
So you don't feel like European, you feel and identify as Finnish?
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>>52067029
Well the most prestigious prize to be awarded in fields of science is a Swedish award, named after the inventor of dynamite...
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>>52067070
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/11/ikea-swedish-furniturecompanyidentitytaxavoidance.html
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>>52067029
>IKEA
>dutch
But it's not like a cheap ass department store for substandard furniture is anything to be proud of.
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>>52067083
Historically we haven't played any part in European history. And yes of course I identify as Finnish first, why wouldn't I. We are quite unique bunch of assholes up here.
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>>52066553
on topic: finnishness is important. there's no such thing as european or nordic identity
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>>52067117

Planning your tax by doing that doesn't suddenly turn it into a non swedish company.
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The list goes something like this, at least in my parts.

City you come from > province you come from > part of the country you come from (west, east) > country > Scandinavia/Nordics > Europe >>>>>>>>>>>> rest of the world world
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>Da jeg skrev Norsk på 4chan, ble sagt jeg proxy ofte.
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>>52067229
På tide å legge norsken din på hylla, kamerat.
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>>52066815
Why is it always the dumb gysies that are jelly as fuck? Fuck off cigany
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>>52067136
>of course I identify as Finnish first, why wouldn't I

because it's embarassing to be associated with the average finn. i always refer to myself as northern european
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>>52067122
True, but Ingvar Kamprad is one of the richest people on earth and he's a humble lovable old nazi.
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I view myself strictly as Finnish, I feel like I have nothing in common with the rest of Europe
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>>52066885
>muh dynamite
why is this the only thing you guys ever talk about, Sven?
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>>52067280
lol@faggot
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>>52067280
It's more embarrassing to be self-hating Finn
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>>52067191
I see the EU has a long way to go in creating a single European identity, if at all possible. Although Americans identify as their state first, country second.
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>>52067280
embarassing to be associated with self-hating cukcs 2bh
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>>52067365
I'm not a self-hating finn. I'm proud of who I am, I'm proud of my family, I'm proud of the people in my social circles. I'm not proud of the average juntti lantahousu that make up ~80% of the population and everything about our culture that distinguishes us from swedes
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>>52067255
Nei
Jeg synes at det er lærerikt å snakke med hverandere på 4chan Morten kun. ^^
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>>52067267
In Bulgaria, a gypsy is more an attitude and behavior, less of an ethnicity. You can be a white Bulgarian, and still act like a gypsy. You can be ethnically a gypsy but act like a civilized white Bulgarian. In your case, you're probably a white Dutch, but acting like a Gypsy, so in Bulgaria you`ll be referred to as a gypsy as that is your behavior.
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>>52067280
Kek, Just stop wasting oxygen
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>>52067191
for me >>52067280 it's

the part of city I come from (westend)
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city (espoo, helsinki)
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nordics
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europe
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province (uusimaa)
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country
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>>52067321
Good luck explaining any of this crap in one word

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Swedish_inventions
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>>52067409
As a Finn you're just as much juntti as the rest of us, there is no metropolitan in Finland
What exactly do you hate about our culture?
I understand hating government of Finland but not the fellow Finns
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>>52067490
tempting bait
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Northerner > Swedish > Nordic >>> European

t. swede/finn/sami blanda
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>>52067560
not bait, though I admit I count all of suur-tapiola into my part of city. haukilahti, tapiola, pohjois-tapiola, westend. i'm proud to have grown up there. I'm not proud to live in the same country as people from oulu, jyväskylä or joensuu or let alone places no one's ever heard of
>>52067549
>there is no metropolitan in Finland
true, but I do live in the closes thing we have to one in downtown helsinki. i'll probably move once I finish my college degree, both my sisters are already living abroad.
>I understand hating government of Finland but not the fellow Finns
I actually hate the government of finland much less than the people and culture of finland. the government tends to make the best with what we got even if they are a bit timid of change historically.
>What exactly do you hate about our culture?
there is no other culture were jealousy is as prevalent. people are afraid to even reveal that they have a well paying job or a nice house because others will hate them for it. i guess it has to do with our roots as other countries' bitch but success is literally frowned upon.

