>Shootdonia
>shootugal
>1.000
>be mastodon
>get shot
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>be FYORMian
>get shot
>>51602765
Frequency means you divide the number of shootings by a measure of time, not by your population.
Your table is literally retarded and is lacking a source.
>monkeydonia
>>51602765
Norwegian has only 5 million inhabitants. That means although the Breivik shooting was their only mass shooting, they have such a high percentage.
>>51604923
as expected from an american
It's actually Albanians doing the shooting
>>51605145
Whats a macedonian anyways
>>51605105
>>51605104
>>51604923
>Damage control
http://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/comparing-death-rates-from-mass-public-shootings-in-the-us-and-europe/
>>51604923
>More people = more potential shooters
>Therefor, the frequency of shootings go up
This really isn't that difficult to understand.
Why do you have such a low life expectancy then? Don't blame niggers either, your white people have a lower life expectancy than the general population of every major country in Europe.
>>51605348
Because we have a lot of fatasses that die at 50 to a heart attack.
>>51605188
Some weird hybrid between a Bulgarian and a Serb
>>51605145
this
>>51605348
Not anymore, we are above Denmark.
>>51605327
No, it isn't, but what that table shows isn't frequency, it's prevalence if anything.
If you read that stupid article, you'd know that they're trying to refute something Obama said, which is that the US has a higher frequency of other developed countries.
Then they show this table and falsely attribute it 'frequency', so that uneducated Amerilards will think they're right in defending muh amendments.
>>51605425
>Major European country
>Denmark
Lol at your desperation though.
>>51605465
*frequency of shootings than other developed countries
>Amerishoots
>1,052 mass shootings in 1,066 days
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/oct/02/mass-shootings-america-gun-violence?CMP=fb_gu
So if we go by OP's chart we'd have around 22 mass shootings a year, which we obviously don't.
>>51605425
Denmark isn't a major country.
>>51605425
Also, where's your source?
>>51605104
America has 360 so far this year? Is there 300 trillion people in the US?
>>51605479
>>51605504
>>51605516
>>51605542
>I-it doesn't count if I say so!!!!
>>51605617
It doesn't count if said """"""major""""" European country isn't a major European country.
>>51605557
There is if you handle a calculator the way an American does
>safetugal
>>51605516
>22 mass shootings a year, which we obviously don't.
>This delusion
You just don't hear about them because your media is cućk
>>51605617
No I mean post a link to your source, not an image.
>>51605668
>>51605557
Read the article, it defines mass shootings as an attack resulting in for or more deaths with no connection to another crime.
>>51605145
this
and one of the latest examples
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/region.php?yyyy=2015&mm=11&dd=09&nav_id=95988
>>51605738
Oooooor it's because we don't have that many?
Even if a single person gets shot it gets reported in the media, are you that retarded or are you just trying to act like an average American?
>>51605617
Shit, what year is this even from? Those life expectancies look like they're from the 1980s or something.
>>51605651
>>51605768
>>51605651
>>51605768
>>51605894
>"Major" European
What does that even mean?
Also
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5713a8.htm
>bullet way
>shootzerland
>massekillia
>gunland
>shotsvakia
>dontgotoschooltomorrowerbia
>>51602765
is that only for the last year? i only ever heard about 1 mass public shooting here, some old weirdo killed 8 people in a restaurant in Uhersky Brod.
yet we get half of what norway gets (i assume france is so low because it's outdated).
>>51605894
Yep, Spain is the second one below Japan.
>>51605833
Oooor you have a couple of them that are local and not covered by the national media.
You need some serious mental gymnastics to try and say the stats are false, and some proof
>>51605971
As I suspected from a 'murridumb, your source is hideously outdated. Most modern measurements put every major European country as well as Denmark ahead of white Americans.
>>51605971
>2004
Nice
Now let's take a look at some more up-to-date statistics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy#List_by_the_OECD_.282013.29
>>51606065
What the fuck? Mass shootings would get reported everywhere, immediately
You have literally no idea what you are talking about
Next
there are 2 million people in macedonia and 325 million people in USA you know
>>51602765
>mass public shooting
Literally a meaningless statistic. Instead of being a cockgobbling retard, compare the most white and gun-dense US states to the most white EU nations and revel in the fact that niggers and latinos are America's problem, not guns.
