Russia presents proof of Turkey’s role in ISIS oil trade
The Russian Defense Ministry has released evidence which it says unmasks vast illegal oil trade by Islamic State and points to Turkey as the main destination for the smuggled petrol, implicating its leadership in aiding the terrorists.
According to Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov, Russia is aware of three main oil smuggling routes to Turkey.
“According to our data, the top political leadership of the country - President Erdogan and his family – is involved in this criminal business.”
https://www.rt.com/news/324263-russia-briefing-isis-funding/
>>51591097
>rt
So where are the proofs? Epic russian butthurt that shot down plane started. Enjoying every second of this slav assblast.
North Atlantic Muslim Obeying Internet Defense in 321
>>51591097
>According to our data
What kind of data?
I'm all for fucking over corrupted politicians but I don't see any real proof t.b.h lads
>RIDF posters
>>51591097
>Batman
>>51591130
>>51591275
Take a look at the video at 08:15. Even US minister John Kerry has confirmed that currently both oil and terorrists are crossing the Turkish Syrian border.
>>51591097
>Putin's cabinet lecturing about criminal activities
>>51591387
>Finland trying to participate when adults discuss the fight against terrorism
>i draw arrows on map its proof
>>51591387
I really fucking hate this very poster but he has a point
>>51591097
Same level of "proof" as the ones pointing russian forces in Ukraine lel. So who the fuck cares? All this just shows how rectally ravaged that Su-24 case left russians, since they keep bitching to Turkey everyday now.
>>51591407
There's a difference between those things crossing the border and the Turkish government being complicit in allowing those things to cross the border.
I can buy heroin in any major US city; does that mean that the US government is both allowing it to pass through the Mexican border and profiting from the sale of it?
>>51591872
it doesnt but they probably do :DD if they wanted to prevent it they could
same thing with turkey
inb4 buthurt :D
>>51591097
>Russia presents proof that Turkish government is doing oil business with ISIS
>Both of the supply routes passes through YPG territory which is hostile to Turkey and Turkey is hostile to them
>Western route also passes through Assad controlled territory
So, is Russia saying that YPG and Assad who are hostile to Turkey are doing business with ISIS and letting their tankers reach smugglers in Turkish side?
>TIDF crawls out of the woodworks
Every time
>>51591097
>turkey smuggling oil by using YPG owned kurdish territory
>they refine it with using the most anti erdogan groups refinery.
ayy lmao RIDF is real
Souvlakis are better than kebabs
>>51592122
>Clearly a RIDF ruse
>Hand drawn map by a second year design student
>Turks come here to buttreck the Russian ''proofs''
TIDF GUIYZZZ!! OMG!!
>>51591097
even if we do trade with isis what can russia do about it ? Violate our air space ?? i dont recommend that ;DDDDDDDD
>>51592229
liberate* your airspace and also your mum
Honestly I wasn't sure if Putin can convince fat cats to halt this project. Because the love money much more than motherland.
>>51591097
This map is one damn ugly map.
t. Map specialist
>>51592619
Congratulations, you just wasted billions of money over a outdated downed jet
>>51592619
What's good about it? Securing their borders and killing Turkmen is enough for one man. Now Russia lost even more money. Well, if they are going to modernize our economy in next 5 years, I wouldn't mind but it's not happening. Russia will be oil/gas centered in next 20 years at least.
>>51591097
Those pass points are under control of kurds and El-Nusra; but not ISIS.
>>51593062
Al Nusra is ISIS with a different name
>>51592619
>Being happy about it
Only thing Turkey lost from that is extra geopolitical advantage it has from being energy highway and not much either as it already houses pipelines from Azerbaijan, Iran and Iraq. On the other hand, Russia is toying with their image as a stable economy that won't suffer from major fuck ups and their only source of income which is natural resources.
Mate, I hate to break it to you but Russian economy is completely dependent on natural resources. Your only relevacy in this world is having 1980's Soviet technology and energy reserves. You are pretty much an Arab state at this point, even a poor one at.
>>51592990
what good is in shifting from kuckholes to t'rks in the first place? they aren't anywhere more reliable.
>>51591872
You didn't watch the video.
>>51593080
So why does El-Nusra and FSA fight with ISIS then?