there is basically no high culture (opera, theatre) outside helsinki, putting an effort into anything is gay, having standards higher than what is cheapest is faggy. if you'd rather eat a quality german sausage than a finnish flour sausage you think you're better than everyone else. if you want a better life you think others are not good enough for you. the whole atmosphere in the country makes me sick to my stomach.
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>>52067444
Det var litt bedre. Kanskje jeg var litt hastig med å be deg legge opp.
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wow, nordic countries hate each other just like balkan countries do. We have more in common than i thought.
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National identity mostly. The nordic perspective doesn't really hold up since we barely have any contact with the rest of them except Sweden and maybe Norway.

European perspective is even bleaker. We couldn't care less to relate ourselves to Europe. Only countries outside Baltic states and Scandinavia are considered "Europe". If we're abroad to western Europe we literally say we're going to Europe.
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>>52067764
nope
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>>52067764
Everybody hates everyone. Don't believe anyone memeing otherwise
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>>52067764
The hate was put aside a long time ago. What remains today is mostly just friendly rivalry and banter.

However there are still some strong feelings left. Most notably for Norwegians, is the treatment we received from the Swedish during WWII. They turned their back on us and left us for dead to the Germans. Even went so far as to deliver refugees personally into the hands of the Germans.
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>>52067764
cute how u try to force this euromeme. no, nordics don't hate each other
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>>52067736
>people are afraid to even reveal that they have a well paying job or a nice house because others will hate them for it
Thus says the Lord: “Let not the wise man boast in his wisdom, let not the mighty man boast in his might, let not the rich man boast in his riches, but let him who boasts boast in this, that he understands and knows me, that I am the Lord who practices steadfast love, justice, and righteousness in the earth. For in these things I delight, declares the Lord.”

Bragging with material goods is what niggers in USA do since they lack spiritual balance, do you want that kind of culture here? You won't be hated for it. It's just that people will appreciate you more for having spending habits. There's nothing wrong with being humble.
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>>52067836
>Demand independence
>Hey how come you're not protecting us

Maybe if we had been allowed military access, y'know
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>>52067904
>bragging
but I wasn't talking about bragging. of course everyone hates showing off. I'm talking about finns actively taking steps to hide their wealth because they fear (rightly so) that just finding out about it will ruin friendships. success is literally a reason to hate somebody.
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>>52066553
I see myself as a Swede but I would have no problem with a unified nordic state.

Only people I know who considers themselves "european" tend to be far left trash
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>>52067029
Ignorant eastern europeans desu senpai.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Nobel_laureates_per_capita
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Firstly, we see ourselves as Norwegians.

Secondly, we see ourselves as nordics.

Thirdly, we see ourselves as Europeans.

I'm assuming most Norwegians will agree on this, but at least that's how I see it if nothing else.
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>>52067960
Well I have never seen such behavior in my town, maybe your social circles in Helsinki aren't so good after all. You're acting like success doesn't breed jealousy in any country, but it does. A Finn CAN praise another for something, no one hates a doctor for doing good job or their neighbor for helping them.
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>>52068096
All of your laureates are from the last century. Since you become a socialists you haven't won anything, you ignorant north european socialist.
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>>52066815
> Ericson is long gone
What is that supposed to mean? Ericsson is still the largest telecommunications equipment company in the world, as far as I know.

And I think Volvo has been doing very well since they stopped making cars.

