http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/norwegian-govt.-seizes-5-children-from-parents-for-alleged-christian-indoct
>>51759991
wow
>>51759991
incredible
>look up facebook page
>every comment is in romanian
kek
>>51761434
the dude was roman
>>51761486
who cares then
Didn't give up eh? If this scares Romanians away it's a good thing. Our prisons are full of them.
>occasional corporal punishment is used
>Beat your kids
>Lose them
Tough titty
Gipsies can't be trusted with kids
When will Norgay's reign of child molesting come to an end?
Meme.
>>51762380
When drunk child beaters from the soviet union stops coming here.
>>51762490
stop being rich and they'll stop trying to leech you
>>51762362
>>51762490
Do you hate Christians?
When will you steal Muslim children for Islamic indoctrination
>>51762490
Why so irritated?
Didn't get your designated kid for the night?
>>51762657
>>51762676
*tips*
>>51759991
The article says they were just taken by the government for no reason. Is this true? I am a Christian myself but I'm familiar with prejudice on such websites. Also why is it always Norway? People are deprived of parental rights in every country on a regular basis. Are their laws really unjust?
>Child welfare services is claiming, however, that Marius is physically abusive, while he and Ruth are vehemently denying the claims.
HE DINDU NUFFIN!
>>51762775
if u dont love jesus ur le neckbeard fedora man
Check mate atheists
>>51762837
This.
Why can't slav subhumans stop beating their children?
>>51759991
I'm sure churchmilitant.com is a very trustworthy ad non-biaised source, but besides that, I just love the way you twisted the article.
>Norwegian Gov’t. Seizes 5 Children From Parents for Alleged ‘Christian Indoctrination’
Becomes :
>Norway family loses their kids because they're Christian
Come on, show some fucking honesty.
>>51762794
corporal punishment is illegal
eastern yuros love hitting their kids
>>51762977
I get all my trustworthy, definitely non biased news from churchmilitant.com it has such a nuanced, neutral view.
Same with nazinews.org and thedailycommie.ru
>>51762794
No. East european immigrants come to Norway and they keep abusing their children which is a crime. Then we take the children away from them and the say that we kidnap them for some stupid reason (the Lithuanians think we take their kids because our gene pool is to small and they are the übermensch and now it is apparently because they are christians).
>>51759991
>Pentecostal Church
WTF is this sect shit?
Too bad they're not Muslims though. Muslims are allowed to stone their kids, it's a part of their culture.
>>51762837
>>51762885
why didn't you post the first part?
>But after physical examination of the children (the three-month-old was subjected to x-rays and a CT scan), no physical abuse was discovered
jesus christ what a bunch of keks, hope your kids get raped by mehmet
HAHAHA IM LAUGHING AT YOU STUPID KUFFAR FUCKERS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH
>read their about section
>Mission:
>The Church Militant comprises the souls on Earth engaged in battle against the forces evil.
>The Church Militant (Ecclesia Militans) is the Christian militia. The Church Militant does battle against sin, the devil, and the demonic "rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places" (Ephesians 6:12).
>"Christians are born for combat." -Pope Leo XIII, Sapientiae Christianae
>>51762837
Actually there are horror stories about the nordic countries from ppl how have lived there and had children.
My neighbor came back form one of the countries because she was scared of them taking her children away for no reason.
>>51763209
lol
>>51763155
>But after physical examination of the children (the three-month-old was subjected to x-rays and a CT scan), no physical abuse was discovered
t. churchmilitant.com, the most trusted webpage in the world.
>>51763155
breaking news: wounds heal and are usually not permanent
i don't give a fuck what happens to protestants
>>51763125
lel Pentecostals are everywhere in Murrika
>family beats children
>they're christians
>i-it's b-because theyr'e KREESTIENS
fuck off
>>51763097
>>51763111
So your governmet take children even for a small beating that didn't really hurt? That's not very smart, kids are more traumatized by this than by their strict parents. Some educational work should be applied first.
>>51759991
>source: churchmilitant.com
gee what a real shocker it would be if this article were to be just a tad subjective.
>>51763262
>What is presumption of innocence
>>51763209
>taking her children away for no reason
Yes. According to her. She will tell people anything to get her child back.
>>51763314
>small beating that didn't really hurt?
1/10 made me reply
>>51763314
im certain taking awway their kids is not the go-to solution for minor beating
>>51763346
>what is: the child protective services know more about this case than you do
>>51763314
Beating your kids isn't normal behaviour in civilized countries, Dimitri.
>>51763314
How do we know the parents weren't given chances to shape up before the kids were taken?
You could just not beat your kids, you third world idiots.