>>51591097
Open the data
>>51593190
>implying they do
mehmet, my son
>>51593227
Homosexual nazi-jew-fascists are now spreading degenerate isis propaganda and attacking honest russian traditional values. Those bastards.
I believe it when confirmed by a credible source
In the meantime I can't believe so many people are taking Russia's side on this.
It was Russia's fault that the Su-24 was shot down. It seems like shitty communications equipment prevented the pilot from hearing Turkey's warnings. This is Russia's fault, if you're going to piss around near someone else's borders, it's your responsibility to follow the rules. Use modern fighters if the older ones don't work properly, if you have no modern fighters with working comms equipment then stay at home.
In the meantime regarding the ISIS oil, innocent until proven guilty. Turkey is our ally and is well within its rights to defend its air space. I'm sure Turkey would support us if we shot down a Russian fighter that violated our air space. We should support Turkey
>>51593337
Nobody cares what you think
>>51593337
This.
>>51593337
Finally someone with logic
Turkey had been warning for weeks they'd shoot anyone down that crossed the border next time.
Russia tested this by sending a drone and as expected, it got shot down.
Then they sent a jet and got surprised when that got shot down too.
What'd they expect?
>>51593246
Mod-rebels weakened by Russains, losing territories to ISIS while pussy regime fighters too coward run over ISIS.
>>51593145
Good is we could sell gas.
>they aren't anywhere more reliable
You have no proofs.
>>51593424
The """"""""""Moderate""""""""""" rebels are mostly salafists. Based Putin will crush them.
![Sukhoi_Su-24_inflight_Mishin-3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/maqRXvZ.jpg "Sukhoi_Su-24_inflight_Mishin-3[1].jpg")
>>51593337
Btw here's the source for what I said about the Su-24's communications equipment.
http://www.janes.com/article/56295/russian-su-24m-communications-equipment-blamed-for-shootdown
>The crew of the Russian Sukhoi Su-24M 'Fencer' strike aircraft downed by Turkey on 23 November may not have been able to hear radio warnings issued by the Turkish Air Force, Russian sources tell IHS Jane's .
Proofs?
>>51591097
>rt.com
Peedoran uebyvaiy +15.
>>51593422
>>51593337
What makes you believe Turkey aren't the ones lying ?
proof
>>51591872
Turkey has got pretty tight control of the border for obvious reasons so itd know if anything like this was happening for sure
Why is it always a german flag that keeps spamming russian propaganda
The thought of some ivan living comfortably in germany while still being convinced that russia is the best country on earth just sounds silly
>>51591097
this briefing proves only one scientific data and it is, pain and burning feeling in your anus can effect your brain.
>>51593508
They provided radar info when asked for it, and released the audio when asked for it.
Beside that, they have no legit reason to attack Russia.
Video of current advances
>>51591097
we all know this for months now
everithing is so obvious it hurts
why does america support turkey? for the same reason they ''incidentaly'' created isil?
>>51593337
>>51593550
Flying in another countrys' airspace without permit and silent is more than enough reason to shoot down an airplane. The only difference is that turkey were the first country with enough balls to call russians out on their bluff.
>>51593567
America supports all of the Sunni muslims so that it can control the area. But that mans it also indirectly supports al qaeda, isis etc. Well actually right now its directly supporting al qaeda through al nusra
>>51593566
>kurds and assad winning
>Isis losing
T*rkey/UK/US btfo.
>>51593659
>T*rkey/UK/US
*Turkey/France/US
>>51591872
>does that mean that the US government is both allowing it to pass through the Mexican border and profiting from the sale of it?
It cearly allows it. You are dumb if you think our governments can't end drug traffic. They just never want it, don't be a delusional kid.
People having known this for at least a year now, this is hardly news. The media just doesn't report on it a lot. Turks are scum as usual, not that we're any better.
>>51591407
Kurdish PKK cross the border too, does that mean it's being orchestrated by the Turkish government too?
>>51593550
Kind of weird that no other operators have presented voice recordings tho. Since Russia is only on one channel, the others would always monitor it for messages from Russian planes. Were Americans sleeping in the control tower?
https://twitter.com/zaidbenjamin/status/672088497520529412
>>51591097
>>51593190
Actually Russia embarrass and contrict itself with those satellite footage. In the picture both border gates under control of Kurds and Syrian Regime (check Nusaybin). Obviously even Kurds and Essed get their share from oil smuggling there. Probably regime and Kurds buys it and sell it to Turkey. How could all those trucks can go without their permission.
http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2015/2-december-russian-mod-showing-images-of-trucks-heading-from
>Russian evidence
Since MH17 you can't take russian "evidence" serious anymore.