And Sweden has made huge contributions to science and technology. There is a reason why the world's most prestigious scientific award awarded in Sweden.
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>>52068234
my social circles are good because I come from one of the few places in the country were people are used to wealth.

it's whenever I try to interact with people outside my circles that I notice this attitude and have to stay on my toes. i don't show off myself but even something as simple as owning a quality winter jacket can get you snarky comments. i'm not about to shop at citymarket just to fit in
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>>52068315
You sure told him off?
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>>52068369
>i don't show off myself but even something as simple as owning a quality winter jacket can get you snarky comments
That's just banter you autist, no one actually cares about your shitty coat because what matters what kind of personality you have
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>>52068315
We won one last year, top kek. At least you tried.
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>>52068447
it's not though, it's very easy to distinguish legitimate banter from jealousy trying to pass off as one
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>>52068378
Julian Assange said that Sweden is the Saudi Arabia of feminism. I watched a documentary about extreme feminism in Sweden, kindergarten boys are made to pee like girls, and are taught to use a neutral word for female and male - hen.
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>>52068496
uhhh, no you didn't. Your last laureate was in the 90s.
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>>52068369
>>52068522
I can confirm this, I have gotten those comments a lot myself, and I know exactly what you mean.
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>>52068496
oops, sorry i mistook you for denmark. Your flags all look the same.
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>>52068878
>>52068948
So you admit to being an ignorant eastern european? Good, that's the most important step towards enlightenment.
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>>52068824

Let me guess, this documentary was on youtube?

Anyway, either Assange was a victim of the pro-feminist justice system, or he's just a dipshit who commited a sex crime then escaped the country.

Both are possible, but one is more likely.
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>>52069022
i bet im smarter than you. and if you wanna compare what your country has done throughout history and what my country has done, you lose again there. Your still a northern european socialist though.
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>>52069077
there are several documentaries and media reports saying the same thing, i've also watched a couple of swedish vloggers talk about this too. don't deny it.
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>>52069256

Hey, I'm not saying it's completely meritless, but I always find it amusing when people constrcut this fantasy Sweden with 4chan-sourced info.

It's usually pretty hilarious.
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>>52069181
>Ericson is long gone
>Your last laureate was in the 90s.
>Since you become a socialists you haven't won anything
>I don't think anybody has ever heard of dynamite
...
>i bet im smarter than you
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>>52066815
Is this bait?
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>>52068315
We have been socialist since 1920s m8
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>>52067014
Yes we were. Problem with that? Swedish history wanking is usually about 17th century though.
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>>52069518
Holy shit, I hope so.
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Hey, guys, it's time to stop. Just let the Bulgarian be in his dark-blue misery.
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>>52069181

Bulgaria doesn't hold a candle to any scandi country when it comes to history.
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>>52069518
That's not true. You start making the shift towards socialism in the 30s. If you look at top 15 largest Swedish companies, they were all created before the 30s, not one has been made since you began imposing regulations.
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>>52067014
swedes wuz never vukingz
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>>52069741

Uhhh??
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>>52068344
For some reason people don't understand that a very disproportionally large amount of the worlds largest companies and richest people are Swedish. They assume because socialism we don't have huge corporations and banks.
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>>52069723
This speaks volume of your history classes. First computer, first digital watch, the pill, the cyrilil alphabet, countless discoveries in Science and Technology, should i continue or you feel embarrassed already? Not to even mention our Empire. We have contributed more to the world than you can ever imagine.
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>>52069741
Yes they were, there are even evidence of Swedish viking raids in Estonia 50 years before the Norwegian ones officially started the ae in 793 on Lindisfarne.
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>>52069807

>any of this
>invented by bulgaria

Too delusional
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>>52069659
this is a result of 50 years of communism which destroyed our economy. It takes time to get back on track.
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>>52068369
Everyone loves a rich man living below his means. It speaks of humble nature and good character.
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>>52069839
And Estonians raided Swedes back.
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>>52069853
huh? why dont you check your own facts bro. jelous much?
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>>52069807
Sweden was an Empire too, and has contributed a hella lot more to science than you. And those you mentioned were not invented by you, you dummie.
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>>52068824
This is called moving the goalposts m8.
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>>52069923
He did that earlier too.
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>>52069181
WE WUZ BULGARS N SHIT