>B-b-but Moslems can do it!
Oh, well convert to Islam and try beating your kids, I'm sure that'll make it a-okay with the Norwegians.
>>51763314
There was this muslim girl in my school who go got beaten. She was removed from her family after about a year after it was known. During this period the child protective services tried to 'adjust' the parents, but it didn't work. They were put in jail and she got sendt to a foster home.
>>51763385
So u sayin. So u sayin they took children only and only if they really suffer, right? I'm just aksing, not implying anything.
>>51763385
>>51763436
You do understand the difference between real beating and some light spanking? Don't be butthurt this much, I'm only searching for some truth here.
>>51763396
Appeal to authority much?
>>51763551
Continous spanking is still illegal and might inflict severe physological damage.
>>51763375
>>51763436
>>51763521
Maybe if your parents beat you you wouldn't be some loser posting on a chinese cartoon forum.
>>51763597
Nice projecting, chink.
That gif is from sweden too.
>>51763597
classic
Don't care about Christians, kids or Norway, but this damage control is delicious.
>>51763474
I know only what I've read from this god-fearing 100% trustworthy article.
>>51763539
>During this period the child protective services tried to 'adjust' the parents, but it didn't work.
Thank you for that reply.
>>51763595
Don't pretend you don't get what I've said. Nvm though, another anon explained how it works.
>>51763597
He says, on a Chinese cartoon forum...
>>51763594
>X much?
Are you a valley girl from the 90s?
All these slav fucking shits need to understand that moving to a new country with a completely different culture means more than just a change of adress.
Yes, it actually means that you have to adjust and adapt to our laws and if you don't like it you can GO BACK TO FUCKING SLAVLAND AND SPANK YOUR KIDS ALL DAY.
Love it or leave it motherfuckers.
>all these beta virgins who think it's bad to slap your children when they fuck up big time
>>51763944
Are you from an actual country?
>>51763958
>Yes, it actually means that you have to adjust and adapt to our laws and if you don't like it you can GO BACK TO FUCKING SLAVLAND AND SPANK YOUR KIDS ALL DAY.
You actually can't because they take the kids from you.
>>51763594
They aren't allowed to publically defend themselves because of privacy laws, so what the the abusers run home to tell their national press is the only side they get.
This campaign against Barnevernet by immigrants is as transparent as it's futile. Just stay at home. We won't exempt immigrants from our laws.
>>51763965
Beta virgin who got the shit slapped out of him based on a liberal interpretation of "fuck up big time" reporting
>>51764134
Maybe you're a virgin because you keep fucking up all the time
>>51763958
This so much.
assimilate or get the fuck out.
>>51764053
After they have failed to comply multiple times. It's not like they aren't given a chance.
>>51764053
yeah, some
the majority of slav parents still have a chance to fucking realize they don't live in Eastern Europe or Russia anymore
>>51763551
Naturally, even Norwegians can't know for sure, an certainly not in single cases like this, but I honestly don't see them taking away kids if it's not a real problem there to address. What would the benefit of taking them away from their parents be?
I don't feel particularly butthurt either, just trying to be sensible.
>>51764084
In as much as the side espoused by Norwegians here is the mirror opposite.
I'm surprised at the amount of faith people put into government, given how utterly incompetent it often proves to be.
Fostering and adopting is a lucrative business and I wouldn't be surprised if demand outstripped supply in places like Norway. Doesn't seem too infeasible.
Norweigians becoming swedishs.
>>51764392
lol
>>51759991
I read about this on wnd and thought, even in this fucked up world, surely this couldnt happen
can some norweigan fill me in on the other side of the story? or is taking children away from parents who are christian really a thing over there
>>51762837
>Child welfare services is claiming
*designated cukking services
>>51764275
>>51764327
>Norway's child welfare services took away the Bodnarius' two oldest children, showing up at their school and removing them from class without their parents' knowledge.
>Police later that day arrived at the Bodnarius' home and also forcibly removed the two older boys, leaving Ruth with her three-month-old baby, who was taken away the following day by police as well.
Where are you getting this from? If you are taking this from sources other than the article please link them.
>>51764516
Of course not.
They probably got taken away because the parents beat them.
We have the fucking cross in our flag, what the fuck do you think?
>>51764565
It's obviously too late for this family, I was meaning that parents with similar values should learn from their mistake.
>>51764332
>What would the benefit of taking them away from their parents be?
None. Some laws are just retarded or underdeveloped sometimes that's why I ask.
>>51764695
>We have the fucking cross in our flag, what the fuck do you think?
so does sweden, but we both know how they've ended up
still, I wish there were more to this story than basically just a bunch of copies of the article in the OP.