>>51593903
THEY WERE PROTECTING ETHNIC RUSSIANS!!
>>51593903
PROOFS????
>>51591097
apparently all those butthurt started when we shoot down your bydlo jet ivan.
>>51593550
>They provided radar info when asked for it
So did Russia
>and released the audio when asked for it.
Yeah because audio ca't be faked or anything
I'd wait for American or European radar data before making accusations
>>51592619
i fucking love russia
everytime they shoot themselves in the foot
Postan for truths.
>>51593623
Kek that image again:D
Turkish plane was downed by Syrian regime without warning and also against engagement rules.
Then Turkey declared new engagement rules for its airspace after this incident and Russian plane was downed according to those engagement rules.
>>51593997
Meanwhile Russia took their time before releasing it while Turkey released it pretty much right after the crash
>>51594052
That just proves they had everything planned in advance
>>51594046
b-b-but i thought assad was a good guy
that's what RT told me
>>51591097
>through kurdish territory
jesus christ russians are so bad at this
>>51592619
>be depended on oil and gas exportation
>cancel export agreement
>think it is smart move
I am sorry but you are pretty fucked up right now.
>>51593532
Russians, Germans, and the Dutch have been allies or at least friendly since the 1400's.
>>51594120
It's the same usual disinformation like we saw with Ukraine
Russia's aim isn't to convince everyone they're right, it's to confuse the overall picture and blur the truth, so people aren't sure what to believe.
>>51594189
That's got nothing to do with it; there's a Russian immigrant in Germany that always goes completely RIDF in Russian threads.
>>51594150
what's he whispering him? sheikh looks happy
>>51594074
How can they predict the radar info and the exact location where it'd crash?
Let me repeat my point: Turkey has no reason to attack Russia, no not even over a bunch of cheap rebels with AK47's fighting Kurds
>>51593903
>Since MH17 you can't take russian "evidence" serious anymore.
Look at the source for that areticle BELLINGCAT. Now see what real experts say about BELLINGCAT's "evidence"
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/expert-criticizes-allegations-of-russian-mh17-manipulation-a-1037125.html
>Eliot Higgins was born in 1979.[1] In 2012, when Higgins began blogging the Syrian civil war, he was an unemployed finance and admin worker who spent his days taking care of his child at home.[1] He is married to a Turkish woman with one child.
>>51594260
Oh, that guy.
He's an actual Russian, seen him in thr German general.
>Eurokeks taking Muslim's side ones again
When will they learn baka
>>51594266
>Turkey has no reason to attack Russia
They do, and that's defending the various rebel groups fighting Kurds and selling them cheap oil
Russia however has no reason to attack Turkey or try to piss them off
>russian "proofs"
>>51594327
>Russia however has no reason to attack Turkey or try to piss them off
They do, for not to provoke would go against the core values of being Russian :^)
>>51593337
John Kerry and Putin agree. I mean how much of a crazed nationalist are you?
>>51593647
Seventeen seconds according to Turkey. It was an ambush, and Turks are probably lying. That was against any ROE used by every nation.
>>51594046
Bullshit. You haven't shot down Israeli or Greek jets.
>>51593870
I wonder what they are planning.
>>51594389
>>Bullshit. You haven't shot down Israeli or Greek jets.
the rules of engagement he's talking about are for the Syrian borders only.
>RT
>>51594389
Well, they're allied with the Greeks, so that wouldn't exactly make sense.
>RT
>>51593903
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/01/the-unanswered-questions-of-mh17/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U9xkyfv3oGk
More like you can't believe a thing Americans are saying.
>>51594389
>Seventeen seconds according to Turkey. It was an ambush, and Turks are probably lying. That was against any ROE used by every nation.
So the inviolability of a sovereign countrys airspace doesn't really actually exist and it's all up to an arbitrary amount of time that is determined by "what feels right".
Good to know. I'm sure russians don't mind if finns fly a few F-18's over leningrad then. They probably won't even take a minute, which to my subjective opinion is a time that feels completely alright.