>>51606077
>implying that matters
Rather die a free man at 50 than live to 90 in your bleak, depressing nanny state pisshole desu senpai.
>inb4 american proxy
This may come as a surprise to you, but not every European is a weak-willed faggot who loves to suckle the tit of government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
And yes, Denmark is above US.
>>51606168
>>51606077
>Went one place down, still next to Denmark
Were you trying to prove something? Your lives are still shit compared to ours.
>>51606330
It's pretty cute that you have nothing but stereotypes to fall back on in the face of overwhelming objective European superiority.
>>51606371
See
>>51606397
Life expectancy past 76 is considered top tier.
>>51606431
>Stereotypes
Your middle class is much poorer than ours is. Coupled with your much higher living costs and you appear to be quite poor in comparison.
>>51606397
you are using a graph that has poland's bottom 10% higher than Germany's, France's, Japan's, Italay's and almost even Switzerland's bottom 10%. Yeah. Think about it.
But I know all you'll do is
>huuuuuuuuuuuuur i posted the graph, therefore it's right i know more than you do!
>>51606431
>stereotypes
I'm merely describing reality. You DO live in a nanny-state pisshole, that's just the way it is.
>objective European superiority
Europe was economically superior prior to the early 20th century. It was never politically superior.
>Be European
>https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/12/01/finland-afghan-migrant-poured-petrol-on-his-17-yr-old-rape-victim-and-burned-her-to-death/
>https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/11/28/finland-third-minor-raped-by-a-muslim-refugee-within-a-week/
>"Refugees welcome!"
>"It's an immigration problem, w-we'll fix it eventually. We'll just keep getting keke d until somethings done"
>"Muh Second Amendment triggers me! ;__;"
You fucking faggots are worse than the Americans that get triggered when you make ">be american" jokes. At least Americans acknowledge they have a right to defend themselves, you guys are just pussies that love getting fucked over by brown people.
>>51606516
You don't need that much income when you don't need to spend wads of cash on medical and educational bills
>>51602765
>>51606168
Again, do you have something that disproves it? I'm waiting.
>>51606522
Poland doesn't have as much inequality as your countries. You have people literally living in shacks and tents that beg and scrounge off welfare for a living.
Face it, you aren't as good as you think.
>>51606613
>Shit on the one country trying to defend you ITT
Top perfidy m8
Ahh poor Norway, Breivik is going to keep the per capita rate inflated for decades won't he
>>51606397
You aren't next to Denmark you godforsaken retard. Look at the goddamn figures.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy#List_from_the_.22GBD_2010.22_study
>Denmark (2010, male): 76.80
>United States (2010, male): 75.90
>>51606630
>le education and healthcare meme
Americans are richer even after accounting for that. Sorry to break it to you, but "free" healthcare and education is shit.
>>51606630
You spend wads of cash on everything else tough.
>>51606631
No, it's you who has to prove there actually are over 20 mass shootings every single year in Germany.
Hint: the last "mass" shooting that consisted of 2 victims was 6 months ago
Yes, Poland's bottom 10% is almost as well-off as Switzerland's bottom 10%
You are a joke. You just describe the USA, where the poor are actually Africa-poor
>>51606516
According to the latest Big Mac Index America has the fifth most expensive food prices in the world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index
>>51606631
>You have people literally living in shacks and tents that beg and scrounge off welfare for a living.
Never heard of this being the case up there. If you don't count the recent "refugees" ofc, that is a completely different matter.
>>51606697
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
>According to the CIA
>USA: ranked 50th
>Denmark: Ranked 51st
Embarrassing m8, please go off youself
>>51606754
> You just describe the USA, where the poor are actually Africa-poor
The "poverty line" is drawn at 11k USD/year AFAIK, so no, "poor" Americans - who usually spend their welfare checks (yes, welfare exists in the USA) on flat-screen TVs, the latest iPhone and other useless junk - aren't actually poor.