>>51764699
It's hard to realize you're raising your kids "wrong" when the people taking them away are a bunch of crazy leftists. I'm sure if they were given notice of their kids being taken, they would all leave for home.
>>51764360
There aren't any major campaigns against Barnevernet by Norwegians. They obviously do very controversial work, but it seems it is an institution most people have good experiences with. I have several friends that got away from violent parents because of them.
I'd rather have people that do their job instead of avoiding it in fear of offending foreign cultures, thank you.
>>51764843
>Crazy leftists
Norway isn't Sweden
>>51764516
>is taking children away from parents who are christian really a thing over there
Come on man, think really hard now. I know you can if you try. Do you honestly sit there and wonder if we kidnap children to what, rescue them from christian parents. You honestly think that's a fucking thing that happens?
>>51764953
Never underestimate the ignorance of a burger.
They think we ride polarbears to work also.
nordic kekoldry strikes again
oh I'm laffin
>>51764516
There's no other side, and that is also the problem with this entire thread, our child services naturlly has confidentiality. A mother would deny her guilt anyway, so you can either have faith in our government or believe in militantchristians.org journalism based on a biased person. Either way it doesn't change much, and this is a non issue in Norway, I've never even heard about it before /int/, and with sources like in OP, I can't take it all too seriously tbwh.
>this one asspained sissy Norwegian ITT
ayy, take a Xanax, man.
>>51764953
well if it happened in this country I would not be surprised at all. maybe norway is better off than us
>>51764843
>I'm sure if they were given notice of their kids being taken, they would all leave for home.
you can't tip off a perp and say "btw I'm coming for your kids because you abuse them" because yes, their parents will run away and hide their kid somewhere
what happens then is that the kid returns to Norway the day he/she turns 18 because hey, Norway is rich and they don't actually want to leave
>>51762885
Because we don't want them to turn out like you guys did
>>51765088
I would be very surprised if it DID happen in this country. You'd be much, much more likely to see kids taken if their parents were Wiccan, Satanist or whatever.
>>51765341
Noncriminal s?
>>51764946
>There aren't any major campaigns against Barnevernet by Norwegians.
Supposedly you have a certain "Marius Reikeras" that's campaigning against it.
>They obviously do very controversial work
More so than any other child service in the world? It seems to lurk from one crisis to the next.
>>51765341
then stay out?
>>51765410
>Supposedly you have a certain "Marius Reikeras" that's campaigning against it.
Literally who?
Did you just google it or something?
>>51765389
apparently being non-ćucked heterosexual white male with sense of morality in Norway is a crime
>>51765410
>It seems to lurk from one crisis to the next.
It has a snowball effect in eastern european media. Barnevernet has confidentiality and can't comment in too much detail about individual cases. So all that's left are parents who give the media their thoughts. Well, as you can imagine they aren't exactly an unbiased source.
>>51764946
Also
>I have several friends that got away from violent parents because of them.
AFAIK the smallest slap can get your child taken away from you. I'd rather stay with parents that slap me a few times than in some kindergarden Auschwitz desu.
>>51765410
>Marius Reikeras
Link? Google gives me some articles about a lawyer accused of corruption and meme website in humanrightsnorway.com
>>51765575
>the smallest slap can get your child taken away
Please give me a source other than bullshit conjecture.
>>51765410
It's really not a crisis outside of Eastern European media. We hear much more about the Brit's failure to act tbqh. Difference in culture eh?
>Norwegians vs. Romanians
No shit I'm going to side with the Norwegians. They could be putting all of the slavs into ovens and I'd still side with them as long as they had dat HDI.
>>51765575
the smallest slap doesn't escalate into anything, it just stays within the family
this is kids who are getting slapt enough that other people are noticing
>>51765088
>>51765362
Actually, most religious groups that get their children taken away from their are actually minor Christian sects, but it's generally over allegations of sexual abuse and child marriage rather than stupid shit like spanking.
>>51765575
>AFAIK
How have you gathered this information? I don't think you're correct.
>>51765427
No
We are Wikings, we came and conquer
>>51765040
>kidnapping other countries' citizens scot-free
>not alpha as fuck
>>51765467
yes
>>51765540
Why doesn't the same happen with other child protection services then?
>>51765632
It seems pretty reasonable that any kind of physical exertion is considered physical abuse. I can't be asked to go through the entire Norwegian law code.
>>51762657
>muslims beat kids
>those filthy muslims kill them all
>christians beat kids
>nu uh guys uhhhh look over there muslims, they're way worse than us!