>>51594389
>Bullshit. You haven't shot down Israeli or Greek jets.
in an active combat zone 2 jet bombers violates your air space. bombers have no flag on them, transponders are off which signals their identity, they do not answer radio calls. what to do?
a- i got the balls to fire missile
b- i dont have the balls because i'm scandinavian.
well you all know turkey's answer kekeke
>>51594389
>Bullshit. You haven't shot down Israeli or Greek jets.
Did Israeli and Greek jets fly over Syrian border after declaration of new engagement rules?
>>51594389
>Greek jets.
God I hate this argument. How do the two examples even relate in any way imaginable?
Greece is a NATO ally, the Aegean Sea is not a war zone and neither side issued a warning as strict as the one we issued to Russia.
On the other hand, Russia is not in the NATO, our Syrian borders opens to the shittiest part of the world with more conflicts than I can keep count of and we've warned the Russians. Repeatedly. They violated our airspace before and have been warned on a few occasions. Hell, our PM even went all "we'll even shoot down birds if they violate our airspace yo." They wanted to test it for some reason, sent a drone in and it got shot. For some reason, they then decided it would be such a great idea to fly near and within our borders with their transponders shut down.
Whether or not we overreacted is another discussion entirely. But stop comparing it to other occasions.
>>51594288
>spiegel.de
Even they later came to the conclusion that MH17 was shot down by a BUK unit of a russian air defense brigade. So BELLINGCAT was right after all.
https://mh17.correctiv.org/english/
Evet, tirad içinde moskof piçleri bozguna uğradı. Tiradı şimdilik terkediyorum.
>>51594717
>in an active combat zone 2 jet bombers violates your air space. bombers have no flag on them, transponders are off which signals their identity, they do not answer radio calls. what to do?
Because ISIS is known to fly Su-24s, right ?
Your warzone argument is bullshit, Turkey clearly knew it was a Russian jet, and even if it did violate the airspace, did so in such a unmeanigful way it just might have been an accident
>>51594993
>Because ISIS is known to fly Su-24s, right ?
No, but syrian air force is.
>>51595066
The Syrian air force doesn't fly jet from and to Russia
Turks aren't blind, they have radar. They knew where the aircraft was coming from
>>51595133
>Turks aren't blind, they have radar. They knew where the aircraft was coming from
Uhh, Syria?
>>51593659
can't see Kurds carrying this momentum, they despertitly need more supplies, we need to fuck the moderates off, fuck turkey off and start giving the kurds some real equipment
>>51594993
you know your carrier de gaulle is on way to turkey. ok lets speculate. 2 bombers violates turkish air space. no flags, no signals, no answer to radio calls.they fire missiles and blow the shit out of your carrier. who to blame? are you sure russians arent stupid enough to do something like this?
so i say you dont need to be sure. if it violates you may fire missiles. this is simple.
>>51595269
>are you sure russians arent stupid enough to do something like this?
Yes
Ever heard of NATO article 5 ?
>>51595133
All their Syria sorties are flown from jets stationed in a syrian air base in Latakia.
>>51595133
Both Russia and Syria are flying out of Syria you fucking idiot
>>51595212
>and start giving the kurds some real equipment
The problem with this, is they get a brand new, fancy rifle. They make a quick calculation in their head and figure they can get three shitty old AKs if they sell it, so they do. It's understandable, really.
But we won't supply them with the guns that they would prefer to use, because us Western countries have preferred government suppliers, and they don't like it when you pick up a few crates of ex-service weapons from Branko, the Bulgarian arms dealer. In fact, the government are probably contractually obligated not to do that.
>>51594609
You evalute the level of threat it poses too dickhead
The russian jet was passing over a little strip of land justting out into syria about a mile wide, it was clearly cutting a corner with airspace
If F-18s were on a direct flight path towards one of your cities not responding to hails then of course they wouldn't stand for it
>>51591097
t. Sergey Zemtsov
>>51595454
>You evalute the level of threat it poses too dickhead
The level of threat that one plane posed may be small, but the level of geopolitical threat continued incursions into foreign airspace by Russia as a whole, of which this particular one is included, is kinda a massive fucking deal.
>>51595305
"we dindu nuffin"
- Sergei Ivanov
Now why don't you try to prove they were the Russians?