Only thing Bulgaria has done is helped ruin eastern roman empire and then quite literally sucked Turkish cock
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>>52066553

Finn->Northerner->European

If I meet someone from the EU I tell them that I'm from Finland, if I meet someone from faraway and I doubt whether he knows where Finland is, I'll say northern Europe. I don't have any problems with being a Finn, I think it's one of the better alternatives around.
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>>52069839
They were not. All the documented viking places in Sweden lays on ground which used to be norwegian territory
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>>52066553
I want to clarify that I'm nothing more than a bougy upper middle class mutt who just so happens to live in Oslo, but for me it goes more like:

Westerner > European > Scandinavian > Norwegian > Citizen of wherever
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>>52069839
Don't worry, Finns are raiding Estonian coast on daily basis. We loot their booze stores and fuck their women. Keeping up the tradition you guys forgot.
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>>52069735
But that's wrong. HM, the biggest company in Sweden, is founded in 1947. And you are wrong again, first socialist gubmint came into power in1920s
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>>52070062
Let me raid myself into this woman, please.
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>>52069741
We have more documented Viking stuff than everyone else combined and yet this meme persists
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>>52069911

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bulgarian_inventors_and_discoverers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Swedish_inventors

You're a tiny speck in comparison
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>>52070012
>gamla Uppsala
>norskt

Sluta röka makrill Espen
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>"""""""european identity"""""""
Who the fuck would want to associate themselves with a bunch of moors, sheep fuckers and debtorrists?
>"""""""nordic identity"""""""
Who the fuck would want to associate themselves with a bunch of cuks and assholes?

Frankly, even national identity is pushing it a little bit. As if I have anything in common with the eastern horde or the western gaylords.
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>>52070113
Byzantium hasn't existed for over 500 years, do you really think anyone would remember?
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>>52070113
Lel, well don't get ahead of yourself, Sven. You are the least viking, but still a viking. Let's just stick to consensus this one time.
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>>52070012
>norwegian territory
What is this even
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>>52069922
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bulgarian_inventors_and_discoverers

the list is so much larger than this.
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>>52070012

Yes, I'm sure places in Uppland used to be Norwegian territory.

Swedish vikings generally went east while Norwegians went west, doesn't make Swedes less vikings.
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>>52070174
I mean runestones n shit
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>>52066553
I cant say i ever feel or idendity as a european, but as swedish/nordic/scandinavian, sure.
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>>52070192
Point me to the Norwegian runestones lad
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>>52070242
>I traded a cow for a sword
>Son of Jörgen let rise this stone

/blogpost
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>>52070192
WE
WAS
VIKINGS
and shit
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>>52070165
It's people like you who make me afraid of what our school system is becoming
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>save sweden from debt and civil strife
>lead your armies from the age of 16 practically inventing modern warfare
>save protestantism and make sweden a great power
>your ugly daughter turns catholic and abdicates and ends your line
Poor Gustavus
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Faroese>Western Scandi>Scandi>Northern Atlantic>Danish
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>>52070217
Good, now go find the Swedish equivalent article.

And you said computer btw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC
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>>52070202
GIV BAK OUR CLAY WE WILL CRUSH U LIK A SKULL OF PIG. norway greattst countrey
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>>52070044
You live in the wrong city maaan

Bergen> Bergen> European> Norwegian> Citizen of whatever> Scandinavian
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>>52070137
The sweden list is simply more updated. We created the cyrilic alphabet used by more than 140 million people arround the world, we gave the world a computer machine, we gave the world a pill, the discovered the sixth tone in the heart, we created the car gears, and so much more important things, what exactly have you gave to the world?
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>>52070308
Difference between Sweden and Denmark vs Norway is that we have other history than just the vikings.
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>>52070315
At least that put an actually competent lineage on the throne. The Vasa were crazy awesome or just plain crazy.
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>>52070217
>>52070137