>>51765887
>americans shoot kids
>kids return fire
>>51765821
So yes, bullshit conjecture then.
The only way that child services gets involved is if other people can notice the abuse and report it.
Nothing will happen only because of a small slap.
ITT: butthurt norwegians
>>51765647
And that ought to warrant constant monitoring? What are you implying?
>>51765665
You can't be this naive. Kids can't keep a secret; not only will half your apartment block hear the cries over the minutest of shit, but also the entire kinder-garden staff or whatever.
>>51765887
I've never seen a single poster talk about muslim parenting. What people hate about muslims is their backwards and violent culture:
>stoning women
>stoning adulterers
>killing people who leave islam
>killing gays
>sharia law
No matter how much you try, Christianity will never be as bad as Islam.
>>51765887
>Muslims abuse their kids.
>they are awarded more from the state
>>51765821
>Why doesn't the same happen with other child protection services then?
It's literally clickbait at this point, thanks to media sensationalism and crappy journalism. It's an ongoing case that the media know will get attention over there.
>>51765789
Well I have never heard of """"""""wikings"""""""" before, I have only heard of Vikings.
>>51765929
You're dodging the question at hand. What if somebody sees said "small slap" and reports it? Is that exertion enough to be considered "child abuse"?
>>51765995
This. When i was a kid my parents spanked me and I greatly exagerrated the extent of their punishments. If I was in Norway and a counselor spoke to me, I could've ended up as one of these kids,
>>51766066
Because we are wikingowie
We are polish sea conquerors, and you are weak
So we came and claimed your land
>>51765995
>You can't be this naive.
lol
I can very easily say the same to you who think these dindus would never abuse their kids, just slap them gently
>>51766114
>tell counselor you were physically abused
>be surprised when social services steps in
That would happen in the US, too.
>>51766069
I don't think they differentiate between how hard you hit your kid. A hit is a hit.
>>51766167
>>51766114
Well, these kids will get what they deserve then
>>51766069
That depends on the government worker. And because there's no transparency no one knows when the government fucks up.
Given the immigration situation and other bullshit I'm surprised scandinavians have so much faith in their government.
>>51766069
There would obvously have to be more evidence than just one person reporting it.
This shit isn't something you hear about at all here, it's not commin, it's just very blown up by eastern european immigrants, who then tell their sensationalist story to some journalists.
>>51766069
> What if somebody sees said "small slap" and reports it? Is that exertion enough to be considered "child abuse"?
No
>>51766212
How do you know? That is all decided by the government. And who watched the government? Well the government!
>>51766167
Not so easily and not so readily. I don't think parents would just come home and find their kids gone.
>>51766239
The government isn't the illuminati, they have pretty strict rules to go by, and corruption and lobbyism isn't halfway as bad as it is in burgerland.
>>51766297
I don't think these people came home and found their kids gone all of a sudden either.
>>51766134
And what if it was but slight? So far we're talking about the hypothetical situation weherby even the slightest of slaps could warrant an unproportionate response.
>>51766193
So it wasn't "bullshit conjecture" ?
lmao
this is probably like that story about the poor, old romanian woman that was in the news some time ago, about how she was a victim of the state and dindu nuffin.
turned out she whored out her own underage daughter, and human trafficking of other kids too.
I haven't read a single case when the Norwegian government have been in the wrong when taking the kids. Polish people, Romans and other riff-raff should be happy that their kids are offered a future.
>>51766423
This.
>>51766309
This isn't corruption though. This is "child protection". And if a government worker and her boss believe that it's better to take an innocent child away than to risk a child staying in a bad situation, who will know? Where is the oversight?
It would be extremely easy to slightly misrepresent cases or justify taking kids away.
Do they also consider verbal abuse? That could be used as justification.
>>51766423
>swedish press
lad they can't even admit how child rapists are brown
>>51766309
It has nothing to do with corruption or lobbyism, just arrogant people with power who are sure they know better than everyone else
>>51766401
>So far we're talking about the hypothetical situation weherby even the slightest of slaps could warrant an unproportionate response.
a small slap could mean that maybe the schools principal or CPS will talk to you and you will have a conversation
it will never mean that they disappear into a black van from the school ground never to be seen again
Fucking Sweden counts unwanted staring as sexual assualt. Is it so crazy to believe that Scandinavians would have very low standards for taking kids away?
>>51766498
>>51766516
Talking about arrogant people.
What the fuck do you know about barnevernet other than this biased news report?
Our police once beat up a Russian ambassador for beating his kids. That didn't end so well lel.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2449704/Putin-demands-apology-Dutch-police-attack-Russian-diplomat.html
>>51766212
Incredible, whom to believe?