>>51595454
So you agree with me that it's completely arbitrary.
Good to know. The next question is why do russians insist on invading other countries' airspaces when they know they can't predict what kind of a reaction they'll get since every country determines by itself what it considers a threat.
>>51595133
>The Syrian air force doesn't fly jet from and to Russia
Honest question here, are you really that stupid to believe the Russian jets participating in the bombing runs in fucking Syria are based in Russia?
>>51595842
Because they're fucking retarded
It doesn't mean you have to fucking kill a man because of your nations petty spats
Turkey and Russia are both guilty of being massive cunts
>>51591097
>nothing about this shit before
>plane gets shot down
>suddenly Russia has proof
So this is made up bs? Or Russia knew before that Turkey was buying oil and allowed it? Kek Fucking Russians are bad either way.
>>51595929
So what if we are being massive cunts? Retards ITT questioned the legality of our action, and legally we are right. That's it.
>>51595969
I'm pretty sure the US and even France know about it but we just don't say anything because this "muh depose Assad" garbage
>>51595929
>It doesn't mean you have to fucking kill a man because of your nations petty spats
What the fuck? What the HELL do you think a military is for? When you join the armed forces you KNOW the danger. You're painting this like it's a civilian murder.
This was a MILITARY aircraft violating another nation's sovereignty, after repeated warnings that doing that will get you shot down.
>>51591097
As you can see here, the're doing bad things
>froggy putindrone
>>51595969
Butthurt diaspora, they pulled the guilt card and spread misinformation to make Turkey look guilty
>>51596053
Airspace violations happen between nations all the fucking time you retard
Turkey are just being pissy because retarded syrian cunts shot one of their planes down in 2012
>>51596102
>Airspace violations happen between nations all the fucking time you retard
No they don't you clueless moron. Most of the time the offending aircraft is intercepted LONG before they reach sovereign airspace. And this was happening next to a fucking warzone, and the Russian plane was ignoring the Turkish communication attempts
You're a fucking idiot
>>51596081
>not flying carpet
>>51595969
How could you not know
>been talking in the media for years that ISIS makes bank off oil
Does the sand buy the oil? Of course not. It goes fucking north to the country with less oil.
Logic your strong suit mate?
>>51596081
BILAL-SAMA DID NOTHING WRONG. HE IS SHADOW OF THE GOD
>>51596035
Oh so you are sure, that means it is the absolute truth literally undeniable.
My man my m9, your intelligence is in question since you don't even know where the Russian planes in Syria are based in, do you honestly expect people to give credit to your stupid inferrence and misinterpretations?
>>51596228
>Logic your strong suit mate?
Give him a break, he's that Afghan poster.
>>51596102
It's funny because russia is over represented in general when it comes to all airspace violations.
It's almost as if they were begging to get shot down.
>>51596253
That was my first post in the thread actually, I wasn't taking part in your argument
>>51596168
Yes they fucking do you retard
Turks violated greek airspace 2000 times last year
Different situations definitely, but they happen all the fucking time you deluded dickhead
What the russian was doing was clear, there was no need to kill him for that other than them wanting revenge for what syria did
>>51596081
If you look real closely, you can see they're clearly FSA trucks.
Turkey is doing nothing wrong
>>51591097
>Russia presents proof of Turkey’s role in ISIS oil trade
>rt.com
>>51596307
Then I'm sorry, but my main point still stands, you basically said 'Turkey buys oil from ISIS because I'm pretty sure of it'.That's not how things work, you have to prove it and no, the Russian conference proved NOTHING.
Aside from that, I believe Russians said there will be more next week we will see what they have then.
Ho can people ITT be anti-Russian? Do you have brain damage? Are you paid for it?
Mah....
>>51596317
Turks didn't kill him, Turkmens have.
>>51596477
Don't think they shot the plane down with the idea that he'd survive
>>51596473
Unlike your delusional dreams about Putin's cock, some people actually care for the truth buddy.
>>51596464
I'd link you some interesting documents but sadly they're in french
>>51596592
No I don't think they'd cared.
They wanted to eliminate the threat out of their airspace, which was the jet not the pilots.
If the pilots landed in Turkey they would've been sent safely back to Russia.
>>51596473
+25 roubles
>>51595969
>defend kebab as neder life goal.