Already referenced it. Shit list t b h
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>>52070315
He was the best ever but too brave. Could have become Emperor had he not died
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>>52070217
>lists diaspora and people born before bulgaria was a country
lol
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>>52070381
also the world first military airplane used to bomb turkey in ww1
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>>52070310
I actually have a master's degree in biotechnology. Be fucking afraid.
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>>52070381
>We created the cyrilic alphabet

You mean misread the Latin alphabet?
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>>52070355
All formerly Norwegian territories are land were even more so back then literal who places
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>>52070276
>runestones being about viking raids

Here is our runestones https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategori:Runesteiner_i_Norge

Being a viking was a way of life that involved seaman-ship, raiding, and exploring. It was of sorts an occupation, if you will. Writing runestones is being norse, not viking.
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>>52070436
He hated the Cathkeks too much, his death at Lutzen was very much avoidable
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>>52070437
wtf? bulgaria is the 3rd oldest country in europe, much older than your island. i see europeans are so much more dumber than i thought.
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>>52070461
Make any discoveries yet?
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>>52070381

>The sweden list is simply more updated

Sure it is. I'm sure it's all just a big conspiracy to keep the bulgar man down.

>what exactly have you gave to the world?

Look at the list, even with all your undocumented made up shit included, you still can't compare.
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>>52070486
>are land were even more so back then literal who places
Nigga what now?
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I don't identify as european

Fuck the rest of Europe

It is Swedish, Scandinavian or Nordic
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>>52070529
>The Ottoman Empire
>3rd oldest country in europe
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>>52070490
>swedes and geats explore all russia and go as far as samarkand in the East

Pretty viking. And a lot of runestones are about viking trips(Viking raid is an English term, in Swedish it's always vikingfärd).
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>>52070529
clement was part of the byzantine empire
if it were the bulgarian empire he would have invented a different alphabet, one where you wipe your poo on the paper.
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>>52066553
I see you have the Icelandic flag there.

We are not Scandinavians and we are not Europeans

We are Iceland and we are also half in America not Europe
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>>52070529
Bulgaria is like a century old. Being occupied territory for centuries is not being a country.
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>>52070575
>glorious revolution
>invasion
end this frisian funded meme already
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WE WUZ KUNGZ N MATHERFOKINZ SHET, now dem swinedes live on our former viking land. Damn yo
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>>52070641
You're inbreds
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>>52070486
>All formerly Norwegian territories are land were even more so back then literal who places
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>>52070529
Yes, that's actually true.
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>>52070541
Only about abusing unemployment benefits
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>>52070658
We should just make it 1707
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>>52070641
A new autism enters the thread.
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>>52070276
to be fair, norway has the most ulfberths. which indicates that they had the most rich vikings, aka. the most successful vikings. unless ofcourse there were other fancy weapons or armor that was preferred in sweden and denmark.
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>>52070678
We are pure and not filled to the brim with blámenn, skrælingjar and serkir
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Gothenburg area used to be Norwegian, it was called Elvsysla back then.
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>>52070548
Writing from phone:/ what I meant was that Bohuslän and the others are literal who irrelevant places.
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>>52070575
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>>52070783
That's true. But Sweden is still the oldest and best hahahhahahhahahahhahahhaa
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>>52070796
>not filled to the brim with blámenn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Jonatan
>They had three children; two survived childhood, and their living descendants now number nearly five hundred;[3] among the most famous is one-time prime minister Davíð Oddsson.
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>>52070796
I was in Reykjavik, and I know your secret.
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>>52070833
lel
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>>52070833
>help destroy Byzantine Empire
>proceeds to take Turk cock for centuries

Awesome history
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>>52070888
We are 300000 here

Its not like 99% of our population is a serki like in your country
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>>52070940
lol you're so desperate and pathetic. are all scandinavians ignorant like you?
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>>52071037
Is not that exactly what happened then?
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>>52068369