>>51766208
Again, you're adding irrelevant variables to this. All I was trying to prove is that even the slightest of abuse can be unproportionally scaled.
Also, these sensationalist stories are all we have. The child protection service is acting like some secret police and fails to answer diplomatic inquiries.
>>51766574
And what do you know about how those social workers act and their guidelines? Answer this. Who watches them? Where is the oversight?
Don't tell me the government watches the government.
>>51766498
>>51766516
>muh gubment conspiracy
there are many people involved in such a case
it's just not public information that EVERYONE can glean into because confidentiality also protects citizens when they are going through shit like this
>>51766574
What do you know about the cases of families whose kids were taken when they can't reveal any information? It's not like you've been posting any sources yourself. The burden of proof is on the accuser, not the other way around.
>>51766595
I think the proper term for this behavior is "crybully."
>actively violate people's rights
>complain about anyone who calls you on it
>>51766561
this
I mean sure they're top of the world filthy rich and everything but goddamn are nordics ultra autismos
Just thinking that if I lived in Norway or Sweden I could've ended up to some foster family or some shit because my dad hit me once for me being a little shit and needing some discipline fucking terrifies me
The money got to your heads scandis
>>51766208
>But after physical examination of the children (the three-month-old was subjected to x-rays and a CT scan), no physical abuse was discovered.
You're saying there is secret evidence against them?
>>51766659
I don't think you know what a conspiracy is if you think one is being alleged here, Ole.
>>51766659
>it's not public information because the government knows they would be accountable for their actions and may have to answer/justify some questionable moves
Fixed*
It's not about privacy. It's about acting without supervision. Please don't say government supervising government is adequate supervision.
>>51766297
It's not as uncommon as you'd think.
US social services will generally rescue the shit out of you at the first opportunity.
>>51766595
>Russian reports said that Mr Elderenbosch was tied up and beaten, and that the attackers daubed a heart on a mirror in lipstick with the letters LGBT. The letters are an acronym for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender.
Genocide of Christians is nothing new in Europe. Fact is that many oppressive governments hate religion because they want people to worship the state. This is why North Korea, East Europe, China etc. all suppress or suppressed Christians to some extent.
It is pretty gross and yes, Norway and ISIS are more similar than either one will let on.
>>51766552
Fair enough if so, yet I wouldn't put parallels like >>51766561 behind me.
>not beating your kids
Haha, can western people become even more faggy?
It's the aftermath of eastern europeans beating their kids to death.
http://www.dagsavisen.no/innenriks/skandal%C3%B8s-etterforskning-av-monikas-d%C3%B8dsfall-1.290394
>>51766816
who's the ones crying here though?
>>51766727
>But after physical examination of the children (the three-month-old was subjected to x-rays and a CT scan), no physical abuse was discovered.
>You're saying there is secret evidence against them?
This is pure hearsay though, that source is hardly credible.
>>51766805
How about parallels of ignoring systemised rape of children throughout centuries? It's fucking stupid to believe in memes.
>>51766831
Note, this is an actual newspaper in contrast to OP
The norwegian CPS has been under quite a lot of fire. No so strange of course, since taking kids away from their parents is a pretty huge thing.
Lately, with the hugely increased eastern european immigration here, there has been quite a few cases with eastern european families having their kids taken from them. A lot of these cases has gotten quite a lot of attention, especially in their home country. Politicians etc. in their home countries have become involved. The thing is that the CPS can't say anything abut the case outside the court, while the parents go out in the media (especially back home) unchallenged. Unsurprisingly things dies down once the court case is over and the proof is presented.
When that is said, the practices of the CPS should definitively be evaluated. Often.
>>51766894
How about parallels of government tyranny fueled by demagoguery?
>>51766765
Please inform yourself before making dumb as fuck statements like these.
>>51766728
you're implying the government is some sort of hivemind
this is one of the most democratic countries in the world where one department is watched by 5 other departments and can call each other out on bullshit
>>51765540
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_children_by_Nazi_Germany
Eastern Europeans, especially the triggered Pole ITT, just have PTSD about this.
considering applying for another romanian kid, the two others i have are starting to get a bit old. what do you think, lads?
>>51767007
>>51767007
I did inform myself. Did you read the article? Do you need me to post wikipedia articles about how ISIS also persecutes Christians or how Europe has done so repeatedly in history? Come on.
If there was evidence of abuse, Norwegian government would have said so. Not said "muh Christian indoctrination".
>>51766990
you were saying?
>>51765789
>we actually conquered the Nazis when they abducted our children
Polish kekoldry knows no bounds.
Scandinavians are literal cancer.
