>Finnish has 15 cases
Holy fuck
How difficult is your language /int/?
>>51561538
Absolutely not difficult. I managed to learn it when I was a little kid.
>>51561618
Me too. Can't be so hard.
>>51561618
Same.
>>51561618
>>51561638
>>51561675
Does Finnish has declensions? How many?
I studied Latin and we had 5 declensions with 6 cases. It sucked.
What is a case?
>>51561538
What are cases ? I don't get it. Example ?
>>51561538
All of you speak it so it can't be too hard
>>51561776
Many, some wikipedia article listed 51.
>>51561618
As Putin says. it's easy.
>>51561538
Hungarian has more senpai
https://hungaryforyou.wordpress.com/2013/02/23/noun-cases/
>>51561979
>>51562042
take the english we and us
there are two forms for all cases
case 1 nominative would be we as suject of a verb, we went
another case is accusative, us. it is the direct object of a verb, know us
case dative, indirect object of a verb, gave us a ride, ride being the direct object
there there are other cases, ablative, genitive, ergative, vocative etc
basically in a language with many cases the word or we/us would have a different form for all of them then plurality and possessive etc etc
>>51561538
idk what cases are
>>51562042
Déclinaison, comme en latin ou en allemand.
>>51562583
i just explained it doe
Everyone says his language is oh so difficult. It makes people feel suprior for some reason.
Hehe
>>51562717
genders are stupid desu
>>51562760
>he doesn't know if his dick is male or female
>>51562426
So you have to memorize 15 cases for 51 declensions?
>>51562717
Swiss German is harder
>>51562717
That picture was literally 5 minutes of cramming in high school. I liked German writing, because with simple sentence analysis you could create correct sentences almost every time. Never managed to speak it enough to get any actual feel or vocabulary for the language to be useful though.
>>51561538
Grammaticaly not that difficult, but it requires a fair bit of spatial awareness and abstract thinking, otherwise 1/2 of the language won't make any sense for you
>>51562992
What do you mean by spatial awareness?
>>51562961
My German teacher was always impressed with my spoken German even though I wasn't very good otherwise. I guess being a ww2 autist and watching Nazi speeches gives you an edge.
>>51562992
I like russian. You can express yourself purely through swearwords.
Swedish seems pretty hard tbqh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgujPDBmAY0
>>51563110
no its not that hard
>>51562526
thanks
>>51561538
The complexity of Finnish comes from its reliance on morphology to convey meaning, whereas English is all about syntax.
>>51563110
Swedish is so easy that many people consider studying it utterly boring.
>>51562717
And that's just the definite articles. Thrown in the indefinite ones, the epithet adjectives combined with either definite or indefinite articles, the fact that some masculin nouns have an inflection in all cases etc, and you have enough to hate language.
Utter fucking bullshit in my opinion.
>>51561538
Japanese It's easy though still many things to learn.
Even English is so hard to me and now I intend to learn French too. Hope my brain won't get confused...!
>>51563405
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpHniCEHY7I
>>51564087
You're American
Kys
Easy language, desu
>>51564196
Kek, this is gold Jerry.
>>51561538
Actually the cases are not that difficult. You just need to remember the declension, gender, accentual paradigm, plural nominative and genitive forms of a noun, and everything will be OK ^_^
>>51564196
Serious question.
Does this person seem really gay to you?
>>51565918
no, not really
>>51565965
how the fuck would you even say the ones in the bottom right as one solid word?
>>51566023
they probably get around by not saying it
>>51561538
Not sure about Finnish, but in Hungarian the cases aren't as hard as in Latin, German, or Slavic languages. They don't even feel like cases to me since they basically function the same way as prepositions in English, except they're at the end of the word.
>>51565965
Deep shiet.
>>51566023
It's not hard but those ones are kind of obscure. It's only demonstrating the flexibility of the language and how you can add shit onto a word ad infinitum. At some point it becomes impractical and you'd never hear someone say "Käytännöllistelemälläänkin" or whatever, but it's technically and gramatically correct.
Here's something fun
http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/~fkarlsso/genkau2.html
>>51566209
can you vocaroo yourself saying those bottom 3?