*thumb up*
>>51596464
>That's not how things work
It's also probably not why the plane was shot down in the first place.
The millions Turkey might be saving from getting cheap IS oil is nothing to a nation-state. Maybe if it was billions, but it's not.
Turkey has been talking about this buffer zone idea for a while, and that combined with >"protecting ethnic Turks" is probably what decided it. But Russia can't call them for protecting ethnic Turks, because they used the very same excuse themselves not long ago...
>>51591097
>rt
>>51591504
>thepeoplescube.com
Is that like timecube.com?
>>51596464
Literally everyone not working for the US knows Turkey buys ISIS oil and Erdogan's son is involved. All it takes is a Google search.
>>51596601
>Turk supporting Isis
Normal
>>51596661
>European
Top Keked or Salah abdeslam
>>51596724
+30 roubles
>kebab trades oil with kebab terrorists
>no, kebab is good, kebab can't do this
All these churka kucked faggots itt.
>>51596748
+0 dollars
You're being c.ucked for free
>>51596780
+10 putin points
>>51596771
>source: Putin's cock
Must be reliable
>>51596771
>pidoraska in rage
>2015
>Pro-America faggot shills still exist
Holy shit,I mean,do you need to see Obama dressed in a Isis uniform to understand the truth?
>>51596664
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-25/meet-man-who-funds-isis-bilal-erdogan-son-turkeys-president
Erdogan's family might be making hundreds of millions out of this. If Erdogan cared about the Turkish people he would not be picking a fight with Russia.
That is a lot of money to a single family.
>>51596841
How is Obama's cock more reliable?
>>51596771
Cite your sources
>>51596920
RT, sputniknews and AnnaNews
>>51596851
+75 roubles
>>51596841
You know isis has oil factories. You know they trade oil. You know their neighbours. Who buys their oil?
Also, you know there's no point to shoot down a jet of an ally who was flying home without bombs (read- not dangerous) as it was flying home after the opperation on bombing oil lorries at turkish border.
Now think who buys it?
>>51593422
>Turkey had been warning for weeks they'd shoot anyone down that crossed the border next time.
yep.
>>51596724
>hurrr look guys im shitposting durrr
>>51596651
Can you find any in English?
>>51596664
Protecting ethnic Turks is an open intention of Turkey, there is no arguing in that. But accusing the Turkish government of collaborating with ISIS and saving millions needs solid proof but the idea seems it could be the case, I'll give you that.
>>51596851
Does the Kremlin pay you hourly or on a post by post basis?
Genuinely curious because it seems like an easy way to make money, considering I spend most of my time shitposting anyway.
>>51594150
you forgot the most important part. we will have a military base in qatar. qatar exits sphere of influence of ksa and enter turkish one.
>>51597036
Nah,I just inform myself
What about you? How much do you think you're pro-Nato rhetoric will last? Will you remain loyal even when the truth is under your eyes?
QUICK! SOMEONE TURN ON THE LIGHTS!
It will make these cockroaches scuttle for darkness.
>tfw Russia will never nuke Turkey because cockroaches can survive a nuclear blast
>>51594389
we downed 5 syrian planes and helicopters since new engagement rules.
>>51597171
your*
>>51591130
>your proofs arent proofs! I need proofs that prove these proofs! proofs!
>>51596865
>Erdogan's family might be making hundreds of millions out of this.
They're not. If you run the IS production estimates against the estimated earnings, there's literally no possible way for them to make that much unless they're somehow offloading it way, way above the price per barrel of legit oil.
They might scrape two digit millions, but nowhere near hundreds of millions.
If you simply took the estimated earnings of ISIS per day from oil vs. the production estimates in the media at face value, someone two links down the chain wouldn't even be able to make millions. The fact is, there's a lot of hype around how much this trade is worth, most of it is bullshit.
>>51597243
Hello! Where are the proofs :DDDDDD
>>51597171
You seem like an enlightened gentleman. I tip my trilby to you, good sir.
>>51596865
I wonder how many millions Putin is making out of shady businesses.
>>51592229
You are like a tiny rabid monkey, throwing bits of your own shit at a silverback gorilla from behind a fence. You'll be sorry when he climbs over that fence.