Congrats you took a Romanian Christian's kid. Now go home and let Jamal plow your wife while defending islam while they honor kill your friends.
Keks of Europe
>>51767024
>you're implying the government is some sort of hivemind
Is that such an outrageous assertion? Isn't that what has happened in universities? Look at the beliefs of professors and administrators about women, multicultarism, and white privilege.
>Women have little to no differences from men. Almost everything is nurture.
>Multiculturalism is good. We should make our schools as diverse as possible.
I'm not saying they're right or wrong. i'm saying almost all administrators hold that view.
If the people monitoring your actions subscribe to same philosophy as you, do you really think that is fair unbiased monitoring?
>>51767120
No, they would not. They have confidentiality and these parents can take them to court if they so wish. It usually doesn't help the parents' case though.
>>51766850
Why are you even talking about kids here? You don't have experience, because your country don't even make kids anymore and your politicians will just replace you with brown people in 50 years because of it.
>>51767128
Expert whataboutism
>>51767120
>Reading one article from some obviously biased source is infrorming yourself.
Jesus christ, are all americans lobotomized or something?
In what fucking way are we close to ISIS? The only ones crying about a supposed christian reason is this website.
>>51767248
You were the one starting the trend in
>>51766805
>>51767142
The memes have spread to your brain. I'm sorry, but it's terminal.
>>51767241
>nordics can't breed anymore
>have to steal slavic children for their families to raise kids
>>51767241
>Why are you even talking about kids here
again, it's the eastern-"""europeans""" who's crying about this shit
>>51767250
Both ISIS and Norway want to destroy the "evil Christians."
And how have you informed yourself about this family's particular case? Apparently you know more than the family themselves do! Oh wait "because the great leader of the Norwegian government never makes a mistake! anyone tried in Norwegian court ends up failing! This shows the justice of the great Norwegian system!"
OK.
>>51767241
NOrway have a higher fertility rate than Bulgaria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_fertility_rate
>>51767309
How about your government do the same to a muslim?
No because scandinavians are literal cancer
>>51767248
I hope you feel like a fucking retard right now
>>51767241
>Norway has one of the highest fertility rates in Europe. Norwegian women had as many as 4.6 children on average in the late 19th century; more than ten children was not unusual. Later, it has decreased dramatically from 2.7 in the late 1960s to 1.6 in the early 1980s, however it has increased to almost 1.9 today.
Ayy lmao.
>>51766708
You wouldn't. I was slapped as a kid. Spanking was pretty common. I was even raised Christian. How would they even know anyway?
You can believe the people that have every reason to lie, or don't. Our prisons are full of the same nationalities that are making the biggest fuzz about this
>>51767421
Have you read the thread? Someone already showed that they have taken away a Muslim's child before.
>>51767412
This shit is fucking laughable mate, i sincerely hope you're trolling.
It's probably one of the most ignorant and uneducated statements I've ever heard.
Not that americans will avoid talking about shit they know absolutely nothing about.
>>51767421
But they do take plenty of muslim kids too. Especially somalis can't seem to stop beating their kids, and whine when they get taken away. The law applies equally to everybody.
>>51767178
yes it is outrageous because it's just speculation and not actually based on knowledge about the norwegian government
CPS is controlled by people outside this organ, people who work for the county. There are also many people and institutions involved like police, hospital, health stations, neighbours, family, the school, lawyers and so on.
You're just assuming "the gubment" is some soft of club where everyone's got each others back and will always support the CPS out of blind loyalty. Well that's not how government works over here.
>>51759991
Sounds like quebec. Few years back ministry of education had to be taken to court because it wouldn't let Loyola College in Montreal, a Catholic private school, to teach kids about Catholicism in class. The school had to follow government approved bigoted program of Éthique et culture religieuse that teaches kids falsehoods like Galileo was persecuted by the Church because of his theory of heliocentrism. Fuck Quebec. May Allah rain fire on them. May the caliph drink the blood of every firstborn of quebec.
>>51767606
This a thousand times.
>>51767522
>however it has increased to almost 1.9 today.
hmmm, I wonder why
>>51767670
I too wonder why people have kids in one of the best welfare states on the planet.
>catholics
>>51767730
>implying it's native population to have children
>all the nationalism ITT at 2am on a Monday
Love you guys. Til Dovre faller.
>>51767892
Eastern European immigrants actually have tons of kids in Norway, correct. Fertility rate of 2.0 in 2013.
>>51767914
Damn straight.
I would die for Norway.
>>51767562
You didn't answer my question. Saying "HAHAHAH you are so wrong, Norway isn't a anti-Christian police state like ISIS!" doesn't make it true.