This sounds exactly like Britain really so I don't know what you're complaining about, Kimi.
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>>52071037
No. But you have sort of set the standard in this thread by everything you spewed out earlier, you'll have to admit.
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>>52071052
we are the third oldest country in europe, i know you probably can't read, so ask someone who can to open a history book and teach you something about the history of europe. the ottoman occupation was a relatively short period of time of our history, as well as the greek history. that doesn't take away all of our history and contributions which dwarfs yours.
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>>52071162
you started it, not me.
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>>52071176
>which dwarfs yours.
I agreed up till this point. I know you're proud of your country and all, but you really need to research the Swedish history. It's not for nothing that nearly everyone in this thread makes fun of you.
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>>52071176
>third oldest
>hasn't done shit
loving every laugh
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>>52071243
Me?! I jumped in long after you had started with those other guys. And you started it before they did, they were merely responding to you. You're doing it again tbqh.
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>>52071128
He wants to live among softy southeners but he was born in the north. Sounds like the fingol equivalent of that.
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>>52071307
expect invent the cyrilic alphabet, the first computer, the pill, the digital watch, the car gears, the first miliary airplane, discovered the sixth tone in the heart, countless more. what have you done other than invate primitive african countries that can't defend themselves?
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>>52070641
>we iz speshul snowflakes n shit
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>>52071243
You set the low standard by this (very) ignorant post >>52066815 tbqh. It's the 3rd post ITT. You also started the whole thread, so you are the one who should set the bar in here. If you argue like a child, you'll get x10 equal replies back.
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>>52067321

Because it was a huge thing when it was invented? It revolutionized the mining industry, and the increased efficiency in resource extraction was a large contributor to the industrial revolution even being possible.

>>52066815

That Sweden punches above its weight class in science isn't even up for debate, it just is. Huehue about YES all you want and how shitty this place is now (even though by all accounts it's still one of the greatest places to live), but this nations contributions in that regard are on record.
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>>52070994
Island er norsk leire.
Kom hjem, hvite mann.
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>>52071375

Bulgaria when are you going to learn nobody cares about your shitty little country
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>>52071375
>seriously trying to compare the accomplishments of your meme country to britain
stop m8, it's not a fight you're going to win
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>>52071375
>first computer
Top lel, you are deluded if you think this is first and foremost a Bulgarian invention. I don't know about the other stuff you mentioned, but if your contribution to those are the same as that with the computer, then you're in for a surprise: you didn't invent them.
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>>52071375
What about high quality olive oil?
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>>52066553

National identity - Scandinavian - Nordic - Northern European - European, in that order.
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>>52071541
are you swedish? everything i said is true, those are the only swedish things i can think of, and probably most people desu. the swedish accomplishments are nothing compared to ours, its just fact. why are you so sensitive?
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>>52071604
your not addressing my arguments, your just attacking me. i've studied alot about your country, i bet you can't name 5 things invented by british, and not scottish. everything your country is known for comes from scotland. the first sign that you can't argue is that you attack the person instead of his arguments. who's fighting? you wanna have a debate right? your not very good at it are you.
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>>52071737

Ok, you need some "important" shit? Fine. The pacemaker, the medical implementations of ultrasound, the modern form of GPS tracking and the technology that made flatscreen monitors possible. Swedish inventions.
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>>52071841
This is just embarrassing now.
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>>52071841
>>52071737
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>>52071737
>>52071863
Also, the fact that you're ignorant as fuck and haven't been bothered to read about shit doesn't mean no one else has.
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>>52071606
why do you keep repeating that im deluded when i just gave you the facts? are you retarded or something? you can see for yourrself who invented the computer and all the other thing. you can't read or something? jesus.
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>>52071841
>bulgaria
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>>52071902
same goes for you bro
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>>52071841
Scots are brits, on the island great britain. Even if they left the union they'd be british. And fuck off with your "BET U CANT NAME 5 SEE I TOLD YOU BULGARIANS ARE SO AMAZING YOU SUCK" shitposting please
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>>52071908
http://www.livescience.com/20718-computer-history.html
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>>52067927
It's old history, so no one pays it any mind anymore. However the complaint was why did you turn Norwegian refugees over to German authorities, instead of just letting them across the border. Not why didn't you rush to our aid with your armed forces.