>>51602765
We never had mass shootings in Portugal,so... :3
>>51606817
>realizes he is beat
>desperately clings on to food prices, as if that would somehow change the fact that Americans are richer than bongs
>>51606754
>You didn't prove
Prove that the USA had a mass shooting for every day under your definition of it?
>Africa poor
Lol no, we don't have literal ducking shanty towns here
>>51606836
>Scroll passed the WHO chart
>Scroll past the U.N chart
>Perfect
>>51606901
>implying
You've had numerous military dictators during the last century, and I'm sure some of them committed mass murder. But it's okay when it's the state who's doing the killing, right? Kek.
>>51606971
past* autocorrect a shit.
>>51606836
...You are aware the CIA lists America as 51st and Denmark as 50th, right? To say nothing of the fact that Britain, France, Spain, Italy and Germany, the five most populous countries in the EU, have higher life expectancies than the US.
>>51606971
The CIA numbers are more accurate than either of those but thanks for showing they don't teach statistics in Bongland
>>51606664
>"Shit on the one country trying to defend you ITT"
>thinking you're making a point
When there were terrorist going to shoot up/blow up a Muhammad drawing contest in Texas armed civilians were able to protect themselves at only the cost of the terrorists' lives. All I'm saying is that you guys obviously have a bigger terrorist problem than we do. And the fact you hide behind statistics as an excuse to be a pussy and not defend yourself is genuinely pathetic. Grow a spine.
>>51607038
And? The UK is still abysmal and barely higher than the U.S despite its higher rank.
I explained why American life expectancy is low, what's Britbongs excuse?
>>51606909
Just pointing out that the idea that food prices in America are cheaper than in Europe is a myth. Hell, I can buy a Big Mac and medium fries for £1.99 at my local McDs.
>>51606817
>Scrolldown
>Time it takes to earn said Big Mac
Perfect
>>51607125
> Discovers every major European country has a higher life expectancy than the US
>W-Well it's only a little higher!
Also, if our life expectancy is abysmal, what does that make America's?
>>51602765
shootfyrom*
>>51606631
>Again, do you have something that disproves it? I'm waiting.
The burden of proof lies with you on this.
Also, this >>51606209.
If the numbers in your table are true, which is highly unlikely, the bias would be created by their stupid definition of mass shooting >>51605800. This definition, compared with the notable difference in mass shooting related deaths and gun-related deaths overall, makes it so that the only thing their 'research' actually might prove is that people who shoot other people in Europe know better how to handle a gun. Which is quite logical considering how they need to have a license.
>>51607130
>Just pointing out that the idea that food prices in America are cheaper than in Europe is a myth
Your comparison is a strawman to begin with. "Europe" includes piss-poor ex-soviet states, and the US includes flyover states.
Atleast compare somewhat comparable European nations and US states. Pennsylvania surely has much cheaper food than the Netherlands, for example.
>>51607205
What are you even blabbering about you dense reject? That graph is from 2011.
>>51607240
>Its retarded because I say so
Wow, great argument. Posting homicides, something totally unrelated to the discussion, sure proved your point.
>This definition, compared with the notable difference in mass shooting related deaths and gun-related deaths overall, makes it so that the only thing their 'research' actually might prove is that people who shoot other people in Europe know better how to handle a gun.
They'd need to in order to get triple didget high scores.
Less shootings in total, but many more deaths on average.
>>51607300
M8, this is sad. Just give in and be done with it.
>>51607283
I swear to god, quislings like you are the worst. Why don't you just move to America if you love it so much?
>>51607103
>"Europe" is one place
>Ameritargets still got shot at despite having hired guards and policeman in fucking Texas
Granted they killed the attackers, but overall a pretty embarrassing effort on your part t.b.h
>>51607382
>homicides, something totally unrelated to the discussion
>mass shootings are not a form of homicide
I don't even know why I'm still replying.
>They'd need to in order to get triple didget high scores.
*digit
And you clearly didn't understand what I wrote.
>Less shootings in total, but many more deaths on average.
Only according to some strange definition for which they have but a weak justification.
>>51607240
>gun-related murder rates
Again, a literally meaningless statistic. Is it better to substitute "gun murder" with "knife murder"? I ask this because I cannot fathom how you reason. Do you actually believe that a removal of legal firearms will suddenly make American culture less violent?