>>51767930
When half your kids are gonna wind up kidnapped out of nowhere you have to take your precautions.
>>51767981
Are you for real?
I don't have to explain that that isn't the case.
Take a break from /pol/ and take a walk outside.
>>51767981
>Saying "HAHAHAH you are so wrong, Norway isn't a anti-Christian police state like ISIS!" doesn't make it true.
but saying it makes it true?
>>/pol/
who wants to become /fosterparent/ here lads?
could have a polish loli before you know it
>>51767981
Do you really believe Norway persecutes Christians on the same level as ISIS?
>>51768031
>>51768063
I never have been on /pol/. I read the article and that is what it called to mind.
>>51768087
I think tearing apart a family is just as bad as beheading them. If it is true that family was being abusive, as some Norwegians claim, then they should be in jail. But the Norwegians have no evidence for it.
>>51768082
>your government will never kidnap Mexican children solely for being Catholic and give them to you to raise
>you will never raise some stolen Mexcrement in your image
>Haha eastern yuros getting their children kidnapped by a bunch of snowniggers
TOP KEK TBQH
>>51768087
that guy must be trolling
he has a few people going tho
>>51768144
If you had two braincells you would realize that that website is biased clickbait shit, based on nothing but the word of the parents.
>>51768270
Yeah instead of taking the words of the parents, I should take the words of anonymous Norwegian nationalists who think their govt can do no wrong.
Are you kidding me? If you have any evidence this family abused their children, show it. If not, shut up.
>>51768321
Confidentiality, they are free to take them to court if they want to of course.
>y-you can't spank your kids when they're being irrational little shits!
lol that's the reason you see twitter posts from children bitching about only getting an ipod, a gaymen computer and two consoles plus games
enjoy your spoiled brats that are just going to lay down and let the muslims walk all over them, limp-wristed faggots
>>51768321
>some clickbait article is more trustworthy than one of the most respected/well functioning governments in the world
>>51767981
All trolling aside, the Church Militant probably has more in common with ISIS than we do. I mean, just look at the name.
>>51768360
OK. So instead of taking the words of the parents, I should take the words of anonymous Norwegian nationalists who think their govt can do no wrong and that their courts are perfect paragons of justice that effortlessly make all wrongs right.
>>51768367
If your dad didn't hit you maybe you wouldn't be Brazilian. Oh wait, nothing can change that.
>>51768400
Scrolled around a bit after the last guy claimed they were clickbait. Saw nothing advocating tearing children away from their families or persecuting people based on their religions.
"Church militant" is a standard ancient Catholic term meaning "Christians who are alive on Earth", since those Christians on earth are engaged in strife (strife such as facing oppressive governments).
>>51768427
So you're saying that the word of the parents that will obvously do whatever they can to show themselves as innocent victims, is more credible than a court of law?
While still ignoring that the source of this news is of some bullshit extremist religious website?
>all this slav diaspora itt
>>51768523
Stop feeding the troll/crazy religious sectarian.
>>51767416
Yeah it's true, the whole of Eastern Europe have lower birth rate. The lowest in the world after Japan and Korea.
But you have the same birth rate without Jamal and Mohamed.
And our population will just slowly and peacefully decrease, the birth rate after WW2 was just an aberration in history and not normal.
In your country, the birth rate will just grow and grow and grow with the help of the 3rd world.
>>51763262
So where's the proof that they ever hit their kids then? Unless the kids themselves speak out or the parents confess to having done it, there's literally no reason to take those kids away.
The Norwegians have been stealing Russian children for years so this doesn't surprise me.
>>51763245
>"Jeff, we need to write this article to make it supportive of the Christian family"
>"But look Greg, this press release says the family had physical exams, and they found marks of physical abuse!"
>"How about I just put this here..."
>Changes it to "no physical abuse"
>>51768694
see
>>51768360
they dont reveal information to the public for obvious reasons
>>51768694
Do you think they just picked a random family and took their kids? Obviously they have proof they think will hold up in court, but they're forbidden from disclosing it to the public because of privacy laws.
>>51768800
Based aussies
>>51768502
a literal MILITANT RELIGIOUS group
can't make this shit up
and here people are calling us isis
>Christians are born for combat
I tip my priest collar to you my good sir
>>51759991
>Christian is treated bad
sounds like Japan in 16-17 centuries.
>>51768957
So they battle against the devil, and you claim they are like ISIS?
Meanwhile you are kidnapping children just for beign Christian and that is okay because "muh infallible government"? Are you kidding me??
>>51768684
>But you have the same birth rate without Jamal and Mohamed.