But it's not like it is a secret the Swedish were huge Wehrboos, and only became friendly with the allies when it was apparent the Germans would lose.
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>>52072043
dont try to take the credit for what the scttish have done, the only thing engllish are good at is taking other people's credit and then invade primitive countries that cant fight back. And it's true, we simply have contributed more than you have, why are you so sensitive? its just facts. stop being so sensitive like a little baby.
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>>52072119
Perhaps that's why they have so much white man's guilt, like the Germans?
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>>52071841
>tfw i'm half scottish half english
backfired on you didn't it gypsy?
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>>52072060
1941: Atanasoff

did you read that part?
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>>52070012
Tullebukk
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>>52072119
What? No, Sweden harbored jews unlike Switzerland and rebuilt an army in secret while tapping nazi lines to break their codes.

We had it worse since we were being threatened into submission by both sides, at least once norway was occupied there was no worry.
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>>52072158
>not only has Bulgaria contributed more to science and history than Sweden, but now also more than UK.
Cannot make this shit up!!

Must be trolling tbqh.
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>>52071841
>Gipsygaria
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>>52067029
>IKEA is more of a Dutch company
Are you fucking dumb? I bet you can't name a single person in their board of directors that is Dutch. It's own by Swedes and run by Swedes. However, the taxes may go somwhere else but that is a common scheme for large multinational companies.
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>>52072209
half scottish is not scottish, soooooo yeah, not really. plus you were probably raised in england, which makes you english.
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>>52072266
i cite facts, you attack me instead of my arguments. the scandinavian way. over-sensitive feminine socialists.
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>>52066636
>>52066885
The accomplishments of some individuals does not make it an accomplishment of your country
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>>52072360
>I cite facts
EL OH EL
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>>52072209

Do you use the word 'bairn' for 'child'? Just learned yesterday that some Scots use it. It's interesting because the scandi word for child is 'barn'.
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>>52072293
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/11/ikea-swedish-furniturecompanyidentitytaxavoidance.html
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>>52072294
>tfw raised half of my life in edinburgh and the other half in london
what now gyppo?
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>>52072212
Yes, it's a bit too late to claim the "invention". You built a computer that was based on other people's work. Congratulations, but why does it say that Americans built the Atanasoff–Berry computer?
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>>52067280
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>>52072433
Thanks for proving my point you idiot.
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>>52072417
Why not? It was our society that produced the conditions necessary to help people like von Linné flourish. If he had been born in Bulgaria he'd just get raped by turks and left to die in a ditch.
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>>52072473
They stole, bulgaria invented ipad with gipsy magic
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>>52072234
And yet you still turned Norwegians over to German authorities early in the war.

Of course there was the threat of German invasion in Sweden too, which is why the Swedish government rigged the iron mines with explosives. Kept your own resources hostage so the Germans wouldn't invade.
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>>52072430
where i'm from i do, but in some places of scotland they use wean instead.
bairn is also used in yorkshire and other parts of northern england as well
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>>52072452
your still not scottish, your half.and your also embarassment for your scottish parents.
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>>52072527
>Swedish government rigged the iron mines with explosives. Kept your own resources hostage so the Germans wouldn't invade.
That's pretty based desu senpai. But I agree about your point.
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>>52072527
We didn't willingly turn over any norwegians, because that would have been a dick move and that just doesn't suit a country that was harboring jews, finns and estonias despite swedes starving to death.