>>51561776
http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/~fkarlsso/genkau2.html
>>51566209
Epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydelläänsäkäänköhän
>>51563077
some of our immigrants spoke it almost fluently when they started it in highschool because they had satelite tvs with german stations
>>51566300
You know all these??
>>51566268
I'm on a phone so someone else can do that.
>>51566417
I know what they mean and I can use them but some of those are used rarely/almost never
Also, I can't really translate half of those
>>51563110
it's really not hard, just pronunciation is the strangest sounding in all of Europa
>>51562891
Nomiantiivi
Genetiivi
Partitiivi
Akkusatiivi
Inessiivi
Elatiivi
Illatiivi
Adessiivi
Ablatiivi
Allatiivi
Essiivi
Translatiivi
Abessiivi
Instruktiivi
Komitatiivi
I know them all from memory because i'm an autist but generally no, no one knows them by name but can use them.
We don't memorize jack shit because we grow up talking finnish
>>51566268
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0l2EkqjHcQi I tried
>>51566635
Well there's a language I'm never learning.
>>51566640
if thats the correct pronunciation it sounds a lot like german
>>51566640
Quite correct
>>51566788
>>51566640
It's nowhere near lol
>>51566788
It's not. Finnish is phonetic so you just need to learn how we pronounce the alphabet and then get a hang of the pacing
>>51566788
>it sounds a lot like german
I think they sound completely different
>>51566877
>>51566925
idk, guess im retarded
>>51566788
sounds nothing like German favä?
>>51566640
fennoswede?
What are the most common mistakes made by native speakers in your respective language ?
>>51566635
No I'm talking about declensions. Basically groups of nouns that have different endings based on cases
For example the genitive in Latin has 5 possible endings
>>51561538
Doesn't English have like 12, too?
>>51567108
saying "uuuuh"
>>51566268
>>51566640
http://vocaroo.com/i/s02vYhkKWGry
2bh
>>51567108
Mostly it's wrong pronunciation/stress.
>>51567129
Noun cases
>>51567155
>tfw i will never be qt Finn
>>51567116
Not all languages work like Latin and have clear-cut declensions. Slovak grammar books usually mention 12 main declension patterns, but you don't have to learn 12 endings for each case (almost all of them are common to several patterns). I'm learning Russian, I know how to decline words but I have no idea how many declensions there are (I guess 2 or 3 main types for nouns?)
>>51563076
Many cases denote where the action is directed, who it's directed at, what things it happens between, etc. If you're learning them from scratch you kinda have to
>>51567431
have the spacial awareness to visualize it.
I left and posted a half finished sentence when I came back.
>>51566640
MALMO?
>>51566736
>diphthongs in Russian
>diphthongs in Esperanto
>diphthongs in French
>17 fucking vowels in French
Who the fuck made this shitty chart?
>>51567401
Is Russian similar to difficulty in Latin
Hanks for your btw
>>51567618
No but I go there every week or every second week
>>51566209
Duuud
Japanese is cool, grammar is pretty lenient, pronunciation is ez, only thing that sucks huge black cock is kanji. I guess it's fine if you don't have to write it but 2,000 characters is a little overkill.
>>51566635
I remember when we had a test of those during 7th grade. It was hard back then but now it seems rather easy.
http://youtu.be/8jmjqKGp4fc
http://youtu.be/rxjA6XFYpAE
>>51567701
Pls help
>>51566886
don't umlauted letters in Finnish make more or less the same sound as the do in German?
>>51571331
ö does
ä doesn't
I want to learn Finnish because it's a beautiful culture and it's my heritage, but holy shit it's hard especially when my only immersion is funposting on /int/
>>51561538
we have about 5 cases.
>not having cases
>>51575081
Is locative not considered an independent case in Russian?
>>51566635
why can't language be taught like when learning to talk? just start with moma papa poopoo and go from there. Learning about scientifically shit about the language is a waste of time.
>>51576206
You can't learn like that anymore.
Your brain is adapted to pick up languages easier at a young age.
>>51576206
Äiti, isä, kakka.
There. You are of master finn nau.
>>51576021
It is.
>about 5 cases
Well yeah, 6 is about 5.
>>51563110
listening and speaking are a little difficult
reading and writing is absolutely piss easy
