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What did Japan even expect to gain by starting a war with America?
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What did Japan even expect to gain by starting a war with America? What were her war aims? Surely they couldn't have thought they had a chance to conquer it. They were getting embargoed but how would starting a war change that situation?
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>>51774031
It was for memes
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>>51774031
The embargo left Japan with two choices, to either abandon their campaign in China and to submit to the US or to go all in and to seize SEA in order to get access to more raw materials and oil.

They never wanted to conquer the US and they knew from the start that winning was close to impossible, they gambled on the US population getting tired of fighting a war.
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Japanese-US rivalry in the Pacific began in the late 1800s. It was only a matter of time.
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>>51774031
To make the IJN the dominant force in the region
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They were still butthurt about this guy
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They wanted to cripple America quickly so that they could establish a Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere without interference.

At the time of Pearl Harbor their naval force was massively superior.
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>>51774467
From the beginning, they grossly underestimated the capacity of the US to wage war.
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>>51774031
They thought that if they showed even a bit of teeth the U.S. would back away because at the time the U.S. had a reputation of pussying out of international conflicts.

How times have changed
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>>51775144
not capacity but will.
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>>51774031
America was on their way in the Pacific

It was never their intention to actually invade the US
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>>51775117
If that guy never came, Russia would've buttraped them anyway.
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Japanese Navy wanted more funding so they attacked pearl harbor to justify it
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>>51775167
Yeah, damn shame there was no other country that had a shitton of ressources and was also at war at the time with someone who was allied with you and begged you to join their effords.
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>>51775118
How long does it even take to build an aircraft carrier
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>>51775223
>fucked by spanish
>fucked by americans
>fucked by japanese
>fucked by americans again
>about to be fucked by chinese
Why is your country so shit?
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>>51775223
Ironically he has some point.
The IJN, known as a crazy rivalry with IJA, had a concern for relevancy at the time because the war against China was almost an army's business. They wanted a war where they are the protagonist.
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>>51775224
>Yeah, damn shame there was no other country that had a shitton of ressources
Not proportionally to its size. Germany had a severe oil shortage and had to get by using donated oil from the USSR (and stockpiling it for later use against the USSR) and making synthetic fuel from coal.
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