PS. 80% of all US homicides are committed by gang members with illegal guns.
>This definition, compared with the notable difference in mass shooting related deaths and gun-related deaths overall, makes it so that the only thing their 'research' actually might prove is that people who shoot other people in Europe know better how to handle a gun.
Or maybe American mass shooting related deaths are fewer because they don't have to stand around with nothing but their limp dick once a madman goes berserk?
>Which is quite logical considering how they need to have a license.
Mass murderers don't care about licenses (Breivik is an exception). Furthermore, handling a firearm is not rocket science and by no means requires a "safety course" or whatever garbage bureaucracy you feel the need to have.
>>51607501
You still aren't posting any actual links I notice.
>>51607507
Not as embarrassing as 130+ dead people
>>51607553
You're still going at it? This is seriously embarresing. I feel bad.
http://m.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/01/america-food-spending-less
>>51607503
>I swear to god, quislings like you are the worst.
The Nazis were shit; Americans are the greatest.
>Why don't you just move to America if you love it so much?
Because getting a visa is nearly impossible, unless you a. marry an american, b. win the green card lottery, c. posess vast sums of capital (1m+ dollars) and a business acumen, or d. posess highly valuable skills which make you eligible for a H1-B visa.
>>51607553
pitiful
YOU LOST,
LITTLE MAN
reverse image search if you really want them
then again you probably don't know what that is
>switzerland has guns and they don't have mass shootings
well?
>>51607668
Just move to New York illegally and work your way up, that's the American way.
>>51607550
>Do you actually believe that a removal of legal firearms will suddenly make American culture less violent?
Why yes, yes I do
>PS. 80% of all US homicides are committed by gang members with illegal guns.
Do you really think it is not easier to obtain a legal gun if guns are readily available legally as well?
>Or maybe American mass shooting related deaths are fewer because they don't have to stand around with nothing but their limp dick once a madman goes berserk?
So what you're saying is all these mass shooters get shot by brave citizens holding legal firearms to defend themselves? Could you back this up?
>Furthermore, handling a firearm is not rocket science and by no means requires a "safety course" or whatever garbage bureaucracy you feel the need to have.
>Trained people do not shoot better than untrained people
>>51607727
>Just move to New York illegally and WORK your way up
I'm not mexican.
>that's the American way.
Bernie Sanders, is that you?
>>51605516
Moat shootings that involve 4 or more people are done by hoot rats in the ghetto and are mostly gang related but you never hear about them because they be black men who dindu nuffin
>>51607795
>obtain a legal gun
I meant an illegal one of course
>>51607651
6% of $32,051 is more than 9% of $21,788, or don't they teach maths in America?
>>51607795
>Why yes, yes I do
Congrats, you are a retard.
Hint: homicide rates didn't drop in the UK or Australia after they enacted strict gun laws during the 1990s. Homicide rates are also sky-high in Mexico and Brazil, where your "no-guns paradise"-crap has been tried.
>Do you really think it is not easier to obtain a legal gun if guns are readily available legally as well?
Mexicans smuggle guns across the border to the US. With this information on hand, I'd be inclined to disagree.
>So what you're saying is all these mass shooters get shot by brave citizens holding legal firearms to defend themselves? Could you back this up?
Could you not resort to strawmen?
>Trained people do not shoot better than untrained people
"Trained people" being who exactly? Most European countries do not have any form of extensive "firearms training" as a requirement when applying for a gun license.
>>51607870
Are you for real? You spend more of your income as a percentage than we do. That's that.
>there are people in this thread who unironically argue about how old and useless people become in their respective countries.
Top kek.
>>51607870
>actually comparing absolute numbers
>what is purchasing power
You dumb paki.
Fuck off, we're safe.
>>51608022
>the ones arguing FOR more old and useless people are almost always yuropoors
Top kek.
>mfw I was born on the wrong side of the atlantic
>>51607205
WTF? Hungary spends more on tobacco and booze than anyone including Russia.
>>51605269
>http://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/comparing-death-rates-from-mass-public-shootings-in-the-us-and-europe/
>2009
>Macedonia
>>51608022
Honestly this. Life's shit everywhere, and whether you have it a little bit better than the other sap ultimately doesn't mean much.