Oslo is the county with the lowest fertility rate, so that doesn't really make any sense. The Bible belt is where the baby making happens.
>>51769026
Obviously trolling now.
>>51769026
Well why in the world would you take someone who is "fighting" an imaginary enemy seriously?
>>51769094
Why would I take someone who defends their government against all evidence seriously? You literally have the family's word against nobody's, and you claim the family must be wrong.
>>51769048
Dat 1970 healthy fertility rate
>Feminism not even once
>>51769149
>against all evidence
there is absolutely 0 (zero) evidence presented here
>>51769048
Good for Norway if that's the case (for now, the far left will always find a way to crawl in power if the country is rich).
But for the rest of Western Europe, that's not the case. And after Sweden give their new people citizenships in 3 years, they will go to your country legally without problem.
>>51769149
>I don't trust the government
>>51769191
Testimony from the actual family in question.
Meanwhile your evidence is......????
Nothing.
>>51769236
I don't trust a government which genocides religious minorities, no.
>>51769183
Maybe women would have more kids if they knew their children wouldn't be kidnapped just based on their religion.
>>51769240
a testimony is testimony, not evidence
>>51769332
It is evidence, along with any other information about the case. Which the family has, and which you do not.
>>51769236
If he's not trolling, he sounds like one of those kids that was home schooled because his parents didn't want public schools to teach him about evolution and stuff.
>>51769405
No I was public schooled and majored in molecular biology. I'm not a "he" either.
On what planet do you live that caring about religious oppression and genocide means "you don't care about evolution" and "homeschooled"? You think genocide is "survival of the fittest"? Fuck off.
If this story was about Jewish or Hindu or Buddhist kids being kidnapped by an oppressive government based on religious affiliation, I'd think it was just as bad.
>>51769473
>Arguing with a woman
Not even once.
In what fucking way is this genocide? You're taking an article from a very untrustworthy biased source, and you only counterargument for believing it is that we don' have any evidence against it. I would say the burden of proof lies on the website claiming these outrageous things. Our government is in no way oppressive, no matter what the brainwashed you to believe about Europe.
>>51769372
I don't have evidence but evidence has been precented in a court. Yes, it's that pesky confidentiality getting in the way.
>>51769614
Any attempt to systematically destroy a religious (or ethnic or racial or cultural etc) group is a genocide. This would be an attempt by Norway to destroy Christianity by kidnapping children.
IF it was true these parents are abusive, then why wouldn't these parents be in prison? Why haven't they received a fair trial ALREADY? Why is it "kidnap kids first, put the evidence before a judge later"? Why is the reason given "Christian indoctrination" and not, you know, "abuse"?
I'm sorry but I don't buy it. And no, the burden of proof is on YOU if you claim this family is lying about their own situation and about their own family. The burden of proof is on the Norwegian government if they want to kidnap children. Until then this is just plain WRONG.
>>51759991
>churchmilitant
>>51769683
So you had them go to a secret trial, witnessed by no one besides the Norwegian government and the family in question....and you believe the Norwegian government? Then when the family tries to talk about happened at the trial, you try to silence them by this circular "secret trial" logic?
This is the kind of shit that honest and transparent nations get around by having it be on public record. There's no reason to hold a secret trial unless you have something you want to hide. This whole story makes my skin crawl.
>>51769614
Your government is the representative of a people opposed to religions. Of course it doesn't oppress the atheist majority.
pls gibe slavic kid
>>51769473
The problem is that you have no idea what you are talking about. Finding real ways to criticize our CPS isn't really that hard, but you are an expert after reading an article on a biased site taken from other sites based on what the brother to this family said. That you insist christians are oppressed here is probably the most hilarious part, and probably the reason why that guy thought you were stuck in some home schooled sheltered world.
Back when I went to school, not that long ago, we were sent to church 2 times a year. We in our childish minds thought that was oppression too.
>>51769763
>capital letters to emphasise
americans never disappoint
>>51769763
That they were taken away for religious reasons is entirely the word of this obviously pro christian website, maybe the parents didn't even say this for all we know.
If the children were taken away it was because of abuse, and it would have been investigated thoroughly before they did anything, it just so happens that these things are confidential in Norway to protect privacy, we have the same thing with every criminal case.
There is no systematic destruction of christians in Norway, the vast majority of Norwegians are christians.
Please don't get into a debate with such minimal and ignorant information as you have, it's typical americans.
>>51759991
>Take away children from family because alleged Christian induction
>Import muslims and bend over backwards to appease them
For what purpose?
>>51769835
if you don't believe in the norwegian court of law, then this discussion is completely fruitless