>>51591872
>does that mean that the US government is both allowing it to pass through the Mexican border and profiting from the sale of it?
yes
>>51591097
Japan supports Turkey.
Germany supports Turkey together.
:)
>>51591097
>RT
Hahahahahahaha
>>51597945
can't be bothered if I'm being honest
research it yourself
>>51591097
We should take advantage of this to pretend shock and outrage and try and either force turkey into line or cut them loose.
>>51597984
>>51595133
>cumskins
>>51598134
This azeri has been dishing out some pretty quality banter lately
>>51598134
kekked hard
>>51595432
Maybe you should give them enough AKs so they don't need to do that.
>>51598134
kek based kamil laying the smack down
>>51596168
http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/11/24/lt-gen-mcinerney-turkey-shooting-down-russian-plane-was-very-bad-mistake
Airspace violations are about as common as breathing. That is why it is not normally reported. Only idiots and propagandists give a shit if some plane visits your airspace.
>>51593337
yeah, meanwhile this shitty equipment somehow worked well with Isrealis. yeah yeah
>>51593486
Taм бoльшe вceгo инфopмaции. Tы впoлнe мoжeшь пocмoтpeть этo и нa aнглoязычных иcтoчникaх типa ббc, нe знaю, ocвeщaли ли этo y жeлтo-гoлyбых.
>>51591578
should watch b4 posting, there's more then this
>>51592157
>>51592215
All turks do isassblasting cause their pres, who's foing full crazy as his shadow oil business wrecked by Putin. Shouldn't be so hothead with the bomber.
>>51593091
I hate to break it to you but it isnt's, you just accepted common generalization form media too seriously.
>>51592619
>>51592990
>>51592903
>>51594009
>>51594150
There is no benefit for RF from this, it just shows how serious are intentions, grip won't easy until lunatic leave. He won't find support in West now.
>>51594717
Ofcourse they had flag on it, and were able to communicate if someone tried to. Crazy mane prepared it, everything happened is seconds.
Well, you'll know our answer when you be you will be given the right to chose other leader.
>>51597363
Who cares? He is not destroying Russia to get rich. Unlike Erdogans, Clinton, Bush and Obama.
>>51596651
use this
http://itools.com/tool/google-translate-web-page-translator
Errytiem
I can't believe these people still want to be in the EU
>>51597837
Exactly. Only US State Department approved sources allowed.
>>51596477
>>51596592
After the shot down, the turkmen squad leader shoutand and said "Vurmayın, Vurmayın! Esir alalım!" Which means don't shoot, don't shoot let us take them as prisoner, but fanatics didn't listen. At worst they deserve to pay war reperation or punishing the aggressors.
>>51598491
so fox is pro-russia. that means democrats, obama is pro-turkey. thats good.
>all these smug Turks that are only smug because they have NATO backing them
>if they didn't they'd scurry under the fridge like they usually do
Too bad the interconnected world economy doesn't allow for proper wars anymore, Turkey would be removed like kebab should otherwise.
>>51591097
>Pretend being big guys
>cockroaches crashes your brand new planes
>Do nothing
>>51597006
>there's no point to shoot down a jet of an ally
since when we are allies?
>>51598943
Since the UN resolution saying you are ?
>>51598914
>sweden
>sucked ottoman dick for years to fight against russkies
>even their king sought refuge to the ottoman empire
>implying you have spine
>implying you are not our laughing stock
top lel
>>51598943
>>51591097
I dont belive Russian MOD since Donbas war
>>51591097
dind do nuffin rong
>>51598986
Yet 50 000 Turks have fled to Sweden for a better life.
>>51599156
they are honoary aryan kurds, enjoy it :^) don't forget to prep the bull btw
>>51599156
>Turks
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedersmord#Hedersmord_i_Sverige
>>51598600
Please a member of whether NATO Finland-san.
Let's war with Russia together!
You fags realize the reason turkey shot down that plane is to relieve internal pressure right? That shithole is about to implode, they are trying to channel internal pressure into hatred for a common enemy, and who better than Russia?
>>51599303
>Italia
>Getting anything
>>51599308
Because they know Russia will not do anything, they just attack guerilla army, and manage to get btfo (they didnt even won Chechnya war, they even gave it more autonomy)
>>51598600
>there are retards who actually believe this
>>51598941
But we bombed turkish border, and turkish f-16 are too pussy to fly because of su-30.