>>51607967
>Could you not resort to strawmen?
Your quote:
>"Or maybe American mass shooting related deaths are fewer because they don't have to stand around with nothing but their limp dick once a madman goes berserk?"
Does this not obviously imply mass shooters kill fewer people in the US because citizens kill them with guns before they kill more people? How was this a strawman?
>"Trained people" being who exactly? Most European countries do not have any form of extensive "firearms training" as a requirement when applying for a gun license.
You can generally only obtain a gun as a member of law enforcement, a hunter, or a target shooter. Even though training may not be a direct requirement of the gun license application, it definitely is an indirect one.
>>51608165
>Life's shit everywhere
Unless you have money. :)
>>51607805
>I'm not mexican.
Fuck you beat me. We do have some illegal Russians and Chinese. How's your ability to act like a Bydlo?
>So what you're saying is all these mass shooters get shot by brave citizens holding legal firearms to defend themselves? Could you back this up?
No, they shoot themselves. But you're missing the point so hard, if people were able to arm themselves then they could defend themselves from attackers.
Everything you said gives the impression that 1.You have no idea about the requirements/ background checks involved in purchasing a fire arm
2. You completely do not acknowledge that there is a black market for things like these which you can obtain illegally. So you're more focused on disarming citizens with good intentions rather than, I don't, challenging your own viewpoint and say "Hmmm.. maybe we should do something about the black market for these items"
3. You don't care that your continent has had major terrorist attack involving guns and explosives within the past year. One fucking year. I don't give a shit about what ever statistics you Googled so you could seem smart, you still have a problem. And obviously the people you have in office over there aren't doing shit about immigration, so you should at least acknowledge that good citizens be armed or fight against people who are in possessions of these weapons that harm you.
>>51608210
>Does this not obviously imply mass shooters kill fewer people in the US because citizens kill them with guns before they kill more people?
I offered an alternative explanation, one that you didn't even consider when deducing that European mass shooters are more successful only because they're "better trained" (again, by whom?).
>You can generally only obtain a gun as a member of law enforcement, a hunter, or a target shooter.
Members of law enforcement are usually awful at shooting, and neither hunting nor target shooting requires any of this "training" you babble on about.
>Even though training may not be a direct requirement of the gun license APPLICATION, it definitely is an indirect one.
It is also an indirect requirement for any american who wants to effectively use his firearm(s).
>>51608049
Don't you have an Albanian problem?
>>51608210
>Does this not obviously imply mass shooters kill fewer people in the US because citizens kill them with guns before they kill more people?
I offered an alternative explanation, one that you didn't even consider when deducing that European mass shooters are more successful only because they're "better trained" (again, by whom?).
>You can generally only obtain a gun as a member of law enforcement, a hunter, or a target shooter.
Members of law enforcement are usually awful at shooting, and neither hunting nor target shooting requires any of this "training" you babble on about.
>Even though training may not be a direct requirement of the gun license APPLICATION, it definitely is an indirect one.
It is also an indirect requirement for any american who wants to effectively use his firearm(s). I fail to see why government needs to intervene in this matter.
>>51608342
>How's your ability to act like a Bydlo?
Not very convincing, unfortunately.
>>51602765
>tfw the top 3 country are all the ones who have significant number of Albanians in it(at least us and Switzerland)
>tfw Albania is not even considered in that graph since revenge murder is literally legal there
>>51608519
>revenge murder
It's called a "blood feud".
>>51608516
Too bad, though you would have also been living around said Russians. We have a lot if Poles too but I think the're mostly legal. Those are the major "white" diaspora groups in NYC area though we have people from everywhere.
>>51608385
>I offered an alternative explanation, one that you didn't even consider when deducing that European mass shooters are more successful only because they're "better trained"
An alternative explanation which you would still need to back up.
>Members of law enforcement are usually awful at shooting, and neither hunting nor target shooting requires any of this "training" you babble on about.
Hunting and target shooting is training in and off itself. Your statement about law enforcement being awful at shooting seems odd and would need backup, since it is stated as a fact.