Sadly we didn't have an army in 1941, so we couldn't stop them. You can blame us for that, but don't pretend we gave the nazis our consent.
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>>52072473
Because americans claim everything, they even claimed einstain was american and not german.
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>>52072653
TRUST A SWEDE, GET NASHEE'D
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>>52072723
>Rightfully acquire Norway in a peace deal
>Have to conquer Norway anyway

What was the logic even
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>>52072527
They probably rigged it in case the soviets should come.
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ajde bratak, dosta se sramish
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>>52072764
NEVER TRUST A SWEDE
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>>52072671
>Atanasoff, of Bulgarian, French and Irish ancestry, was born on October 4, 1903 in Hamilton, New York to an electrical engineer and a school teacher. Atanasoff's father, Ivan Atanasoff was born in 1876 in the village of Boyadzhik, close to Yambol, Bulgaria.
Oh, I see. Yes, I see what you mean.

But in any case, this computer is not "inventing" computers. Computers had an evolution which you were a part of. Basically you invented the storage of information on a computer's main memory.
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>>52072653
Maybe not consent, but Norwegians were often turned away at the border with Sweden, which ended in German capture.
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>>52072850
Offer kindness to a Norwegian :3
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>>52072723
you got it right, fuck sweden
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>>52072764
>Kielfreden
>rightful
Dumb fucking Danes are incapable of choosing a winning side.
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>>52072851
thats what makes it a computer.
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>>52067029
who the fuck hasn't heard of dynamite, every child who has seen an episode of loony toons knows what it is
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>>52072915
The dream in that picture died when neither Sweden nor Norway came to Denmark's aid against Prussia. Oddly enough, Denmark expected help from the Swedish-Norwegian union. Not quite sure why, as there was still a lot of rivalry going on.
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>>52072988
thats not what i meant. just be quiet in there.
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>>52073024
Pan-whateverism was pretty big in those days before WW1 and WW2 ruined it.
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>>52072987
No it's not. It's only partly what makes it a computer. Any computer scientist would tell you that. A good contribution tho, I give you that. As for your other inventions, like I said I don't know much about those, but if they are on par with this computer thingy, then I can't give you the great credit you claim itt. Now don't bother me with this nonsense anymore. Argue with the rest of the people, they need attention too.
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>>52073252
ok
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>>52073233
Do you know why Sweden didn't decide to help Denmark? It is likely Denmark would have won with Swedish-Norwegian help. They managed to win the first Dano-Prussian war.
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>>52072589

Very interesting, thanks.
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>>52073373
Salty as fuck
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>>52073399
Yes, the king and the people wanted to help, but parliament vetoed it because they felt it was not in their interest.
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>>52073582
That's a shame. Imagine what could have been if it hadn't been for parliament.
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I view myself as Finnish but when i visit Estonia i view myself as an superior Finnish overlord surroundet by estonian peasants.
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>>52073633
Not much, Denmark got slesvig back a few decades later. And we're all wealthy and successful as is, can't really complain about being separate nations.
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>>52073651
I would act the same in finland if I ever manage to secure some body armor.
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>>52068369
Olet nekru desu baka
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>>52066553
Personally, all of the above.

I think it's important to retain our national identities, our nordic brotherhood and also to draw on the European history we all share.
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>Bulgaria
The shithole of Europe trying to be so European
Tell me what you have in that gypsyland of yours that we don't have.

>Sunnybeach
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>>52074131
Fuck EU fåvæ.
I don't want to be compared with continentals.
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>>52074227
The European Union is a rejection of and destruction of European values and history. That is not what I implied.
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>I don't want to be compared with continentals.
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>>52073651
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iltamakasiini.fi%2Fartikkeli%2F272701-kohtelias-tyylikas-itsevarma-seksikas-viron-naiset-ylistavat-suomalaisia-miehia
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>The European Union is a rejection of and destruction of European values and history.
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>>52074394
Everything in this image is accurate.

Though of course, there is a paradox here as the European Union and destruction of Europe IS in fact resonant with the European liberalism of the 18th century.
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>>52074305
>associating yourself with continentals
mahmod pls go home
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