>>51599502
But terrorists are dead.
>people here who unironically believe it's the Westerners here who shill for Turkey
Pro-tip: they are fucking Muslims in West, plenty of them Turks.
Except this one Finnish retard who's probably not Muslim, just very retarded and autistic. He's here 24/7 posting about Russia.
There's also a Turk in Poland.
If anything, this is disgusting because it shows Muslims in West will literally support Erdogan and his cronies funding ISIS, which then kills Europeans like in France, simply because he's Muslim.
To them, it doesn't matter they are living in Netherlands, France, Germany. They don't give a fuck about their country of birth or emigration.
Congratulations. Now you know what EVERY Muslim is like. Well not literally every, but overwhelming majority of religious/semi-religious Muslims are like that. They will ALWAYS take Muslim side, no matter how shitty.
>>51599806
Yeah sure, "dead"
>>51599862
>all his argument is SHILL SHILL SHILL THEY ARE TURKS WWAAH
God damn, I love being Türk
>>51599920
He's not entirely wrong
Try criticizing muslims and see all the french, german, dutch flags popping in your thread
Recently it's americans and canadians who've been very fucking vocal about defending their """brothers"""
>>51599972
I know there are Turks in europe, but saying if you support them and refuse to suck putins dick you are Turk is a very weak argument and kek worthy as hell
>>51599972
i think americans are really americans. they are very patriotic. they understand concept of sovereignty of airspace unlike you pussies.
>>51599920
>>51600063
>>51600371
>“The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers...
Yeah I bet many Europeans are Americans are supporting this guy, especially in current climate.
Just drop it. I didn't even take sides in my post, I'm just saying majority of people supporting Turkey here are Muslims in West. It's painfully obvious.
People aren't retarded, they can add 2 and 2.
>>51591097
How convinient.
>>51599880
FSB killing them every weak, tu 160 bombed them with 9 ton bomb what else do you need?
>>51599862
This is your logic:
>Anyone defending Russia is a white Aryan masterrace native of their own country
>Anyone defending Turkey is a Turkshill living in country X
Sergei please
>>51600686
Post ID card so we can have a laugh
>>51591578
US State Department spokesman Mark Toner said that Washington does not believe that the Turkish government is working with the terrorists "Islamic state" in the issue of illegal transportation of oil. Nevertheless, the fact that the supply of terrorists through intermediaries in Turkey to go Toner acknowledged.
>>51593870
>>51593337
>I believe it when confirmed by a credible source
People have known about Turkish support for ISIS for a long time now. It was quite telling the way the only started their "anti-ISIS" campaign (really targeted towards the Kurds) after the fall of al Raqqa's main supply route from Turkey through Tel Abyad.
>In the meantime I can't believe so many people are taking Russia's side on this.
Europeans have never been comfortable with Turkey or Muslim immigrants, and that discomfort has only gotten worse since the Paris attacks.
>This is Russia's fault, if you're going to piss around near someone else's borders, it's your responsibility to follow the rules. Use modern fighters if the older ones don't work properly, if you have no modern fighters with working comms equipment then stay at home.
The key fact is that the Russian plane, by Turkey's own admission, was in Turkish airspace for precisely 17 seconds. That's a little less time than it takes to read this paragraph aloud.
>>51600801
Take a look in the mirror, your whole country is a joke
>>51601453
aww why won't you post your pretty face abdul ich bin mohammad ? Raped any white girl today ?
>>51601588
just your mom t b h senpai :^)
>>51600457
thanks for tears, I enjoy it
>>51601942
>Turkey outed as no more than another unstable, rogue Arab state
>liberal big city Turks of the kind that post on /int/ try to hide their tears at being third world by acting tough
ure cute :3
I feel sorry for Russia. They are belligerent but I don't think without cause. They aren't aggressive, evil USSR anymore. They're just another corrupt state run by dictator, unlucky in circumstance to be big enough to be a 'threat' but actually in relatively precarious position, not in economic position of China, historical bad guy. If we tried half the shit with China we do with Russia the world would be far less peaceful.
>France asks Sweden for JAS deployment
They want us to handle the surveillance and laser targeting missions for their bombers.
>>51602003
>ure cute :3
thanks, I hear this from slovenian girls a lot