>It is also an indirect requirement for any american who wants to effectively use his firearm(s). I fail to see why government needs to intervene in this matter.
Yes, that is how we get back at the probability that Americans can obtain guns with less training. The requirement you mentioned is not a legal one, and thus does not pertain to the discussion at hand.
>>51608388
yea but they're hilarious, like last month some albo shot a doctor because his mother died of cancer
also they have their blood fued thing going like you can see in taken 2. we don't have loner/autismo us-tier shootings though
>>51605617
Denmark has always had a low life expectancy compared to similar countries in Europe because they drink a lot and smoke cigarettes. You're still unhealthy amerilard.
>>51608670
>An alternative explanation which you would still need to back up.
I don't need to "back up" the fact that a more densely armed general populace is a threat to any mass shooter.
If you want to jerk off to statistics, I'm sure you can google "defensive use of firearms, USA, FBI" and read more about this subject.
>Hunting and target shooting is training in and off itself.
You do know that Americans also hunt and target shoot, right? I honestly don't see what point you're trying to make here.
> Your statement about law enforcement being awful at shooting seems odd and would need backup, since it is stated as a fact.
Cops in most EU countries carry guns and thus grow used to them. When such a habit forms, they lose interest in frequent firearms training.
>The requirement you mentioned is not a legal one, and thus does not pertain to the discussion at hand.
I'm not the one who first started talking about indirect requirements of firearms ownership.
>>51602765
Define mass public shooting
>>51602765
How is USA not first?
>>51608919
>I'm not the one who first started talking about indirect requirements of firearms ownership.
But the indirect requirements I mentioned were still indirect LEGAL requirements.
>Cops in most EU countries carry guns and thus grow used to them. When such a habit forms, they lose interest in frequent firearms training.
Even if this were true, for you to actually make a point these cops would need to have the same shooting skills as the average American that has access to a gun.
>You do know that Americans also hunt and target shoot, right? I honestly don't see what point you're trying to make here.
But do the people who are excluded by the criteria mentioned here >>51605800 to which my original point referred do hunting and target practising as frequently as the people who have gone through the legal hassle of obtaining a permit in Europe specifically for these purposes? Seems highly dubitable.
>I don't need to "back up" the fact that a more densely armed general populace is a threat to any mass shooter.
No, you just need to back up that this increased threat is relatively larger than the increased threat of mass shooters to the populace.
>>51605145
Why are Albanians such niggers?
>>51602765
Literally one mass shooting since WWII.
>>51609237
>>51609354
It's complete bullshit, statistic juggling.
...More mass public shooting in f'ing Belgium than in the US, sure m8... they'll really do anything to conceal the obvious truth about the US and mass shootings in schools or other public places by young US-born and bred psychos
>>51606330
>inb4 american proxy
excusatio non petita accusatio manifesta houkka
>>51610038
Kek
He sounds really American in his posts, my guess is expat though. I think I've seen this guy post more often under a Finnish flag.
>>51610038
It's pretty obvious. He uses terms burgers-friendly like "nanny state" or "yuropoor"
>>51609509
because imagine gypsies
now imagine they're inbred
now imagine they're muslim
you have albanians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV6681-WRKI
>>51610120
>>51610329
I wouldn't have suspected this level of retardation from a Finn but this adamant defense of what is clearly a retarded system goes beyond from even the truest form of finnish autism.
>>51610337
100% pure ancient illyrians
>>51609746
>If I don't like what it says, it's bullshit
I literally posted the article that explains it in detail. If you knew what per capita statistics were at any rate.
Maybe the reason you don't here about shootings in your country is because they happen under the radar and the media doesn't report them?
Maybe instead of denying you also have a problem and instead chalking it up to Americans making shit up, you would realize that in a smaller country such as Belgium, a mass shooting effects a much greater percentage of the population simply by raw numbers.
But no, you deny and pin Americans as psychos when the worst mass shootings in history have been in Europe.
>>51605617
>russia
another victory for communism
>>51602765
We've had 1 (one), and USA have had this year alone over 350 of them.
>>51610120
An American in Finland would literally be stabbed to death for speaking too loud on a bus.
>>51609237
A Shooting with more than 4+ deaths that does not result in the perpetration of robbery. Essentially what these school shooters are doing. The definition is quite clear.
>>51610638
finland sounds like my kind of place though
fuck cunts who yell at each other on buses
>>51610605
>>51609547
>350
Actual proofs coupled with comparing Norway using the same definition?
No, an agenda pushing graph does not count by the way.
>>51610661
You don't even have to kill people anymore.
Pennsylvania has had one "mass shooting" this year. Some kid shot three people in a mall, didn't kill any of them yet it was still classified as a mass shooting.
>>51610727
You have had 350+ mass shootings this year, the definition being at least 4 persons killed. Look it up yourself. I saw it in the news earlier today.
>>51611205
>>51611205
>the definition being at least 4 persons killed
That's false
>Today a shooter opened fire at a community college in Oregon. Early media reports indicate numerous fatalities and a number of additional people wounded. That brings the total of mass shootings this year -- incidents where four or more people are killed or injured by gunfire -- to 294.
There have been only 274 days this year. The shootings are captured in this calendar, drawn from the the Mass Shooting Tracker. The tracker draws some criticism because its definition is broader than the FBI's definition, which requires three or more people to be killed by gunfire.
>Injured
Aka, there can be no deaths and its classified as a mass shooting.
I don't see a graph with Norway on it that compares the two adjusted per capita
>>51611638
Well, even if it's "just" 274, it's still pretty high. Norway had 0 (zero) this year. We have breivik. That's it.
>>51611638
Do you really need a graph to tell you that one mass shooting since WWII can't compare with USAs thousands of mass shootings in the same time span even on per capita basis?
>Euros not understanding how per capita statistics work
>>51611804
What is our per capita mass shooting if we had zero mass shootings?
>>51611749
>>51611793
and that 1 shooting killed more people as a percentage of the population, therefore you are more likely to die in a mass shooting in Norway because of the high deathtoll, despite it being otherwise a safe country.
Its really not difficult to understand. In the U.S., mass shootings are an unlikely probability because of how large the population is. That doesn't mean Norway is dangerous a country, but it is in terms of Per Capita mass shootings.
>>51611804
Ironically you guys complain about the same shit during the Olympics. It's the shitposting circle of life.
>>51612150
We can admit we're lazy fucks that are shit at sports though
Europeans will NEVER admit that the U.S. has less mass shootings per capita. It would drive them insane to face the reality that they're just as likely, sometimes more so, to be randomly killed.
>>51612148
But this thing is supposed to be calculated per year isn't it? I mean, yeah it would be true in 2011, but otherwise not.
>>51612147
You had one though, Which was enough to bump you up to first place.
>>51612148
>it is in terms of Per Capita mass shootings because I decided to cherry pick the year of the only event to ever occur for my statistics
FTFY
>>51612304
It's cumulative of shootings since 2000, when "Mass shootings" took off as a thing in the U.S
>>51602765
>macashootnia
>>51612313
>cherry picked
No, cherry picking is stating the U.S. has 350 mass shootings a year when by the FBI definition it has around 38 since 2009
>>51612227
>Europeans will NEVER admit that the U.S. has less mass shootings per capita
What. Even per-capita your gun homicides even among whites is pretty high comparatively, it's just not as bad as the memes make it out to be.
>>51612347
>>51610337
if we didn't have 25% of these ultimate subhumans in our country we'd be the safest country in eastern Europe
>All these assblasted Norwegians ITT
>>51612304
It's not "supposed" to be anything. The fewer years you include, the more uncertain the stats are. But is it relevant to go too far back (and do we have good numbers for that)?
When that is said, this is typical for the american gun debate where both sides play with statistics to get their most desired outcome.
>>51612424
So basically you define cherry picking as not adhering to the definition of mass shootings you choose?
>>51602765
Just what
We had like 3 killing sprees since 1989 and like one shooting
>>51602765
fixed the pic
>>51612555
When no comparison is given? Yes
>>51612614
>Didn't add Portugal
I was about to move to switzerland but it's a way more dangerous place than the US
I'm glad I was able to see that beforehand. I think I'll reconsider thank you america
>>51612614
That's better.
Off-topic, just a daily reminder.
>Switzerland
Population (2014): 8.25M
41 homicides in 2014
Homicide rate of 0.497 per 100,000
>Norway
Population (2014): 5.15M
27 homicides in 2014
Homicide rate of 0.524 per 100,000
>USA
Population (2014): 317,3M
14,249 homicides in 2014
Homicide rate of 4.49 per 100,000
Not a single state where you're less than two times likely to be murdered.
>>51612738
>Not a single state where you're less than two times likely to be murdered.
Not even their whitest state of all, maine?
Oh noes, they can't blame the niggers then.
>>51612738
all of the shootings in Switzerland are committed by Albanians
>>51612810
New Hampshire has the lowest homicide rate, but all New England states are whiter than both Norway and Switzerland.
>>51612738
That's true, but not the point of the thread.
Also depends what's classified as homicide here. Intentional homicide for example is way lower at 2.77
>>51612738
That's true, but were talking about mass shootings.
Why is there so few mass shootings in Asia compared to the US and Europe? Aren't chinks suicidal?
>>51613612
They don't have guns.
>>51613612
Because Japs are robots, China is entirely no guns and nobody cares about the other parts.
>>51613612
You don't need to kill others for suicide.
And East Asians generally seem a bit more disposed to following set laws and rules.
>>51613612
Getting a gun in asia is super super hard like seriously super hard
We do get shootings in the military kek
>>51606397
Oh god there's still someone posting that shit
Mass a shootings yeah
>euroshoots being this butt devastated
hilarious f a m
>>51602765
>be American
>don't get shot
>>51605738
One darkie getting shot is headline news here
>lemme tell y'all 'bout y'all goddam godless country
yeah no
>>51613819
Is it wrong?
I don't know about the other statistics, but the murder one looks similar to the one I read on the CIA stat page.
>>51607240
The statistic for Switzerland is bullshit. It includes attempted homicides in the figure.
>>51614052
>Is it wrong?
What do you think, just look at Poland... the problem is that it says at the bottom "based on 10 normalized indicators", if you look them up half of them are either subjective or retarded
>>51606397
I'm amazed how anyone came up with these numbers. The 46.7 million Americans in poverty, 45 million on food stamps and almost 600,000 "permanently" homeless are supposedly living better lives than the poor in Switzerland where homelessness is more or less a choice.
>>51602765
>print screen of excel sheet
>>51606664
The funniest thing is it's a Yank in Finland anyway.
>>51611793
The statistic you cite comes from the "mass shooter tracker" where it defines mass shootings as four or more injured or killed.
Because it includes a fucktton of shootings where nobody died, the figure is so high. Furthermore by far most of the shootings in that list are not public shootings targetting random innocent people. They are gang shootings in inner city ghettoes.
If you used the FBI definition it's around 38 mass shootings since 2009.
>>51614797
Wrong poster, m8.
>>51607103
They didn't have much of an issue yesterday
>>51611749
>>51614835
Like I said, if you looked at that "tracker" most of the "mass shootings" happened in Chicago. If you looked even further, a lot of them don't even register a single death, just 4 or more injuries. If you looked even more, most of them are done by dindus targetting other dindus in ghettoes. Not random people at a mall, school or whatever.
That" tracker" is single-handedly the most misinforming and deceiving crap I've ever seen.
If you use the criteria of a public mass shooting by a lone gunman targetting random innocent fbi that resulted in three or more deaths, the count is FAR lower.
>>51614910
It occured in a state with extremely strict gun laws, stricter than Canada and half of Europe.
>>51604889
rolf coming from fucking Isra-chimpout
>>51610337
QTs desu
>>51612842
proof?
>>51615055
That doesn't mean it's hard to get hold of a gun. This argument is the only pro gun posters use and it's severly flawed.
The fact that any retard can legally own a gun in the USA is more disturbing than the fact that they are easy to get or exist in high numbers. At the very least people who are in possession of deadly weapons should be taught about function, discipline and conduct.
>>51605348
Wealth disparity combined with high cost of medical care. If you actually think gun violence has an impact on our life expectancy you need to get off of /int/ and go outside. Real life is not a meme.
>>51605894
Looks about mid 2000s.
